| Signing A Prenup. - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Honda_Honey |
| Would you be offended, hurt, angry, etc. if your S.O. asked you to sign one? |
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| SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS |
| Yup. I come from the old school of thinking. When I marry, it's gonna be the right girl and it's gonna be for life. |
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| ChromeDragon |
Whatever, people get so offended by the stupidest shit. The prenup is just a detail that is coming along with so many marriages now.
Chromey |
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| REFLUX |
| No, I wouldn't be offended. |
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| GirlRacer P1 |
| I wouldn't be, but I also don't plan on marrying. |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by GirlRacer P1
I wouldn't be, but I also don't plan on marrying.
Thanks for letting everyone know your decision online! *sniff*:tear: |
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| PraxRX7 |
prenups protect your assets...
You can NEVER be to careful! |
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| GirlRacer P1 |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Thanks for letting everyone know your decision online! *sniff*:tear:
hahahaa, awww, there there Matt.... It would have to take a really special guy for me to marry him.... but then everyone is like that, not just me. |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by GirlRacer P1
hahahaa, awww, there there Matt.... It would have to take a really special guy for me to marry him.... but then everyone is like that, not just me.
My mum says I'm special!:rolleyes: |
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| Magnum |
i talked to my families lawyer, and i was told that prenup's arnt valid in alberta anyways.... or i would have had one a long time ago...
Just do what I did, dont put anything in your name... use parents/siblings:bthumbup: |
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| Honda_Honey |
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Magnum i talked to my families lawyer, and i was told that prenup's arnt valid in alberta anyways.... or i would have had one a long time ago...
What, really??? My coworker just recently had one drafted for her marriage and both her husband and her are residents of Alberta. She will soon inherit a huge chunk of change. |
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| Flex |
| Prenups don't really mean squat......you can sign one but theres ways around everything when it comes to the law. I spoke to my lawyer about it once, he said they can be fought and over rulled. |
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| Flex |
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Originally posted by Magnum
Just do what I did, dont put anything in your name... use parents/siblings:bthumbup:
that doesnt work either......if the other party can prove its your stuff, they can get still get at it. Had a buddy go that route.....didn't work. |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by Flex
that doesnt work either......if the other party can prove its your stuff, they can get still get at it. Had a buddy go that route.....didn't work.
The old trick of selling your buddy your car and no cash exchanging hands right before the divorce eh? |
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| Jockette |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Thanks for letting everyone know your decision online! *sniff*:tear:
heh heh! |
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| quickshifter2 |
| Don't forget folk that the divorce rate is like 65-70% these days, I'd want one to protect everything I worked hard for. |
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| IDiOM |
| I would have been offended. Gotta have trust. |
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| PraxRX7 |
| well if a prenup is invalid and can be worked around...count me out of ever gettin married. |
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| Miss Nikki Sixx |
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Originally posted by PraxRX7
well if a prenup is invalid and can be worked around...count me out of ever gettin married.
You are so freakin sad. Why??
You are way way too cynical, negative and pessimestic. It makes me want to vomit. |
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| PraxRX7 |
Vomit away. Or show me why I should be positive.
Getting married and having a family isn't really all that important to me at this point in my life. Right now it just looks like more financial difficulty, and that I don't need.
I know many good people who lost years of hard work because of their spouse. (Both male and female) |
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| Miss Nikki Sixx |
I was refering to ALL your posts regarding women and relationships in general.
Buddy, you're a hurtin unit and only because it's you who wants to be that way.
And the truth isn't always nice, so call it mean if you want. |
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| GirlRacer P1 |
| That is a pretty mean thing to say. The guy has a few girl problems, who's life is so perfect that they do not ever feel the need to vent amoung friends? |
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| Spike7ss |
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Originally posted by Miss Nikki Sixx
I was refering to ALL your posts regarding women and relationships in general.
Buddy, you're a hurtin unit and only because it's you who wants to be that way.
And the truth isn't always nice, so call it mean if you want.
Some people have to work long and hard to get to where they are, they dont recieve handouts from everyone. That is why people like to think before doing stupid things, becasue every positice action has an negative reation.
How can you go abouts judging someone you dont even know, all you know is that that person can type, you dont know there whole story, so dont go around making assumptions ;)
What nerve do you have to bash people becasue they have it hard or not i life. |
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| PraxRX7 |
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Originally posted by Miss Nikki Sixx
I was refering to ALL your posts regarding women and relationships in general.
Buddy, you're a hurtin unit and only because it's you who wants to be that way.
And the truth isn't always nice, so call it mean if you want.
Its not mean, its your opinion, criticism can be a good thing on a creative level. With a civil tone to your post (which you have), that is all I could ask.
The problem is that I have tried, I used to be a nice guy who wanted to date and have relationships, but I have yet to have a good experience.
When you taste the milk and it is sour, you are reluctant to taste it again.
Not all men have good luck with women...this is a fact. Not all women have good luck with men, this is also a fact.
If you met me you would think I was a nice person, but my views and opinions can only be based on my personal experience, not on what other people want to hear...
Your right, as far as relationships go I am pretty negative, however, I am also very supportive of other peoples relationships. I believe that if someone has a relationship that is worth working hard for they should. Its just not something that is right for me at this time, that is all...that might change some time, I will keep an open mind to that. Until then, I can't change my views and opinions because I can't change my experiences.
Anywho...back on topic.
If I did get married and my wife to be wanted a prenup I would gladly sign it if it meant being happy the rest of our lives. However, if I asked my wife to be to sign a prenup and she responded "don't you trust me?" my next response might end up in a break up lol :p I would never ask that question if I was asked to sign one. Verifying trust is vital for some people.(Paranoid as I may be :p ). If it means being happy together forever, then a prenup is a very small price to pay.
I'll try to make my posts more positive in the future. [depression disorders rule!] |
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| Insomniac |
My $$$ > Her $$$ <----Prenup!
Her $$$ > My $$$ <----No Prenup!
Lesson over. |
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| Miss Nikki Sixx |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
My $$$ > Her $$$ <----Prenup!
Her $$$ > My $$$ <----No Prenup!
Lesson over.
Takes the cake for officially the stupidest answer yet:
I think that's a pretty convenient answer, and convenient in a mighty stupid way.... if you don't understand why, just take a few seconds to think about it... brutos! |
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| superpirate25 |
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Originally posted by IDiOM
I would have been offended. Gotta have trust.
It's not only about trust. Things can change in a relationship and if it goes sour, you never know what somebody would do. |
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| HKSpowers |
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Originally posted by SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS
Yup. I come from the old school of thinking. When I marry, it's gonna be the right girl and it's gonna be for life.
Its great you hold traditional valuse and morals, but in todays society as scandelious as people can be it wouldent hurt to have some sort of financial security other wise you might never get married looking for the right girl.
Or go broke in the process!
PRENUP ALL THE WAY!! WOO HOO :bthumbup: |
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| REFLUX |
So many people say they will most definitly sign a prenup prior to marriage...
but I wonder how many really will???
When you're in love and at the height of your romantic "career" (so to speak), not much else matters and the very thought of "divorce" is unfathomable. |
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| buzzed |
SIGN ONE!!!!!! I thought i only would be married
once..old school thought.... but she left me for an ex
boyfriend...we were together for 8 yrs, 3 of wich were
married, She was kind enough to bring home divorce
papers on our 3 yr anniversery... so yeah, nothing is forever
sign for unseen circumstances |
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| -]TooL[- |
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Originally posted by buzzed
SIGN ONE!!!!!! I thought i only would be married
once..old school thought.... but she left me for an ex
boyfriend...we were together for 8 yrs, 3 of wich were
married, She was kind enough to bring home divorce
papers on our 3 yr anniversery... so yeah, nothing is forever
sign for unseen circumstances
Agreed! Not that deep in it, but ive been there. |
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| Insomniac |
What about living with someone? I heard some people get burnt that way.
Guy/Girl lives with guy/girl for 6+ months (roomies or "lovers":wub: ), one person splits, sues the others saying they were married under common law and all shit hits the fan.
Anyone have insight on this? |
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| PraxRX7 |
Ah I have lots of insight on that.
My father allowed a female friend of his to move into his house (she was paying rent the whole time, separate rooms, and no BOOM BOOM ;P)
Anywho, they lived in the same house for 6-7 months, and then she started drug dealing and acting weird and drinking a lot, buring her car for insurance purposes, and getting paid out. (my dad refused to get involved with her) so we asked her to leave.
My dad then decided to sell his house and just before the deal went through a lean popped up on the house. she has a lean put against the house as a spouse. She demanded $65000 of it. Now if you know anything about real estate, you will know that if a sale gets frozen after the sale papers have been signed, the real estate agent can sue the crap out of you too (which ours tried to do, but we got the court to allow the sale but freeze the money).
Now here is the problem, they were never in any form of relationship beyond 2 people helpin eachother out. But she "claimed" that she gave him lots of money while they were together.
Now under law in alberta (The Adult Inter-depentecy law, passed in July 2003), you are common-law under 3 rules.
1. You have a child together
2. You have been living together for 3 years.
3. Your money has improved directly because of her (taking advantage of her, using her money as yours etc.)
Now she got a lean against the house without any notice to my father, and he is not exactly financially happy now. The house sale was allowed through, but the funds were frozen. So here he is, no place to live and no money from the house sale...awesome!
Now the court date has been pushed back twice (and can be one more time). It has been 4 months now and the courts still haven't made a decision because the trial dates keep getting moved. Needless to say we are helping eachother out now for survival.
Anywho, its her word against his in court now (still anywhere from 4-8 months away). He has obtained written physical evidence that he owes her nothing (agreements, rent cheques etc.), but he is still screwed until the court decides to look at the case and make a judgement (and I hate to say it but courts tend to favor the women).
This is how our crappy legal system works. I can put a lean on your house for no reason while you are selling it (if you need the money or something) and freeze the sale just to screw you over, then the sale and your assets can be frozen while the court date keeps getting moved further and further away. Meanwhile you go broke and have to delcare bankruptcy. I get no money, but your credit is screwed.
This is why WRITTEN agreements for opposite sex roommates is a MUST and any money borrowed or loaned should also be in written documentation, signed by a witness.
I am a paranoid bugger, but with good reason. Can never be to safe.
On a humourous note, with a same sex roommate he or she could claim to be homosexual and also put a spousal lean on your assets. Gotta love our stupid legal system and even dumber politicians behind them. |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
PraxRX7: Ooooooooh!:angry:
This girl has SUCH a monster powerbomb coming her way, physically or Karma-wise :angry: :angry: :angry:
Verboten |
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| Flex |
| Thats one nasty bitch to do something like that......hopefully the truth all comes out. If he has rent cheques from her proving she was paying rent then he should be ok. When I split up with my ex, thats what my lawyer told me if I was ever to have a female move into my house with me....roomate or otherwise. He said get cheques from her for the rent...no cash and give her a receipt and keep a copy. Then is anything ever comes up you have proof she was a roommate and is not able to take you for anything. |
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| PraxRX7 |
| witness signed tenant agreements are useful as well...disclosures too. That is probably overkill though. |
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| Insomniac |
Damn women:angry:
I thought it was 6 months though, not 3 years??? |
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| PraxRX7 |
| Nope I asked a family lawyer as well as consulted the alberta government website and it is 3 years. |
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| V8Less Girl |
It may sound very naive but I believe in marriage for love. And that its the whole "Til death us do part" deal. So i feel like a pre-nup is saying 'we'll see how long this lasts then we've got an easy get out.'
But when I actually comes to it...maybe. I don't know. Preferably not.
Marriage isn't about money, nor expecting to be divorced. |
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| buzzed |
no its not but i married for love and the whole death do ya part
stuff as well , i figured you only get married once. BUT stuff happens UNFORSEEN, it can be the girl too . prenup is very smart
all i walked alway with was a few thousand from the house sale and very little else. i cant even go and get an apartment cause i cant afford to furnish it right now... thats what i get for being with her for 7 yrs and trying to provide the best i could afford for her.
YES I AM BITTER:mad: :asshole: :angry: |
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| Honda_Honey |
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Originally posted by buzzed
no its not but i married for love and the whole death do ya part
stuff as well , i figured you only get married once. BUT stuff happens UNFORSEEN, it can be the girl too . prenup is very smart
all i walked alway with was a few thousand from the house sale and very little else. i cant even go and get an apartment cause i cant afford to furnish it right now... thats what i get for being with her for 7 yrs and trying to provide the best i could afford for her.
YES I AM BITTER:mad: :asshole: :angry:
I'm sorry to here that buzzed but thanks for sharing. You have every right to be bitter.
This is how I look at it, you can always tear it up. |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by buzzed
no its not but i married for love and the whole death do ya part
stuff as well , i figured you only get married once. BUT stuff happens UNFORSEEN, it can be the girl too . prenup is very smart
all i walked alway with was a few thousand from the house sale and very little else. i cant even go and get an apartment cause i cant afford to furnish it right now... thats what i get for being with her for 7 yrs and trying to provide the best i could afford for her.
YES I AM BITTER:mad: :asshole: :angry:
All u walked away with was a few thousand from the house? Whatever happend to 50/50? Personally, i think u got ripped off big time....
I think i read in my law class that everything u owned prior to you two getting married, is YOURS...and she cant get at any of that....but everything u guys obtained DURING the marriage (whether u paid for all of it or not), she's allowed half of that?
I think its called the matrimony Act or somethign like that? i dont know... |
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| WeDgE |
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Originally posted by s2oooR
All u walked away with was a few thousand from the house? Whatever happend to 50/50? Personally, i think u got ripped off big time....
I think i read in my law class that everything u owned prior to you two getting married, is YOURS...and she cant get at any of that....but everything u guys obtained DURING the marriage (whether u paid for all of it or not), she's allowed half of that?
I think its called the matrimony Act or somethign like that? i dont know...
Is this really true?? Seems fair enough to me. |
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| buzzed |
| well by the time all debts were paid(her schooling-5g) and a few other small bills (credit cards and shit) paid off the house we were left with 10g. so i gave her 2 g. to help buy her a car.(new focus) i had 3 left cause she wanted to use her money for something...who the f knows... but yeah its tru years have taught me the basics of math...divorce divides time subtracts. |
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