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Thread: Minimum wage and tipping how do you feel?

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    Since when do all folks that have minimum wage jobs have the opportunity to put 40hr/week into them?
    When I worked min wage, there was virtually ZERO chance to get >32hr/week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_fornicator View Post
    That's actually not true. Minus provincial and federal income tax as well as EI and CPP, being generous, take 15% off. You're left with $2040.

    $400 is not "basically... zero dollars in tax". For some people, that is a fuck ton of money.
    Plus minimum wage has only been $15 for like two weeks, so roll it back to what it was, then back it off to 32 hours or so. So you're left with a little over $1400 a month. Which is pretty much unlivable at $900 a month rent, especially if you have to own a car and commute. Tack on food, cell phone, etc... it's nothing.

    Basically, what he said was $15 an hour as minimum wage makes it a livable wage, which was the whole point of it. And it barely does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEVO View Post
    Plus minimum wage has only been $15 for like two weeks, so roll it back to what it was, then back it off to 32 hours or so. So you're left with a little over $1400 a month. Which is pretty much unlivable at $900 a month rent, especially if you have to own a car and commute. Tack on food, cell phone, etc... it's nothing.

    Basically, what he said was $15 an hour as minimum wage makes it a livable wage, which was the whole point of it. And it barely does that.
    The big dirty secret is that it isn't really about a livable wage. It's about putting more $ in the hands of the poor, because they spend 100% of their money and it gets injected back into the economy. No savings, no vacations where our precious dollars leave Canada, no investments. Just hand-to-mouth living.
    Instead of accomplishing this via making these poor folks' tax ZERO, they chose to burden businesses with paying them 40% more than they did a few years ago. "Suck it, Biz!! Suck it all up!!! We told you we hated you! Now you can FEEL our LeftyWrath!!!"
    Well, they're not so willing to swallow that load. Businesses are finding new ways to reduce staff, cut hours, cut breaks and eliminate positions to maintain their wages (where "wages" are the profits of the business owners).
    Was it even a full 24h after Stage One of this plan that McDonald's rolled in triple the amount of those automated terminals?
    In the end, it's not going to help those who truly needed the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTempguy View Post
    You're a retard. $2k per month net is more than possible wage to live on in the circumstances outlined, so fuck off. And that "$400" is not the tax paid per month, EI and CPP aren't a tax. FFS. Read what I wrote. That's like saying your RRSP investments each month are a tax.

    Still completely changes nothing in regards to prior statements said. Its more than enough to live on, even in "super expensive omagherd" Toronto or Vancouver. And we haven't even factored in po' folk benefits/tax credits/welfare schemes yet.
    lol ironic isn't it? You screaming and shouting how we're all retards not reading what you wrote.

    Let me break out the crayons for you: I made no argument whether a person can live on the current min wage of $15/hr. Seriously, nowhere have I made any such argument for one side or another.

    I just corrected you because you said people making min age "basically pay zero dollars in tax". I low balled the taxes on a person making $15/hr assuming fulltime work @ 40 hours per week (160 hours per month x 12). Said people would pay at least $400 in combined federal and provincial taxes, EI, CPP.

    $400 <> $0.

    And now you have your panties in a knot.
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