| s2oooR |
2004 Lotus Elise
Looks like the Elise will be here in 2004! :bigthumbup:
I WANT ONE!!!! ....Im just not sure about the price tag...Ive heard $40 000 USD? Just not sure if i should sell my car for this sucker or trade it in... :blink: Maybe i'll wait and check it out in person first? Do we even HAVE a lotus dealer here in Edmonton? :dunno:
...Anyways, talk about the ultimate in sport compact cars! B)
180 hp, 135lbs.ft torque......and under 2000lbs! :bigthumbup: |
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| DeathBy240 |
| I always thought they were more of a "supercar" than that.... Looks nice tho. |
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| 2003specv |
Maybe you were thinking of the Esprit V8.
Mmm... twin turbo V8. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Yeah doesnt quite compare to the celica engine. |
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| 986guy |
Nice ! hopefully can Order from Vancouver Lotus Dealer ! as a 2005 model (?)
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| Magnum |
| looks like its all show, no go.... should maybe keep up with a celica gt.. |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
looks like its all show, no go.... should maybe keep up with a celica gt..
all show and no go? I think it'd leave the Celica GT in the dust....quite easily, in fact. :P not to mention the RSX :P
....0-60 in under 5 seconds??? Since when does the Celica GT or RSX do that? not to mention the handling that thing must have being so lightweight ....must be a fun car to drive in the twisties... :D |
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| 95Integra |
| 1/4 mile in 12 seconds. Its just that sweet. |
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| MightyMidget |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Maybe you were thinking of the Esprit V8.
Mmm... twin turbo V8.
ya i agree that Lotus V8 is much nicer.....TTV8 baby....and its only like a 3.5l V8.....so its very small for a V8...... :bigthumbup:
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| GirlRacer P1 |
| Rommel: Sell the S2K for it. :D |
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| djshortys |
meh, just a go kart in disguise
andy! |
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| MightyMidget |
quote:
Originally posted by djshortys
meh, just a go kart in disguise
andy!
so then it would work for you andy.....you could see over the steering wheel....right??
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| djshortys |
as long as theres a phone book on the seat, sure!
andy! |
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| curtis_rak |
When I was in Europe this summer I seen an Elise parked in front of my hotel. I took some pics.
I will try and post them here... |
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| MightyMidget |
quote:
Originally posted by djshortys
as long as theres a phone book on the seat, sure!
andy!
well then you have teh issure of not reaching the pedals......blocks perhaps??
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| djshortys |
ill move the seat forward!
andy! |
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| MightyMidget |
quote:
Originally posted by djshortys
ill move the seat forward!
andy!
not sure it'll reach that far...
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by GirlRacer P1
Rommel: Sell the S2K for it. :D
Crystal: You think so? I wanna see it in real life first.....
Andy: "go kart in disguise?" ...damn, u know how fun that would be?!!!! :D |
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| sCream/cparkq |
| holy crap check out the fuel economy of that vehicle, haha.. thats wicked |
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| Magnum |
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
looks like its all show, no go.... should maybe keep up with a celica gt..
all show and no go? I think it'd leave the Celica GT in the dust....quite easily, in fact. :P not to mention the RSX :P
....0-60 in under 5 seconds??? Since when does the Celica GT or RSX do that? not to mention the handling that thing must have being so lightweight ....must be a fun car to drive in the twisties... :D
Specifications:
Price Range (MSRP): N/A
Body Type: 2-door convertible
Layout: front engine, RWD
Engine (est): 190 hp, 135 lb-ft of torque, 1.8-L, DOHC, 16-valve I-4
Transmission: 6-spd manual
Acceleration (est 0 - 100 km/h): 4.9 seconds
Top Speed: 225 km/h
Brakes (front/rear): disc/disc, ABS
Seating Capacity: 2
Cargo Volume (trunk): N/A
sure its rear wheel drive and lighter.... rsx is 200hp 142lb-ft of torque 2.0-L dohc 6spd, top speed i've hit 240km/h front and rear discs,abs.... so intead of opening your mouth read... i didnt say my car could beat it.... you start bashing me for no reason and the specs arnt even that impressive... just saying for the price that things gunna cost, your better off modding something different...
and for a rear wheel drive car...135lbs of torque... :gay: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| R dump the HonDUH and go for the elise, one hell of a handling machine, nice looks too. closest dealer would be Vancouver, that one specialty place ZR Auto? in Cow town might get a few :bigthumbup: |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
looks like its all show, no go.... should maybe keep up with a celica gt..
all show and no go? I think it'd leave the Celica GT in the dust....quite easily, in fact. :P not to mention the RSX :P
....0-60 in under 5 seconds??? Since when does the Celica GT or RSX do that? not to mention the handling that thing must have being so lightweight ....must be a fun car to drive in the twisties... :D
Specifications:
Price Range (MSRP): N/A
Body Type: 2-door convertible
Layout: front engine, RWD
Engine (est): 190 hp, 135 lb-ft of torque, 1.8-L, DOHC, 16-valve I-4
Transmission: 6-spd manual
Acceleration (est 0 - 100 km/h): 4.9 seconds
Top Speed: 225 km/h
Brakes (front/rear): disc/disc, ABS
Seating Capacity: 2
Cargo Volume (trunk): N/A
sure its rear wheel drive and lighter.... rsx is 200hp 142lb-ft of torque 2.0-L dohc 6spd, top speed i've hit 240km/h front and rear discs,abs.... so intead of opening your mouth read... i didnt say my car could beat it.... you start bashing me for no reason and the specs arnt even that impressive... just saying for the price that things gunna cost, your better off modding something different...
and for a rear wheel drive car...135lbs of torque... :gay:
bashing u for no reason? Come on, i dont think you have to say, "..instead of opening my mouth?" I was merely pointing out my opinion....i wasnt bashing you i wasnt saying your car sucks, i just thought that the Lotus would more than keep up with a celica or an rsx...and i know u never said that your car would beat it but u DID say a celica and the elise would be about the same....and in my opinion, your incorrect.
u just showed me the specs.... 0-60 in under 5 sec. for a car with 180hp and 135lbs.ft torque? ...and tahts a car u call all show and no go?
....and i dont nkow...but i dont think i'd wanna mod up too much if i had that car.... |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
R dump the HonDUH and go for the elise, one hell of a handling machine, nice looks too. closest dealer would be Vancouver, that one specialty place ZR Auto? in Cow town might get a few :bigthumbup:
yeah, maybe the gf can hook me up with a deal down there .....she might have some connections B) |
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| scooby_dooby |
man, when are people gonna stop looking at the torque and horsepower as everything? Such a stupid mentality that the bigger number's always better...
it's a little thing called power/weight ratio.....oh and ever heard of gearing? It's pretty important too...
that thing is kick-ass |
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| DeathBy240 |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby
man, when are people gonna stop looking at the torque and horsepower as everything? Such a stupid mentality that the bigger number's always better...
it's a little thing called power/weight ratio.....oh and ever heard of gearing? It's pretty important too...
that thing is kick-ass
Shouldn't you have the power to weight ratio of your car in your signature then? :P |
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| TrevorK |
| Once the GF graduates university, I get to pick one of these up....Mmmmmm....So f@cking nice. |
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| CanadianR |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
looks like its all show, no go.... should maybe keep up with a celica gt..
That's funny. Should keep up with something more like a Viper, you mean. If i had the money to be able to maintain one of these properly, make the payments on it, and afford to run it at a track every month or so, i'd trade the R in on one in a heartbeat. For about the same price as a Boxster you will get THE best handling car in the world that will outrun all but the fastest cars out there. Lotus also did some work to the Toyota engine, making the low and midrange power much better, while still adding 10 peak hp to it, so it's actually 190hp. That also helped the power curve so much that they didn't have to fix the crappy gearing Toyota decided to use in the tranny. Magnum, i doubt that you would be able to take the extra $15k US or so in price difference between the Elise and RSX-S and be able to make the RSX faster. The only thing you might be able to beat it in is the 1/4 mile, if you put all the money into the engine and tranny, and who cares about the 1/4 mile if you own an Elise? You'd be practically untouchable on a road track. |
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| 986guy |
For the 190 HP european ELise model, only take 4.3 second from 0-60 mph, and it can take ( or beat ) any Ferrari 360 or Porsche 911 Turbo ..
PLEASE >> Don't compare a " LOTUS " to a japanese car !! :angry:
Lotus is a Lotus ! a well known brand for super sports car !
I don't mean offence .. japanese is nice, and can be fast too, but .. come one .. they are not the same class ! :(
You can buy a ROLEX or a Casio watch, they both nice, and both "run" .. but .. can't compare ! :blink: or even an "Armani suit" compare to La Chateau cloth?
If compare ? compare it to a Boxster S , 911 .. even a Ferrari .. or at elast a Z4 .. M roadster .... SLK32 ..
Celica ? Rsx ?
how about an Echo ????? :angry:
How about compare a RSX to my shoes ??
Again, it is a LOTUS . (even with toyota engine) |
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| SplineZ |
Isnt lotus partially owned by GM? If they are im suprised they used a toyota engine..
and if they are still independant, thats amazing in itself. How'd such a lil company keep afloat, and not be swepted up by some other bigfish?
Myself.. I'd trade my soul for one of these.. or a vauxhall vx220 turbo (opel speedster turbo).... 1700lbs net weight and 200hp is intoxicating...
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| REFLUX |
lol someone's getting :owned:
I really dont understand how an Elise can be compared to any Japanese sports economy car....status wise especially
0-100km/h in 5 seconds....DAMN! How can ANYONE argue that???? It's been frigging tested & recorded.
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| CanadianR |
quote:
Originally posted by SplineZ
Isnt lotus partially owned by GM? If they are im suprised they used a toyota engine..
No, they were partially owned by a company named Proton, who now completely owns them. One thing i must say though, is, i wish they had convinced Honda somehow to put the K20 from the RSX-S in that car instead of the Celica engine. There would be so much available to get more power out of the Honda engine, imagine that car with even better gearing, and say a Jackson Racing Supercharger setup, NOTHING short of a supercar would be able to run with it, especially on a track. There was a company in Europe, Sun, who put the B18C5 from the ITR into the Elise, and man was it fast, 1/4 mile time was in the low 11's. Sport Compact Car did a car to car comparison with a Mustang Cobra R ( price was about the same between them was their reasonoing for the test) and it destroyed it in every test they came up with. The car was lighter than the US spec one (around 1800 pounds), but imagine the US spec car with way more tourque and horsepower. |
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| s2oooR |
scooby, CanadianR, and 986guy....thats what ive been trying to tell Magnum all along......wasnt trying to bash him at all....
....well if one becomes avail. I'll see if i cant grab one.... :D anyone wanna buy an S2K? :P |
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| import_3000 |
quote:
Originally posted by schlong69
quote:
Originally posted by djshortys
as long as theres a phone book on the seat, sure!
andy!
well then you have teh issure of not reaching the pedals......blocks perhaps??
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special shoes! |
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| Magnum |
| i didn't even start by saying my car was faster, nor did i say that you should mod my car instead of buying the lotus... just for that kind of money, i would definately purchase something different.... |
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| REFLUX |
damn..the more I look at it the more I want it!
Toyota reliability
Aluminum body (no rus)
Aggressive body styling
Built as a racecar for the streets
GOOD ON GAS :o
dayamn! What do these things usually go for in the UK?
Probably get a good estimate of retail here.... |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
damn..the more I look at it the more I want it!
Toyota reliability
Aluminum body (no rus)
Aggressive body styling
Built as a racecar for the streets
GOOD ON GAS :o
dayamn! What do these things usually go for in the UK?
Probably get a good estimate of retail here....
just checking some sites and i found that it carries an msrp of $38500 USD which'll come out to about $53000 CDN.... If thats the case and the dealers dont add a premium.....I'd seriously be looking for buyers right now....actually...i got a few inquiries already ....lol.
I think i'd still wanna see it in real life though :bigthumbup: B) |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
i didn't even start by saying my car was faster, nor did i say that you should mod my car instead of buying the lotus... just for that kind of money, i would definately purchase something different....
:grouphug: ...I hear ya....plus, the car isnt too practical....no trunk space.....heck, they're putting carpet in there and a stereo just for N. American drivers.... :dunno:
and no place to put the hard top cover! :o |
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| ReMiXed lude |
I'm not feeling its ass
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| Magnum |
quote:
Originally posted by ReMiXed lude
I'm not feeling its <a onMouseOver="self.status='http://www.780tuners.com/ass';return true;" onMouseOut="self.status=''; return true;" onClick="window.open('http://hg45.com/kwin?cl=default&mcl=26e487eef6c8c15802aaf49ac292b56a&kw=ass','_new', 'toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,resizable=yes,s
crollbars=yes');" href="#">ass</a>
whos ass are you feeling... :gay: |
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| mrprecidia |
| I'm going to get one!!! I have loved this car forever and I will own it oh yes...... |
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| s2oooR |
| yeah....someones gotta show me how to post pics cuz i have a few really good ones i wanna put up! |
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| h22civic |
| There will be an Elise in the city next fall. A friend has put his deposit down with the Vancouver dealer who will be distributing them. They say delivery of OCt-NOV 2004 for Canadian cars. Should be interesting. He is an auto X-er and hopes to mop up with this little gem. |
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| SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
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Originally posted by ReMiXed lude
I'm not feeling its <a onMouseOver="self.status='http://www.780tuners.com/ass';return true;" onMouseOut="self.status=''; return true;" onClick="window.open('http://hg45.com/kwin?cl=default&mcl=26e487eef6c8c15802aaf49ac292b56a&kw=ass','_new', 'toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,resizable=yes,s
crollbars=yes');" href="#">ass</a>
whos ass are you feeling... :gay:
Remixed lude = girl w/ a hot ass Prelude. :bigthumbup: |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by h22civic
There will be an Elise in the city next fall. A friend has put his deposit down with the Vancouver dealer who will be distributing them. They say delivery of OCt-NOV 2004 for Canadian cars. Should be interesting. He is an auto X-er and hopes to mop up with this little gem.
do u mind if i ask how much he's paying for one??? ...and btw, what color too? |
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| ManHunter |
Damn, I want one too!
what's the price on it? 53000$? details! details!
And it's a 6 gear manual with a top speed of 225kph?? That car is geared 100% acceleration!
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by ManHunter
Damn, I want one too!
what's the price on it? 53000$? details! details!
And it's a 6 gear manual with a top speed of 225kph?? That car is geared 100% acceleration!
MH
YUPPERS!!!!!
the more I look at it, the more i want it (i have a pic of it as my desktop :P)..... at this rate i'll be heading down to teh dealership in Vancouver next time im down there.... (2 weeks maybe?)
....anyways yeah Eric....it might be even less than 53 000 CAD by the time 2004-2005 comes around....Our dollar just keeps on going up up and UP!
Hey, sell your car...i'll sell mine...and maybe we can get a deal on two of them :D :wub: :grouphug: :owned: |
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| Copper |
quote:
Remixed lude = girl w/ a hot ass Prelude.
:wub: I second that, DAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: |
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| Magnum |
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Originally posted by Copper
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Remixed lude = girl w/ a hot <a onMouseOver="self.status='http://www.780tuners.com/ass';return true;" onMouseOut="self.status=''; return true;" onClick="window.open('http://vy20.com/kwin?cl=default&mcl=26e487eef6c8c15802aaf49ac292b56a&kw=ass','_new', 'toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,resizable=yes,s
crollbars=yes');" href="#">ass</a> Prelude._
:wub: I second that, DAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub:
lets see some pics if she's all that. :wacko: |
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| Impulse |
| it acually uses the same engine as the impulse does, that car is awsome it is only like 1700pounds no p/s or any of thaty outher stuff that takes up space and makes weight. :bigthumbup: |
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| SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS |
quote:
Originally posted by Magnum
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Originally posted by Copper
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Remixed lude = girl w/ a hot <a onMouseOver="self.status='http://www.780tuners.com/ass';return true;" onMouseOut="self.status=''; return true;" onClick="window.open('http://vy20.com/kwin?cl=default&mcl=26e487eef6c8c15802aaf49ac292b56a&kw=ass','_new', 'toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,resizable=yes,s
crollbars=yes');" href="#">ass</a> Prelude._
:wub: I second that, DAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub:
lets see some pics if she's all that. :wacko:
No, I didn't say she was hot. Her lude is tight as f@ck though. :bigthumbup: :blink: |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS
No, I didn't say she was hot.
ouch!!
Rommel: MSN me the pics I'll upload them for you |
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| SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
quote:
Originally posted by SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS
No, I didn't say she was hot.
ouch!!
Rommel: MSN me the pics I'll upload them for you
Haha, that came out totally wrong. I haven't seen her, can't make the call on what she looks like. But that's not really the point I was trying to make. Her lude is dope!! :bigthumbup: |
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| s2oooR |
| I just sent u the pics ....hope to see them on here soon! :D B) :wub: :bigthumbup: |
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| MR99siR |
they've been in north american for a bit. i read in car and driver that the elise couldn't pass emissions a couple yrs ago. when the lotus imported them here they had to replace the power plant to get the insured in the states. oddly enough the same specs posted here closely resembles the b18c5=P
same engine they had to put in to the elise when they had it imported a couple yrs ago as well. looks like it |
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| -]TooL[- |
| Id still love to rip around in one of them! That looks fun. :bigthumbup: |
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| colossus |
| That thing looks wicked. But how come it's so expensive if it's supposed to by Lotus' entry level car? :blink: |
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| SplineZ |
heh.. lotus.... entry level... is there such a thing? :)
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by colossus
That thing looks wicked. But how come it's so expensive if it's supposed to by Lotus' entry level car? :blink:
why, did u think lotus was cheap? :lol:
I wonder what Ferrari's entry level car is? :unsure: |
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| colossus |
| Lotus doesn't have the same cachet as Ferrari. A Lotus is really just one step above a Toyota MR2 and about 5 steps below a Lamborghini. :rolleyes: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| except for the lotus espirt which is competition for the aston martin vanquish and the lamborghini diablo |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
except for the lotus espirt which is competition for the aston martin vanquish and the lamborghini diablo
yeah, lets see an MR2 produce the same numbers stock :P ....if its just a step down, it should be able to keep up, right? |
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| CanadianR |
quote:
Originally posted by colossus
Lotus doesn't have the same cachet as Ferrari. A Lotus is really just one step above a Toyota MR2 and about 5 steps below a Lamborghini. :rolleyes:
Who cares? Do you buy a car to impress your friends at the country club or what? The European-spec Elise was voted by many as the third best handling production car, behind only the 360 Modena and i can't remember the other car. Lotus has improved upon this for the US-spec car and figures it will surpass both to become the best handling car in the world. It'll also keep up with all but the supercars, but at a price of about $53 000 Canadian or so. Who needs cachet when you can have what is being called by many as the purest sports car on the planet? |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
except for the lotus espirt which is competition for the aston martin vanquish and the lamborghini diablo
yeah, lets see an MR2 produce the same numbers stock :P ....if its just a step down, it should be able to keep up, right?
R just grab one, they're ultra rare, SUPER cool and you've finally seen the light and stepped on over to British cars :bigthumbup: the handling is second to none for the price. You'll make a hype r or 944 s look like a big boat on the track! |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
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Originally posted by s2oooR
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
except for the lotus espirt which is competition for the aston martin vanquish and the lamborghini diablo
yeah, lets see an MR2 produce the same numbers stock :P ....if its just a step down, it should be able to keep up, right?
R just grab one, they're ultra rare, SUPER cool and you've finally seen the light and stepped on over to British cars :bigthumbup: the handling is second to none for the price. You'll make a hype r or 944 s look like a big boat on the track!
Im working on it :P |
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| autot |
| Mr2, one step down from Lotus? Give me a break. I guess that would make the KIA one step down from a Toyota |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by autot
Mr2, one step down from Lotus? Give me a break. I guess that would make the KIA one step down from a Toyota
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| ManHunter |
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Originally posted by autot
Mr2, one step down from Lotus? Give me a break. I guess that would make the KIA one step down from a Toyota
Hey, my Kia is on par with a Toyota!
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| Nightstalker |
| the only reason that that is true is because toyota started selling Jbodys in Japan.. I have lost all respect for them.. I have been driving a 4d cavi for the last week because my civic is in the body shop.. HURTING RIDE!!! it does not even have a tape deck.. its brutal.. I had a 4dr civic rental a year ago.. it was a million times better. |
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| SplineZ |
depending on which shop you go to you get different cars.. My moms van was in the shop for a week and they gave her a f@cking 89 nissan sentra xe. It had NOTHING. well wait.. it had blower vents and windows that go down!
When my truck was in the shop, my replacement vehicle was a 2002 Dodge Dokota SLT 4x4 ext.
Base models of ANY car/truck is pretty baron. what can you expect for the lowest ammount of $$ posible?
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| 986guy |
:( The New Lotus Elise is $ 59,000 Can MSRP, plus options, Freight, and PDI, it is a bit more then I expected, but what can I do ? still .. a nice car for under $70,000, and it will be quicker then an Porsche 911 Cab, but half the price still ! :D
However.. I am the 18th on the list .. Weissach pre-sold over 20 of them already, and should start arriving next Sept/Oct, 2004.. but I have to wait till early 2005 ... :wacko: |
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| s2oooR |
| might as well buy it in the states.....our exchange rate is better and probably WILL BE better by the time 2005 rolls around :bigthumbup: |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by s2oooR
might as well buy it in the states.....our exchange rate is better and probably WILL BE better by the time 2005 rolls around :bigthumbup:
What about the warranty then - is it still valid?
Or is there even a warranty on them (Since they have Honda drivetrain)? |
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| 986guy |
:D ha ha, buying a Brand new car from US ? no way .... $40,000 US , still work out at $53,000 can ... only $ 7,000 diff ! and I don't know if we can even do that, such as insurance, plate ..etc ... ;)
Used cars should be ok .. but NEW car .. don't think it works. |
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| SplineZ |
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
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Originally posted by s2oooR
might as well buy it in the states.....our exchange rate is better and probably WILL BE better by the time 2005 rolls around :bigthumbup:
What about the warranty then - is it still valid?
Or is there even a warranty on them (Since they have Honda drivetrain)?
nononono
Toyota drivetrain..
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| s2oooR |
what do u mean, "ONLY $7000?" You dont think you'd like to have saved $7000? Im sure u can think of a bunch of things to get with $7000 :P
....anyways, im not worried....i think the price will drop by alot as our dollar goes up! I think its a pretty safe bet that our dollar will continue to rise :bigthumbup:
I just dont see a $40 000 USD car selling for $60 000 CAD when the canadian dollar is at $0.80 or more
I just checked, the dollar is trading at $0.767291 USD ...which would make the car $52 133 (using $40 000 and not the MSRP of $38-39 000 USD) |
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