| 240sx |
I saw a skyline GT-r RHD parked in the Tire Warehouse parking lot on 10550 116 Street
sooo nice.
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by 240sx
I saw a skyline GT-r RHD parked in the Tire Warehouse parking lot on 10550 116 Street
sooo nice.
who's is it??
I wonder if the owner is ILLEGAL just like the car??
what colour was it? white of silver?
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by MightyMidget
I wonder if the owner is ILLEGAL just like the car??
???????
are you saying the owner is some kind of illegal immmigrant???
an illegal alien!??!
Call Immigration Canada!!! Deport his ass!!
affirmative action!!!
we're losing the country! these damn immigrants are taking all our jobs cuz we're not willing to do more work for less pay!!!! the lazy asses of this country are going to be a MINORITY SOON!!!
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| prelude_crazy |
| whoa settle down tiger... hes not illegal but his car sure as hell is. |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by prelude_crazy
whoa settle down tiger... hes not illegal but his car sure as hell is.
rowr! obviously the owner isn't illegal :p |
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| ChromeDragon |
Hahaha, oh Terry!:blue:
Yes the car is illegal, yes there is a good chance that customs is going to sieze all this guys illegal cars and chop them up, and no he will not receive any money for them. He may end up paying some fines, but no money in return for his illegal rides.
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| Insomniac |
| how do you know customs is coming for him? |
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| Wankel |
| Couple months till the R32's are LEGAL :D |
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| mx73someday |
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Originally posted by Wankel
Couple months till the R32's are LEGAL :D
22 Days until the R32 GTS-t's are legal :) Around 3-4 months until the R32 GT-Rs and GTS-4s are legal. |
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| prelude_crazy |
the minute the R32 GTS-T-Type-M
IS legal I'm buying one baby!, because I dont have enough money yet. but in a month or so baby! |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| the minute they are legal ...you wont have one picked out or purchased or shipped here yet ..... still a few more months before you will even see it if you start on it now |
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| bigmack000 |
i hate these damn things every one loves then thinks they are god. soon you will see them all over the place like your wild fire:blink: . i dont think the old ones are that cool but the new ones are sweet . not much of a skyline guy i guess:dunno: . i would rather have a 2002 spirt r rx7 :D then any skyline. hell i will give my rigth nut for a spirt R:bowdown:
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| MR240 |
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Yes the car is illegal, yes there is a good chance that customs is going to sieze all this guys illegal cars and chop them up
I was just thinking... I have a feeling that customs won't do anything to the guy..I mean they let him in already...If they seize his stuff word will get out to everyone that they were the dumb asses who let them into the country in the first place? They let them in, so its their fault if they made the mistake originally. I think someone should quote exactly what I just said right now everytime someone mentions customs chopping up cars.. |
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| MR240 |
| theres a reason why importing companies say they will locate a car for you in japan and get it into canada and clear customs.. once you are CLEARED i think you are clear. and the only place they would chop up a car is right there at the port. |
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| MightyMidget |
these guys are getting the cars in by lying to customs....falsely stating that they are 1988 cars......customs may not do anything about it BUT Transportation Canada may!!
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| MR240 |
i just think it would be extremely rare that anything would happen to an illegal car that is already on the road... but i guess we'll all see one day
i think these illegal importers are assuming that the worst that can happen if it happens at all is that they are forced to export their vehicle out of the country in which case they will get it sent to storage in japan....and these illegal importer people who ever they are...they are retards..why should an illegal car be expensiver than a legal one? hahaha fools... |
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| JeffZ28 |
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Originally posted by MR240
i just think it would be extremely rare that anything would happen to an illegal car that is already on the road... but i guess we'll all see one day
i think these illegal importers are assuming that the worst that can happen if it happens at all is that they are forced to export their vehicle out of the country in which case they will get it sent to storage in japan....and these illegal importer people who ever they are...they are retards..why should an illegal car be expensiver than a legal one? hahaha fools...
an illegal car on teh road means NO insurance, and NO registration, if he hit me, or hell even if I hit him I would sue the shit out of him.
Then can be brought into the country, but arent street legal, so truck and trailer it everywhere.
and what the hell is expensiver??? did you come over from japan in a salt soaked Sea can?
keep in mind they go by the date your particular car was made, not the very first one. jsut cause one is good today another might not be for 6 months or more. |
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| redbaron303 |
Good saying JeffZ28!
I'm with Jeff, one of these numb nutts mofo's hits me.... he'll never drive again. I'll make sure my lawyer has a field day with his driving career!
As for "since it's cleared it can be assumed that nothing will happen..." You've obviously never dealt with the Canadian gov't before have you? Just because they've done something doesn't mean they won't go back and do something else! There is a really good chance that either the importer will be heavily penalized or his vehicles will be seized from the current owners and crushed. I say crushed b/c the chances of getting them back INTO Japan are very very slim, once it's left Japan they don't want it back.
As a consumer you should know the trouble you can get into driving a car that has been brought in typically with forged papers.... Fraudulant activities aren't going to land you in the comfy chair at your insurance agents office....
As an importer, we all know the rules and the consequences for what happens if we fuck up.... to go out and do it intentionally you just have to be plain retarded! I feel no pitty for what these tools have coming to them. |
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| Insomniac |
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Originally posted by redbaron303
Good saying JeffZ28!
I'm with Jeff, one of these numb nutts mofo's hits me.... he'll never drive again. I'll make sure my lawyer has a field day with his driving career!
Your lawyer would not have the power to have any impact on his driving career. That is in the hands of the police and the judicial system, not some plaintiff lawyer.:rolleyes:
As for being in a collision with an illegal vehicle, assuming the Skyline driver was at fault, his insurance company may pay for damages to other parties, but I'm sure would not pay for insurance for their own vehicle. |
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| bigmack000 |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
Your lawyer would not have the power to have any impact on his driving career. That is in the hands of the police and the judicial system, not some plaintiff lawyer.:rolleyes:
As for being in a collision with an illegal vehicle, assuming the Skyline driver was at fault, his insurance company may pay for damages to other parties, but I'm sure would not pay for insurance for their own vehicle.
if he sued for alot i dont think the guy would ever drive again.
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| redbaron303 |
You don't think sueing someone for tons of cash could directly affect their driving.... then with solid evidence that certain cars are here illegally and passing that on to his insurance company he would continue to drive with a bad record?
If you're charged with insurance fraud, if your car is being investigated by certain authorities and is deamed illegal I think that would have some pull as to whether you get behind the wheel, and as Joel said if you get sued for LOTS that could weigh in itself ya know?
Honestly, I just can't think of too many insurance companies/agents that will reinsure an individual being charged with insurance fraud on top of an "at fault accident" in an illegal car?! Hell my insurance company would tell me to take a hike if I get another speeding ticket let alone the ownus of what I just said could happen.
I guess the biggest thing an owner of one of these rides doesn't want is attention or accidents/investigations... too much bad can come from it for their own good.
If you don't believe me, call around to some insurance companies and try to get insurance after telling thme you've been charged w/ insurance fraud? Or try telling them that a vehicle you owned caused you to become involved in illegal activities.
Really, I don't want to blow this out of proportion (as many of you think I'm doing) but there is still reality and reality will need to be faced one day and now you all know what can happen you make the choice of buying something like this.
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| Insomniac |
All i was saying was that your lawyer would not be able to have a "field day with his driving career"
Read before you speak, think before you type, etc. etc. |
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| JeffZ28 |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
Your lawyer would not have the power to have any impact on his driving career. That is in the hands of the police and the judicial system, not some plaintiff lawyer.:rolleyes:
As for being in a collision with an illegal vehicle, assuming the Skyline driver was at fault, his insurance company may pay for damages to other parties, but I'm sure would not pay for insurance for their own vehicle.
Regardless I could sue him PERSONALLY as well as his insurance, this would easily result in a sum that could take MANY years to repay in the way of garnished wages.
So odds are he wouldnt be able to afford a car for a very long time, and at that time he's going ot be hard pressed to find someone to insurance them.
That said even if I HIT HIM, ie I rearended him or something, I would STILL SUE HIM, and win.
why, cause if it wasnt for his illegal car in MY WAY, I wouldnt have hit anything.
but still the old skylines are ugly as sin, and the ability to impoort is based off the month of manufacturing of each car, not the body style. |
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| Insomniac |
thank you for you're insight into bodily injury and insurance law
it is all so clear... are you a lawyer??? |
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| JeffZ28 |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
thank you for you're insight into bodily injury and insurance law
it is all so clear... are you a lawyer???
NO, talked to one heavily over my case from the end of december when I was hit.
I also understant that I would be held at fault by the police and probably the insurance if I claimed if I ran into the back of an illegal car.
But I could still sue him, and I would still win. |
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| JustinL |
Jeff, I'm not sure what exactly you would sue him for in your scenario. Having said that I understand that you can sue anyone for anything, but you might not win. If you rear ended him, odds are you are 100% at fault. There are no grounds to claim negligence on his behalf, nor are you able to sue for fraud if it wasn't you who was defrauded. I just don't see it hapenning. Now I read your earlier post about his car being in your way, but because a car doesn't have valid registration or insurance doesn't make it open season in the eyes of the law to smash it.
Normally I let this type of thread go, but this is starting to sound very American. I have long been proud to live in Canada where we aren't as fanatically litigious as the U.S. where everyone sues everyone else for anything they can to get rich. (How's that for playing the patriot card!)
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| JeffZ28 |
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Originally posted by JustinL
Jeff, I'm not sure what exactly you would sue him for in your scenario. Having said that I understand that you can sue anyone for anything, but you might not win. If you rear ended him, odds are you are 100% at fault. There are no grounds to claim negligence on his behalf, nor are you able to sue for fraud if it wasn't you who was defrauded. I just don't see it hapenning. Now I read your earlier post about his car being in your way, but because a car doesn't have valid registration or insurance doesn't make it open season in the eyes of the law to smash it.
Normally I let this type of thread go, but this is starting to sound very American. I have long been proud to live in Canada where we aren't as fanatically litigious as the U.S. where everyone sues everyone else for anything they can to get rich. (How's that for playing the patriot card!)
Justin
hmmI cant remember now, I dont have my book with me so I'll have to go and read some of it again.
Got me thinking that maybe I have something completely different in mind. |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
I would steal the car to teach the guy a lesson :p
J/K Verboten |
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| MR240 |
i'm just waiting for the swat team to surround someone and seize his car and crush it...i hope someone is there to video tape it too
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| I just dont want to take the chance of driving an illegal car and get into any kind of accident or traffic offense ...it is always something to worry about ....suddenly having no coverage and your insurance company charging you with insurance fraud and having to pay everything out of your pocket ....small or large ...it is just not worth it that way ....so what if i buy an illegal 1988 skylien and they take it and destroy it ...that would be the LEAST they could |
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| redbaron303 |
| mr240, interesting choice of photo.... but I think a light bar on a car w/ ttops wouldn't work too well..... :lol: |
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| MR240 |
| :lol: t-tops...with a light bar... :lol: :lol: :lol: i mean T TOPS WITH A LIGHT BAR :lol: my side is hurting |
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| redbaron303 |
| from now on we'll call it quick release roof ;) |
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| tybot2099 |
I don't know why Steve is so pissed, maybe it's the fact that he has tried to get the cars and couldn't boo-hoo. All legal documentation for the cars, signed by a Japanese politician, which was accepted by the Canadian Customs is accounted for each and every car. If there is anyone interested in purchasing one of the cars, this will be the only batch imported. The list of cars is as follows:
1)GTS-t Coupe
2)GTS-t Coupe
3)GTS-t Sedan
4)Nissan 180SX Coupe
5)300ZX Fairlady
6)GTR Coupe
7)GTR Coupe Silver @ Tire Warehouse is sold to Faulken America
All vehicles, again, have approved Canadian Customs legal importation documents and can be registered with ease at any Alberta or Canadian registries. If you would like pictures or information, please message me. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by tybot2099
I don't know why Steve is so pissed, maybe it's the fact that he has tried to get the cars and couldn't boo-hoo. All legal documentation for the cars, signed by a Japanese politician, which was accepted by the Canadian Customs is accounted for each and every car. If there is anyone interested in purchasing one of the cars, this will be the only batch imported. The list of cars is as follows:
1)GTS-t Coupe
2)GTS-t Coupe
3)GTS-t Sedan
4)Nissan 180SX Coupe
5)300ZX Fairlady
6)GTR Coupe
7)GTR Coupe Silver @ Tire Warehouse is sold to Faulken America
All vehicles, again, have approved Canadian Customs legal importation documents and can be registered with ease at any Alberta or Canadian registries. If you would like pictures or information, please message me.
bwahahhaa funniest SHIT I have evAr heard!!!!!!
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by tybot2099
I don't know why Steve is so pissed, maybe it's the fact that he has tried to get the cars and couldn't boo-hoo. All legal documentation for the cars, signed by a Japanese politician, which was accepted by the Canadian Customs is accounted for each and every car. If there is anyone interested in purchasing one of the cars, this will be the only batch imported. The list of cars is as follows:
1)GTS-t Coupe
2)GTS-t Coupe
3)GTS-t Sedan
4)Nissan 180SX Coupe
5)300ZX Fairlady
6)GTR Coupe
7)GTR Coupe Silver @ Tire Warehouse is sold to Faulken America
All vehicles, again, have approved Canadian Customs legal importation documents and can be registered with ease at any Alberta or Canadian registries. If you would like pictures or information, please message me.
Just because some uninformed customs agent signed the car in doesn't mean it's legal. :rolleyes: |
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| DeathBy240 |
| What the fuck is a 180SX coupe?!?! |
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| mx73someday |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
What the fuck is a 180SX coupe?!?!
It's just like the GTS-t twin turbo he had for sale in the Edmonton Journal last fall. The guy doesn't know shit about the cars he brought in. Ask him how many turbos the car has and he won't know. "I only know about bikes"
tybot2099, you have been fooled by that guy. His version of how these cars are legal is going to be a version that protects his sale, he doesn't give a shit about what happens after the cars are sold, why else is he "dumping" them.
He phoned me once to tell me that his R32 GTS-t was legal because it was rebuilt on a R31 chassis that was 15 years old. Unibody cars are not like bikes, you can't just change bodies and drivetrains onto other cars. He also told me the car was manufactured in Oct 1988, and there were pictures taken of the car at an event in Edmonton in Aug-Sept 2003. Turns out, the car was actually manufactured in Oct 1989. Criminals are liars too. |
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| redbaron303 |
Some people will never understand certain things. I guess it takes more than the IQ of a rock to understand that customs can come back and fuck you around if you're stupid enough to bring cars in illegally on forged papers "signed by Japanese politicians" and "approved by a customs agent on your payroll."
:lol: It'll be funny when reality hits. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| I ...personally think everything that goes on lately is hilarious ....the more I hear the more I smile |
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| DeathBy240 |
| Is this guy talking about the guy from Sherwood Park with the purple R32 and the white 180? |
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| redbaron303 |
Purple R32?~!
I thought it was kinda blue.... |
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| DeathBy240 |
| I dunno, looked kinda purple yesterday when i saw it.... |
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| tybot2099 |
| What happened to the pics of the "so-called illegal" cars? And how come Import Concern's contact personnel are changing their phone numbers? |
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| mx73someday |
| Because our landline will be installed within the next week. Don't worry, you can threaten legal action again when we post the new number. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by mx73someday
Because our landline will be installed within the next week. Don't worry, you can threaten legal action again when we post the new number.
hahahaa you asses got :owned:
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| Nis240 |
| i went and saw the Silver GTR from silver stone today and all i can say is WOW. i got to sit in it and everything, i almost shed a tear from my eye. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by Nis240
i went and saw the Silver GTR from silver stone today and all i can say is WOW. i got to sit in it and everything, i almost shed a tear from my eye.
COOL....did you just ask the guy? oh and BTW as far as I know that gun metal GTR was brought in my someone else.
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| tybot2099 |
I appologize for all the things I have wrote that has caused ill-feeling among members. My intention was not to belittle other importers and car lovers. I know that I did get carried away and went over my original intention, and for this I am sorry. Good luck to everyone in the future and happy driving.
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| Nis240 |
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Originally posted by MightyMidget
COOL....did you just ask the guy? oh and BTW as far as I know that gun metal GTR was brought in my someone else.
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| Skillz |
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Originally posted by JeffZ28
but still the old skylines are ugly as sin, and the ability to impoort is based off the month of manufacturing of each car, not the body style.
R32's handle a lot better than R33/34's, and weigh about 300 lbs less. They have the same power, less ECU crap to work around, have cheaper parts available, are easier to tune, and are cheap as hell (as opposed to other skylines).
I also happen to think they look way better than the R33's (which look like a lot like S14's, but with bigger noses), and are up there with R34's on style.
Two questions though:
As far as JDM cars becoming legal in Canada. what is the time period associated with that? Is it like 15 years?
And how are the the prices compared to, say, the car as it was sold in Japan. Im sure the importers will throw on a percentage, but will they still be affordable? Im only asing because buying one in Canada and driving it home to use as a track/show car seems like a better deal then buying one, importing it, dealing with US customs, and driving it home after that. |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by Skillz
R32's handle a lot better than R33/34's, and weigh about 300 lbs less. They have the same power, less ECU crap to work around, have cheaper parts available, are easier to tune, and are cheap as hell (as opposed to other skylines).
I also happen to think they look way better than the R33's (which look like a lot like S14's, but with bigger noses), and are up there with R34's on style.
Two questions though:
As far as JDM cars becoming legal in Canada. what is the time period associated with that? Is it like 15 years?
And how are the the prices compared to, say, the car as it was sold in Japan. Im sure the importers will throw on a percentage, but will they still be affordable? Im only asing because buying one in Canada and driving it home to use as a track/show car seems like a better deal then buying one, importing it, dealing with US customs, and driving it home after that.
Talk to the guys at Import Concern, they are currently looking into bringing R32s into Canada to ship them down to the states as off-road vehicles(racing and show only). Looking at the crazy prices you would have to pay to buy a car down in the states it's an extremely viable option. Starting at about $12k U.S. you would be able to bring a half decent GT-R into the states.
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| Skillz |
| Sweet man, thanks for the info. |
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| Wankel |
| I just laugh at this skyline drama, and how everyone who wants one wants one so they can be a pimp of a road... and because its JDM...:dunno: I especially like how people who claim they can import them act like they are far superior... if anyone wants anything RHD that is actually legal, and shit let me know, and ill get Lon Hall the world car link's phone number for you. Great guy to deal with. But anyways, you guys make me laugh:lol: Now onto a more promissing topic... Who wants to have a southern alberta Rx-7 meet? |
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| JamesDeane |
| how much is the R32 gonna cost when it gets legalized? |
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| 1mns13 |
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Originally posted by Wankel
Now onto a more promissing topic... Who wants to have a southern alberta Rx-7 meet?
Try the RX7 club or maybe beyond.ca. And remember Lon doesn't live in canada, so his help is limited compared to importers living in this province. |
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| redbaron303 |
I think most people here know us and Lon when it comes to this stuff..... He's a good guy.
RX7 meet eh.... I'd try the rx7 club for that....
we could at least get a Nissan meet going in a thread about nissans?! :lol: |
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