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SlowAzzPorsche911T
December 25th, 2002, 03:24 PM
I stripped my interior recently 100% and I'm selling my old stock seats and maybe re-doing the dash.. I was looking to lighten up my car to partly compensate for my stereo... the other obviously to make it go faster... So looking for light performance seats, pedals, steering wheels, inteior fabric just all those kinda ideas and also where to get it like where's the best place to grab some nice recaro buckets and a momo steering wheel. Where's a good place for custom exhaust and no I'm not talking about those bloody soup cans all ricers have.. something different so what kinda mufflers to go with.. looking for that sorta info and I'm not against importing from outta Canada so I'm just looking for ideas please :)

s2oooR
December 25th, 2002, 04:28 PM
go to a porsche club website.....im sure you'll get plenty of ideas there :P id stick with euro stuff since japanese parts on a non japanese car is just wrong, IMO.....

I have momo mags on my toyota..... :rolleyes: ....so go figure :P

SlowAzzPorsche911T
December 30th, 2002, 01:33 PM
alrite well hey thanks it's just it's hard to find aftermarket add-ons and ideas for an older porsche and there's a few mags for em but europeans are big into it and we're not :mellow: I've looked all over for info and performance parts cause I wanted to grab a 3.2 L and slap a turbo on it and was looking around to find out if it's twinable and well no such look, if you've got any sites or ideas where to find info it'd be appreciated :)

REFLUX
December 30th, 2002, 07:21 PM
jus like S2000R said...find a porsche forum

best place to get info

dogstar
December 30th, 2002, 11:37 PM
for the lightening perhaps i can help.

strip everything, down to the metal floor pan.
take out the carpet, and underlay, if any, then chip off any asphalt sound deadener (got 27 pounds of it out of an older datsun once).
look under the dash, see if theres any heavy junk that you dont need, look for smaller, possibly non adjustable seat brackets (probably need new ones with new seats anyways).
make, or have made new pedals, possibly aluminum as the stalks/shafts are pretty heavy on my car.
try this page for an example, it lists weights for a supra, but the info is fairly valid for most older cars, at least to give you an idea... http://www3.sympatico.ca/dean.anderson4/weights.html
and sparco has tons of nice stuff, good seats and steering wheels...
http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000170.html
this post has some info about the mountings in a small car

best of luck, and if i can help, just ask

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 2nd, 2003, 11:40 PM
Hey thanks for the ideas... I've already stripped my bonnet (under the hood) of the interior lining, carpet, spare tire and jack and tool set, I'm getting a light-weight strut tower brace... and I'm thinking about down-sizing the gas tank from 90L to maybe 60L or maybe make it 120 for extran long hauls :bigthumbup: Also take out my a/c motor and all the lines and crap, take out the heater and all that stuff, the h/d for the power mirrors and put manual windows in there not p/w and run with the targa top off.... Then I'm also re-doing my outdated ancient suspension so new shocks, shock h/w, torsion bars, sways, camber h/d, bushings, cv and ball joints, wheel bearing.. etc. All that listed would take me down about 120 lbs. or so.. I'd be down to 2000 lbs. and all the inexspensive route... strip the entire interior and put light-weight vinal in and spray-in rubber compound for the floor, hollow shaft for the shifter, take out the console, replace the dash with a light-weight carbon fibre one, racing seats and take out the back seat, take off that tail of mine and i'm 1900ish Lbs which is decent for a 150 h.p car no? Any other ideas on what to do?

uncle ben
January 2nd, 2003, 11:54 PM
You seem to be willing to spend a fair ammount of money and time in making your car loose 200 or so pounds. I think it would be cheaper and more realistic to just add power instead of making your car a nightmare for long trips.

If you absolutely need to take off a few more pounds i suggest looking under the hood and removing any unneeded fasteners and other stuff you really dont need. ie. you only need a hood prop rod when the hoods up, so get rid of the rod and make your mechanic's life more complicated. Good luck with whatever you decide.

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 3rd, 2003, 12:03 AM
well i can't slap a turbo on a 2.7 L and the 3.0L isn't so bullet-proof so I would need to locate a 3.2L which is about 5 g's offa Ebay then install it and get it in there properly, a G, get a new tranny and clutch assembly and all that crap... another 1 1/2 G's then buy a nice turbo for it 3 G's and the thing has 320 h/p and 320 ft/lbs. of torque.. then lighten the car up some more and well 8500 later and my car is pulling high 12's low 13's... I can do that or I can lighten the car up which would be the next step to making it to mid 12's anyways and well to lighten it up is cheaper and I need a new suspension and seat and interior anyways so why not? I'm gonna look under the hood and see what I can take out thanks for the suggestion... Now do I keep my stereo w/ subs and everything in there or just sell em?

uncle ben
January 3rd, 2003, 12:51 AM
As a stock market broker once told me.

SELL, SELL, SELL, Your a damn fool man! SELLLLLLLLL !

:P

Plus the cash you get can go towards a nice set of Carbon Fiber frame Seats. Those things weigh like 9 pounds or something crazy like that. do it man, plus when your stereo's gone you'll actually be able to hear the sweet sound of your porsche engine.

dogstar
January 3rd, 2003, 03:49 AM
get the sparco evos in carbon fiber http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_competition.asp?id=85 10 pounds.
grab a fiberglass generic dash, or get a flat panel of aluminum and there are some ultra light gauges out, they weigh in the gram range.
why bother coating your floor if your gonna strip your car so much, just paint it and toss in some easily removed floor mats.
dont forget to strip the headliner

probably want to retain the engine compartment insulation, or find something better, as itll keep things slightly civil.

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 3rd, 2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by dogstar@Jan 3 2003, 01:49 AM
get the sparco evos in carbon fiber http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_competition.asp?id=85 10 pounds.
grab a fiberglass generic dash, or get a flat panel of aluminum and there are some ultra light gauges out, they weigh in the gram range.
why bother coating your floor if your gonna strip your car so much, just paint it and toss in some easily removed floor mats.
dont forget to strip the headliner

probably want to retain the engine compartment insulation, or find something better, as itll keep things slightly civil.
Hey dogstar.. thanks for the ideas and thanks to everyone else... I looked at the seats and 10 lbs. is quite attractive compared to the whopping 40ish a seat my old ones are BUT how big is a medium... I'm not a small guy at 6'0" and 260ish Lbs. And those are made well not in north america right so a M might mean SMALL, do they have the same sizes as Ractive? Replacing that old heavy ass leather dash would lighten it up nice. Would you reccomend someone like Apex for that or go to a fibreglass specialist? So grind the floor down to bare shiny metal then sand it smooth, rust coat it, prime it, then well I was thinking of rubbering the entire floor, maybe like what they have in bed liners... ultra light and two floor mats ok.... well what else is could I do b/c Ideally I want it down to 1900 Lbs then comes safety THEN performance, but still a Large sparco is about 14 lbs with h/d as opposed to my 45 with h/d, get those I'll have lost 100 lbs. in weight :bigthumbup: Now where would I find this insulation? I looked and it's well it looks bare... are you suggesting scraping off all of that rubberized compound in my engine compartment? And do you reccomend throwing away my heater core and wires and my rear defrost motor and wiring and then the a/c motor and p/w motor and all that shit as well? I wanna keep my deck and 8 speaker system though, what's an extra 30 lbs in 2000 right? and what head-liner in a targa? :P

uncle ben
January 4th, 2003, 02:12 AM
Any stereo in a stripped car will most likely sound like shit, I'd toss the tunes and keep some civility and posible keep the dash. If you plan on driving this car often, and off the track you'll probably not want to do up your 4 point harness everytime you go to the movies. And if your ever in an accident, you may wish you had that padded leather dash, instead of an aluminum one. Just curious, what will you be using this car for (weekend racing) (daily comute to work) (long road trips) (summer only car).

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 5th, 2003, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by uncle ben@Jan 4 2003, 12:12 AM
Any stereo in a stripped car will most likely sound like shit, I'd toss the tunes and keep some civility and posible keep the dash. If you plan on driving this car often, and off the track you'll probably not want to do up your 4 point harness everytime you go to the movies. And if your ever in an accident, you may wish you had that padded leather dash, instead of an aluminum one. Just curious, what will you be using this car for (weekend racing) (daily comute to work) (long road trips) (summer only car).
Acutally Uncle Ben it will be my weekend racer, summer only road trip car for strips to Seattle and Toronto and stuff like that If I go with a fibreglass dash I shouldn't be that bad off and my car is mainly for nice day targa top off cruising weather so some speakers and a deck woule be appreciated! :angry: The 4 point might be a hastle true.. never thought of that but I'll just take the aries for gettin groceries and my hair cut :bigthumbup:

uncle ben
January 5th, 2003, 02:55 AM
If it's a summer car, you might want to keep your AC, or not?

Wookey
January 5th, 2003, 05:38 PM
hey slowazzporsche, do you know anyone with the last name MacDerrmot?

dogstar
January 9th, 2003, 02:27 AM
its a targa... rip that a/c out and save it for later.

go get a auto sound and security mag and look in there. ive seen some dash kits, ill find one, if i can.

and i do hope you realize, your turning your car into a full race item.
it will be noisy and rash and raucous, possibly annoying on long drives.
prepair to love thy stereo (keep it!!) and take off the targa if your road tripping it.

also, find someplace that will let you test the seats before you even consider buying them.
if they pinch your hips in the store, theyll only be worse in a car.

dogstar
January 9th, 2003, 02:40 AM
heres the dash i was talking about :) http://www.vibrantperformance.com/images/e...uide_Page04.pdf (http://www.vibrantperformance.com/images/eproducts/pdfs/2003_Product_Guide_Page04.pdf)

also, did some googling...not sure if youve tried these guys:
http://www.theracersgroup.com/911%20bodywork.html

might want to look into skinning your door panels with aluminum, or fiberglass, or carbon fiber, depending how much you want to spend.

also, plexiglass windows can take a lot of weight off, 200-300 pounds in some vehicles, probably less in your case, due to less window square footage.
http://www.percyshp.com/speedracwin.html
might be hard to find for an uncommon car, but with luck...
or you might just get creative and take out your side windows, then cut plexi to shape, and replace.


heres a little write up on some custom fiberglas work, perhaps one of the shops in town can tackle something similar to mould a dashboard?
or hell, go to a plastics moulding company (there are a bunch) and get them to see how light a moulding they can make of your dashboard.
http://www.zx3tuning.com/pdfs/soundsyst.pdf
if you mould it right off your dash, it should fit, and have all the cut outs for the gauges, but still be nice and light.

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 14th, 2003, 01:35 PM
MacDerrmot... hmmm well sounds a lil familiar, I don't hang out with my own kind, the Scotts got a bad temper :o why do you ask?

SlowAzzPorsche911T
January 21st, 2003, 10:43 AM
oh wow thanks dogstar... I hadn't checked this post in a while... thanks a lot for the ideas... I'm gonna take my dash out and maybe see if a few plastic or fibreglass peeps would be willing to tackle it.... The speedglass/lexan idea is good as well especially if it takes 50% off of my car for the windows... that's 40 lbs. of speedglass instead of about 100 lbs.. and the seats will save me about 25 lbs each.. I mean that's 110 lbs right there.. plus stripping the interior already and under the hood/bonnet... I want my car down as low as possible w/o going to like a full out race car.... I just called the Speedglass place and they have 1/8" thick speedglass, and shit they want a G AMERICAN to do all 4 pieces and I'd be saving 45 lbs... that's EXTREME lol... maybe I won't go with that? Mind you I'm grabbing 2 Sparcos at a G for a pair to save 50 lbs.... maybe one day :P The fibreglass store wants 10 G's to do the entire car.. I'd save 40-60% on weight though.. so we're talking like what 150 lbs. off of the GVW for 10g's.... holy shit!!! Then you can go with an aluminum tube chassis and shit like that... one for the porsche would be 200 lbs instead of 425... I mean if I wanted to go extreme..... I could lose 600 lbs for about $16,000. So the car now weighs 1900 lbs.... throw a 3.0L in it and turbocharge it for about 8 G's and also the engine will be 6 G's or so then 2 G's to put it in. Then a G to put it on the bottle... so for about $32,000 I can have a 1900 lbs. 350 h.p (w/o the 100 shot of NO2) Porsche... I mean that car would rip.. it'd be STUPID FAST... but I don't have the money LOL.. I mean that's a lil EXTREME... someone wanna steer me in the right direction? :( The dash and seats are realistic.. so is doing the lightweight interior coating and stripping the a/c, power windows, heater, etc. out of there... Is carnon fibre more expensive then fibreglass?

dogstar
January 22nd, 2003, 01:45 AM
carbon fiber would make you cry, its that bad...

looks nice, and you dont need paint, but last time i priced out a carbon fiber hood, it was in the 800 dollar range for my supra.

ive seen porsches out there with chevy v8s under the hood, so that is one option if you want to start spending money for some serious performance.
a chevy v8 is about 570 pounds, and a porsche 2.7 is someplace around 450, if my sources are correct.
so your car would get pretty tail happy with a 400 horse v8, but think of how fun it would be with all that low end instant power.

also, you can do fiberglassing and carbon fiber at home.
no, its not easy, and im sure it wouldnt be cheap to learn, but it wouldnt cost you as much as a shop, if you learned fast.
hmm, lets see...
go with light weight wheels, maybe some panasports at 11 or so pounds?
tires are all usually the same weight for equivalent sizes.
brakes can probably be lightened, which will help lower rotating mass, which makes a huge difference in performance, this applies to wheels as well.

you might be able to find some lightened racing suspension parts, but they wouldnt be cheap.
undercoating can be scraped, if you havent, but be careful, youll have to treat the underside of your car, or face rust instantly.

it sounds like the interior is pretty well stripped down.
there might be some extra brackets here and there, but it sounds like your going to have a hard time loosing much more weight off that car.

let me know if you need to pick what little is left in my brain.