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| Those were pretty good. The end of the animated one was the best! "So, in closing.....terrrorist, terrorist, terrorist....9-11,9-11...god bless america." hahahha |
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Those were pretty good. The end of the animated one was the best! "So, in closing.....terrrorist, terrorist, terrorist....9-11,9-11...god bless america." hahahha
Did you go look at the finalists at all? I saw some that I thought were better than the winners in there. |
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| rexxrally |
| Some of those are EXCELLENT, bang on the money! |
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BUSH may be dumb for some of the things he did in America but I think that they made the right choice to go after Saddam....
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| rexxrally |
Going after a dictator on a personal vendetta (finishing daddy's work) against the UN and almost all of your friends is not a good move.
He's put the home economy in tatters, with the largest deficit budget ever seen, so that they can drop bombs on Iraq.
There's bigger, badder, more deadly dictators in Africa right now, but Bush goes after Saddam, claiming he's part of the Axis of Evil? He went after him, and not the African dictators, because there's no oil in Africa (well, some, but not in the right places). Iraq is the 4th biggest supplier of oil to the States.
I was a really big Bush supporter. But, after 9/11, he became so focused on one topic that he stopped running everything else, and the whole economy derailed. I still supported his invasion of Afghanistan, because that's where the terrorists came from.
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well the afghanistan thing is in there too.....and I believe that both countries have and were harbouring terrorists....
I dont not follow international news to often so I am not sure if Africa has any Terrorists threatening america....
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I wish people would just stop talking about fucking terrorists. Terrorists are usually bred from failed regimes in the hopes of regaining some control on their lives. By taking Iraq, Bush has just increased the animosity towards the US. Millions have died in a civil war raging in the Congo in the past decade, nearly a million people were wiped out in mass genocide in Rwanda. I'm not saying Hussein was a great person, he was terrible, but there were bigger issues to deal with and Bush decided to finish what his dad started.
I've been told that there is a former congress member who is telling all about the plan Bush had for the world before 9/11 even happened. Once I find some more info I'll be sure to let you guys see it.
The biggest obvious problem at the moment in our world is Pakistan and India fighting in Kashmir, yet we very rarely hear about this. Right beside that is the ongoing Palestinian/Israeli conflict, not to mention North Korea and Syria. Bush went after what was decided by many to be a somewhat tame regime at the time. There is now more violence happening in Iraq every day than before the war began. Bush ignored the UN and went against their wishes, in all rights he is a war criminal and should be tried before the world court. Imperialism has no place in our world anymore, when is the American government going to realize this?
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| superpirate25 |
If the us is so concerned about ridding the world of these "terrorist training schools" and these brutal regimes that harbor terrorists, why don't they start at home... The war in Iraq was to serve other interests, not to get "the terrorists" ,save the citizens of Iraq from a dictatorship or destroy their massive stockpiles of wmds.
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Taking on the School of the Americas
Graduates from Ft. Benning partook in Latin America's most corrupt regimes, yet Congress still funds the school
by Rev. Charles Booker-Hirsch
Since the tragedy of 9/11, we have learned some of the ways Osama bin Laden has schooled his al-Qaida organization into a formidable terrorist organization. No major media organization I know of, however, dares today to discuss how for more than five decades - the last two decades on our own soil - our own government systematically has been operating a more substantial terrorist school.
Established in Panama in 1946 as a hemispheric Cold War beachhead, the U.S. Army School of the Americas (SOA), which operates solely for the training of Latin American military officers, was moved to Ft. Benning in Columbus, GA in 1984. Over 60,000 have graduated. They include Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega and Bolivian dictator Hugo Banzer; the assassins of an archbishop, a bishop, six Jesuit priests and four American churchwomen; and countless other military strongmen responsible for the deaths of literally hundreds of thousands.
From 1989-93, I worked with and heard the graphic persecution stories of untold numbers of Central American refugees fleeing de facto military dictatorships. It was no coincidence that the majority of SOA graduates in those years hailed from the Central American countries of Guatemala and El Salvador. Today, the majority of trainees are imported from Colombia, where we have pumped over $2 million of military aid daily the last two years into a "war on drugs" smokescreen for business interests that has only served to inflame the 40-year civil war there. Just two weeks ago, a narrow House majority freed this "drug eradication" money to openly engage in counterinsurgency operations. Vietnam, anyone?
In 1996 the Pentagon was forced to release training manuals used at the school that advocated the use of torture, extortion and execution, according to The School of the America's Watch, a watchdog organization. Even after these were made public, Defense officials continued to point out that most of the school's graduates had not committed the scores of human rights abuses against the millions of refugees fleeing the wrath that's come. This may be true. At the same time, for the last 55 years most of the Latin American military officers who actually ordered these abuses learned their lessons well through our taxpayer-supported SOA.
After the House of Representatives decisively voted to shut down the school in 1999, a House-Senate conference committee voted 8-7 to keep it open, provided the school be renamed - get this - the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC). Even SOA proponents saw no difference in the much-touted renaming.
Georgia's late Sen. Paul Coverdell assured his constituents the name switch was "a cosmetic change," and the Columbus, Ga. Ledger-Inquirer strongly concurred in a recent editorial. Different name - same shame. Orwellian Doublespeak, anyone?
Please join me and numerous communions such as the Presbyterian Church in urging leaders such as our distinguished Sen. Carl Levin, Chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, to close SOA/WHISC and discontinue "Plan Colombia." The irony again is that, in the midst of our current war on terrorism to parts East, we train and unleash scores of future terrorists yearly to parts South. Hypocrisy, anyone?
Rev. Charles Booker-Hirsch is pastor of Northside Presbyterian Church in Ann Arbor. He was one of 43 indicted in April for trespassing onto Ft. Benning during what he describes as a solemn nonviolent civil disobedience action last November. The "SOA 43" trial date has been set for July 8 at the U.S. District Court in Columbus, GA.
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I think one of the biggest eye-openers I ever experienced occurred when I started looking at media that originates outside the US.
Check out websites of newspapers and/or TV stations in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East.
When you get the whole picture, based on what the world is saying, you see just how "pro-American" spun the news is in the States, and even to some extent, Canada.
And it's not even just about the issues of terrorism and Iraq. It's EVERY topic that's covered in the news.
American foreign policy since WWII has been the biggest, most deadly terrorist in an axis of evil the world has ever seen.
The Americans re-drew the borders of most of the countries in Europe, Africa and the Middle East at the end of WWII. They didn't take into account tribes and ethnic races when they did it. Consequently, tribes and/or races were split in two or more pieces between countries, and multiple tribes/races were put together into one country in many places.
Consequently, there have been more wars in Europe, Africa and the Middle East since WWII than there has been in the entire world for all of recorded history before WWII. |
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Wow, good thing you lefties aren't voting in the elections later this year when Dubya gets 4 more years...:D
Considering we would probably all be talking Russian if we hadn't been hiding behind the U.S. since WWII I should be surprised at the liberal rhetoric on this board. You would think that the pathetic excuse for government that we put up with in Canada would be enough to complain about.:banghead:
Maybe they can come up and clean up our mess...
http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/000769.html
Don't you liberal types have trouble driving manual trannies with your knees jerking all the time?:D |
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I think one of the biggest eye-openers I ever experienced occurred when I started looking at media that originates outside the US.
Check out websites of newspapers and/or TV stations in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East.
I figured that was common sense :dunno:
PS- all you Bush haters, haha, I hope you enjoy the next four more years starting 2005, because the democratic presidential candidates have NOTHING on Bush, regardless of popular opinion on him |
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| rexxrally |
| That's a really beautiful Avatar, Miss Nikki Sixx. It really brings out the (black and) blue in your eyes ........ :p |
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I think one of the biggest eye-openers I ever experienced occurred when I started looking at media that originates outside the US.
I couldn't agree with you more. You can't trust any single news source (especially american news sources) in this day and age because apolitical journalism is dead (if it ever existed).
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Wow, good thing you lefties aren't voting in the elections later this year when Dubya gets 4 more years...
Yeah good thing, because you know, these past 4 years have been really great for Canada. What with the americans banning our cattle, putting unfair tarrifs on our soft lumber exports, and attempting to buy out nationally sensitive industries, I feel things couldn't get any better. :rolleyes:
Why any Canadian is happy to see Bush in power is beyond me because he hasn't done a damned thing for our country. And don't fool yourself by thinking the neocons of today are the same men who attempted to contain the former USSR of days past. |
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I couldn't agree with you more. You can't trust any single news source (especially american news sources) in this day and age because apolitical journalism is dead (if it ever existed).
Oh no it's not dead, it's just ALOT harder to find.
www.fair.org
One of the first things we learn as journalists is to substantiate and corroborate our information. You always have to get both sides of a story, it's bad journalists that don't do this that make the whole profession look bad.
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Oh no it's not dead, it's just ALOT harder to find.
www.fair.org
One of the first things we learn as journalists is to substantiate and corroborate our information. You always have to get both sides of a story, it's bad journalists that don't do this that make the whole profession look bad.
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Hahahah substantiate and corroborate! That brings back memories. But yes a few journalists really make the proffesion look like shit. |
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Yeah good thing, because you know, these past 4 years have been really great for Canada. What with the americans banning our cattle, putting unfair tarrifs on our soft lumber exports, and attempting to buy out nationally sensitive industries, I feel things couldn't get any better. :rolleyes:
Why any Canadian is happy to see Bush in power is beyond me because he hasn't done a damned thing for our country. And don't fool yourself by thinking the neocons of today are the same men who attempted to contain the former USSR of days past.
Anyone who thinks that having a Democrat in charge will make the U.S. give a crap about Canada is being a tad optimistic.
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