| GeoffDonk |
Yo, I know I'm a noob, but i wanna hear about all the silvias in edmonton. RWD nissan drifting madness :D.
I have a white s12 notchback.
so s110's, s12's, s13's (i know there's lots of you), s14's and even s15's (i saw the tightest one at school the other day, bronze with a spoiler) speak up.
btw, no 90's model 200sx's please, they = B14 which = sentra. |
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| nissanz32 |
| Something tells me that if you live in edmonton you didn't see a s15.Check out the NECC forum under the club zone.Lots of nissan guys. |
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| GeoffDonk |
| Yeah, i agree, it was probably an s14. I just got caught up in seeing it, and it looked like an s15. What would it take to get one of those in town anyways? like how much cash on top of the car? |
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| phat240 |
i believe there is one in calgary though..
i drive a s14 but ntohing really doen except intake, exhaust, lowered and rims. plus a system |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
Yo, I know I'm a noob, but i wanna hear about all the silvias in edmonton. RWD nissan drifting madness :D.
fo sho y0!!!
we be into all dat mad tizzite drifting JDM stunna stylez y0!!!!!!!!!
FO SHIZZLE MAH NIZZLE TIZZLE DRIZZLE!!!!
1) welcome to the board
2) stunnaz = :thumbsdow :english:
3) calgary has an S14-> S15 conversion
4) go into the Marketplace and head down to the "Import Concern" forum, they import JDM cars and can tell you ALLLLLLLLLLL about you getting your very own S15!!! |
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| Kiddo |
| s15 = illegal in canada u probably seen s15 front end conversion on an s14 |
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| GeoffDonk |
right, imports are illegal til they're 15 years old or something, correct?
By the way you wont have trouble with me not speaking english, i leave off punctuation sometimes, and capitalization, but i'll never speak in 1337 or anything. i guess i said noob... |
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| REFLUX |
s'all good man
just giving you a hard time about the "sylvia jdm drift madness" bit ;) |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
right, imports are illegal til they're 15 years old or something, correct?
By the way you wont have trouble with me not speaking english, i leave off punctuation sometimes, and capitalization, but i'll never speak in 1337 or anything. i guess i said noob...
www.riv.ca
not all are. jsut some.
PS, drifting is gay. |
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| blk240sx |
| what do you mean drifting is gay,,,,,,,,,,im guessing either you drive a front wheel drive car and cant do it and are jelous or drive a rear wheel drive and are just to scared to try it |
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| DeathBy240 |
I had an S110, but in December it got written off, and my poor little piece of "silvia history" went to the junkyard. :tear: I have yet to only see only one other S110 driving around, but it is rusted beyond belief. :tear: On a lighter note I have an S13 and I am in the midst of installing the SR20. No drifting for me tho, I can't afford to maintain a drift car...
Welcome to the boards.
Reflux-Its Silvia
Z28-You must have confused drifting with yourself.
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by blk240sx
what do you mean drifting is gay,,,,,,,,,,im guessing either you drive a front wheel drive car and cant do it and are jelous or drive a rear wheel drive and are just to scared to try it
ya my front wheel drive SS, only one made.
I guess there are slower ways around a course, like braking.
I choose not to do it, as 275 40R17 KD's get expensive real fast.
I do U turns, sometimes fishtail, but not "drifting" |
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| GeoffDonk |
| I saw a domestic drift comp once. It was kinda messed, but they can do it just the same. heh. I'm shooting to get an s13 in the near future and turn my s12 into a real drifter, for now i just cheat-drift arond icey corners. |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
I saw a domestic drift comp once. It was kinda messed, but they can do it just the same. heh. I'm shooting to get an s13 in the near future and turn my s12 into a real drifter, for now i just cheat-drift arond icey corners.
Can you really tell me about what the apeal to drifting is?
I mean I really msut not get it at all. I think its jsut gay.
My cars stock and has more then enough power, but why? I mean maybe if your sponcered, but if not, I couldnt watch 700 in tires go up in smoke for nothing, I mean what do you get out of it, sure stunts like that are all fun and stuff. but you have nothing to show but less tread and a lighter wallet. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Dont use 700 dollar tires... |
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| GeoffDonk |
| It's fun, and it's a skill. It's fun to be a good drifter, and its fun to watch a good drifter. I dunno. I love it. If you dont you dont, what can you do. |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
It's fun, and it's a skill. It's fun to be a good drifter, and its fun to watch a good drifter. I dunno. I love it. If you dont you dont, what can you do.
Its not hard to control once you get the tires going.
Maybe I'll try with my winter, this wil lbe the last year for the rears. they will see roasting whens it dry out.
350 a tire is what I got on the car, even cheap ass tires for my size are like 200 each. |
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| GeoffDonk |
it's really not easy to control once they're spinning. Thats why poor drifters have mix matched rims and fucked fenders, sponsored drifters go fuck shit up all the time by going off course. Just hit up an iced over parking lot sometime late at night (I recomend heritage mall lot) and spin all over the place. you wont hurt your tires, and if you arent an idiot your body will escape ok as well :D
BTW, winters are the stupidest tires to drift with because they're so soft and the burn fast. I realize you said you wouldnt need them anymore, but if you did that would be foolish. |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
it's really not easy to control once they're spinning. Thats why poor drifters have mix matched rims and fucked fenders, sponsored drifters go fuck shit up all the time by going off course. Just hit up an iced over parking lot sometime late at night (I recomend heritage mall lot) and spin all over the place. you wont hurt your tires, and if you arent an idiot your body will escape ok as well :D
BTW, winters are the stupidest tires to drift with because they're so soft and the burn fast. I realize you said you wouldnt need them anymore, but if you did that would be foolish.
On the snow its easy. did that in the rental cts. but used south commons brick lot. doing 8 with the islands things.
I think my winters are harder then the gforce KD. they will be 1/8 tread left by march, and march 27 my summers go on for the dyno that day, and the winters are coming off with the belts showing. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
| I used to have an S12..... :tear: |
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| 2003specv |
Nobody in Edmonton drifts. I bet 99% of the "drifters" here fishtail thier cars once in a while and are all like, yo mad drift sucka!
Here's my challenge. The first person who shows me a REAL drift (meaning going into the corner sideways, and powering out) will get 50 big ones. Yep thats right $50 of my money.
Step up gentlemen.:bthumbup:
Edit: This is on dry pavement in warmer temps. |
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| ChromeDragon |
I need more power first.....hehe
Unlike most people that just fishtail though I can control the car and modify the slide. With ~100hp it's a little tough to get the car sliding in the dry, but in the rain I've drifted full circles no problem.
I'll hold you to that when my car gets her from Japan though, lots more power and LSD will mean $50 pour moi!:bthumbup:
Chromey
P.S.Yo!! MAD DRIFT SUCKA!!! |
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| ChromeDragon |
As far as tires go, get some cheap rims and shitty tires to burn off when you're sliding around. I can pick up a pair of tires for my car for like $30. I don't care what the tread is like, I'm going to be killing them anyways.:bthumbup:
Now I just need to find a cheap tire changing machine and I'm set!:blink: |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
As far as tires go, get some cheap rims and shitty tires to burn off when you're sliding around. I can pick up a pair of tires for my car for like $30. I don't care what the tread is like, I'm going to be killing them anyways.:bthumbup:
Now I just need to find a cheap tire changing machine and I'm set!:blink:
Its still hard, my car burns them all so fast, I burnt off some walmart fubber off a pair of my buddies salad shooters, but it only took like 30 seconds, the cheap tires jsut disinigrated doing the donuts.
I'll get drifting on video, but in a parking lot, I wont endanger others on the street if something fucks up. |
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| redbaron303 |
The RIV list is only good for bringing cars to Canada from the USA, typically produced or sold in the USA. IE: RIV says NO to EVO8, but yes to Eclipse.
If they're coming from out of country, they'll need to be 15 years old to the month they're produced in.
As for drifting, it's pointless... but why not have some pointless fun!? I think if you can drift like the D1 guys in Japan you have ultimate control over your ride! :) |
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| Nis240 |
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Gangsta
I used to have an S12..... :tear:
Man those cars are so slow, my buddy had an automatic one and he let me take it for a rip. First of all it took me like 20 min to get to 140 k (This was on a track of course .. hehe) then after that it climbed to 150 k in another 10 min of flooring. But i did get her goin sideways in a parking lot even with the 90 BHP and auto trans. |
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| nissanz32 |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffZ28
[B]Can you really tell me about what the apeal to drifting is?[B]
What is the appeal of any motorsport. You do it cause you like to.Different people like different events |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by redbaron303
The RIV list is only good for bringing cars to Canada from the USA, typically produced or sold in the USA. IE: RIV says NO to EVO8, but yes to Eclipse.
Funny, I can bring a BMW, MB, Porshe, ferrari.... among others from over seas, need to get different bumpers, and different windshields in some.
They jsut have ot be biult to the standards of North america most of the time.
But to drifting, ok ya I can kinda see, but lots of motorsports is winning. being the quickest.
I personally love the competition, and while drifting is "competitive" its not really here, and I think judge's take away from who could really be best. |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by DeathBy240
Reflux-Its Silvia
silvia
sylvia
seelvia
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| Alpha Gangsta |
quote:
Originally posted by Nis240
Man those cars are so slow, my buddy had an automatic one and he let me take it for a rip. First of all it took me like 20 min to get to 140 k (This was on a track of course .. hehe) then after that it climbed to 150 k in another 10 min of flooring. But i did get her goin sideways in a parking lot even with the 90 BHP and auto trans.
Considering they were from the 80's I'm sure they're slow to comparison for most of todays cars. Was your buddies car even a turbo model or even the V6 models? Thank god i had a 16G turbo and FMIC among other things to help out. haha. Even with just a boost controller the S12 wasnt bad on the street(shhh... yeah I know street racing is bad and I've officially stopped) |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by Nis240
Man those cars are so slow, my buddy had an automatic one and he let me take it for a rip. First of all it took me like 20 min to get to 140 k (This was on a track of course .. hehe) then after that it climbed to 150 k in another 10 min of flooring. But i did get her goin sideways in a parking lot even with the 90 BHP and auto trans.
fack off. Automatic sucks. My standard has some go with the 2 liter engine, 1.8 turbos have some pretty serious kick. I'm thinking of dropping in an SR20DET this summer, then it would go reaaal nice.
As far as the 50 bucks on the line, I'm not up for it :( |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Gangsta
Considering they were from the 80's I'm sure they're slow to comparison for most of todays cars. Was your buddies car even a turbo model or even the V6 models? Thank god i had a 16G turbo and FMIC among other things to help out. haha. Even with just a boost controller the S12 wasnt bad on the street(shhh... yeah I know street racing is bad and I've officially stopped)
the v6 model was never available in canada. |
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| captain nismo |
:wavey:
I got an 89 s13 f/b. Its pretty stock right now. Welcome to 780tuners and be sure to check out the NECC page.
:) |
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| DeathBy240 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
fack off. Automatic sucks. My standard has some go with the 2 liter engine, 1.8 turbos have some pretty serious kick. I'm thinking of dropping in an SR20DET this summer, then it would go reaaal nice.
As far as the 50 bucks on the line, I'm not up for it :(
I heard the CA18DET has much easier to drop in, than the SR. Obviously not as pwerful but from what I hear it is way less of a headache, and of course about $1000 cheaper. i considered dropping one into an S12 but the weak rear suspension turned me off, plus I already had an S13.... |
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| captain nismo |
quote:
Originally posted by DeathBy240
I heard the CA18DET has much easier to drop in, than the SR. Obviously not as pwerful but from what I hear it is way less of a headache, and of course about $1000 cheaper. i considered dropping one into an S12 but the weak rear suspension turned me off, plus I already had an S13....
Hmmm. That makes me think twice. I'm thinking about going CA18det as opposed to SR. With that extra grand i could rebuild it and possiblely upgrade the turbo as well...:confused: |
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| GeoffDonk |
| yeah but hte SR wouldnt be a big hassle into the s13. The s12 was made for the CA engine, you could probably use hte stock tranny with the CA18DET (as it's just a CA18ET with dohc). We'll see. That might be a good idea. I definately need my lame 105HP CA20E out of there. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
I can't remember exactly but awhile ago I was doin research on droppin an SR20DET into an S12 chassic and apparently the engien drops in fine but you'll need to either source out a datsun 510 driveshaft or else have one made custom, also the positon of the shifter would have to be modded and the top of the tranny shaved a few millimeters to fit properly.... these of course beign ontop of the other usual things involved in swapping engines.
or if you wanan be trully unique... drop in the FJ20ET. It was the S12 RS-X in japan and came with ~190HP mmmm.... |
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| GeoffDonk |
i have a guy on my s12 message board that dropped in the sr... sec i'll find a link.
i dunno that he had to shave the tranny, i think the wiring was a bigger issue/mounts.
... nm that guy dropped in a KA24, thats why it was so much hassle. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Yeah I heard with the SR->S12 the driveshaft doesnt line up and the mounts are different which really makes no sense seeing that both the CA and SR go into an S13 with no modification. Captain Nismo - most guys that I hvae heard that did a CA swap wne FMIC and got an SR turbo right right off the bat, as they both really suck, from what I hear. I planned on doing a CA swap for a long time, but I decided to buy the SR instead. The CA seems like a really good engine if you are on a tight budget though. AS far the the fj20 I know there are a few people in the states that have them in their S12's and I know that there is a complete one for sale with a spare block, all for $1500. I hear they are pretty hard to find nowadays, and most likely they would need a rebuild. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
quote:
Originally posted by DeathBy240
Yeah I heard with the SR->S12 the driveshaft doesnt line up and the mounts are different which really makes no sense seeing that both the CA and SR go into an S13 with no modification.
Where did you hear the mounts are different? I talked to 3 guys with SR20 swaps in their S12s a few years ago and they never mentioned the engine mounts needed modifying... just curious. but yes, the driveshaft did need moddign though. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| I think I heard about it on Club S12, but I guess it was just some misinformation, as this is the internet. :D |
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| GeoffDonk |
| the FJ20 is becoming like a cult classic amongst us s12'ers. Something like 195 base hp (i may be talking out of my ass hear). |
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| the_saint |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Nobody in Edmonton drifts. I bet 99% of the "drifters" here fishtail thier cars once in a while and are all like, yo mad drift sucka!
Here's my challenge. The first person who shows me a REAL drift (meaning going into the corner sideways, and powering out) will get 50 big ones. Yep thats right $50 of my money.
Step up gentlemen.:bthumbup:
Edit: This is on dry pavement in warmer temps.
A single drift is not as impressive as linking drifts together. Even only 2 :)
Let me get my FD here and I will try and claim that $50 :) |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by the_saint
A single drift is not as impressive as linking drifts together. Even only 2 :)
Let me get my FD here and I will try and claim that $50 :)
Pssssh, that money will be mine! I suppose we can see who wants to put up at the SCC Calgary. It looks like there will be a drift exhibition put on during the evening.
CHromey:bthumbup: |
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| Nis240 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
fack off. Automatic sucks. My standard has some go with the 2 liter engine, 1.8 turbos have some pretty serious kick. I'm thinking of dropping in an SR20DET this summer, then it would go reaaal nice.
As far as the 50 bucks on the line, I'm not up for it :(
Serious kick for the turbo model eh... 17 s 1/4 mile and 9.5 0-100 kph and i thought my car was slow.
Why drop a $5000 engine into a $2000 car. just import a silvia, it will be cheaper , faster, newer and handle better in the end, hell they just had an 88 silvia for $4300 .:dunno: |
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| GeoffDonk |
| who cares the value of the car? the s12 has a lot of potential. Also where did you get those 'stats'? |
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| 180drifter |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
who cares the value of the car? the s12 has a lot of potential. Also where did you get those 'stats'?
the s13 chassis has way more potential then the s12 chassis! If you don't beleive me do a little research. |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by 180drifter
the s13 chassis has way more potential then the s12 chassis! If you don't beleive me do a little research.
I never said anything against that, the s14 chassis > the s13, and the s15 > the s14. Thats what car makers do, they make cars better. But you pull up to a red light and the guy next to you is in an s12, you know you can beat them. S12 is a better sleeper. |
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| captain nismo |
| IMO the s13 chassis>s14. The s14 got more bloated as the years went by. Its still a great platform but i believe the s13 is better. |
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| 180drifter |
quote:
Originally posted by captain nismo
IMO the s13 chassis>s14. The s14 got more bloated as the years went by. Its still a great platform but i believe the s13 is better.
I agree! :bthumbup: |
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| GeoffDonk |
| yeah. when i'm done with my S12 it will be virtually an s13 anyways. That and some z28'age. Just a boxier look. |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Nobody in Edmonton drifts. I bet 99% of the "drifters" here fishtail thier cars once in a while and are all like, yo mad drift sucka!
Here's my challenge. The first person who shows me a REAL drift (meaning going into the corner sideways, and powering out) will get 50 big ones. Yep thats right $50 of my money.
Step up gentlemen.:bthumbup:
Edit: This is on dry pavement in warmer temps.
Hmmm... two people replied to this. Why am I not surprised?:lol: |
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| jdms13rhd |
| I live in Lethbridge. Can i just drive up to Edmonton and take the challange :) . I think mo people should drift so we can start up a real big event and have some real fun! |
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| jdms13rhd |
| Yes you really must not get it. Drifting to me is a rush. It gets me pumped and every time i practice a new style of drift it gives me more and more pride for how i drive and what i have put into my car. I just love to drift just like fat people like to eat. Its a talant that i need to keep feeding. Maby you need to find one and than you will understand? |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by jdms13rhd
Yes you really must not get it. Drifting to me is a rush. It gets me pumped and every time i practice a new style of drift it gives me more and more pride for how i drive and what i have put into my car. I just love to drift just like fat people like to eat. Its a talant that i need to keep feeding. Maby you need to find one and than you will understand?
A talent? Or a fat person? |
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| jdms13rhd |
| Sorry i thaught this was a different page. My bad. |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by jdms13rhd
I live in Lethbridge. Can i just drive up to Edmonton and take the challange :) . I think mo people should drift so we can start up a real big event and have some real fun!
Anyone can step up to the challenge. As long as I see it with my own eyes.... $ for you. |
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| jdms13rhd |
| Where do you guys drift in Edmonton? Some place in the industrial? I dont even want the money, i just want to have some fun:D If i had my car out of the paint booth i would drive up there right now. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| I would hope nobody drifts in the industrail areas. Good chance of hitting curbs/people/signs/buildings. |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by jdms13rhd
Where do you guys drift in Edmonton? Some place in the industrial? I dont even want the money, i just want to have some fun:D If i had my car out of the paint booth i would drive up there right now.
an 88 silvia convertable? the 88 silvia was the s12.... and i dont think it came in convertable. |
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| DeathBy240 |
No the 88 S-chassis car was the S13 Silvia in Japan and the S12 200SX here. jdms13rhd has an 88 S13 Silvia Convert.
No matter how much as you think your car is a Silvia, it isn't. Even if you swapped in the FJ20 it would still be a 200SX. Just like my 240SX isnt a 180SX... nothing can change that. |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
A talent? Or a fat person?
bahhahahaha
it'd be best to keep drifting in a safer & more controlled environment than the streets ;) |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by DeathBy240
No the 88 S-chassis car was the S13 Silvia in Japan and the S12 200SX here. jdms13rhd has an 88 S13 Silvia Convert.
No matter how much as you think your car is a Silvia, it isn't. Even if you swapped in the FJ20 it would still be a 200SX. Just like my 240SX isnt a 180SX... nothing can change that.
hahaha. you're a good guy and all, just a little missing upstairs. Here's how the naming works -
200 = 2.0 liter
S = silvia
X = beats me
My car is a 2.0 litre silvia. 180sx means 1.8 liter silvia, 240sx means 2.4 liter silvia.
The only thing is these naming conventions dont work totally, since there were some 200's in north america that were 1.8's as well as 240's that were 1.8's but the fact remains that it's the silvia chassis. I agree, no matter how much swapping i do i'll never have a JSPEC silvia, but as far as i'm concerned i own an S12/200sx. whatever you wanna call it who cares.
Anyhow thanks for informing me about his owning an s13, none the less i've never seen an s13 convertable either. anyone got pics of one of htese? |
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| captain nismo |
| USDM got the 240sx convertiables as a 94 model year. It was the transition car between the s13 and the s15. Imagine a 240sx coupe without the roof and thats a convertiable. |
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| GeoffDonk |
quote:
Originally posted by captain nismo
Imagine a 240sx coupe without the roof and thats a convertiable.
:rolleyes: |
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| jdms13rhd |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
an 88 silvia convertable? the 88 silvia was the s12.... and i dont think it came in convertable.
My Silvia is from Japan and they made the Silvia S13 starting in 88. They only made a few hundred s13 silvia convertibles to use up the rest of the 88 s13 shells. If you want the info i can give you a web page that tells all the history of silvias from the begining Japanese and north american. I wouldnt lie to youlike that. Do you want to see some pics? |
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| jdms13rhd |
BTW the s13 convertible only came blue in color and it came with a ca18 4spd auto. I already have the sr20det swaped in and i have it in the paint booth right now.
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread....;threadid=36399
here are pics of the car before the paintbooth!
it was allready painted red! |
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| DeathBy240 |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
hahaha. you're a good guy and all, just a little missing upstairs. Here's how the naming works -
200 = 2.0 liter
S = silvia
X = beats me
My car is a 2.0 litre silvia. 180sx means 1.8 liter silvia, 240sx means 2.4 liter silvia.
The only thing is these naming conventions dont work totally, since there were some 200's in north america that were 1.8's as well as 240's that were 1.8's but the fact remains that it's the silvia chassis. I agree, no matter how much swapping i do i'll never have a JSPEC silvia, but as far as i'm concerned i own an S12/200sx. whatever you wanna call it who cares.
Anyhow thanks for informing me about his owning an s13, none the less i've never seen an s13 convertable either. anyone got pics of one of htese?
Please don't tell me I am missing something upstairs when you are the misinformed one. "S" does not stand for Silvia it is the chassis code. (eg-the 300ZX's chassis code is a Z32). It may have been derived from the Silvia name, but neither of our cars, or any cars that were made for North America are Silvia's. The S chassis 200SX never came with a 1.8 litre and neither did a 240. The 240 has only come with 2 engines, the KA24E and the KA24DE both 2.4 litres. The 200SX that is based off the Sentra chassis (B-something) did come with a 1.8 litre though, the CA18DE. The S110 200SX came with a 2.0 litre hence the name, but was then changed to a 2.2 litre (Z22e) which I owned. The name was kept 200SX much like how the 180SX name was kept when they changed engines from a CA18DET to an SR20DET. You are right however, you do own an S12 200SX, just not an S12 Silvia. |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
Please don't tell me I am missing something upstairs when you are the misinformed one. "S" does not stand for Silvia it is the chassis code. (eg-the 300ZX's chassis code is a Z32). It may have been derived from the Silvia name, but neither of our cars, or any cars that were made for North America are Silvia's. The S chassis 200SX never came with a 1.8 litre and neither did a 240. The 240 has only come with 2 engines, the KA24E and the KA24DE both 2.4 litres. The 200SX that is based off the Sentra chassis (B-something) did come with a 1.8 litre though, the CA18DE. The S110 200SX came with a 2.0 litre hence the name, but was then changed to a 2.2 litre (Z22e) which I owned. The name was kept 200SX much like how the 180SX name was kept when they changed engines from a CA18DET to an SR20DET. You are right however, you do own an S12 200SX, just not an S12 Silvia.
You're right, the "s" in sx is the chassis code, s12, s13, s110, whatever. Those are silvia chassis. ZX's and Z's are Z car chassis.
As far as the 200sx not comming with a 1.8 liter engine - the s12 200sx came with a CA18ET, a 1.8 liter engine. none the less we werent debating that.
I'd hate to say it but you arent going to change my opinion on anything. I own a silvia and so do you (my opinion). Neither of us own silvias (your opinion). Nothing i say will make you think you do, likewise, nothing you say will make me think i dont, so dont bother.
the 200sx sentra was the B14 btw, not that it has any relevence - it's not a silvia. The nissan namers were smoking something when they came up with this. |
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| mx73someday |
| I like how S12's from the states had the VG30, would've been too confusing to call it a 300SX I think. |
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| GeoffDonk |
| haha, yeah no they just got lazy over here. Named things whatever. But that was the 300zx's non turbo engine in the s12. The s12 had the weight advantage at the time too, so it probably could have taken 300zx. |
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| 180drifter |
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Originally posted by GeoffDonk
You're right, the "s" in sx is the chassis code, s12, s13, s110, whatever. Those are silvia chassis. ZX's and Z's are Z car chassis.
As far as the 200sx not comming with a 1.8 liter engine - the s12 200sx came with a CA18ET, a 1.8 liter engine. none the less we werent debating that.
I'd hate to say it but you arent going to change my opinion on anything. I own a silvia and so do you (my opinion). Neither of us own silvias (your opinion). Nothing i say will make you think you do, likewise, nothing you say will make me think i dont, so dont bother.
the 200sx sentra was the B14 btw, not that it has any relevence - it's not a silvia. The nissan namers were smoking something when they came up with this.
LOL, you are so clueless!!! Its amazing how little some ppl know and that they are unwilling to even learn! I'm not gonna write anymore cuz its apparent I would only be wasting my breath.
ps. You said somthing about it not mattering that your car is an s12, because you are gonna make it look like an s13. That really doesnt matter. Point is its still a s12, and s12's had shitty ass rear suspension - there is little you can do about this. |
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| DeathBy240 |
Yeah, the S12 did come with the 1.8 litre I forgot about that one, it came with the CA18ET, and the CA20 and in the states the VG30.
180SX
Silvia
I can't say i drive a Silvia. Look at the differences. It's like people going to Canadian Tire and buying GT-R or Type R decals. It's not what your car is, so don't put the decal on. |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by 180drifter
LOL, you are so clueless!!! Its amazing how little some ppl know and that they are unwilling to even learn! I'm not gonna write anymore cuz its apparent I would only be wasting my breath.
ps. You said somthing about it not mattering that your car is an s12, because you are gonna make it look like an s13. That really doesnt matter. Point is its still a s12, and s12's had shitty ass rear suspension - there is little you can do about this.
:rolleyes: i never said i was gonna make it look like an s13, i said i'd be taking parts from an s13. I like the s12 look and am gonna keep it. One of the things i was planning on changing out was the rear suspension from an s13. My forum is down so i can't get you the thread just yet, but when i can i will. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Man you are wrong. The top one is a 180SX and the bottom one is a Silvia. A Sil80 has the hatchback(the rear end of the 180SX) and the Silvia front end(projector lights). A Silvia K's is the top model of a Silvia as opposed to the Silvia Q, or J, which are lower end models. The S13 Silvia and 180SX came with the CA18DET and CA18DE in 1988 to 1990 but not the 240SX. Like I said earlier the 240SX only came with KA engines. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| I am a lost cause? If you can't tell the difference between a 180SX and a Silvia — you sir are a lost cause. Read that site a little closer, and do some more research, until then don't question my knowledge on a subject you don't know a fucking thing about. |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
I am a lost cause? If you can't tell the difference between a 180SX and a Silvia — you sir are a lost cause. Read that site a little closer, and do some more research, until then don't question my knowledge on a subject you don't know a fucking thing about.
uh - i never said there wasnt a difference between the two, i simply said they're both silvias. |
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| DeathBy240 |
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Originally posted by GeoffDonk
uh - i never said there wasnt a difference between the two, i simply said they're both silvias.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT. THEY ARE NOT BOTH SILVIAS. THE TOP ONE IS A 180SX. YOU WILL NOT FIND A SILVIA EMBLEM ANYWHERE ON THAT CAR OR ON ITS REGISTRATION. PLEASE SHUTUP BEFORE YOUR STUPIDITY GIVES ME A HEART ATTACK!! |
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| DeathBy240 |
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Originally posted by GeoffDonk
Actually they're both silvia's. The second one is a special case called a "Sil80" or "silvia k".
Look at the heading right beside this picture. It says Silvia and 180SX. |
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| GeoffDonk |
Here's the problem, we're seeing differently what exactly it takes to be a "silvia". I'm using it a little more loosely and generally. You're saying it's only a silvia if it came out with silvia badges or whatever, I'm generalizing and saying all cars developed on the 's' chassis are silvia's. We have a difference in opinion and that is fine. I realize the DSM equivilents lacked a lot by comparison to the real silvias. I'm aware of your "silvia vs. 180sx" differences. Let's just leave it be. From the start I didnt wanna get in some stupid flame war but we did none the less> shit> i held shift for eight seconds now its stuck on> haha messed
anyhow peace fellow "sx" driver< i think we can agree on that> |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
Look at the heading right beside this picture. It says Silvia and 180SX.
yeah but if you look at the title of the page it's called "silvia history"
whatever read my above post |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Opinion doesnt play a part in what cars are named. Just because there is a picture of a 180SX on a Silvia website, it doesn't mean it is a Silvia. A Sunfire owner can't say they drive a Cavalier, although its based on the same chassis. |
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| redbaron303 |
That SIl80 is soooo pixilated.... :(
But I do have to say... wow, those three rides look familiar ;)
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| mx73someday |
Quit using pictures from Import Concern, you're going to use up all my bandwidth!!! j/k
You wouldn't call a Gazelle a Silvia would you? They are virtually the same car, but they have some differences. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by mx73someday
Quit using pictures from Import Concern, you're going to use up all my bandwidth!!! j/k
You wouldn't call a Gazelle a Silvia would you? They are virtually the same car, but they have some differences.
sorry dood......edited :dunno:
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| mx73someday |
| You didn't have to change it, I was kidding. |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by mx73someday
You wouldn't call a Gazelle a Silvia would you? They are virtually the same car, but they have some differences.
well that's where opinion comes in. I might call it a silvia, where as death by 240 wouldnt. I probably wouldnt call it a silvia, as i dont call my car a silvia.
note: a major reason for this argument is the fact that you guys care a lot more about the name of the car. I could care less if my car was called the "nissan shitmobile", fact of the matter is if someone has a non-engine related problem on their s12 silvia, they could probably help me if i had the same problem. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by mx73someday
You didn't have to change it, I was kidding.
I know you were just joking but I actually think about whether to post pics (and use bandwidth) or just the URL's when I ADVERTISE for you guys :p :p :p :p
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| JustinL |
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Originally posted by GeoffDonk
well that's where opinion comes in. I might call it a silvia, where as death by 240 wouldnt. I probably wouldnt call it a silvia, as i dont call my car a silvia.
note: a major reason for this argument is the fact that you guys care a lot more about the name of the car. I could care less if my car was called the "nissan shitmobile", fact of the matter is if someone has a non-engine related problem on their s12 silvia, they could probably help me if i had the same problem.
I disagree. I think most people here are concerned with calling a car what it truly is. They may be virtually identical platforms, but there are differences that separate a silvia, 240, 180 and even the sileighty. You are trying to say that a silvia and a 240 are the same car, when clearly they are not... same chassis, but different car. *** I also want to point out that you, in fact, DO call your car a silvia.
Anyway, the reason that I am replying to this thread is that I have a question. How much torque can the 240's drive train handle before things start to break? And, what breaks first?
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| 180drifter |
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffDonk
:rolleyes: i never said i was gonna make it look like an s13, i said i'd be taking parts from an s13. I like the s12 look and am gonna keep it. One of the things i was planning on changing out was the rear suspension from an s13. My forum is down so i can't get you the thread just yet, but when i can i will.
I believe the problem with the s12 rear suspension is that it is a solid rear axle and lacks a trailing arm. I really dont think that this is something that can easily be worked around ie you said that you were just gonna swap in rear suspension from a 240sx. I dont think it is that easy, but then again I am only guessing on all this as I know little about the s12 and I am definatly not an expert on rear suspension. However I do know that the suspension set up on a 240sx is very similar to that of a BMW of roughly the same era. Does this mean I can call my car a nissan 240 silvia M3 X? |
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| GeoffDonk |
Cut the flames - i dont call my car a silvia in real life, i call it a 200sx. Second of all - 180 drifter, you can call your car whatever the fuck you want. Hell slap a Type-R sticker on the back, i dont give a shit.
Thirdly, only the 84 s12 had a solid rear axel, the following (including mine) had independent rear suspension (IRS). |
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| jdms13rhd |
| Shut up geoff donk! please gimme a break. damn!:blink: |
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| GeoffDonk |
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Originally posted by jdms13rhd
Shut up geoff donk! please gimme a break. damn!:blink:
you! you started this! lol. None the less im not sure what offended you - me saying that "i dont give a shit what people call their cars" or me saying that my car has IRS. Anyhow this is as good as donem as i said before, but thanks for throwing in a last minute flame, nothing ends a conversation like something like that. |
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| jdms13rhd |
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Originally posted by GeoffDonk
you! you started this! lol. None the less im not sure what offended you - me saying that "i dont give a shit what people call their cars" or me saying that my car has IRS. Anyhow this is as good as donem as i said before, but thanks for throwing in a last minute flame, nothing ends a conversation like something like that.
lol. Your right. But you are the one thats carrying this on. I dont have a prob with you but when a forum is about stupid shit going on and on it takes the fun out of it.
This "silvia shoot out" should be about peps 240's, 180's, Silvias. Whatever, not about people at each others faces about whats what. Lets just keep to the topic. |
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| jdms13rhd |
| So im just wondering how many people have pimped out s13's in edmonton, calgary, red deer, Lethbridge and anywhere else. Also out of these people like to drift and or drag? |
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| 1mns13 |
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Originally posted by JustinL
Anyway, the reason that I am replying to this thread is that I have a question. How much torque can the 240's drive train handle before things start to break? And, what breaks first?
Thanks,
Justin
I'm not sure about the limit, but 350lbs/ft is not a problem for the diff or tranny. The guys that are having tranny issues are drag racing on slicks with about 400 lbs/ft. Most notably 1bad180SX and SRX-1. |
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