| snugs |
I went in to see about that loud exhaust ticket I got a month ago and got to see the local Prosecutor. What an experience. The guy was overweight, balding, with what was left of his hair greased back on his scalp, and he was quite adamant that he didn't give a shit about me or the ticket, all he wanted was the money and a guilty plea.
He refused to answer most questions. He told me that he wasn't there when I was given the ticket, didn't know anything about what had happened and didn't care. When I asked him to define "Excessive" because it is not defined in the law, he said that it was something that is considered to be offensively loud by "some", so I asked him to define "some" because I wanted to know what I was dealing with here and he told me that he worked for the Crown and wasn't there to assist in my defense or understanding of the law or charges against me, either take a court date or pay up and be thankful I hadn't been ticketed for Stunting. :blink:
So for all of you guys out there that haven't met with a Crown Prosecutor here's a bit of info. He told me that I didn't understand his job, and I can honestly say that since this was the first time I had spoken to him I probably didn't fully understand it, although I do now.
His job is not to listen to you explain your case, it is not to answer your questions, it is not to even discuss the merits of the prosection of the case if the ticket was given in error. He doesn't care if the court's time is wasted with hearings for incorrect tickets, or tickets based on questionable judgements. His job is to get your money and he doesn't give a shit about anything else. He does not care how the cop acted, why you were ticketed, or the circumstances surrounding the ticket, he just wants the money so unless you want to plead guilty and try for a reduction I wouldn't even bother with seeing these guys. |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by snugs
His job is not to listen to you explain your case, it is not to answer your questions, it is not to even discuss the merits of the prosection of the case if the ticket was given in error. He doesn't care if the court's time is wasted with hearings for incorrect tickets, or tickets based on questionable judgements. His job is to get your money and he doesn't give a shit about anything else. He does not care how the cop acted, why you were ticketed, or the circumstances surrounding the ticket, he just wants the money so unless you want to plead guilty and try for a reduction I wouldn't even bother with seeing these guys.
His job is to prosecute the case - it's the judges job to listen to the case and determine whether the charges are fair.
Once he believes he has enough evidence, which is obvious because a police officer (Who is a trusted individual) says so, then he's done his job at seeing if he has just cause. After all, the opinion of a police officer is considered to be more valid than the accused (And for obvious reasons).
Don't people says there's a Justice of the Peace (JOP) that you can talk to as well about this before your court date? |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by TrevorK
Don't people says there's a Justice of the Peace (JOP) that you can talk to as well about this before your court date?
I asked him if there was someone else who you could actually discuss the merit of the case with before the trial..... but he wouldn't answer. :dunno: |
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| albertarc |
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Originally posted by TrevorK
Don't people says there's a Justice of the Peace (JOP) that you can talk to as well about this before your court date?
The Traffic Prosecutor at the First Appearance Centre is the only person to speak w/ prior to the Trial. Some people refer to this person as the JOP but really he is not. Once a Trial date has been set the accused can contact the actual Prosecutor that will be in charge of the case but usually he won't be able to add much more than the first Prosecutor.
Jimbo:blink: |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by albertarc
The Traffic Prosecutor at the First Appearance Centre is the only person to speak w/ prior to the Trial. Some people refer to this person as the JOP but really he is not. Once a Trial date has been set the accused can contact the actual Prosecutor that will be in charge of the case but usually he won't be able to add much more than the first Prosecutor.
Jimbo:blink:
Really? You wouldn't happen to know how we can get the name of the assigned Prosecutor or contact them?
I asked this guy whether there was any way I could discuss my other ticket with somebody because I can quantifiably prove that its prosecution is baseless and I was hoping to save the court some time, but he said that court sits all the time and that there was nobody else, just show up to court and hope your fines don't get increased. :blink: |
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| Mustard |
yeah i met the same guy....
Tons of Fun , he was.
It seems to me like Crown Prosecuter is the bitch job they give to the guy that screwed up big time on the last big case or something...:dunno: |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by Mustard
yeah i met the same guy....
LOL, the instant I laid eyes on the fellow I knew that it had to be the same guy you dealt with.
I have to give him credit though, he's the right man for the job. Surly, unhelpful, utterly indifferent to anything you might have to say, I would be willing to bet he's got a great record of bringing in guilty pleas and pushing the bills into the till. ;)
Apparently he owns a mustang.... and it doesn't make any noise at all (or so he told me). :rolleyes: |
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| Mekanik22 |
| Don't be like my co-worker's friend who went in to get something reduced and ended up calling him a "Crown Prostitutor". |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by Mekanik22
Don't be like my co-worker's friend who went in to get something reduced and ended up calling him a "Crown Prostitutor".
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