| orangeteg |
| Anyone knows anything about the e-manage? or is it better to go for a Hondata or AEM?? let me know if anyone ever tried the e-manage and if it's pretty comparable to a standalone?????? |
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| REFLUX |
it all depends on your BUDGET and your GOALS.
If you have a large budget then your ideal setup is to go with a standalone.
With a standalone you have the most amount of versatility & programming options/control. In my eyes, it is the best way to go for engine management (best as in, if you want to do it right...using a standalone is doing it right).
But your goals are also key, if you just want an extra few HP, a piggyback may be most ideal (best bang for your buck). If you want to say...turbocharge a Honda, (to me) an S/VAFC barely cuts it.
from my point of view, spend the extra dollar to do it right & do it once
much fewer headaches & :mad:
EDIT: If you're considering a standalone, I'd say Hondata is an excellent choice purely due to the massive amounts of support it has compared to AEM EMS |
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| orangeteg |
| Which one would you recommend Hondata or AEM? |
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| REFLUX |
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orangeteg
Which one would you recommend Hondata or AEM?
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Originally posted by REFLUX
EDIT: If you're considering a standalone, I'd say Hondata is an excellent choice purely due to the massive amounts of support it has compared to AEM EMS
hehe, must've been editting my post as you wrote yours ;) |
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| Adam @ Apex |
Check out www.perfectpower.com
We carry all of their products, awesome units. We have the SMT-6 in stock now.
Read up on it, its a reliable, affordable alternative. |
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| THEONE |
| GO AEM its very flexible and powerfull! |
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| orangeteg |
| Should I buy a Fuel Management Unit or does the AEM will do all this work for me????? |
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| THEONE |
| Aem well do fuel, timming, nitrous control, two step, anti lag, boost control, display and log wideband, and much much more! |
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| Bucktown |
| the e-manage/e-01 seem to be a good way to go. its not a standalone, but its darn close. with the screen, it eliminates the need for a laptop, and is very easy to use. it also displays boost, rpm and throttle%. with all the sensors it'll run you close to 2 g's, and aem is just over that i think...i saw an install, and it went very smooth...thats what i bought, but i got a deal i couldnt refuse. ive also heard that hondata is finiky, and aem just came out with new program a while back (i think) that ive heard good things about. but like i said, i got a deal i couldnt refuse, or i wouldve gone aem....my 2 pennies |
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| CanadianR |
| I would personally go with the Hondata. It'll be alot easier to setup and properly tune than a standalone, plus you can keep all your stock sensors(ie knock sensor) and features like cold start idle etc. because it's still a Honda ECU. You are also OBDI right? You can't beat the price of the Hondata for OBDI. I would be scared of going with a standalone unless i had someone locally who was a wizard with that particular unit and a very experienced tuner. The last thing i'd want is a car that idles like crap when cold or had little (or not so little) glitches in it's performance. Remember, it's not too hard to tune full throttle map settings, but it's only a tiny fraction of the map settings that need to be set up. Partial throttle maps are far more time consuming, but are what are used most of the time. With the Hondata you can download a completely stock map for your ECU and build off of it, whereas i don't think you can do this with standalones. |
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| THEONE |
| AEM does come with a stock base map, and cold startings etc are already setup! I have heard good things, and bad things about all three but I'm a little biased because most of my experince is with the AEM unit on my own car, and friends cars! |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
I would personally go with the Hondata. It'll be alot easier to setup and properly tune than a standalone, plus you can keep all your stock sensors(ie knock sensor) and features like cold start idle etc. because it's still a Honda ECU.
Doesn't Hondata offer a standalone system? Programmable with laptop, I believe it is called S200 or somethign?
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| Bucktown |
| yes it does. not sure bout the name tho.... |
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| autot |
| If you have the cash, and regular access to a dyno with O2 readout, than that is definetly the way to go. If not, for half the price, you could get into an apexi v-afc, and an aem uego kit. The uego is very important if you go piggy back to ensure you are running the right mixture. Does the S-afc/V-afc have ignition control????? This would be my prime concern. |
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| WeDgE |
| Hondata systems run off the stock ECU. |
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| CanadianR |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
Doesn't Hondata offer a standalone system? Programmable with laptop, I believe it is called S200 or somethign?
:dunno:
It's a chipped Honda ECU, so you can't really call it a standalone. |
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| orangeteg |
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Originally posted by Almost
want to buy a tec3 standalone system?
www.electromotive-inc.com
What comes w/ the tec3, would this control the things that I needed? Does this come in a kit or do I still have to buy any wirings???? |
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| scooby_dooby |
the cool thing about having a honda is there's a crap-load of FREE rom editors people have made. You can download your stock rom, modify it as you wish, burn it to a chip and put it back in the car.
Some of the more advanced rom editors even have data-logging i think, and all of them will allow you to control both your fuel and timing maps.
PE-Tuning will socket your ecu for $75, which means they install a socket so you can easily swap chips. Blank chips(EEPROM's) are like $5. Then you'd need a eeproom burner ($75).
Check pgmfi.org for all your Honda ecu editing needs. TurboEdit, Ghettodyne and BRE are all good editors. |
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| Insomniac |
| Dude, tell us your set up and who you plan on having install/tune. |
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| WeDgE |
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Originally posted by scooby_dooby
the cool thing about having a honda is there's a crap-load of FREE rom editors people have made. You can download your stock rom, modify it as you wish, burn it to a chip and put it back in the car.
Some of the more advanced rom editors even have data-logging i think, and all of them will allow you to control both your fuel and timing maps.
PE-Tuning will socket your ecu for $75, which means they install a socket so you can easily swap chips. Blank chips(EEPROM's) are like $5. Then you'd need a eeproom burner ($75).
Check pgmfi.org for all your Honda ecu editing needs. TurboEdit, Ghettodyne and BRE are all good editors.
Too bad none of them will work for my setup... :( Looking into the SMT6, though. |
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| Almost |
The tec3 comes with a ECU, distributorless ignition set-up, power harnesses, wire harness, coolant sensor, manifold air temp sensor, heated 02 sensor, MAP sensor, software and computer cable....
basically everything you need to run.
I'm selling mine for $3500 |
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| ae1969 |
I am using the SMT6
Extremely user friendly....
and very fun to tune with...
:) |
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