| typesly |
| Who here has dyno-tested their ride? If so, what are some of your numbers? I'm brining in my car this week and just curious as to where i stand :) |
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| S2000_rider |
Dyno'd my car last year...
2002 S2000
Mods: AEM CAI
204RWHP
134lbs torque<-------- :blink: :( :dunno:....don't ask. |
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| fawker |
'01 TJ sport
33" tires
3.73
147 rwhp
190 lbs of torque |
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| MeXx |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Dyno'd my car last year...
2002 S2000
Mods: AEM CAI
204RWHP
134lbs torque<-------- :blink: :( :dunno:....don't ask.
low torque is a result of the 4 cylinder in the s2000 |
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| Anonymoose |
96 Neon
198 hp
188 ft-lbs |
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| JeffZ28 |
| 270rwhp and 305 rwtq (stock) |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffZ28
270rwhp and 305 rwtq (stock)
Nice! Don't know much about domestics but are those numbers with an ls-1 engine? |
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| s2oooR |
| 223/132 for me.....on a dynajet |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR
223/132 for me.....on a dynajet
Holyshit!!! can you say FREAK ENGINE! We have to line'em up and do a run...on a roll of course ;).
Very good numbers though! |
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| s2oooR |
that was done in 3rd gear though....
my fourth gear numbers were 217/128
and fifth gear was 201/124 (not sure about the torque) |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Holyshit!!! can you say FREAK ENGINE! We have to line'em up and do a run...on a roll of course ;).
Uh...I don't think Budpark allows for rolling starts...;) ;)
quote:
Original post = Rules & Guidelines
1) There will not be any posts promoting street racing and/or any related topics.
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=12655 |
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| s2oooR |
| :pat: :neener: :read: :loco: :stickpoke |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by MeXx
low torque is a result of the 4 cylinder in the s2000
The fact that it's a 4 cylinder has nothing to do with it. The fact that it has a much larger bore than stroke has everything to do with it. |
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| the BLACK |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
The fact that it's a 4 cylinder has nothing to do with it. The fact that it has a much larger bore than stroke has everything to do with it.
Correct!!! Glad some people know what they're talking about!
I dyno'd @ APEX.
233 HP/ 233 lb*ft
fourth gear. |
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| SilverZ24 |
| My Cavalier dyno'd 198.5hp and 184.9tq at Apex last spring. :) |
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| the BLACK |
| Stage II, summer, that's all i can say for now,... |
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| Transporter |
i got 148hp
132 torque
i know it is low for
RX7 |
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| typesly |
Thx for the responses guys (keep 'em coming!) :) . Some really nice numbers! (Especially on Anonymoose's 96 Neon!)
the BLACK - Nice! is that with a stage I kit? |
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| MeXx |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
The fact that it's a 4 cylinder has nothing to do with it. The fact that it has a much larger bore than stroke has everything to do with it.
i was talking about the engine in general there no 4 cylinder engines alone that have high torque. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| My car goes on the dyno at apex on the 14th. I should have a nice before and after of my car when they install my exhaust. $800 later and I supply the muffler and high-flow cat aint exactly cheap, but it will be worth it. Im expecting between 160 and 165 WHP and something around 175 for torque, though I really have no idea of what my torque is going to be. I have a messed up but great torque curve, or flat line more like. I really do hope I hit 160+, anything less and I know something is wrong, a stock ga will run between 145 and 149 WHP. Who here thinks the guys at APEX are pretty damn smart? I was talking to them for a bit and I liked what I heard from them. |
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| SilverZ24 |
The guys at Apex are great IMO. You don't need to worry about leaving your car in their hands.
My only comment to you is to not get your hopes up too much about the dyno. I don't know exactly what you have in your car, but I wouldn't expect a cat back to add 10-15hp by itself. I just personlly like to go in not expecting too much and be surprised. :) |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Nice! Don't know much about domestics but are those numbers with an ls-1 engine?
LT1, the LS1's put down much more hten that :( |
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| JustinL |
quote:
Originally posted by MeXx
i was talking about the engine in general there no 4 cylinder engines alone that have high torque.
Are you guessing?
There are plenty of 944 turbos that are in the high 200s of torque on stock turbos. Sti makes just over 250ft#. The 968 was able to make 225ft# naturally aspirated in 1993. If that's not enough... there's a 944T in vegas making over 450.
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| bigmack000 |
i will tell yeah guys when the car is doen this summer hoping for 400rwhp :. hope i can get it.
joel |
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| ae1969 |
quote:
Originally posted by bigmack000
i will tell yeah guys when the car is doen this summer whooing for 400rwhp :. hoep i can get it.
joel
You and me both. :)
but I think I will have to settle for 350rwhp.
..... There are some nice numbers that everyone is posting..... you should post yours cars weight along with it......
I find that losing weight is free HP..........thats why I am on the treadmill as we speak........ hehehehehe |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
I did my Fuel Tuning at PE Tuning on September 27, 2003 (Dynapack)
2001 Honda Prelude SE, Automatic
- 152.7whp @ 7116rpm, 97mph
- 112.7ft/lb @ 5560rpm
Mod's at the time: intake, air filter, pulleys, apexi vafc |
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| Inzane |
| 349 rwhp & 382 rwtq @ Apex Modified (Dynojet 248C) last year. |
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| TheWask |
| 180whp with an CAI. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Well SilverZ24, I have my hopes set on 10 WHp because it has been dyno proven that an SLP exhaust with 2.5" mandrel bends give a peak gain of 12 WHP. Id be dissappointed to see less than 10, though for a while there, ive been having some issues with my SES light and perhaps one of my breaks sticking. My rpms seem a little higher than they should be by about 2 to 300 rpms, im thinking my car could use a tune up. |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Well SilverZ24, I have my hopes set on 10 WHp because it has been dyno proven that an SLP exhaust with 2.5" mandrel bends give a peak gain of 12 WHP. Id be dissappointed to see less than 10, though for a while there, ive been having some issues with my SES light and perhaps one of my breaks sticking. My rpms seem a little higher than they should be by about 2 to 300 rpms, im thinking my car could use a tune up.
12 whp from an exhaust.... umm ok |
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| the BLACK |
quote:
Originally posted by typesly
Thx for the responses guys (keep 'em coming!) :) . Some really nice numbers! (Especially on Anonymoose's 96 Neon!)
the BLACK - Nice! is that with a stage I kit?
^ Nope. stock. although, i actually DO have a K&N air filter, but made more tourqe before the filter, go figure. i lost tourqe, but gained 3-4 HP. Stage II #'s will be insane!!!:loco: (well, insane for a car that's supposedly "just a piece of shit neon"):fingersx: |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| I guess we will have to find out then Jeff. Im betting between 160 and 165 WHP from my CAI and exhaust. Stock mine runs at between 145 and 149 WHP. We shall soon see. |
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| SplineZ |
Neo-Blue.. you cant go on what others have gotten on their cars.. You cant just add a bunch of mods, and hten add exhaust and hope to get like 10HP cuz others did.. some mods take away from ohters, some boost others, etc..
Take for instance the 2 S2k's.. quite a bit of difference between the 2..
as for mexx.. Just because its a 4cyl doesnt mean its torqueless.. Honda and toyota choose to make their engines to make power when revv'd. Chevrolet on the other hand makes the low end torquier... Ive seen 4cyl desiels make HUGE HUGE torque figures..
Edit: I havent dyno'd yet.. This summer tho :) (horray for 15yr old engines)
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Hehe I know there SplineZ. I know its impossible to just add numbers and such and hope for the best. The thing is im starts as clsoe to stock as possible with only a CAI. We all know that a CAI helps, but only somewhat. All it is better air flow with more dense air. But honestly, its been dyno proven from stock that a 2.5" cat back with mandrel bends run wiht a 12 WHP gain. Even a complete borla cat-back with 2.25" will net you almost that much. Im not dissagreeing with you and I know very much of what you are talking about ( especially with peak values compared to overall gains). Ive have just done a lot of research on my car and I know my stuff pretty well on it. |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Hehe I know there SplineZ. I know its impossible to just add numbers and such and hope for the best. The thing is im starts as clsoe to stock as possible with only a CAI. We all know that a CAI helps, but only somewhat. All it is better air flow with more dense air. But honestly, its been dyno proven from stock that a 2.5" cat back with mandrel bends run wiht a 12 WHP gain. Even a complete borla cat-back with 2.25" will net you almost that much. Im not dissagreeing with you and I know very much of what you are talking about ( especially with peak values compared to overall gains). Ive have just done a lot of research on my car and I know my stuff pretty well on it.
So you dynoed stock already?
and jsut cause it says it adds that and x people have gotten it befor doesnt mean anything. |
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| Nis240 |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Hehe I know there SplineZ. I know its impossible to just add numbers and such and hope for the best. The thing is im starts as clsoe to stock as possible with only a CAI. We all know that a CAI helps, but only somewhat. All it is better air flow with more dense air. But honestly, its been dyno proven from stock that a 2.5" cat back with mandrel bends run wiht a 12 WHP gain. Even a complete borla cat-back with 2.25" will net you almost that much. Im not dissagreeing with you and I know very much of what you are talking about ( especially with peak values compared to overall gains). Ive have just done a lot of research on my car and I know my stuff pretty well on it.
Is that all you ever talk about your CAI and Borla muffler. Move on to other SERIOUS performance modifications. |
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| Nis240 |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
Uh...I don't think Budpark allows for rolling starts...;) ;)
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=12655
I didnt see anyone mention anything about street racing. People cant even talk about lineing them up with saying "at the track of course". |
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| JeffZ28 |
quote:
Originally posted by Nis240
Is that all you ever talk about your CAI and Borla muffler. Move on to other SERIOUS performance modifications.
haha, no kidding.
its almost as bad as people that list spark plugs and wires as performance mods. |
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| edmrx7 |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
349 rwhp & 382 rwtq @ Apex Modified (Dynojet 248C) last year.
Nice numbers, is that the highest so far? |
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| TheWask |
quote:
Originally posted by Nis240
Is that all you ever talk about your CAI and Borla muffler. Move on to other SERIOUS performance modifications.
Why don't you give him some money to get started? Not everyone person here has a lot of money or is supported by thier parents. Some people can't afford to do major upgrades. Why hate just because someone is excited about having a few mods done? |
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| Flex |
I would like to have my car dyno'd.......someone near edmonton buy an AWD dyno!!!!!!!.........:)
with comparing my car to others with the same mods that have been dyno'd it should be putting out around the 200whp/wtq mark. |
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| Drifted |
my corolla did 85 rwh . 80 lbft. pre turbo
my friends spirit i upped the boost on a little makes 160 lbft and 158 hp . another car i have been playing with a pt turbo we have at 240 lbft and 200 hp |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by Drifted
my corolla did 85 rwh . 80 lbft. pre turbo
So what is it putting down now though???
I'm seriously tempted to have you build me a system later this year if I manage to save enough cash after buying the Skyline.:bthumbup: |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| I should hopefully be making 200+ rwhp:fingersx: :bthumbup: Just can't wait to find a lil more money for the bigger turbo and intercooler:bowdown: then ill be at around 300WHP:bowdown: :bowdown: |
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| SplineZ |
that stand for wankler horse power? ;) j/k!
James Z
quote:
Originally posted by WookeysRX7
then ill be at around 300WHP
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| g356gear sedan |
2003 g35 sedan 6spd
242 rwhp 225 ft lbs
Mods....a few;) |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by g356gear sedan
2003 g35 sedan 6spd
242 rwhp 225 ft lbs
Not too shabby! Similar numbers to a stock 300ZXTT.
:bthumbup:
P.S. Did you recover your rims yet? |
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| bigmack000 |
quote:
Originally posted by SplineZ
that stand for wankler horse power? ;) j/k!
James Z
you snuffing the rotor. we will gang up on you and beat you up lol :P :cool:. |
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| scooby_dooby |
Here's what I got from a INtake and Header on the Teg.
Neo Blue, why do you sound like you live or die by peak HP? peak number is just one point along your powerband, and it only lasts for a second, more important is the overall torque gains throughout the rpm range that you are building your engine towards.
Everyone's tryin to tell yuo the real life is different then what yto read on the internet, until you've actually done it yourself firsthand you should never be SO sure. Maybe it will give you 12whp from an exhaust, probably it won't, but I'd wait and see if i were you, don't assume. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
Well the honest truth is, I always talk about my exhaust because it costs a significant amount and its what ive been wishing for for many many months. I honestly dont really see how many people can afford their cars, including repairs and insurance and yet be able to mod their cars heavily. (remember, I pay over 6 grand a year in insurance ) The only thing I can come up with is that these people have actual full time jobs. Its kinda hard for me to compete becasue im a student making 7 bucks an hour at blockbuster. Really, what can you expect from a guy who has to pay for all that and still remaind debt free? I am sorry for bringing it up all the time and honestly, I can understand where your coming from, its just im so excited to finally get this baby put together. So sorry for being so annoying.
As for max power vs overall power. Actually, Im trying to keep as wide as a band as possible. The thing is, this exhaust was meant to increase my high end power. My car definatly has enough pull off the line, but it dies out because its max hp is at only 4800 rpms with a redline at 6000 rpms. That is a very big issue because it means im constantly losing time on my high end to imports which have more high-rev hp. What ive been trying to do is increase my high end to match my low end power. My actual power throughout the curve is very good with great low and middle end power, but weak high-end. |
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| scooby_dooby |
man, no-one expects a student to be able to spend a ton of money on a car. the only people who can do that are rich kids with parents who pay their way for them.
If you pay for your own school, then your a broke student, like most of em, like i was.
now I work full time and can afford 1200-1500 in mods every month, it'll come eventually, just do what you can, ja know? |
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| scooby_dooby |
man, no-one expects a student to be able to spend a ton of money on a car. the only people who can do that are rich kids with parents who pay their way for them.
If you pay for your own school, then your a broke student, like most of em, like i was.
now I work full time and can afford 1200-1500 in mods every month, it'll come eventually, just do what you can, ja know? |
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| chris@apex |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
The fact that it's a 4 cylinder has nothing to do with it. The fact that it has a much larger bore than stroke has everything to do with it.
Not really, The fact that its got large valume runners on the intake, longer duration and lift on the cam. its all about volicity.Also Honda has a reputaion for building toqureless wonders, nice hp no tq. |
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| g356gear sedan |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Not too shabby! Similar numbers to a stock 300ZXTT.
:bthumbup:
P.S. Did you recover your rims yet?
No rims yet. I am sure they will show up though. Just a matter of time. Spring is here. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
So very true scooby. Its funny, because my friend made an interesting statement at the NAIT show and shine, he said
"its a place to see which kids parents are the richest".
Unfortunatly, I had to agree. Hell I know I didnt pay for my whole car. In fact, I only payed a fraction of the cost of it ( grand totally was 12, 500, I only payed 2500 ). Its true, if I didnt have this car, I would be driving something like an older z24 cavy or a 5.0L stang without any sound mods. Im curious though, how much have each one of you spent on your car? im talking in terms of things like mods, insurance, gas, and repairs and even the price you paid for the car. Its funny to see how much ive blown on those things. For just a quick tally, I know ive spent over 13 grand, on my car for various things. Wow.. that sure does add up. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by g356gear sedan
No rims yet. I am sure they will show up though. Just a matter of time. Spring is here.
Just remember that I already had a set, so when you see my ride, it wasn't me! :cool: |
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| 98 teg |
neo ga its not about competing to see whose got the nicest ride but more so about how much of you own sweat and tears that went into doing your ride up, to me paying for the car and the mods on my own is more rewarding that just getting the car and doing the mods, so inthe mean time its about getting each piece one at a time and gradually building my ride up
soorry to slide off topic, hey mr 6 speed hopre your rims turn and maybe we can administer a 780 beating to the pricks who stole your rims
well I would dyno my car but the hp may be good but its a torque less wonder |
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| JustinL |
Here's my run from today at APEX. Adam was super helpful and friendly guy to work with. I highly recommend this place if you want to do any tuning. My crappy wastegate I think is the reason for the falling torque as my boost drops down to 13ish Psi by the redline. Pretty happy with my car, we lost a little peak torque, but widened out the band and gained a couple horsies by the end of the session. Final numbers were 259hp and 296ft#. My car probably weighs under 3000lbs by now.
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| CYA |
520 rwhp on 92 octane.
can't remember rw torque. |
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| the BLACK |
Just re-dyno'd for shit's and giggles, my new #'s now stand at this,... BONE STOCK, i might add,... (oops, K&N air filter)
236 HP
270 ft*lb TQ |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Impressive numbers Justin. You auto-x that beast right?:dunno: |
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| JustinL |
| First time out is on may 2nd for me with the PCA. I hope I can keep it under control and beat some 911s! :D |
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| v8blazer |
| 450 Horsepower and 480 Ft/Lbs. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| the porsche was in at 163 rwhp and 193 ft lbs of torque (rounded so there's no decimal) and still it could only do 17.0 on the track :dunno: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
First time out is on may 2nd for me with the PCA. I hope I can keep it under control and beat some 911s! :D
Mr. Rudolph (PCA Polar Region President '03) and even Barry Reisick (has a few turbo's) told me a 944 turbo will eat a 911 in the twisties and a 911 will out perfrom a 911 turbo on the track.. you'll be able to take any porsche up until the 3.4L was installed, no problem ;) unless they have a lot of brembo and elephant racing/billstein racing under their body.. then you're done :p |
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| JustinL |
| I've never autocrossed before, so if I can keep up with anything I'll be pretty happy. With an equally skilled driver, my 944 turbo S should be able to smoke any other stock porsche of its era. However... driver skill will not be equal and I'll be competing against cars of all eras both modified and stock. |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
My car goes on the dyno at apex on the 14th.
les see! |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
I guess we will have to find out then Jeff. Im betting between 160 and 165 WHP from my CAI and exhaust. Stock mine runs at between 145 and 149 WHP. We shall soon see.
i'm still waitin on the 20whp from exhaust and intake.....:dunno: |
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| Adam @ Apex |
| we had to reschedule him so no numbers yet;) |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| I dont think you can hit 20 WHP from a CAI and exhaust. Thats taking the extremes of the numbers which is not exactly accurate. More or less, id say between 15 - 18 hp. 13 days.. thats it, only 13 days away.. to find out..and I cant wait to see my torque band. Thats the big one for me to see on this dyno, how the torque band looks and to see how broad my hp curve is. Hopefully it will have a better high-end extended curve because thats what im expecting out of my mods, hence why I chose them that way. Oh, and id love to see your blazer there V8Blazer, 450 hp and 480 ft-lbs of torque is sweet. |
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| scooby_dooby |
| haha no worries bro, i was just bustin your balls :beer: |
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| MATRIX MOTORSPORTS |
Just wondering about the lean area between 2000 and 4000 rpm. Your A/F ratio seems to sit over 14:1 at one point which is fairly lean for a turbo car. Just wondering if you were planning to bump your fueling up at some point? Just an observation.
Karl
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
Here's my run from today at APEX. Adam was super helpful and friendly guy to work with. I highly recommend this place if you want to do any tuning. My crappy wastegate I think is the reason for the falling torque as my boost drops down to 13ish Psi by the redline. Pretty happy with my car, we lost a little peak torque, but widened out the band and gained a couple horsies by the end of the session. Final numbers were 259hp and 296ft#. My car probably weighs under 3000lbs by now.
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| MATRIX MOTORSPORTS |
:rolleyes: Guess I can mention that the Wagon made 172Whp and 123lb'ft of torque at Apex with the muffler! This was good for 13.88@97mph on street tires and 13.38@99 on slicks with no muffler. I'm looking for 12s all motor and 11s with the turbo! :bthumbup:
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| Praylewd powr |
quote:
Originally posted by MATRIX MOTORSPORTS
:rolleyes: Guess I can mention that the Wagon made 172Whp and 123lb'ft of torque at Apex with the muffler! This was good for 13.88@97mph on street tires and 13.38@99 on slicks with no muffler. I'm looking for 12s all motor and 11s with the turbo! :bthumbup:
Karl
Did I mention how scared I was Karl?????
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| stealth |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
So very true scooby. Its funny, because my friend made an interesting statement at the NAIT show and shine, he said
"its a place to see which kids parents are the richest".
Unfortunatly, I had to agree. Hell I know I didnt pay for my whole car. In fact, I only payed a fraction of the cost of it ( grand totally was 12, 500, I only payed 2500 ). Its true, if I didnt have this car, I would be driving something like an older z24 cavy or a 5.0L stang without any sound mods. Im curious though, how much have each one of you spent on your car? im talking in terms of things like mods, insurance, gas, and repairs and even the price you paid for the car. Its funny to see how much ive blown on those things. For just a quick tally, I know ive spent over 13 grand, on my car for various things. Wow.. that sure does add up.
Dont worry ur not the only one. im 16 and paid for everything i own, in terms of car related stuff.
insurance was paying 6500 a year but stayed for one month and got charged 550 bucks
now pay 4380
Car was about lets say 9500
rad 300
cv axle 220
spoiler 300
rims free(came witht the car)
lowering springs 160
deck 80
so about 15 grand... not including gas.
all my hard earned cash, i work at sobeys lol, but the key to having money in the first place is working in the summer, as that is the only time i can work more than 3 days per week, due to school. |
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| Darkrid3r |
Can someone pm me the number and address for apex. I need a dino before my CAI goes in.
Dark |
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| JustinL |
quote:
Originally posted by MATRIX MOTORSPORTS
Just wondering about the lean area between 2000 and 4000 rpm. Your A/F ratio seems to sit over 14:1 at one point which is fairly lean for a turbo car. Just wondering if you were planning to bump your fueling up at some point? Just an observation.
Karl
The area up to about 3500 RPM is very low boost, so I was trying to keep it 14:1 to help spool the turbo a little quicker and this should also be fairly safe from detonation. Once boost starts to hit I wanted it to drop down to 12:1. The red was the first run and the blue was after some adjustments. The only area that I'm concerned with now is the slight leanness at 3500 and the richness at 3750. After I get better waste gate and a new intake pipe I'll redyno and fine tune again.
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