| Spyder |
So how come there is no talk about one of the hottest new cars this year, the Mazda RX-8. Well I figure I would make a post and see if I am not the only one thinking this is a sweet ride.
Recently I had been looking into acquiring one, but since they are so new I haven't heard much about reviews other than what is written in magazines. Before I make such a large investment it is nice to be sure it's something I'm gonna keep.
Does anyone out there own one and if so would you mind giving a report on how you like it? |
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| S2000_rider |
| It looks good...they fudged the HP numbers though and did a recall beleive. |
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| REFLUX |
Mazda's HP mistake is going to haunt the RX-8 until the put out some kind of massive HP jump to shut everyone up.
there should be a few RX-8 forums around on the net but I haven't seen any users on 780Tuners speak up about their own RX-8s yet.... |
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| 86rx7 |
| heard they handle so well |
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| 2003specv |
For 45-50k I'd take an STi or 350Z.
I don't care how good it looks, for that price the car should be able to whup on Accords and Maximas. The RX-8 can't do that. |
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| Nis240 |
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Originally posted by S2000_rider
It looks good...they fudged the HP numbers though and did a recall beleive.
Thats what killed it. |
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| Anonymoose |
| It needs a turbo or two. |
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| Transporter |
so ya all now..the truth behind the HP drop was made in canada at the port something to do with emmisions..the cars in japan are putting the advertised values (maybe heresay)
FACT:
But a company "canzoomer" from edmonton has plug and play kits that can restore the much need horespower.
http://www.canzoomer.com/contactus.html
stage 1 20hp
stage 2 40hp
which will restore the car to the first released HP numbers. |
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| ChromeDragon |
Frankly, the RX8 started out looking half decent to me, but over the past year it has just gotten uglier and uglier in my eyes. I'm not saying the car has changed or anything, but I hate the headlights, hate the roofline, hate the doors, the rear end doesn't do much for me. Sure it's an amazing handling car, with sufficient power....but I still hate how it looks.
Chromey |
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| MeXx |
| the rx 8 is my dream car ok i own a mazda 6 and i love it to death one day i want to own an rx8 actually i want both :p |
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| Seks |
1. Lack of power; the hp should be less than the revised 238 hp, according to some dyno's (whp) I've seen on the forum board. Read of one 8 that got beaten by a Solara. Go figure that one out yourself.
2. Engine flooding issues.
3. Horrible gas mileage.
4. A handful of them needed a new engine within a span of 1000 kms to 5000 kms.
I'm not trying to bash it or anything. Just that, if Mazda would clean up their act on this car, I wouldn't mind one. |
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| Seks |
quote:
Originally posted by Transporter
[B]
FACT:
But a company "canzoomer" from edmonton has plug and play kits that can restore the much need horespower.
Met Canzoomer towards the end of fall. Nice fella. Really sharp-looking blue 8 he got. |
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| MeXx |
| wow it got beaten by a solora what did the car have in it turbo supercharge nos?? like that doesnt mean much to say its been beaten by another car. 1 the rx8 is good value for what u get 0 to 60 5.9 sec for a 45 000 car that’s pretty good. The styling its really original. I know they new engine thing is a pain in the ass but mazda is being really good about it. And about the gas mileage it’s a rotary u don’t ever get good gas mileage. And theres a mazdaspeed rx8 coming out now I like to see a solora bet that lol |
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| S2000_rider |
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Originally posted by Seks
I'm not trying to bash it or anything. Just that, if Mazda would clean up their act on this car, I wouldn't mind one.
Whatever man...you drive a shitty ass S2K with NO torque! ;) :lol: |
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| s2oooR |
:lol:
thats funny S2OOO_Rider :p
....Seks is only saying that cuz his gf hates the S2000...she says its too bumpy, small, and whatelse? I dont know....the car isnt very practical!
Mexx: the styling's original?? If u ask me, the front looks like an S2000, just a bit more pointy :dunno: |
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| Spyder |
Geez. I thought this was a good car. I am surprised to hear the comments on overated hp. I am thinking the one that got beat by a Solara must have been an automatic with the lower hp.
Sundance Mazda is going to have one at the car show this weekend. I am going to take a nice long it, but after hearing the comments would definitely want to take one for a nice long ride.
By the way someone posted to look for a RX-8 forum. There is one on the net. The address is www.rx8club.com |
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| Seks |
quote:
Originally posted by MeXx
wow it got beaten by a solora what did the car have in it turbo supercharge nos??
Here's a snip of what the owner said...
"Today, I got spanked [actually about even] by a Toyota Solara V6 AT. It's 225hp and 3241lbs. Without any technical explainations - the RX-8 should NOT trail behind a Solara!!!! It's 13hp less and 241lbs heavier with an auto tranny"
:lol:
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The styling its really original
Front and rear looks like an s2000. Don't know how that can be original? |
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| Flex |
| The gf and i were milling around the idea of selling her car and getting an RX8, but until they work things out with it Im gonna stay away from it for a while. Plus I heard a rumor that mazda is going to re-release a turbo RX-7.......think I may wait to see if there any truth in that. |
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| JDMJOSH1 |
quote:
Originally posted by Flex
The gf and i were milling around the idea of selling her car and getting an RX8, but until they work things out with it Im gonna stay away from it for a while. Plus I heard a rumor that mazda is going to re-release a turbo RX-7.......think I may wait to see if there any truth in that.
Sure, just like Toyota is going to make an MKV Supra. Face it, the era of the Turbo japanese supercars is dead and never coming back... |
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| Flex |
quote:
Originally posted by JDMJOSH1
Sure, just like Toyota is going to make an MKV Supra. Face it, the era of the Turbo japanese supercars is dead and never coming back...
stranger things have happened...........;) |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by s2oooR
:lol:
thats funny S2OOO_Rider :p
....Seks is only saying that cuz his gf hates the S2000...she says its too bumpy, small, and whatelse? I dont know....the car isnt very practical!
Mexx: the styling's original?? If u ask me, the front looks like an S2000, just a bit more pointy :dunno:
Are you sure it's the car that was too bumpy and small, and not something else?:bthumbup: :lol: |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Are you sure it's the car that was too bumpy and small, and not something else?:bthumbup: :lol:
:lol: :bowdown: :owned:
u had me rolling with that one :p |
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| Shabdi |
Rx-8 tried it out at sherwood park dealership quite a agile car the weight balance is outstanding inducing a drift with the dealer guy seated next to me scared him. Fun cars for sure however for the price tag so far i would have to say no it's not worth it. I wonder if people would like it alot more if it was 3-rotor renesis engine?
als0 nterior for a stock car wow I give it a 10/10. |
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| colossus |
| I love the concept rotary speedsters, but the RX-8 is a disappointment. I hear unanimously ppl feel the 350-Z is superior in every way. Plus Chromey has a good point, the RX-8 is fugly. It has no edge and looks too cutsey almost like Beetle. So do dealerships let you test drive one?:rolleyes: |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
Triangles = :greddy:
Just kidding, guys! Nope, RX-8 isn't for me.
Verboten |
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| MeXx |
quote:
Originally posted by Seks
Front and rear looks like an s2000. Don't know how that can be original?
i dont think so have u looked at the rx8 up close??? |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by MeXx
i dont think so have u looked at the rx8 up close???
yup :p |
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| Snowcrash |
| I was quoted 42k and change for an RX-8 GT, so that's a far cry from 45,000 and even further away from STI's 47,000 dollar tag. I don't think the RX-8 is too bad of a buy. I'm pretty impessed with it and if it is at all comparable to the 350Z I would definiatly buy one if I lived where there was a lot less snow. |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
i think the rx-8 is underpowered for what they are marketing it as, the new Rx.. but in value terms, the rx-8 is priced extremely well. The one at the car show was 36,400 which isnt' bad at all for a sports car, if its being compared to the S2k, 350Z, STi/Wrx, Evo, yes it is the cheapest, but also the slowest
As for the engine, well mazda has taken control of the situation, and are replacing everything, but the fact is the hassle that when you buy a new car, you have to replce the engine in it after..what...5000kms like that just shows that mazda doenst test their products enough, or it shows a quality control issue.
The styling is comparable to the s2000, except the rx-8 has a look of a much shorter length, while the s2k has a look of sleek and long, it almost looks like a toy from far away, and it's almost like they forgot to add things, and added them in like last minute (sharp edges between fender and hood, not a smooth translation) but the interior of the rx-8 is quite nice and they have finished it well
overall i think the rx-8 is a nice car, priced well, but underpowered, if i was to invest in one, i would wait until more testing, upgrading and alterations are made to the car, for a higher quality control, and higher performance level is reached
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| MeXx |
| these guys from rx-8 club twin turboed one and got it up to 800 hp. Now thats not underpowerd :p |
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| PraxRX7 |
If the RX-8 was a 2 seater, without the suicide doors, I would sell my Turbo RX-7 and 1st gen and buy an RX-8.
The engine replacement issue is due to 1 major thing. Unlike Nissan, Mazda does not break their engines in from factory. So when someone buys, or test drives an RX-8 and is revving the piss out of it and driving it hard...well don't expect the engine to work properly.
Mazda made an attempt to make a practical car. Something that would appeal to more than just the 2-seater sports car market.
The HP screw up is definitly going to haunt the RX-8 for some time. Sadly the only way I can see mazda getting more power out of the rotary is to scale it up a noch and increase the displacement/turbo-charge it.
I am still looking at an RX-8, the interior is awesome, but sadly I am not a huge fan of the exterior.
For $42,000 (price given to me by a mazda salesman) it is a little bit to much for my tastes. Paying it off over 5 years would be rough because if they came out with a 2-seater then I would be choked for buying the 4-seater.
I think that Mazda wanted to see if the Rotary had a place in the market still. They know that it does beucause people are buying them. With that, Mazda is keeping their optimism up, taking responsibility for their mistakes, and doing everything possible to keep everyone happy.
But when you have guys that come into the dealership (actually happens a lot) that are maybe 20-24 years old with no credit and a trade in coming to buy an RX-8....that doesn't help sales either.
I hope Mazda does come out with a 300-350 HP RX-8 2-seater. And I also hope they don't throw on a huge price tag...
If Mazda put a rotary w/ 238 HP and the 6speed MT into the Miata, they would have just sold me a miata. |
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| Curtass |
About the whole "RX-8 being slower than the 350z", that's bullshit. Top Gear tested both cars on the same day and the Rx-8 pulled the same track time as the 350z. They also said it was alot more practical, more economical and more original than the 350Z. I think I would rather have a fast car with a 1.3L than a fast car with a huge 3.5L.
Just my opinion though.
- Curt |
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| Snowcrash |
| The RX-8 is much cheaper too. I can't think of any other 2004 cars under 40K that can run mid 14's cept' the WRX. |
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| Anonymoose |
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Originally posted by Snowcrash
The RX-8 is much cheaper too. I can't think of any other 2004 cars under 40K that can run mid 14's cept' the WRX.
How 'bout the SRT-4? It's only $28,000 and runs 14 flat. (Waiting for the automatic retard response of "Domestics suck!1!1!") |
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| Snowcrash |
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Originally posted by Anonymoose
How 'bout the SRT-4? It's only $28,000 and runs 14 flat. (Waiting for the automatic retard response of "Domestics suck!1!1!")
No, no front wheel drives suck! but yeah, pretty nice car too.
edit: I'm aware I drive a FWD, doesn't mean I'm happy about it. |
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| s2oooR |
| arent those 350Z's heavy? isnt it around 3200lbs? might explain why the RX-8 produced similar times with lower HP numbers, etc? |
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| MeXx |
quote:
Originally posted by Anonymoose
How 'bout the SRT-4? It's only $28,000 and runs 14 flat. (Waiting for the automatic retard response of "Domestics suck!1!1!")
domestic sucks :bthumbup: |
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| MeXx |
quote:
Originally posted by Curtass
About the whole "RX-8 being slower than the 350z", that's bullshit. Top Gear tested both cars on the same day and the Rx-8 pulled the same track time as the 350z. They also said it was alot more practical, more economical and more original than the 350Z. I think I would rather have a fast car with a 1.3L than a fast car with a huge 3.5L.
Just my opinion though.
- Curt
but you cant really compair the cars like that 1.3L rotery is alot differnt than a v6 3.5L. |
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| SplineZ |
Heh, I used to work for the guy that run canzoomers.. He had a Sentra SE-R Spec V then..
Very nice guy, Smart too..I no idea he was gunna do something like canzoomers tho :)
I was pretty impressed with the rx8.. I didnt drive it tho.. nuff said..
James Z |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
quote:
Originally posted by Anonymoose
How 'bout the SRT-4? It's only $28,000 and runs 14 flat. (Waiting for the automatic retard response of "Domestics suck!1!1!")
i was at derrick dodge and they quoted me $23,000 for an SRT-4 6spd MT and it had alloys and everything*incredible value*
but yet again it's a domestic and i worry about the quality level |
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| Anonymoose |
| They don't make 6 speed SRT-4's. Also, it wouldn't be $23,000 unless it was used. Or unless they were really trying to get rid of it. But seeing as how Derrick has been trying to buy up most of Northern Alberta's SRT-4's because of the demand, I doubt they'd try to do that. |
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| Xpnsve |
| Someone I work with has one.. he says it's a nice ride:lol: |
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| Spyder |
So I took a look a the RX-8 on Friday at the car show.
Why the ^&ck did Mazda even bother putting in a back seat? It's useless. I am 5'9" and could not fit in the rear seat period. I guess it is a sports car, but nonetheless it is useless and could have been replaced with a bigger trunk.
Overall the car is pretty slick. Definitely has nice styling inside and out, however I wasn't taken by either of the paint colours at the show. The blue was bland and the silver looked grey. Maybe the red is nicer...looks pretty sharp in the pictures I have seen.
The one test that I have yet to do is the test drive. From what it sounds like it is underpowered, so my expectations are not that high. Hopefully sundance still has the manual from the car show. A lot of people were looking at them, so it wouldn't surprise me if they are gone.
I will check in later with the results. |
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| Gary |
I don't see what the big debate is all about....this picture should answer most of the questions...
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| s2oooR |
sure doessss!
...seeeeee, the front DOES look like an S2000! :p :bthumbup: :drama: |
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| Transporter |
we will just wait and see give the car a year or so ..the will come out with a 2005 model..which will be better.
and for me..well i wanted one..but knowing how wellc ar deprecaite after you drive out of lot ..i think i miight just wait for now..and if thing come all well you may never know i might just change my mind again...but i might also just get the jdm renesis engine..and do a (4kruzn) special porting and install it into 2nd gen rx7..hmmm all my crazy dreams!!!
back to reality oh yeah i have to be working right now!!! |
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| WookeysRX7 |
quote:
Originally posted by Transporter
but i might also just get the jdm renesis engine..and do a (4kruzn) special porting and install it into 2nd gen rx7.
haha 4Kruzn "special port". rofl..... its funny cause its true.
Sorry guys, its an inside joke.:bthumbup: |
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| rexxrally |
The RX-8 is just plain ol' butt ugly, from one end to the other!
One of the "driving gloves" magazines showed an artist's concept sketch of what they claim Mazda is working on for the return of the RX-7. It looked like the last Trans-Am Pontiac built. Very cool! I think I'll save my sheckles and see if that makes it to production. |
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| Maxt |
I was in Japan in sept/03.....
No detuning was done to the rx-8, they are as slow and overrated in Japan as they are here....Numerous shops were cranking away at speed parts trying to get the hp up....Some of the bigger names in the rotary community there, openly voiced their dissapointment in the power level...My Japanese is very limited and some of those guys hardly speak any English, so I was getting everything through a translator, but from what I was told, that centre port in the middle iron is a power killer, and the overlap disappearing has hurt topend power..... Alot of tuners, simply feel mazda should have been honest about the hp, instead of getting people all hyped about it, then jumping from an FD into an rx-8 and going ummm, where's the power, thats whats happening over there.....
But they do handle well, tons of handling parts for them already overthere, but it definetly needs more power...
I have quite few j-spec rotary mags with numerous right ups about the rx-8 covering all sorts of mods, from exhaust to body kit info, looks like the majority of the rx-8 owners there have just installed N20 systems to make up for the over rating.... FD is still the number one rotary car there, and it will be for awhile....
I was hoping the rx-8 would be quite the stormer, and would renew the rotary in North America, but so far its been kind of a bust for the power hungry enthusiast, although its still selling pretty good by all accounts, luckily enough not every owner is after just power..Maxt |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by rexxrally
The RX-8 is just plain ol' butt ugly, from one end to the other!
:bthumbup: So true. How can they go from the FD to that?:dunno: |
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