| Crappy Tire is at it again! - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| ChromeDragon |
That is AWESOME!!!!!!!
Obviously something was wrong with the frame on the truck, but how the hell did they use the hoist to lift it?:dunno: |
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| 0range_240 |
dont mess with the crappy tire auto crew dave
they're so devious and clever |
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| redbaron303 |
I feel sooo sorry for that person and their truck....
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, just another reason not to let some tool work on your ride at a shitty service station!
Hopefully they go after the shop for a NEW truck. |
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| DeathBy240 |
| No I think the freame was fine, the bed had a HUGE tool box and A few big drums that looked like oil drums. It was packed with shit.... enough shit to probably bend the frame. |
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| REDX2NV |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
No I think the freame was fine, the bed had a HUGE tool box and A few big drums that looked like oil drums. It was packed with shit.... enough shit to probably bend the frame.
Thats the sherwood park one, right? haha, im going to snap a few pics if its still there.. |
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| DeathBy240 |
Yup thats the sherwood park one. I wish I could have got pics of it when it was still in the air. :mad:
IF YOU HAVE A DIGI CAM ALWAYS BRING IT WITH YOU IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS!!! |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
No I think the freame was fine, the bed had a HUGE tool box and A few big drums that looked like oil drums. It was packed with shit.... enough shit to probably bend the frame.
WIth that said... would that make it the owners fault or the shops fault? The owner is at fault for packing his truck nad not clearing it out when it's at the shop... but the shop shouldn't have hoisted it up with that much shit in it? Who is liable? |
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| energie |
| hahah those idiots |
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| arabian_ryda |
| they must have put the host to far to the front an when they took it up the weight of the enigne and the shit in the back bent it in the middle. i think its the shops fault for this one because if it fell of the host then obvoiusly it was put in the wrong place which is the front and made the truck tip back cause of all the weight. hahha nice pic though dave someone make a owned pic out of this PLZZZZZ hahaha. |
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| BLK_LBL |
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa
"sorry sir somehow your truck got bent in half"
hahahahaha |
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| ehos |
Somehow, I think CT would figure out a way to blame the truck owner.
They're weasels like that. |
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| Mekanik22 |
I think it was CT's fault. Because you can tell just by the angle that it wasn't at a proper lift point....
And as requested above:
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| Mavrick |
Bugga!
I've already spoken out about Canadian Tire in the past. Don't take your car there, EVER. If you are pushing it, push further.
No doubt they will make up some excuse about the truck being old and weak, so it wasn't their fault that it broke, but the simple fact remains that any competent mechanic should survey the vehicle before hoisting it.
When I take my vehicle to a shop, I want it back in the same condition or better than when I took it there. Otherwise, I'd save my money and break it myself.
That's rough. I feel for the owner, cuz I bet he's gonna get screwed. :(
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| Mavrick |
and just for fun:
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| DomesticDrifter |
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
^^^ HAHHAHAH the 2nd own3d pic is sooooooooooooo good. someone should find out whos truck it is and give them these pictures. |
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| ehos |
It's not the truck owners fault.
He didn't get 'owned.' He got bent over.
PS It's not owned, it's pwned. Jeez, get it right. |
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| BLK_LBL |
was there last night snooping around, didnt see the truck though.
those owned pics are great |
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| Mekanik22 |
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| dmak_el |
OMG....that really sucks...
haha..
Oil change~$40
Front brake pads $80
Bend the frame ~ priceless. (i bet only CT can do this) |
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| THUD |
Well that is funny....I have seen 2 cars come off hoists in my life and it has never been pretty.
The first one was a recoditioning shop I worked at and one of coworkers was spraying under coating on a new Z71 when one of the hoist arms shot out from under the truck and wham!
no one was hurt but the reason for this was cause no one cleaned the pads on the arms.....50,000 buck truck was messed and they made the emplyee pay the deductable.
The second time I saw this happen when I was working at southpark pontiac, A customer came in to get an oil change and what ever else when pretty much the arm shot out and the front of the car did a noise dive bending the front end bad enough to bend the main windsheld piler.
That made it an write off......but the worst part was who the customer was....poor guy was clown and his licence plate said it too and he was really kool about it since he watched his car fall off and the mechanic do a quik tuck and roll away.
His caddy was toast so the manger grabed a D plate and picked him a nice new caddy DHS to drive till they sort out the mess out.
Crappy tire is at fault since it was in there building and under there policy they are held accoutable for all damges to the unit weather it was a malfunction of the hoist, or casue of employee neglect.
they should probly have had a rentel car waiting for that guy.
As long as no one was hurt..... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCKERS! :lol: |
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| stealth |
| shit i feel sorry for the guy, if that was me i would be flippping out. |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by THUD
Well that is funny....I have seen 2 cars come off hoists in my life and it has never been pretty.
The first one was a recoditioning shop I worked at and one of coworkers was spraying under coating on a new Z71 when one of the hoist arms shot out from under the truck and wham!
no one was hurt but the reason for this was cause no one cleaned the pads on the arms.....50,000 buck truck was messed and they made the emplyee pay the deductable.
The second time I saw this happen when I was working at southpark pontiac, A customer came in to get an oil change and what ever else when pretty much the arm shot out and the front of the car did a noise dive bending the front end bad enough to bend the main windsheld piler.
That made it an write off......but the worst part was who the customer was....poor guy was clown and his licence plate said it too and he was really kool about it since he watched his car fall off and the mechanic do a quik tuck and roll away.
His caddy was toast so the manger grabed a D plate and picked him a nice new caddy DHS to drive till they sort out the mess out.
Crappy tire is at fault since it was in there building and under there policy they are held accoutable for all damges to the unit weather it was a malfunction of the hoist, or casue of employee neglect.
they should probly have had a rentel car waiting for that guy.
As long as no one was hurt..... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCKERS! :lol:
Holy shit, you've seen quite the incidents there, lol. I've seen incidents at car places and stuff, but not really hoist related. |
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| jayburn |
Shouldnt the truck have flipped over backwards before breaking? maybe this was a blessing for the guy driving around with a rusted or damaged frame with 1000 or more lbs in the back.
Im not trying to downplay the fault of canadian tire for hoisting something with so much weight in the back, but that truck had to be done before it entered crappy tire. IMO. |
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| Nightstalker |
| HA HA HA HA HA, ROTFL,I love the photoshops.. |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by jayburn
Shouldnt the truck have flipped over backwards before breaking?
The engine weighed down the front it appears, just enough that the truck didn't flip back. The frame was the next weakest spot, so it just bent. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Haha yea, remind me never to take my car their. Ive had to take it there twice for a busted alt and a new water pump, ouch. |
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| 80SierraClassic |
I'm from Ardrossan, just East of the park, and this made me laugh real hard!
I know a couple of the guys in that shop, and for some reason, it totally doesn't surprise me that they managed something like that :D I'm surprised I've never gotten a call from one asking me which way you have to turn the drain plug to tighten it :D
Just feel the need to address the one guy who spoke about the frame being rusted out / weak -- GM designed that era of truck's frames to bend right where it did to absorb impacts during an accident etc. If you are ever lifting mid 90s truck like that one, you absolutely always have to lift it by the leaf springs / axles. Improper lifting can result in this kind of frame damage regardless of wether the truck was loaded or not... |
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| Mavrick |
Indeed, most pickup frames are designed to bend under the cab, depending on the point of impact. As scary as this sounds, they can withstand hits from the back and the front at the same time, and still povide protection to the driver as the cab is designed to push above the frame and the driveline. Don't consider them weak, tho. Take a run at a full-size pickup with any sport-compact, and it's gonna hurt you more than him.
Each vehicle has marked lift points on their frame, and if you can't find them or don't know where to lift it from, use a rack instead. Or, do it old school, and lift it where you need it one wheel at a time to distribute the weight.
Better yet, get a mechanic that has worked on your vehicle type before and has experience and a working knowledge of them.
And did I mention.... Never let a Canadian Tire 'mechanic' touch your car.
Don't get me wrong. Canadian Tire has some good parts at pretty good prices, and can order any type of aftermarket performance part you might want. Just don't let them install it.
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| DeathBy240 |
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Originally posted by Mavrick
Don't get me wrong. Canadian Tire has some good parts at pretty good prices, and can order any type of aftermarket performance part you might want. Just don't let them install it.
Mav.
Performance parts? I have only seen K&N filters and a whole lot of rice. |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
Performance parts? I have only seen K&N filters and a whole lot of rice.
www.driverfx.ca
Not the best selection, but you can get some good prices on certain things. |
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| Mavrick |
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Performance parts? I have only seen K&N filters and a whole lot of rice.
Check out some of the catalogs that are usually on a couple of big racks by the parts counter. Canadian Tire can supply aftermarket headers, intakes, carbs, cams, throttle bodies, wheels, tires, ignition, performance chips, even nitrous. Pretty much anything you want, but of course they will have to order it as they don't keep that kind of thing in stock.
They deal with such names as Edelbrock, MSD, Accel, American Racing, Konig, AutoMeter, APC, Hooker, FlowMaster, Hurst, Holley, I could go on and on.
Pretty much anything that JB's Automotive or Parts Source can get, so can CT. You just need to find somebody at CT who knows what the fuck you are talking about, which is rare.
On second thought, you're better off doing your shopping somewhere else. But if you're ever bored and want to have some fun, call the Canadian Tire Parts Department and ask them for a price on some rear brake shoes for a 1983 Chevrolet Corvette, or a water pump and an air filter for a 1968 Volkswagen Beetle. That should keep them busy for a while, as none of those items exist.
What is really frustrating with them is trying to order parts that DO exist, like a right-side tailpipe and rear pads for my TC. I argued with the parts guy for 10 minutes before I left and bought them at Parts Source instead (even though I had to argue with them about my pads, too).
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| 7_speed |
Well how should i start this? First i think you are all being suprisingly ignorant. None of you know the actual story and judging by the posts I've read most of you are just jumping on the bandwagon. I'm an apprentice mechanic, have been working in the trade for several years now, a couple of them at the canadian tire in question. I know the actual story so sit back and read. It was an 1988 Chev 1/2 work truck for a construction worker. The truck had 560 000 km's a 4000 lbs gvw frame (which was only kept by gm for 3-4 years because they realized how shitty it was) The customer had neglected to mention that he had about 40 boxes of nails weighing about 60 lbs each (for those that cant multiply thats 2400lbs) behind the rear axle and under the box line so it wasnt obviously visible and even if you did see it you would'nt know nearly what they weighed, as well as a propane tank in the rear. As far as the hoisting of the vehicle anybody who has ever lifted a chevy 1/2 ton knows that you can lift them from the flat part of the frame before it banks up at the end of the cab safely even with a reasonable amount of weight in the box(i've probably lifted over 200 that way). The leverage from where the weight was, on top of the old weak frame caused what you saw in the pictures.
As far as the "Crappy tire Mechanics" being a whole new breed of monkey fuck wrench pullers that you have labelled them as, they are trained no different then the mechanics that you take your car to, the only reason you hear so many stories from canadian tire is because the are one of the largest automotive shops across canada, and you hear about them beacause they work on so many more cars than most shops out there. The fuck up ratios are the same as anywhere else but the number of cars they work on is triple most other shops. There is so much more I want to say but i'm sure your vision is starting to blur by now so i'll cover it in reply's to the dumbass posts that i'm sure will follow this post.
And by the way the customer didn't even care. He said he should have mentioned the weight in the back and that the truck had seen its day and was going to get replaced in the fall anyways. |
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| Bad Egg |
Good reply, but the truth interferes with a good bash job...today at lunch, before reading your story, I was telling a old mechanic buddy about the picture. He said that there had to be something seriously wrong with the truck and/or excessive weight involved for that to happen. Then I check back here and what you wrote confirms it.
...and everyone was having so much fun, too... |
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| arabian_ryda |
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Originally posted by DeathBy240
Then I heard the conversation:
Guy 1 "We fuckin bent the frame!"
Guy 2 "Hmmm never seen anything like that before...."
Guy 3 "If we set it down it will bend back though right?"
Guy 1 "No. I think its fucked"
ya im sure there REAL mechanics.............. |
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| Altezza |
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Originally posted by arabian_ryda
ya im sure there REAL mechanics..............
thats great haha i wonder if we can bend it back stoopid shit:p |
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| sstuner |
First off
havent been on here in a while good to see you guys keeping this thing going.
#2 the catalogs at crappy tire are nice to look at but you can get better prices and faster delivery else where. and i mean alot better prices.
#3. why would you take your car to crappy tire to begin with??? i only go there to get oil for my truck and thats because i dont give a rat ass about it.
#4 Mr. Canadian Tire Apprentice. you seriously need to get a better place to work. not slamming you man, so dont get all bent out of shape. what you are learning there is how to cheat the customer and how to do a half assed job at repairing cars and trucks. if you want to learn and i mean learn how to your job go work for an old guy in his own shop that has been around for ever. sure you get paid but what are you realy learing at the end of the day working there. the only reason canadian tire makes so much money in the shop is its the only thing open on sunday and holidays. and people are too trusting. and if you are sitting there reading this thinking i am full of shit, seriously think about the jobs that your boss told you to do and you knew for a fact that you didnt have to change this or change that.
if you can honestly sit there and say that you have never done something that you felt was "wrong" then you have no soul. and have no business touching other people stuff which they have left in your hands to safe guard.
#5. the truck is too funny. the owner was way over the gross weight of the truck. but the mechanic should have checked to see how much crap was in there. in my shop if i wreck it i buy it. no way around it. but it does happen and you can make up some lame ass excuse about why it broke but again refer to the end of #4.
#6 canadian tire cant even do a simple wheel alignment. took them 4 tries to do a friends car and then i ended up taking over the job in canadian tire.
#7 canadian tire doesnt give a shit about you or your vehicle they are just out to screw you over, and dont say no they arent, i have seen it a million times and i see it every day where " well canadian tire said this" again refer to number 4
and please note that at no time did i use any slanderous remarks towards the mechanic in question or to the young fella that works at that store.
i am turning over a new leaf and i no longer make fun of people or call them names. i beat them with a hockey stick. works alot better, walk softly and carry a big stick
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| 98 teg |
| ummm monkey fuck wrench pullers:lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| got_ceskis |
| if we set it back down itll bend back right lol hahahahahaha thanks for the laugh i wont b takin my car there anytime soon |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by got_ceskis
if we set it back down itll bend back right lol hahahahahaha thanks for the laugh i wont b takin my car there anytime soon
Setting it back down won't work. You have to use Canadian Tire logic, you have to use vice grips, silly.... :lol: |
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| Curtass |
The apprentice posting doesn't work there anymore, he works with me at another shop. He is honest and doesn't screw people over, and he worked at Crappy Tire. Imagine that. They do have a few good mechanics that are reliable and honest. I've met them and I'd trust my car with them. The bent truck was lifted by a young tire-buster, not a mechanic. Anywho, the moral of the story is if you don't like it there, don't go there. Nobody is making you go.
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| 303 |
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Originally posted by 7_speed
As far as the "Crappy tire Mechanics" being a whole new breed of monkey fuck wrench pullers that you have labelled them as, they are trained no different then the mechanics that you take your car to, the only reason you hear so many stories from canadian tire is because the are one of the largest automotive shops across canada, and you hear about them beacause they work on so many more cars than most shops out there. The fuck up ratios are the same as anywhere else but the number of cars they work on is triple most other shops.
speaking of monkey fucks, i, because they were open on sunday, got my oil changed at the one on calgary trail. not only was a "mechanic" making monkey noises and acting like an ass, he was interfering(poking them/stealing tools) with the "mechanic" that was working on MY car!! it was rediculious! i will never take my car there again. i expected that since you can see right into the service bay, and that i was right next to where my car was being worked on, they would do their job with a higher level of professionalism not fucking around. i guess the stories of canadian tire are endless, lesson learned. |
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| PraxRX7 |
The problem at Canadian tire is the managers and the guys in charge in the shop.
They should not be allowing the tire-busters to do work that they are not qualified for, as far as I am concerned that is like practicing law without a license, serious damage can happen.
My car will always go to people who know what they are doing, the only exception to that is when I am getting new tires, and then I sit around and watch every little piece of work they do.
Canadian tire is generally a bad choice for getting any work done. I went there to get tires put on ONCE cause they were the only place still open...not only did they not re-tourqe the tires after dropping the car, they also used an impact wrench set at a really high setting that made the nuts almost impossible to loosen and re-tourqe to the recommended values...
Canadian Tire will only get my business for buying batteries and parts, and I am losing faith in their battery brands as well, seeing as the 3 year warantee ones wont hold a charge after 1.5 years. Yea and the changing the store around every 6 months so no one can find anything is really working too :bthumbup: |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by PraxRX7
they also used an impact wrench set at a really high setting that made the nuts almost impossible to loosen and re-tourqe to the recommended values...
I know it may seem that way, but alot of people, like myself, use torque sticks on the impact gun. It may seem it's getting tightened at 400 foot pounds, when really, the torque stick only allows only the amount that it's made for. For example if you have a 100 foot pound torque stick, it will only allow 100 foot pounds of torque, no more. But if you acually saw him use a impact socket and nothing more, then I typed all that for nothing, lol. Oh well... |
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| Xpnsve |
I took my car to canadian tire once to replace a clogged fuel filter or something. They kept the car for 4 hours then called me to come pick it up. I paid, shrugged off the $1000 repair estimate on an unrelated problem that didn't exist and drove the car home.
I got a phone call 1 hour later.
oops, they forgot to replace the filter
So ya, they lost my business right there. Stereotyping is definitely appropriate.
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| newtuner |
| I have a couple of crappy tire stories myself, I'm sure everybody has their own. I keep reading that the only reason somebody has taken their car there is because it's the only place open still. What is somebody that doesn't know alot about cars suppose to do? I mean you can't always wait until the next day or you have to get to work. Or like myself I have been stuck on the other side of the city, and no way home. In a perfect situation you could roll your car into your mechanics shop everytime but, sometimes the closest thing is crappy tire. I guess the only thing you can do to stay out of these situations is to keep on top of your cars maintenance so if nothing breaks you wouldn't have to take it there. |
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| Mekanik22 |
| I was talking to a mechanic at my work, and he used to be an assistant manager there. Anyways, they had a "game" where they would roll up rags, tape them, then make the ends really hard so it was like a whip. Then used to whip each other :dunno: But one day, a guy whipped the assistant manager, and he turned around and PUNCHED him right in the jaw, lol. Then in the winter, they'd have snowball fights. One kid spent like 15 minutes packing 1 snowball, he threw it, smacked a kid right in the nose and blood BLEW everywhere, lol. :lol: So I guess they bend frames, hurt each other, and just in general, fuck around. The professionalism there is EXTREMELY high.... :rolleyes: :lol: |
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| sstuner |
Good day to all
Its good to hear that the young fellow got out of that shop.
again i was not taking shots at him....
I realy enjoyed reading all the stories about canadian tire.
still laughing my ass off about the truck
yesterday i was sitting in my shop and this hot chic comes in and asks me if i can look at her car. no problem i am a sucker for the hotties.
so she starts telling me about a mechainc that told her that her car is back firing becuase there is oil on her timing belt and she better get that changed right away.
i cant remember what kind of car it was but it didnt have a timing belt and the " back firing" was all due to a missing spark plug. which her dad changed 2 weeks ago and then she had her oil changed on wednesday.
the " back firing" started soon after she left from getting her oil changed.
now can any one guess where she got her oil changed????
can any one guess where she went to get the " back firing" fixed??????????????????????
thats right canadian tire.
imagine my shock as i looked at her car and asked her where she took it and she said to " canadian tire"
i am still in disbelief as to the lack of proffesionalism portrayed by these "mechanics"
wow
this one here definitley falls into the monkey fuck wrench bender catagory |
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| newtuner |
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this one here definitley falls into the monkey fuck wrench bender catagory
Come on man get it right, it's pullers. Ha HA
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new breed of monkey fuck wrench pullers
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| Mavrick |
Hey, I got a new one here. It's not about Canadian Tire, it's actually about Fountain Tire.
I have some friends who recently bought a used Toyota 4-Runner with 150,000K on it. Really nice and clean, looks well cared for, and no rust and a great body. Two weeks ago my friend went out to start it, heard a loud pop right after it started, and then it started blowing white smoke. Yes, the head gasket was done for.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that I am not a professional mechanic, so if you feel the need to bash, then bash away. I also haven't had to repair any Toyotas besides my 83 Corolla, so I can't say that I'm experienced with the cost of parts for them or many other imports, either.
However.... I kinda thought that $1900 and change was a little steep. They were told that the head was damaged and would need to be replaced, so the engine was fitted with a refurbished head and of course a new head gasket. Maybe I've been driving domestics for too long, but I would expect a full engine rebuild for that kind of money. As a matter of fact, I have done full engine rebuilds for less money than that.
To top it off, less than 200km after getting the truck back, the oil pressure stays within the bottom third of the gauge, and a dragging rattle can be heard when you let off the throttle in gear above 2200rpm. It sure sounds like the timing chain to me, and I suspect that perhaps the chain tensioner is not properly in place or maybe not even attached any more.
I took it for a drive this weekend, and gave them my prognosis, and advised them to take it back in and get it looked at. I just thought I'd ask if anybody else has ever had any experience with a Toyota 22R head, and what they ought to be worth?
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| Mekanik22 |
| Might be possible. When they put the head on, they may have been off alittle on the timing marks. So this is a refurbished head? Could it be the head itself maybe? A plugged main oil gallery? Who knows... |
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| TheNeonEdge |
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Originally posted by Mavrick
Hey, I got a new one here. It's not about Canadian Tire, it's actually about Fountain Tire.
I have some friends who recently bought a used Toyota 4-Runner with 150,000K on it. Really nice and clean, looks well cared for, and no rust and a great body. Two weeks ago my friend went out to start it, heard a loud pop right after it started, and then it started blowing white smoke. Yes, the head gasket was done for.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that I am not a professional mechanic, so if you feel the need to bash, then bash away. I also haven't had to repair any Toyotas besides my 83 Corolla, so I can't say that I'm experienced with the cost of parts for them or many other imports, either.
However.... I kinda thought that $1900 and change was a little steep. They were told that the head was damaged and would need to be replaced, so the engine was fitted with a refurbished head and of course a new head gasket. Maybe I've been driving domestics for too long, but I would expect a full engine rebuild for that kind of money. As a matter of fact, I have done full engine rebuilds for less money than that.
To top it off, less than 200km after getting the truck back, the oil pressure stays within the bottom third of the gauge, and a dragging rattle can be heard when you let off the throttle in gear above 2200rpm. It sure sounds like the timing chain to me, and I suspect that perhaps the chain tensioner is not properly in place or maybe not even attached any more.
I took it for a drive this weekend, and gave them my prognosis, and advised them to take it back in and get it looked at. I just thought I'd ask if anybody else has ever had any experience with a Toyota 22R head, and what they ought to be worth?
Mav.
I can totally see those bastards doing something like this, just try to take it back, they will blame it ALL on you!
Last year in the winter i took my T/A in to have the plugs changed, i dropped it off around 8am and told them to call me when its done.
No call at noon already so i call them. I get this news "so you needed your gastank replaced eh?"
Me"Uhh...no, i took it in for spark plugs do you have the wrong car?"
Guy"Oh Blue trans am?!"
Me"Yes."
Guy "Well, we brought your car in and gas leaked all over the floor you had a hole the size of a bottlecap in your tank"
me "WHAT?!?!?!"
Guy "Ya, uhh so we are gonna take the tank out and have it replaced."
me "Dont touch anything i will be right htere"
so i go on over there from the westin to the downtown loveseths/fountain tire, and examine it. So i look and sure enough there was a hole i could stick my pinky finger in in the gas tank. So i said, how did this happen. And he said "oh it was liek that when you brought it here."
I started to flip out it went something liek this
" NO IT DIDNT, SO YOUR TELLING ME I DROVE FROM ST. ALBERT TO DOWNTOWN A HALF HOUR DRIVE WITH A HOLE THIS SIZE IN MY GASTANK {the T/A tank was only about 40L} I WOULD HAVE NOTICED RUNNING OUT OF GAS!"
then i said, wait a sec, when i brought it here i drove it inside, when you called me you said you had "brought it around" meaning you parked it outside. so i go and look outside and what do you know, from where they backed it up the gas tank hit the curb, and there was a little trail in the snow all the way inside to where u could see they tried to mop away the evidence.
So i told them if they didnt replace it for free, I was never going there again {which i havnt since anyways} and that i will sue them.
So i got my plugs and tank for free, but damn i was so mad they were trying to screw me because i had taken my car there lots before, and they didn't even replace the spark plug wires like i asked them too which i found out 3 weeks later but i said fuck them, and found a new shop.
moral of the story DONT TAKE YOUR CAR THERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF BENDING OVER AND BEING LUBED UP!
Also, ANY PLACE THAT HAS "TIRE" in the name stay away from!
--ThE EdGe |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by TheNeonEdge
I can totally see those bastards doing something like this, just try to take it back, they will blame it ALL on you!
Last year in the winter i took my T/A in to have the plugs changed, i dropped it off around 8am and told them to call me when its done.
No call at noon already so i call them. I get this news "so you needed your gastank replaced eh?"
Me"Uhh...no, i took it in for spark plugs do you have the wrong car?"
Guy"Oh Blue trans am?!"
Me"Yes."
Guy "Well, we brought your car in and gas leaked all over the floor you had a hole the size of a bottlecap in your tank"
me "WHAT?!?!?!"
Guy "Ya, uhh so we are gonna take the tank out and have it replaced."
me "Dont touch anything i will be right htere"
so i go on over there from the westin to the downtown loveseths/fountain tire, and examine it. So i look and sure enough there was a hole i could stick my pinky finger in in the gas tank. So i said, how did this happen. And he said "oh it was liek that when you brought it here."
I started to flip out it went something liek this
" NO IT DIDNT, SO YOUR TELLING ME I DROVE FROM ST. ALBERT TO DOWNTOWN A HALF HOUR DRIVE WITH A HOLE THIS SIZE IN MY GASTANK {the T/A tank was only about 40L} I WOULD HAVE NOTICED RUNNING OUT OF GAS!"
then i said, wait a sec, when i brought it here i drove it inside, when you called me you said you had "brought it around" meaning you parked it outside. so i go and look outside and what do you know, from where they backed it up the gas tank hit the curb, and there was a little trail in the snow all the way inside to where u could see they tried to mop away the evidence.
So i told them if they didnt replace it for free, I was never going there again {which i havnt since anyways} and that i will sue them.
So i got my plugs and tank for free, but damn i was so mad they were trying to screw me because i had taken my car there lots before, and they didn't even replace the spark plug wires like i asked them too which i found out 3 weeks later but i said fuck them, and found a new shop.
moral of the story DONT TAKE YOUR CAR THERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF BENDING OVER AND BEING LUBED UP!
Also, ANY PLACE THAT HAS "TIRE" in the name stay away from!
--ThE EdGe
LOL :lol: Dood, that's awsome. This is a classic case of the consumer out-smarting the shop. Then you make them look like IDIOTS! lol. Nice man, at least you got everything for free! :) |
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Originally posted by Mekanik22
Might be possible. When they put the head on, they may have been off alittle on the timing marks. So this is a refurbished head? Could it be the head itself maybe? A plugged main oil gallery? Who knows...
The invoice indicated refurbished, (it's kinda hard to tell when everything has been pressure washed), and the price sure indicated at least that, as far as I'm concerned. I've paid much less than that to have two heads shaved, ported, polished, and fitted with new valves, seals, and roller rockers and lifters with a roller cam installed at the same time.
Being off on the timing marks would be inexcuseable to me as a consumer at any price. And plugged oil galleries would be enough to make ME blow a gasket at that price. I pay people to do a job properly the first time, as do the people who pay me to do my job. Refurbished or rebuilt means that it should have been done by a professional, and carry a warranty with it. More than just a warranty, I want it done right the first time, so that I don't have to worry about it the future, or the potential damage that an incorrect job might cause to the rest of the engine in the future. Then again, perhaps that is intentional?
What can possibly make a Toyota head so valuable? I have a hard enough time believing that it needed to be replaced at all. I think they are using the old "warped aluminum head" trick, which doesn't happen with an aluminum block. Am I wrong?
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| sstuner |
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Originally posted by newtuner
Come on man get it right, it's pullers. Ha HA
i apologise for my error i will ensure that in the future i will use the proper name for the clows at crappy tire and else where
monkey fuck wrench pullers, got it no worries
WARPED HEAD.
what was the reason behind them replacing it??? other than its fucked or warped.
did it bend a valve and push into the head????? was there a chunk missing from where the head gasket blew out???
sure if its too warped and shaving it will take off too much then yeah you have to change it.
low oil pressure, dont think its the plugged oil galleries cause that would mean a higher pressure than what you are showing. the oil path goes pretty much the same on all engines.
start with a conventional v type
1. oil pan
2. oil pick up
3. oil pump.
4. oil filter
5. oil goes to the crank shaft main bearings and then to the rod bearings.
6. oil moves up the engine through special machined and or cast passages to the cam shaft
7. oil goes through the lifters, causing them to expand as the valve train wears. this takes up the slack,
8. from the lifters oil travels through the push rod onto the rocker arms and is sprayed all over the top of the valves.
9. the oil then makes its way back to the pan to start the journey all over again
on an engine with an over head cam its the same thing only there are no lifters or push rods, some have rockers arms some dont. but the oil goes up to the head.
if the oil pressure is low i would look at the cam shaft bearing surfaces, most overhead cam engines do not have replacable bearings. the cam shaft rides on the aluminum head.
if the space is too big between the cam and the head then there is nothing there to hold the oil back so it squirts out faster than it should. there fore a lack of pressure.
wow what a bunch of typing i just did there.
well
to all you monkey fuck wrench pullers out there, look out cause sooner rather than later you are going to get busted because now there are more and more people tuning into the types of forums and reading up on how their cars work.
and did you know that if you complain to the apprenticeship and industry department, the same guys that issue the mechanics tickets, they have the option of pulling a ticket from a mechanic.
ha ha ha now i would hate to see them coming for me, which is why i dont screw around and i do my job the way it is supposed to be done.
again i am sorry for my earlier slip. PULLERS, it is engrained in my memory |
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by sstuner
to all you monkey fuck wrench pullers out there, look out cause sooner rather than later you are going to get busted because now there are more and more people tuning into the types of forums and reading up on how their cars work.
and did you know that if you complain to the apprenticeship and industry department, the same guys that issue the mechanics tickets, they have the option of pulling a ticket from a mechanic.
ha ha ha now i would hate to see them coming for me, which is why i dont screw around and i do my job the way it is supposed to be done.
again i am sorry for my earlier slip. PULLERS, it is engrained in my memory
Not all of us youngins bend truck frames and smash holes in gas tanks :) Pulling the ticket from the MECHANIC? I don't think that's right. Because technically he's isn't in charge of you. He is to a CERTAIN extent as far as safety goes, etc. But it's the employers or the service manager that is in charge. |
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| dogstar |
well, got a few things to say...
crappy tire lost my business before i ever took my car there, hell, before i even owned a car.
friends of ours live in calgary, and they went to a crappy tire to have their tires rotated, and driving home on deerfoot at 130kph, a tire rolls past them, and the wife says "hey, that looks kinda like the wheels on our car...honey, didnt you say our wheels were some special kind?"
right about this time, the right rear side of the car flops onto the pavement, they spin hard and tag the concrete wall fairly solidly.
there are countless other stories i can think of, but thats the one that scared me away from crappy tire... id sooner lay in the snow on christmas morning wearing boxer shorts and a t shirt, wrenching my own car than take it canadian tire.
as far as the toyota head replacement thing... where was it taken for the repairs?
you can buy a remanufactured 22r for less than 1500 last time i called around, so depending on labour costs, they may have rooked your friends.
and 200km later having troubles? id say go in, raise hell, and get it fixed.
but get a second and third estimate of what the repair costs should be. |
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| Mavrick |
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driving home on deerfoot at 130kph, a tire rolls past them
LOL. I've seen this happen, straight out in front of Canadian Tire, as my buddy pulled his T/A out of the shop with brand new tires and decided to test them. Great sideways smoke-show, and as it slid back into the lane the left rear tire fucked off past the car, up the rear bumper of the car in front of us, and then landed on a car that was three cars ahead. He got a free re-mount and balance, but the damage to the other car had to come out of his insurance. Bummer for him.
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as far as the toyota head replacement thing... where was it taken for the repairs?
Fountain Tire, where they know the head mechanic.
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you can buy a remanufactured 22r for less than 1500 last time i called around, so depending on labour costs, they may have rooked your friends.
I think they got charged about $1200 for the head, and the rest was labour to install it. Still seems crazy to me that they even had to replace the head at all, let alone at that kind of price. As Joe Peschi once said, "They fuck you at the drive-thru!".
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| sstuner |
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Originally posted by Mekanik22
Not all of us youngins bend truck frames and smash holes in gas tanks :) Pulling the ticket from the MECHANIC? I don't think that's right. Because technically he's isn't in charge of you. He is to a CERTAIN extent as far as safety goes, etc. But it's the employers or the service manager that is in charge.
hey when i said they can pull your ticket. i mean your mechanics license.
if there are enough complaints about a shop and "they" go and inspect it and find that there are alot of things wrong the shop can be shut down. i have seen it happen and it only took a phone call.
is it right??? absolutley. how would you like to be driving down the raod and your brakes dont work because the retard that repaired them didnt do it right.
i did find one thing that canadian tire is good for, garden hoses. they have thousands of them |
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| Hot_Wheelz |
Neon Edge,
I work at Kal Tire in Leduc. The name has "Tire" in it.. but i take pride in all the work i do.. Maybe it's because im starting my training to become an aircraft mechanic and I'm looking at wanting all my work to be 100%.. i dont know.. but even tho Kal Tire has "Tire" in the name feel safe bringing your car to us.. and if we DO Fuck something up.. we'll let you know NOW about it AND if its our fault we will fix it for free. I hope you'll still be ok with going to SOME "Tire" places :bthumbup: :bthumbup: |
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| TheNeonEdge |
What i really meant was any place with
"_______ian tire" and it was just a joke :dunno:
--ThE EdGe |
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| Mavrick |
I've never had a bad experience with Kal Tire so far, so I won't say anything bad about them. I have a few friends who have or still do work there, and I've always been happy with their work, and especially impressed with their honesty in NOT undertaking to do a repair that they were not knowledgeable with. Kal-Tire turned away a friend of mine telling him that they were not familiar with his Saab 900 Turbo, and that he would be better off to take it somewhere else.
Perhaps some people might be disappointed with a shop for telling them something like that, but I was impressed. You see, it's not about the opportunity to make some money, it's about knowing whether you can get the job done or not. Kudos to Kal-Tire for knowing their limitations, and making an intelligent decision.
As far as the '*Tire' analogy goes, it stands to reason that a company name reasonably reflects their expertise, and whereas a tire shop may have licensed mechanics, they may or may not have the knowledge to be able to work on your vehicle. Given the lower wages of such establishments, I have commonly found that striving professionals will move on to bigger and better things, whereas those with less ambition may choose to stay and try to make money however they can, even if it means being dishonest.
Of course, this is just my opinion, so if you don't like it, I know you'll let me know.
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Originally posted by Mavrick
I've never had a bad experience with Kal Tire so far, so I won't say anything bad about them. I have a few friends who have or still do work there, and I've always been happy with their work, and especially impressed with their honesty in NOT undertaking to do a repair that they were not knowledgeable with. Kal-Tire turned away a friend of mine telling him that they were not familiar with his Saab 900 Turbo, and that he would be better off to take it somewhere else.
Perhaps some people might be disappointed with a shop for telling them something like that, but I was impressed. You see, it's not about the opportunity to make some money, it's about knowing whether you can get the job done or not. Kudos to Kal-Tire for knowing their limitations, and making an intelligent decision.
As far as the '*Tire' analogy goes, it stands to reason that a company name reasonably reflects their expertise, and whereas a tire shop may have licensed mechanics, they may or may not have the knowledge to be able to work on your vehicle. Given the lower wages of such establishments, I have commonly found that striving professionals will move on to bigger and better things, whereas those with less ambition may choose to stay and try to make money however they can, even if it means being dishonest.
Of course, this is just my opinion, so if you don't like it, I know you'll let me know.
Mav.
I totally agree with this entire statement.
as i sit here with one of my co-workers, who is laughing his ass off about the truck incident, he is also in agreement.
if you cant do the job then dont do the job, either you dont have the proper tools, the proper parts or the proper knowledge then you should just stick to what you can do.
so it all boils down to this
" when in doubt-DONT"
i am impressed with Kal -tire and i have had no problems in my dealins with them at all. sure its a "tire" shop, but thats where the shopping around comes in.
and here are a few tricks for all you guys and gals,
1. word of mouth. if you hear something bad about a shop it might just be one time that it didnt go right, if you hear 2 things about the same shop its not very good. and i would look elsewhere. for example, canadian tire, i wont take my car there, i wont even go there for an oil change.
if you hear good things about a shop go check it out.
2. clean and tidy. i have found that a clean shop is a great indication of the type of mechanics that work there. if the shop is clean then they are clean and your car will be clean when it is finished, and i dont mean the outside. what ever they do to your ride it will look either factory or better.
just ask around , talk to friends or some one that you see on the street driving that same car as you. if they say go here or go there or dont ever go here,
hope this is helpful to you younger folks
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| Mekanik22 |
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Originally posted by sstuner
2. clean and tidy. i have found that a clean shop is a great indication of the type of mechanics that work there. if the shop is clean then they are clean and your car will be clean when it is finished, and i dont mean the outside. what ever they do to your ride it will look either factory or better.
Yes and No. Have you every stopped to think that maybe the company is up to their tits in jobs and don't have time to clean? Sure they'll grab a rag in a spare moment and wipe a few things off, but just because the shop is dirty doesn't indicate the mechanics are lazy and do shitty work. About the car, that I agree with. If I leave finger prints, I'll wipe them off. I use floor mats and seat covers and so on. But the shop is kinda an iffy. |
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| Mavrick |
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Have you every stopped to think that maybe the company is up to their tits in jobs and don't have time to clean?
No.
If the shop is that busy, then they can obviously afford to hire somebody for fuck-all per hour to clean. A single mechanic working his own shop by himself, I can understand being messy and can forgive that if he does good work. A big shop, no way.
If I have to fork out $50/hr or more for a shop to do work on my car, they need to show me that they are worth my money. A clean shop is just the beginning of a good impression.
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| sstuner |
i agree with mav
to an extent
in my shop you clean up after you are done. no mess laying around. when the job is done your space gets clean. no way around it. grease and oil on the floor is a safety hazard and the table/bench full of shit is a fire hazard.
if the shop is a shit pit then they dont give a shit.
shop is clean they care.
but its just the first thing that you see.
crappy tire is usually clean. and look at the great work that they are turning out every day minute of every day. |
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