| ehos |
Americans suck.
There you go I said it. Fuck all you racist, arrogant bastards. I don't care if your president Bush isn't acting on your behalf.
YOU SUCK. Get the f3uk outta here with 'terrorism', 'liberation', and all your bs rhetoric.
f3uk your 'rule of law' and how you break it whenever you feel like it (the list is waaay to long to put here, but just recently it's Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanmo, UN).
f3uk your burocracy, and your Senate hearings, your president.
f3uk your media and your supression and interpertation of the 'news' and how only 9 people control 98% of the media. Way to go Big Macs, Coke and all the other corps! Woot!
Sorry for the rant, but I feel sick (again) whenver I hear anything about the GREAT USA. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
Whos being arrogant now?
Not everyone there is like that, i lived there for 6 months a few years back, and just because what YOU SEE ON TV doesnt mean you should judge a whole nation of people
Arnt you also being rascict now too?!
Way to hop on the bandwagon :bthumbup: :asshole:
--ThE EdGe |
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| 2003specv |
Gimme a fuckin break! Do you think the Iraqis would treat an American soldier any better? Fuck em. They're obviously detained for some reason.
Lets all cry for the poor Iraqi who was humiliated in prison, what is the world coming to?
I'll start worrying when Americans start hanging chared enemy corpses from bridges and then chanting and dancing.
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| ehos |
You're forgetting a few things.
1) Illegal war.
2) Breaking the rule of law.
3) Genova conventions.
4) If the US are 'liberators', aren't they supposed to be better than the Saddam? In fact they're the same.
5) What crimes did they commit? They were invaded? For what? WMD? Where are they now?
It's the same US MO for the past 50 years. They falsify a reason to invade, and they go ahead. Read some history, you'll be sickened.
120 Countries with US military presence, out of 189 that the UN recognizes as sitting countries. Fun huh? |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by TheNeonEdge
Whos being arrogant now?
Not everyone there is like that, i lived there for 6 months a few years back, and just because what YOU SEE ON TV doesnt mean you should judge a whole nation of people
Arnt you also being rascict now too?!
Way to hop on the bandwagon :bthumbup: :asshole:
--ThE EdGe
I hate the US government. It seems to act on it's own regardless of what the citizens want. I don't have a problem with the people themselves.
And it's not just TV, I think I can read too. You should try it.
And living there 6 whole months! Wow! Want a cookie? So, what are you doing here? |
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| arabian_ryda |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
I'll start worrying when Americans start hanging chared enemy corpses from bridges and then chanting and dancing.
:drama:
i have a video of an american soldier shotting a iraqi citizen for no reson and u can hear them in the back ground cheering and laughing so save me your bullshit if i knew how to upload a video i would post it up. |
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| stealth |
quote:
Originally posted by arabian_ryda
i have a video of an american soldier shotting a iraqi citizen for no reson and u can hear them in the back ground cheering and laughing so save me your bullshit if i knew how to upload a video i would post it up.
ditto i also have that video and others. |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Gimme a fuckin break! Do you think the Iraqis would treat an American soldier any better? Fuck em. They're obviously detained for some reason.
Lets all cry for the poor Iraqi who was humiliated in prison, what is the world coming to?
I'll start worrying when Americans start hanging chared enemy corpses from bridges and then chanting and dancing.
:drama:
So you belive in torture, greeeaaat! What a great human being you are.
Rights for some, but not for others. |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by arabian_ryda
i have a video of an american soldier shotting a iraqi citizen for no reson and u can hear them in the back ground cheering and laughing so save me your bullshit if i knew how to upload a video i would post it up.
Let's see a link. I don't doubt you, I just wanna see.
You think Iraqi soldiers are any better? I've seen vids of Iraqi soldiers doing the same as what you described.
Anyway, those are soldiers. Let's see average Joe America mutilate bodies, and party like it's 1999.
Why is it any worse that the American soldiers treat their prisoners like this? Because they are supposed to be the good guys? I'm sure Iraqi soldiers think they are the good guys too.
I look at it this way, if you were sent to a foreign country to fight some fucked up stupid war, and your friends were being blown up by car bombs and ambushed by cowards wearing civilian clothes, wouldn't you be a little trigger happy? You'd sit there every night scared as hell and alone wondering when you're going to die. As fucked up as it is, wouldn't it feel good to humiliate a prisoner or two?(not to say it's right)
Also, why are 250+ million people "racist, arrogant bastards" because of the actions of a few? |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
I hate the US government. It seems to act on it's own regardless of what the citizens want. I don't have a problem with the people themselves.
Just like the Canadian government.
By the way, what did Big Macs, and Coke have to do with it?
Also, lets not let this turn into a flame fest and personal attacks. How about a civil conversation? |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Also, why are 250+ million people "racist, arrogant bastards" because of the actions of a few? [/B]
America has a history of racism. Read this, it's really good.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...-name_page.html
And there's a huge rift between American people (who I mostly like), and their government (which I despise). |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Just like the Canadian government.
By the way, what did Big Macs, and Coke have to do with it?
Also, lets not let this turn into a flame fest and personal attacks. How about a civil conversation?
Globalization.
That's what it's all about. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
What's reading?
Yes, chocolate chip please! :blink:
I live here, what are you doing?!
--ThE EdGe
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
I hate the US government. It seems to act on it's own regardless of what the citizens want. I don't have a problem with the people themselves.
And it's not just TV, I think I can read too. You should try it.
And living there 6 whole months! Wow! Want a cookie? So, what are you doing here?
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| penance |
Its all just a ploy to get (or keep, depending how u look at it) america back in front of the spotlight. Although with their president its sorta hard to fall outta it :lol:
The woman on the front page of the journal just looks like the poster child for imbreeding :lol: :lol:
But seriously, i don' t know the whole story. Seeing as its a prison, the iraqi musta done something wrong? So i don't feel sorry for him.
It's things like this that really aren't endearing america to the world.
The only way i could see myself in one of those americans positions was if me or someone from my group caught him attempting to disrupt the saftey of my team.... Difference is, the pics wouldn't be of me pointing at this guy naked, but more just using my gun as a bat... |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by penance But seriously, i don' t know the whole story. Seeing as its a prison, the iraqi musta done something wrong? So i don't feel sorry for him.
[/B]
Uh huh.
Because the Iraqi's
1) Chose to be invaded (WMD, lol).
2) They were granted Habeus corpus
3) They had trials
4) They were judged etc.
ALL BS! Most of those 10,000 'prisioners' were stopped at checkstops, walking around, in their houses or just 'hanging' out. They're prisioners only because the US can put anyone under arrest for any reason.
Sounds fun huh? |
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| TheNeonEdge |
So i guess you know all this from your very good unbiased sources hmm? :rolleyes:
--ThE EdGe |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by TheNeonEdge
So i guess you know all this from your very good unbiased sources hmm? :rolleyes:
--ThE EdGe
And you were there right?
The senate hearings were live yesterday morning. It's a matter of public record.
The US invaded Iraq using illegal means (breaking UN resolutions, and Veto). AND they broke their own constitutional laws by breaking the rule of law.
Hypocracy. It's not the first time the US has done this. This is the MO.
Always has been, always will be.
http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa02.html |
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| penance |
the u.s never does anything constitutional......... they're cowboys. they run in shooting and ask questions after everyone's dead and everythings destroyed
everyone thinks its gonna be one of the middle east countries, or north korea, ect that will start up something like nuclear war. But DUHH!!! americans do what they can (including falsifying evidence) to give them means and authorization to get their way. its just a matter of time before they decide that fixing a problem means going Hiroshima on some country 10fold. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
The UN is a joke to begin with, i don't even want to get started on it, the U.S. practically runs the UN, its jsut a cover to the rest of the world to say "yes all these countries have to agree on everything for stuff to happen"
Beeeep wrong. The U.S. does do a lot of stuff without the approval of the people and whatnot, but i mean if someone doesn't step up and take charge in the world, and know that if you harbor terrorists + have a totalitarianism governemtn you will get stepped on.
Altho i do know that they also wanted some oil too. But what do you think is paying for this war anyways?
--ThE EdGe |
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| dogstar |
blah, go beat off or something...
the united states is evil... you sound like an iraqi yourself.
the united states felt it was justified when it invaded, and you know what, so do i.
saddam has WDMs.... the US should know, they gave them to him.
now, like a bad child, hes been misbehaving, and theyre going to go take away his toys. |
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| FocusTunerzx3 |
| US is just a bunch of Hypocritical cowboys who get bored easily...the end. |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by dogstar
blah, go beat off or something...
the united states is evil... you sound like an iraqi yourself.
the united states felt it was justified when it invaded, and you know what, so do i.
saddam has WDMs.... the US should know, they gave them to him.
now, like a bad child, hes been misbehaving, and theyre going to go take away his toys.
So where are the WMD now?
And why is US not doing anything about Korea? They have the ultimate WMD.
Hypocracy.
It's not the first or last time either. Read a book. |
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| dogstar |
i read lots of books...but i suggest you lay off the tom clancy books, your getting americanitis.
where are the WMDs?
hidden in the sand?
take a look at this page and you tell me...
its a big fuckin desert, and you seem to have lots of time, go digging
why is the US not doing anything about Korea?
well, lets see, afghanistan... iraq... hmm, theres two reasons right there.
and im sure warmonger bush has korea on his little list someplace, but you have to look at the numbers.
iraq and afghanistan are small countries, with spread out populations and small, underfunded, underequipped militaries.
N.Korea is a large, densely populated country with a huge military that is well funded and well equipped, with some of the best weapons that the USSR has been able to produce.
plus they have nukes, and are quite free with their threats to use them.
bush maybe an idiot, and he may like starting wars, but that doesnt mean he wants to start a nuclear conflict.
answer me this...
the US and USSR HATED each other... why didnt they fight? |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
quote:
Originally posted by dogstar
answer me this...
the US and USSR HATED each other... why didnt they fight?
....Mutually Assured Destruction from tactical nuclear strikes if one was one the ropes from conventional warfare....
So they used proxy wars instead....
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| Skillz |
It seems every Canadian forum I go on has a few rabid Kanadeans on it flaming the US and Americans in general. I am an American, and fuckin proud of it. I wouldnt have it any other way. I am also a Soldier, and Im proud of that too. Did any of yall go to the Middle East to fight a war? Did anyone have to stay an extra year because of a new thing called Stop Movement (where in a time of war the Pres. can make all movement orders and seperation orders null and void, meaning you cant get out of the military when you are due and you cant leave where you are stationed, even Iraq)?
NO!!!!!
So what you THINK goes on there and what ACTUALLY happens is very different. I could give 2 shits how Iraqis are treated in jail. As long as they arent beaten, then thats fine. Im more pissed that those inconsiderate American soldiers gave all you fuckin Kanadeans a reason to hate us some more.
If you dont like us, attack the US!! Whats that? Youll get fuckinh destroyed?? Oh, I forgot.
If Canada didnt share the 49th parallel with a superpower, life would be a lot worse in your country. |
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| Snowcrash |
According to the Stanford prison experiment, what happened in the Iraqi prison should have been foreseen. Ultimitly lack of disipline is to blame. Disipline from the warden and the higher ups in the prison sentry ranks. Without the disipline, behavior of the gaurds persists and becomes more cruel. It's not a few bad apples but it is human nature. That said I don't see how the nationality of the people involved matters because the situation would go down the same way no matter who is involved.
For those of you who don't know what the Stanford prison experiment was: Basically a Proff set up a prison and half the students were to be prisoners and the other half to be gaurds. The experiment was suppose to last two weeks but was stopped after 6 days! The experiment was stopped because the gaurds started torturing and sexually assulting the prisoners. Google the Stanford prison experiment for more info.
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| penance |
Dude if it bothers you that much, stay outta canadien forums.
If you could read other languages and went on other nations forums.... what makes you think it would be any different??
Theres plenty of country's that have problems, including ours. Sure personally i hate your pres..... but hey, chrietien was one hell of a retard too. :lol:
Everyone has the freedom to speak their mind, nobodies forcing anyone to listen to them.
Yes some ppl go out over the top. But who gives a fuck?! If you don't like it, turn off your computer and go outside :dunno: |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
There's an interesting piece on the post-9/11 security/liberty ideological clash in the Edmonton Journal's Sunday Reader today. I thought it raised some good points, for both sides of the ideological debate.
Verboten |
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| Mekanik22 |
| I still don't get why their even in Iraq. It's making gas prices go up, isn't it? |
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| mwdguy |
quote:
Originally posted by Mekanik22
I still don't get why their even in Iraq. It's making gas prices go up, isn't it?
LMAO fuck you are funny. Couldnt have anything to do with crude oil being almost 40 bucks a barrel. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
quote:
Originally posted by Skillz
It seems every Canadian forum I go on has a few rabid Kanadeans on it flaming the US and Americans in general. I am an American, and fuckin proud of it. I wouldnt have it any other way. I am also a Soldier, and Im proud of that too. Did any of yall go to the Middle East to fight a war? Did anyone have to stay an extra year because of a new thing called Stop Movement (where in a time of war the Pres. can make all movement orders and seperation orders null and void, meaning you cant get out of the military when you are due and you cant leave where you are stationed, even Iraq)?
NO!!!!!
So what you THINK goes on there and what ACTUALLY happens is very different. I could give 2 shits how Iraqis are treated in jail. As long as they arent beaten, then thats fine. Im more pissed that those inconsiderate American soldiers gave all you fuckin Kanadeans a reason to hate us some more.
If you dont like us, attack the US!! Whats that? Youll get fuckinh destroyed?? Oh, I forgot.
If Canada didnt share the 49th parallel with a superpower, life would be a lot worse in your country.
Dont worry, not all canadians think like ehos :S
But the reason we wouldnt start a war because
A. that would be stupid lots of canadians live in american and vise versa
B. if the US invaded canada, sorry, but you guys would be the ones getting pwn3d. not because of us or our army, but because of support from the rest of the world. And everyone would end up dying because of crazyness goin on everywhere
C. we all love eachother :)
D. we need your trade, you need our resources. We would only be hurting ourselves, as would America
E. it'll never happen because of all of the above, and it jsut wouldn't make sence. |
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| Lets Race |
Gentlemen your posts for both sides of the argument are well stated .Here's a somewhat related subject I came across that if true might be a reason for concern .
" Canadian legal system is ready to adopt Sharia law precepts for disputes between Canadian Muslims. " I only started looking into it this weekend ,I'm phoning the Feds today to see what they have to say .Maybe its nothing.
Opinions ? Observations ? |
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| Lets Race |
| There's been much discussion about America's activities thus far. The question is how should they have responded to the attack and murders of 9 / 11 ? |
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| Xpnsve |
There's an interesting story in the Journal today, A3
Seems this kind of abuse has been going on for awile, apperently U.S. Soldiers react badly to stress.
"When you have bombs going off around you alll the time, it causes people to do crazy things," said Spc. Tim Noble of Concord, Calif. "Some of the soldiers held off for a very long time before they had to engage the prisoners. Our company was really good at not using lethal force until they had to."
"You can see these guys messed up, masturbating 12 times a day or running up and down the halls naked, or whenthey're not eating, losing weight,"
I still think this was blown way out of proportion. These Iraqis are PRISONERS OF WAR.. it's not like these soldiers were torturing them or cutting off limbs or something... it was mostly humiliation.
Everyone needs to relax. America needs to train their soldiers a bit better, thats all. |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by Skillz
If you dont like us, attack the US!! Whats that? Youll get fuckinh destroyed?? Oh, I forgot.
Ummm.... that was a retarded comment. Go back to 90210tuners if you don't like it here. |
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| Skillz |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Ummm.... that was a retarded comment. Go back to 90210tuners if you don't like it here.
When did I say I dont like it here?
And 90210Tuners isnt a website yet. I think its up to you... |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Gimme a fuckin break! Do you think the Iraqis would treat an American soldier any better? Fuck em. They're obviously detained for some reason.
Lets all cry for the poor Iraqi who was humiliated in prison, what is the world coming to?
I'll start worrying when Americans start hanging chared enemy corpses from bridges and then chanting and dancing.
:drama:
You are a PHUKEN IDIOT!!!! Do you have any idea how many innocent Iraqi's were killed in this war due to the heavy handeness of the U.S.? Over 10,000 you numb nut http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
They are being occupied...OCCUPIED, do you have any idea what that means? They are an oppressed people that are SUPPOSE to be living a better life AFTER Saddam...Instead, the United Snakes of America have humilated them by showing there true colors using sadistic/primitive behaviour. How can you support this?
How is it that ignorant people like you exist that are so blindsided by one-sided media!?!?
Since this is a car forum...let me ask you something, if you had stolen something out of complete necessity, would you like to be dealt with in THIS manner?
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/dontloot.wmv
If ignorance is truely bliss...then you're the highest maphukar on this planet! |
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| Snowcrash |
To all the people who think "It's only humiliation, no big":
I'm sure a lot more has gone on that that, and for a lot longer than everyone thinks. I could of course be wrong, not having been in a prison in Iraq . Also for the record - humiliation is torture.
...and for the "like Iraqi soldiers would treat anyone better.":
yeah, maybe. they're animals. So lets follow their example?
...and the "fuck america":
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| Lets Race |
S2000_rider " then you're the highest ma ar on this planet"no seriously
what its a "ma ar" ? is that just a typo ? no disrespect ment .
forget this post I get it |
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| Lets Race |
Perhaps while the Americans are performing these acts on prisoners they should quote the Qur'an.
Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”
Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
Perhaps while the Americans are performing these acts on prisoners they should quote the Qur'an.
Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”
Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Perhaps ignorant people such as yourself should shut the phuck up and actually ask a Religous scholar to correctly interpret the Qu'ran instead of reading a straight translation which loses MUCH of the meaning!
Anything can be taken out of context...Take the KKK for example, they use the Bible to support there cause...So did Timothy Mcveigh and even Hitler to some extent.
Again, if you're really interested, go to Al-Rasheed or Markaaz mosque and speak to an Imam. PM and I'll take you myself...otherwise don't speak/quote of things you know absolutely NOTHING about!!!! |
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| Lets Race |
Why thankyou for your kind words
S2000_rider . If you read that post
carefully you'll see I took no position
on the matter .So in the spirit of free speach (which I'm sure you value as do I)
I felt the Qur'an should be allowed the
freedom to speak for its self.
And please forgive me for troubling
you on this S2000_rider but are you
saying that the KKK ,Timothy Mcveigh
and Hitler were misunderstood ?
Just trying to be clear on this .
Thanks |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
Why thankyou for your kind words
S2000_rider . If you read that post
carefully you'll see I took no position
on the matter .So in the spirit of free speach (which I'm sure you value as do I)
I felt the Qur'an should be allowed the
freedom to speak for its self.
And please forgive me for troubling
you on this S2000_rider but are you
saying that the KKK ,Timothy Mcveigh
and Hitler were misunderstood ?
Just trying to be clear on this .
Thanks
LOL, since when did inanimate objects have the right of freedom speech?
Any moron can quote anything from anything book out of context. Doing so however, is the epitomy of ignorance. When it comes to Religion, one should really study and most importantly QUESTION issues that seem skeptical with a scholar instead of quoting a few translated verses in English. My invitation still stands...If you are seriously interested in discussing these quotes and getting an interpratation of these verses, PM me and I'll be glad to setup some time with an Imam...Otherwise, do not speak of which you know nothing about it. |
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| Skillz |
As someone that speaks Arabic, I wholeheartedly agree with S2000_rider. The Arabic language NEVER directly translates to English, even less then almost any other language.
Example:
Haraja is a verb in Arabic which means to be close to or near something or someone. The same word, with the same pronunciation, means to oppress, forbid, or be anguished.
It also doesnt help that the Quran wasnt written with diacritical marks, which could change the meaning of a word into the complete opposite. |
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| stealth |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
Perhaps while the Americans are performing these acts on prisoners they should quote the Qur'an.
Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”
Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Sorry Lets Race, but that is not a true translation or the meaning. One or many words or versus have different meanings. I or S2000_Rider would be willing to help educate anyone on the subject of Quran by making arrangements to speak to a Imam at the Al-Rashid Mosque. |
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| Lets Race |
"LOL, since when did inanimate objects have the right of freedom speech? "
Many of the other world religions conceder their holy writings to possess an underlying spiritual substance , so it was from that point which I referenced .Therefore according to your statement the Qur'an is nothing more than words. So I stand corrected , thanks for the information on that point.
On numerous occasions you've used words that seem to defame peoples character, so as a reprehensive of Islam would you says the apparent name calling is a way of recruiting
coverts to the way of Allah?
As far as PM ing you well I feel that any religion worth its weight can stand up to examination in a public form.
Lastly I'd still like to know if you feel KKK ,Timothy McVeigh and Hitler were misunderstood ?
Your friend
Lets Race |
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| Lets Race |
Thanks for that stealth. I merely
copied/pasted from the Qur'an online.
so the content of the verses wasn't
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
"LOL, since when did inanimate objects have the right of freedom speech? "
Many of the other world religions conceder their holy writings to possess an underlying spiritual substance , so it was from that point which I referenced .Therefore according to your statement the Qur'an is nothing more than words. So I stand corrected , thanks for the information on that point.
On numerous occasions you've used words that seem to defame peoples character, so as a reprehensive of Islam would you says the apparent name calling is a way of recruiting
coverts to the way of Allah?
As far as PM ing you well I feel that any religion worth its weight can stand up to examination in a public form.
Lastly I'd still like to know if you feel KKK ,Timothy McVeigh and Hitler were misunderstood ?
Your friend
Lets Race
It is not my intention to defame anyone's character on this forum. If I have offended you then I do apologize. Again, it's an open invitation if ever you change your mind and decide to educate yourself and expand your Religous nowledge bank from a mere 5-6 poorly translated verses...
As far as your question is concerned. My point was anyone can use a Religous book whether it be the Qu'ran/Bible/Torah etc and read verses out of context to support there cause. Are they misunderstood? I think you meant did they misunderstand the readings of Bible and hijack Christianity for there own twisted personal gain then the answer to that yes!
Here is an excellent...EXCELLENT source I hope you have the time to visit. Hopefully it will give you a better understand of Islam and answer some questions...
http://www.beconvinced.com/ |
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| 2003specv |
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Originally posted by S2000_rider
It is not my intention to defame anyone's character on this forum. If I have offended you then I do apologize.
This conversation was going surprisingly well and free of personal attacks untill you showed up with, "You are a PHUKEN IDIOT!!!!".
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| Lets Race |
Thanks for getting back to me S2000_rider its been a pleasure having this dialogue with you.
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| If the Koran came to Prophet Muhammad as a message of peace, why did he command his army to kill an entire Jewish tribe? Did this really happen ? |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
If the Koran came to Prophet Muhammad as a message of peace, why did he command his army to kill an entire Jewish tribe? Did this really happen ?
Again, I have given you an excellent website source:
http://www.beconvinced.com
Perhaps you can touch base with one of the contacts at this site who can provide you with answer to all your questions. I do suggest however to speak with a an Imam at a Mosque as they will be able to provide a detailed answer.
I am no scholar of Islam so obviously I don't have all the answers. Being this is a Car forum and not a Religous forum you will find only limited knowledge of Religion. For eg. I wouldn't go to a Religous forum and ask them how to do an engine swap...Sure someone MAY know the basics but you would be hard pressed to find a clear cut answer. The best thing would be to obviosly ask a Mechanic who has extensive experience on this subject. In this case, if your truely curious it would obviously be to your advantage to speak with a scholar in Islam who WILL provide you a clear cut answer.
Sorry for the long winded response but hopefully you get my point :). |
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| MightyMidget |
oh btw did anyone see the video of that civi american telling the iraqis about his family back home and then decapitated the guy....WTF :mad: :mad: :mad:
they said it was for the prisoner abuse..bull fucking shit, it was just another excsue to kill someone!!
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| penance |
I've seen it
It made me sick:( |
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| BZZRTN |
why is this even a topic on a car board?
i know its general chat ru bored, but relgion and
politics!?!? whats this world comming to?!
opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
so meh.
deal with it or dont. i know i dont care and i think this
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by MightyMidget
oh btw did anyone see the video of that civi american telling the iraqis about his family back home and then decapitated the guy....WTF :mad: :mad: :mad:
they said it was for the prisoner abuse..bull fucking shit, it was just another excsue to kill someone!!
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They're investigating what? 30 homicides in Iraqi prisons? HOMICIDES. Murders by US troops, so where's difference.
It's not about "another excuse to kill someone". In that region you grow up with death, death is everywhere your entire life, it's about them trying to do anything they can to stop bein OPRESSED. 60 years it's lasted, I'd be crazy too. |
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| That was horrible, just horrible. If it was right, then why did they cover their faces with disguises? War is horrible, but murder is worse. |
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Originally posted by MightyMidget
oh btw did anyone see the video of that civi american telling the iraqis about his family back home and then decapitated the guy....WTF :mad: :mad: :mad:
they said it was for the prisoner abuse..bull fucking shit, it was just another excsue to kill someone!!
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post the video......... i got one 2 but i dont know how to upload videos?:dunno: |
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| ehos |
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Originally posted by Skillz
If you dont like us, attack the US!! Whats that? Youll get fuckinh destroyed?? Oh, I forgot.
If Canada didnt share the 49th parallel with a superpower, life would be a lot worse in your country. [/B]
Americans are so ignorant. All you understand is violence. Canada and other civilized countries have learned that was isn't the answer.
Well come to the new age. Too bad the one superpower hasn't learned to play nice.
Also, you're saying Canadians share a border with the US and that's the only reason we have it good?
Um, what about the other countries (IE EUROPE) that don't share a border with USA? They have it pretty bad huh?
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where are the WMDs?
hidden in the sand?
take a look at this page and you tell me...
its a big fuckin desert, and you seem to have lots of time, go digging
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WMD: More excuses and lies. It's a BS war. US just needed a reason to enter. A lame one too.
North Korea: It's hypocracy, that's why the US can't do anything. Because NK would make Cali glow. US can only pick on weaker, defensless people/countries on false pretext.
Check thier history. It's pretty plain. Seems like you should stop reading comic books and read some of the small text ones? |
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| ehos |
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Originally posted by Lets Race
Perhaps while the Americans are performing these acts on prisoners they should quote the Qur'an.
BS Quotes snipped.
The Koran is in Arabic. Pretty cool how everyone quotes it in English huh? |
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| driving a lemon |
Here is my opinion......
If women ruled the world.. Such cruel and violent behavior would not be all over the news...There would be no terrorizing of helpless people.. there wouldnt be all of the blood shed..
However......
Telephone bills would be at a all time high because all of the world leaders would be calling to bitch at eachother about the other one.. the would be a bit of hair pulling and name calling at big world meets...
I dunno.. In the end ..
Can't we all just hav one big group hug and call it a day??????? |
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| penance |
quote:
Originally posted by driving a lemon
Telephone bills would be at a all time high because all of the world leaders would be calling to bitch at eachother about the other one.. the would be a bit of hair pulling and name calling at big world meets...
Haha..... well after growing up with tonnes of female relatives and friends. It could get pretty ugly when two world leaders went from closest allies to greatest enemys based on ones opinion of the others boyfriend, ect. :lol: :lol:
Sounds like grounds for nuclear war... :lol: :lol:
Im glad im a guy... :bthumbup: |
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| TheNeonEdge |
On kinda a side note, anyone see the paper today, some iraqi's beheaded an american!:eek:
--ThE EdGe |
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| 2003specv |
| Yeah, that was pretty fucked. Did you watch the vid? Ewwww.... |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
[B]North Korea: It's hypocracy, that's why the US can't do anything. Because NK would make Cali glow. US can only pick on weaker, defensless people/countries on false pretext.
[B]
Thank you! They would make Cali glow like the 4th of July. I have no doubt that the U.S. would win the war but the amount of American body bags that will come back is something the U.S. Public will NOT tolerate. 10,000 innocent Iraqi's dead is okay with them but one U.S. solidier is one to many... |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
The Koran is in Arabic. Pretty cool how everyone quotes it in English huh?
Well said... |
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| Lets Race |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
The Koran is in Arabic. Pretty cool how everyone quotes it in English huh?
Are you suggesting that the Qur'an is unable to be successfully translated into other languages ? |
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| Lets Race |
A bunch of guys chopping another guys head off will definitely advance Islam's cause all over the world. Makes me want to join up.
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar |
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| stealth |
| Like it was kinda posted perviously, people are brainwashed by the american media and form of propoganda. It seems when you hear 10,000 Arabs are killed in X country, by the US army, no one cares, but on american soldier, its like wow, that is a big deal.... |
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Originally posted by stealth
Like it was kinda posted perviously, people are brainwashed by the american media and form of propoganda. It seems when you hear 10,000 Arabs are killed in X country, by the US army, no one cares, but on american soldier, its like wow, that is a big deal....
I Agree..
The American Media is like a big Juggernaut. It influences many countrys.
For example whats like the #1 place most ppl go for news....... CNN. Now correct me if im wrong but isn't that based outta Atlanta?
Even we all flip over to cnn knowing its american, and many times we will be watching yet again another sobfest waste of time. Now don't BS me, some of these current issues deserve the attention..... but i don't see any 3hr live reports when some british soldier scrapes his knee?! (its just an example)
Some of these URGENT news reports they have seem like filler so they don't have to report on any serious world news that doesn't include them... :dunno: |
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| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
A bunch of guys chopping another guys head off will definitely advance Islam's cause all over the world. Makes me want to join up.
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar
Wow, just when I was beginning to have some respect for you, you say something completely retarded. To answer your question, NO, beheading a guy doesn't advance the cause of Islam. You should have just left it at that.
Then you follow it up with an ignorant comment by saying
"Makes me want to join up.Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar"
This is not only saracastic but offensive. If you truely think these barbaric individuals represent mainstream Islam then I feel sorry you. Again, should I base Christianity on the KKK? Or Judaism on the Goldstein fellow who murdered x amount of worshippers in a mosque? Or how about the Hindu fellow who killed Gandhi?
What is surprising is through all the backlash Islam has faced in the past 20 years or so, it is the fastest growing religion in the world.
Run a google search with the following : Fastest growing Religion
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This is what me and Funkmaster Flex think about the situation
Verboten |
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| Lets Race |
You can mention christians , jews , hitler ,kkk or martians if you want.
But none of them are running around calling North America ,great satan , the western world must burn,. those kinds of racist slurs .This all seems very threatening .I imagine that most Muslims fine. But Islam has a PR problem that it needs to deal with otherwise it will continue to be seen through the lens of yesterdays news.I sympathies with you in that if I was part of a group that had a minority of members that behaved in such a way as to give us all a black eye I to would be frustrated.
I am neither a Bush hater or supporter and I can honestly say there's not a Muslim in the world that I hate . I'll reserve judgment till I know someone.If Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet. As for the fastest growing religion that may well be , but there are these nasty roomers that throughout history and today some people are given the choice of excepting Islam or death,any truth to that ? That can be an effective method of increasing numbers.Islam needs a reformation as the christians had 600 - 700 years ago it did good things for them one of which was being able to live more peaceably with other peoples who were different from them.
What do you think , should Islam change to get along in a pluralistic world ? Or is there only one beleif by which people must live ?
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by stealth
Like it was kinda posted perviously, people are brainwashed by the american media and form of propoganda. It seems when you hear 10,000 Arabs are killed in X country, by the US army, no one cares, but on american soldier, its like wow, that is a big deal....
9 moguls (ie corps, people) control 98% of American Media.
Most of those corporations have a HUGE vested interest to only air GOOD news.
Ie, showing reality is bad. It makes Americans feel bad. And when people feel bad, they buy less shit.
So, the joy-joy media is drip-feeding the Americans enough 'feel-good-drug' to keep the economy rolling.
Only in America is the Media coverage so tainted by $$$. And there's NO attempt to hide that FACT. |
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| ehos |
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Originally posted by Lets Race
You can mention christians , jews , hitler ,kkk or martians if you want.
But none of them are running around calling North America ,great satan , the western world must burn,. those kinds of racist slurs .
You should re-examine who is calling who what. :)
'Axis of Evil' Who coined that term? "Terrorist" Who coined that word?
"Communism will take over the world!"
"We can do whatever we want." Bush.
Americans are the biggest racists ever. It's in their history. 1900-04, 100,000 Islam civilians killed in Philliphines.
500,000 dead CHILDREN in Iraq because of US led sanctions.
Support for Isreali 'assasination' squads, not to mention the TRILLIONS of dollars of support to stop Palestine 'action'. Those rocks sure are scary to US/Isreali tanks huh?
I could site you 100 examples (no hyperbole) of US assasination attempts on foreign leaders, illegal wars, proxy wars, and basic abuse of human life as long as it's not American.
All human life is the same. Only Americans don't seem to realize that.
Why do Americans put Canadian flags on their gear when they travel abroad? Where's the patriotism? :) |
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quote:
Originally posted by ehos
Only in America is the Media coverage so tainted by $$$. And there's NO attempt to hide that FACT.
True, although u can't limit that to their media.......... that country is run by money. Beliefs, Values & Morals go right out the window when confronted with the all American Dollar.
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Why do Americans put Canadian flags on their gear when they travel abroad? Where's the patriotism?
I wondered that too.......... like that american guy that posted awhile ago, ranting on about how we are just so lucky to be their neighbours..... like it was our fucking privledge or something.
ACTUALLY they're lucky to be OUR neighbour....
Gotta love those hardcore patriotic americans pissing all over canada for the way we do things........... then when they leave their country they drop who they are, posing as those they supposedly hate!! Ohhh the Irony :p |
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quote:
Originally posted by ehos
North Korea: It's hypocracy, that's why the US can't do anything. Because NK would make Cali glow. US can only pick on weaker, defensless people/countries on false pretext.
No they wouldn't make "Cali glow". You actualy think a country would attempt to nuke a party of the US? Its complete annihilation for that country. And for anyone who had a problem with it. |
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| S2000_rider |
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Originally posted by TheWask
No they wouldn't make "Cali glow". You actualy think a country would attempt to nuke a party of the US? Its complete annihilation for that country. And for anyone who had a problem with it.
Uhmm..I'm pretty sure he meant IF the U.S. attacked North Korea first... |
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| Lets Race |
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Originally posted by ehos
You should re-examine who is calling who what. :)
'Axis of Evil' Who coined that term? "Terrorist" Who coined that word?
"Communism will take over the world!"
"We can do whatever we want." Bush.
Americans are the biggest racists ever. It's in their history. 1900-04, 100,000 Islam civilians killed in Philliphines.
500,000 dead CHILDREN in Iraq because of US led sanctions.
Support for Isreali 'assasination' squads, not to mention the TRILLIONS of dollars of support to stop Palestine 'action'. Those rocks sure are scary to US/Isreali tanks huh?
I could site you 100 examples (no hyperbole) of US assasination attempts on foreign leaders, illegal wars, proxy wars, and basic abuse of human life as long as it's not American.
All human life is the same. Only Americans don't seem to realize that.
Why do Americans put Canadian flags on their gear when they travel abroad? Where's the patriotism? :)
ehos what you quote is what America says it doesn’t really apply. I’m no USA lover but there’s a lot worse people to have to live next door to .However I am a citizen of this continent and from time to time through the news there are those elements with in Islam
that express a desire to see North America become a Muslim land .I really enjoy the western life style and it seems quite difficult for Islam and the west to co-exsist. And I think you’d agree that it’s a frightful matter when people direct threats at the continent you live on. Weather we like America or not what happens to them (i e : terror attack ) impacts Canada also. I’m deeply concerned that if these to cultures don’t come to a concussion there’ll be a much larger war and who will be left standing at the end is uncertain. |
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| Can any of the moderate main stream Muslims tell us what if anything their members are doing to make the Jihadests and extremist followers of their faith cease the violent behaviors? |
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| ehos |
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Originally posted by Lets Race
Can any of the moderate main stream Muslims tell us what if anything their members are doing to make the Jihadests and extremist followers of their faith cease the violent behaviors?
The same could be asked of the hawks in America.
Where have the doves gone?
And its' America invading countries. Which Muslim/Islamic country invaded American soil? (Don't say 911, because the US started this nonsense LONG before that).
Almost 100 years before. (Believe that). |
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| Lets Race |
Could anyone direct me to good forms or news groups for further discussion of Islamic matters.
Thanks |
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| stealth |
quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
You can mention christians , jews , hitler ,kkk or martians if you want.
But none of them are running around calling North America ,great satan , the western world must burn,. those kinds of racist slurs .This all seems very threatening .I imagine that most Muslims fine. But Islam has a PR problem that it needs to deal with otherwise it will continue to be seen through the lens of yesterdays news.I sympathies with you in that if I was part of a group that had a minority of members that behaved in such a way as to give us all a black eye I to would be frustrated.
I am neither a Bush hater or supporter and I can honestly say there's not a Muslim in the world that I hate . I'll reserve judgment till I know someone.If Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet. As for the fastest growing religion that may well be , but there are these nasty roomers that throughout history and today some people are given the choice of excepting Islam or death,any truth to that ? That can be an effective method of increasing numbers.Islam needs a reformation as the christians had 600 - 700 years ago it did good things for them one of which was being able to live more peaceably with other peoples who were different from them.
What do you think , should Islam change to get along in a pluralistic world ? Or is there only one beleif by which people must live ?
And i feel your previous post was also quite offensive.
About truth or death, i highly doubt that is true. As when we bring people into our religion, we do not force it upon them, it is there choice.
"Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet"
we havent heard anything from the israilie/Jewish canadians, saying that the murder of palestianians is horrific....
And to answer your question if Islam should change. The answer is Islam will never change. |
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| stealth |
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Originally posted by Lets Race
Could anyone direct me to good forms or news groups for further discussion of Islamic matters.
Thanks
BTW ill look for some. |
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| Lets Race |
And I feel your previous post was also quite offensive.
The one referring to ALLAHU AKBAR ? merely repeating what the executioners
shouted yesterday as they chopped off that guys skull. However since that post
it appears that most of Islam doesn’t hold the killers view .
About truth or death, I highly doubt that is true. As when we bring people into our religion, we do not force it upon them, it is there choice. So then it can be said with out a doubt that in all
of Islam's 1400 or so years the cause was never once advanced by the sword ?
"Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet"
we haven’t heard anything from the israilie/Jewish canadians, saying that the murder of palestianians is horrific.... I don’t quite understand what do the jews or any other group
have to do with it ? Keep in mind of the 15 conflicts taking place in the world right now
the people involved one side in each are claiming to do so in the name of Islam.
On the surface that doesn’t look good from a PR stand point . Perhaps they’re not
true Muslims?
(source : United Nations stats on world conflicts)
And to answer your question if Islam should change. The answer is Islam will never change.
Will never change ? even if it means going to war ?
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quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
And I feel your previous post was also quite offensive.
The one referring to ALLAHU AKBAR ? merely repeating what the executioners
shouted yesterday as they chopped off that guys skull. However since that post
it appears that most of Islam doesn’t hold the killers view .
About truth or death, I highly doubt that is true. As when we bring people into our religion, we do not force it upon them, it is there choice. So then it can be said with out a doubt that in all
of Islam's 1400 or so years the cause was never once advanced by the sword ?
"Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet"
we haven’t heard anything from the israilie/Jewish canadians, saying that the murder of palestianians is horrific.... I don’t quite understand what do the jews or any other group
have to do with it ? Keep in mind of the 15 conflicts taking place in the world right now
the people involved one side in each are claiming to do so in the name of Islam.
On the surface that doesn’t look good from a PR stand point . Perhaps they’re not
true Muslims?
(source : United Nations stats on world conflicts)
And to answer your question if Islam should change. The answer is Islam will never change.
Will never change ? even if it means going to war ?
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The one about the Israilis, is that we didnt expect them to say anything regarding the issue, in a positive way, so why should people expect anything from us?
And yes, Islam was set in stone, it was not ment to be bent a little bit to acomodate for something. |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
And I feel your previous post was also quite offensive.
The one referring to ALLAHU AKBAR ? merely repeating what the executioners
shouted yesterday as they chopped off that guys skull. However since that post
it appears that most of Islam doesn’t hold the killers view .
About truth or death, I highly doubt that is true. As when we bring people into our religion, we do not force it upon them, it is there choice. So then it can be said with out a doubt that in all
of Islam's 1400 or so years the cause was never once advanced by the sword ?
"Islam in Canada agrees with you that the decapitation yesterday was horrific it should come out and says so, haven't heard anything yet"
we haven’t heard anything from the israilie/Jewish canadians, saying that the murder of palestianians is horrific.... I don’t quite understand what do the jews or any other group
have to do with it ? Keep in mind of the 15 conflicts taking place in the world right now
the people involved one side in each are claiming to do so in the name of Islam.
On the surface that doesn’t look good from a PR stand point . Perhaps they’re not
true Muslims?
(source : United Nations stats on world conflicts)
And to answer your question if Islam should change. The answer is Islam will never change.
Will never change ? even if it means going to war ?
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yes you are right about the advancement by the sword, it may have been so in history, but i believe it was under some circumstances of which I am not well educated on, so I cant really give any insite on that issue.
And as for peopling saying they are doing it in the name of Islam, that is not true at all times. There are certain circumstances when you can claim it is in the name of Islam, if you search on google you can find information on that also. |
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LetsRace: Islam spread by sword?
(Excellent link --->)http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/History/islam_spread.htm
http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/sword.html
http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/m...2=3&cat3=10
Here is a quote:
3. Opinion of historian De Lacy O’Leary.
The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated."
I'm pretty much done with you LetsRace. Myself and others here have been spoon feeding you yet clearly your mind is set. We have been providing links, quotes, invites to Mosques etc etc yet I highly doubt you have read or will read any of the links considering your questions can be answered if you did a bit of research into the links. Myself and Stealth have invited you numerous times to speak with an Imam and you decline yet you continuously ask questions that can be answered in full detail by an Imam or an educated Scholar of Islam. You ask for an Islamic forums...DO A SEARCH! They are plenty! I don't mean to come off as rude LetsRace but do a bit of research on your own or take myself or Stealth up on our offers to bring you to a Mosque and have you speak with a scholar that will hopefully answer your questions or lead you to a source that will.
Finally...
Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?
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| well that news got me flamed, torture happens in every war weather you like it or not, but what got my flamed is that the American government claimed to be so much better and that they would never do such a thing, yet they turn around and they do it, they dont practice what they preach, they are all the same, none is better than the other |
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quote:
Originally posted by SilverBullet85
well that news got me flamed, torture happens in every war weather you like it or not, but what got my flamed is that the American government claimed to be so much better and that they would never do such a thing, yet they turn around and they do it, they dont practice what they preach, they are all the same, none is better than the other
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| stealth |
| What do you mean by obsessed with killing their babies? seriously. |
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| Lets Race |
Sorry I wasn't clear . In Canada Muslims
have higher berth rate than others because the don't practice abortion.
Which I think is good. |
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| stealth |
| O ok, i cant defend or argue that statement, as im not sure if they tend to have abbortions or not. |
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You sure your on the right thread I don't see you posted any place in it.
i never said i posted in this thread before, i was just saying my opinion on the subject posted |
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| Lets Race |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SilverBullet85
well that news got me flamed,
Sorry I misunderstood your referance to getting flamed |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lets Race
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SilverBullet85
well that news got me flamed,
Sorry I misunderstood your referance to getting flamed
no prob we're all human |
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Its wonderfull how we can all have varied opinions and beliefs in this country.
Unless you have lived abroad you have no idea at how lucky we really are.
Religion, Race and Political Views aside it is a great thing to be Canadian.
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