| Keith303 |
Big crackdown on whyte with vehicles with enlarged exhaust/loud stereos. I guess alot of bussiness down white have complained about this.
They also said they will crackdown on vehicle equpitment such as tint,lights etc. |
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| PraxRX7 |
hahahahahah
cause you know that the loud music from the clubs on Whyte at 2am doesn't bother anyone :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| snugs |
Yeah I just saw that, if your car is modded stay the hell away from whyte and its patroling revenue collectors unless you feel like paying some extra road tax. They are going for loud exhausts, enlarged tips, stereos, and any "illegal" mods that may catch the ticketer's discretionary eye. :rolleyes:
RANT TIME!
I'd just like to say that this is perhaps one of the most hypocritical and ignorant things that I've ever seen in this city. The Whyte Ave businesses go all summer long trying to draw in the patio crowds with their own loud stereos, they want to encourage lots of cruising and general drunken stupidity out on the street because they're making lots of money off of it. But now that the season is at an end and all the patios are winding down it is suddenly unacceptable to cruise in the area because the noise level is offensive. Give me a f*cking break.
How short are the cops on the new helicopter payments anyway that they can reasonably justify this with a straight face after turning a blind eye all summer long. :mad: |
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| RSN CRX |
| So I guess most people going to the UC meets will have to take a different route to avoid getting a ticket. Fucking pigs.:mad: |
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| Keith303 |
I bet if the exhaust was aftermarket, but the same/loudness as stock they would still give the ticket, cause anything thats bigger must have be louder and therefor illegal.
Now that this big crackdown is in order I bet they wont budge atall on the tickets, I bet they will be way more ignorant then they already are, not to mention all the cops down there are tryhards that are to inexperienced to do real police work and try and make aname for themselfs by seeing who can issue the most exhaust tickets...
Apperently the noise from the vehicles bounces off all the buildings and it gets magnified. Just another cash grab by the city if u ask me. |
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| penance |
quote:
Originally posted by snugs
Yeah I just saw that, if your car is modded stay the hell away from whyte and its patroling revenue collectors unless you feel like paying some extra road tax. They are going for loud exhausts, enlarged tips, stereos, and any "illegal" mods that may catch the ticketer's discretionary eye. :rolleyes:
RANT TIME!
I'd just like to say that this is perhaps one of the most hypocritical and ignorant things that I've ever seen in this city. The Whyte Ave businesses go all summer long trying to draw in the patio crowds with their own loud stereos, they want to encourage lots of cruising and general drunken stupidity out on the street because they're making lots of money off of it. But now that the season is at an end and all the patios are winding down it is suddenly unacceptable to cruise in the area because the noise level is offensive. Give me a f*cking break.
How short are the cops on the new helicopter payments anyway that they can reasonably justify this with a straight face after turning a blind eye all summer long. :mad:
Apparently they're targeting enlarged exhausts as one type of ticket (to get all of the tuner cars).... and a seperate ticket based on noise levels (to get all the harleys, musclecars)..... then they inspect the exterior to hand out any illegal modification tickets they can, to make us think twice about modifying our cars...
My favourite part of the whole exerpt on the news was the one cop telling the reporter how they don't use the decible readers because none have proven to be considerably accurate....
Then he goes on to say that they will be going by ear.... YEAH! cuz that'll be more accurate!! Hows that supposed to hold up in court... thats like being given a ticket by a cop who's just standing on the sidewalk (no radar detector) making rough guesses of peoples speed!?! |
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| BLK_LBL |
im sure most of you guys are kinda biased towards the tuners, but I suggest taking a step back and looking at the big picture.
has anyone actually stood on the sidewalk at funky pickle (for example) as cars go by? There are so many jackasses squealing their tires, reving their engines, and driving around with their stereos cranked listening to stupid sounding music.
It just gets to a point where u have to draw the line somewhere.
I used to have a fart can on my car. its got like a 97hp engine. The best thing I ever did to my car was replace the fart can with a stock muffler (after having it for 2 years)
now at school I dont set off peoples alarms in the parkade. Now I can idle my car outside late night in the winter without people complaining. I can drive around without people hearing me 2 blocks away.
Theres a good performance loud, and theres a bad stupid loud. I've seen and heard many trucks with flowmasters or magnaflow catback systems and they sound MINT.. then theres the hicks with cherry bombs, and thrush mufflers that sound absolutely stupid.
same thing goes with imports. I've heard and riden in a typeR with a spoon exhaust, and it sounds soo good. not too loud at idle, but Vtec it sounds like all hell broke loose. theres also lots more imports ive seen/heard that sound great, not too loud. And of course, then theres the stupid people that just throw on a fart can and there yah go. sounds like shit, but hey it was cheap at canadian tire
Im just saying there is a FINE line between having a good well-toned performance exhaust, and having a vehicle thats just stupid obnoxiously loud.
and lately there are WAY to many stupid loud vehicles around. It just so happens that on the weekends they flock to whyte ave to drive up and down the avenue with their music loud and revving their engines. |
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| RSN CRX |
Ya but this still means people that spent the extra money to get a good quiet performance exaust will still get a ticket just because its bigger the cops small dick. Why dont those cops just lay off and do what they do best.....
eat donuts. |
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| Keith303 |
while there puttin all this extra man power into this, they could actually being doing something usfull, like preventing real crimes.
Somone will end up dead because cops couldnt make it intime cause there to busy writing up exhaust tickets |
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| k_mac501 |
you know this is their bullshit answer to the recent car crashes and the slight rise in street racers.
fucking dumbasses |
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| CanadianR |
| I don't think you guys should be blaming the police officers themselves. I'm pretty sure they didn't get together and decide they wanted to be tightasses with modified cars. Someone or someones high up in the EPS decided this and then informed the cops that are on the street that they were gonna be doing this. The biggest problem i have is that these laws were made up by someone who knows nothing about cars and exhaust and expecting police officers who mostly also know nothing about the subject to try and enforce laws that they aren't equipped to accurately measure, aren't educated on, and aren't the least bit objective or sensible. Most police officers can't tell what is stock and non-stock-sized exhaust; only a hard-core enthusiast could tell on all vehicles. I have no problem with them issuing tickets for the obnoxiously loud cars out there (and there are a hell of alot these days) but they need an objective measurement to apply to everyone equally ie) decibal meters that work properly. Otherwise the law is pretty much just a witch-hunt. |
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| Keith303 |
| its fun to vent against them, its their descresion on what to ticket, I bet their being overly sensitve with the ticketing |
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| Altezza |
| this is why you get the muffler with a removable baffel and dont get a fattly tip i kept my stock tip and just have my muffler and cat upgraded not loud at idel and gives it a nice sound when you give the gas |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Honestly, after just getting pulled over because of my exhaust, I still think its stupid. I have a full cat-back exhaust WITH an 18" res AND a cat AND a Borla Muffler. If you know about exhausts, you know this is going to be very quite. But lo and behold, my exhaust is still louder than stock, simply because its a V6 and not a 4 banger. Wanna know what the cop said to me? he goes, " and that exhaust of yours is illegal, its not stock"..... walks to the back of the car.... " nope, it isnt stock, hear my car? no, you cant". So really, any mods to your exhaust, and a cop could pull you over for it. If that guy had given me a ticket, you can bet your ass id see him in court for it. |
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| Buddyworm |
Why aren't they acting to deter car theives instead of busting the chops 16 year olds who have 3" exhausts? Why not throw a bit of that money they've already made from f*cking people over into a bait car program like they have in some cities. All kinds of theft related to cars dropped like bricks once the program was in effect for a while.
B-Wurm :lol: |
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| silksheets |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Honestly, after just getting pulled over because of my exhaust, I still think its stupid. I have a full cat-back exhaust WITH an 18" res AND a cat AND a Borla Muffler. If you know about exhausts, you know this is going to be very quite. But lo and behold, my exhaust is still louder than stock, simply because its a V6 and not a 4 banger. Wanna know what the cop said to me? he goes, " and that exhaust of yours is illegal, its not stock"..... walks to the back of the car.... " nope, it isnt stock, hear my car? no, you cant". So really, any mods to your exhaust, and a cop could pull you over for it. If that guy had given me a ticket, you can bet your ass id see him in court for it.
wow, I cant believe I just read that. are you competent enough to put your pants on the right way in the morning?
Any car equiped with an aftermarket exaust is ILLEGAL!!!
I've heard a grand am with a borla, its far from quiet.
You would see him in court, and you would be found quilty very fast, and you just gave that cop x number of OT hours, and missed your chance to work x amount of hours to pay off your ticket.
Acting to deter car theives... how do you plan they do that? best way to deter a car theif is to not give hte theif a reason to break into your car.
The report never said anything about increasing manpower on white ave, only giving them something else to do instead of eat donuts.
As someone said, stand on white ave for a while, you can hardly talk with every other car sounding like a 90db sewing machine, and then the fools thinking a $9000 stereo where you can only hear the bass is going to pick up chicks and make everyone think they are cool while reving their engines.
I'm glad they are cracking down. maybe white ave wont seem like such a dive at night now. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Id like to see this. There are very few people who live in Canada with a Borla exhaust on a GA. All you can hear is a nice low rumble at low rpms and a sound that rivals small block V8's at medium rpms with a sound close to stock at high rpms. That is also coupled with a CAI which would also make your car sound much meaner than without it. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
quote:
Originally posted by silksheets
wow, I cant believe I just read that. are you competent enough to put your pants on the right way in the morning?
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Any car equiped with an aftermarket exaust is ILLEGAL!!!
I've heard a grand am with a borla, its far from quiet.
You would see him in court, and you would be found quilty very fast, and you just gave that cop x number of OT hours, and missed your chance to work x amount of hours to pay off your ticket.
Acting to deter car theives... how do you plan they do that? best way to deter a car theif is to not give hte theif a reason to break into your car.
The report never said anything about increasing manpower on white ave, only giving them something else to do instead of eat donuts.
As someone said, stand on white ave for a while, you can hardly talk with every other car sounding like a 90db sewing machine, and then the fools thinking a $9000 stereo where you can only hear the bass is going to pick up chicks and make everyone think they are cool while reving their engines.
I'm glad they are cracking down. maybe white ave wont seem like such a dive at night now. [/B][/QUOTE]
Part in huge and red.....
DUMBEST THING IVE EVER READ, are you competent enough to know the facts or the law before making stupid comments?
All that random shit going on on whyte ave is what makes it whyte ave...and fun? Have you ever even been down there on a friday or saturday night and seen all the stuff that goes on there?
And a dive? hardly. More people go to whyte to club and chill on the weekend than anywhere else.
I dont agree at all, no one will want to go to whyte anymore if all these stupid laws take place, the stores will generate less revenue and no one profits in the end.
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| penance |
Sorta wonder what the cops are thinkin??.....
I'd rather have a buncha loud inconsiderate kids cruisin up & down whyte all night, blarin their music & exhaust in an area that is always insanely busy/loud/noisy anyways
Rather than ticket the shit outta them, so instead of cruisin the strip for fun on the weekends (even tho they're lookin like complete losers).... they're all out street racing somewhere in town (possibly causing accidents/deaths)...
These whiney business owners should shut up, they setup shop there for a reason.... and must deal with the consequences |
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| REDX2NV |
quote:
Originally posted by BLK_LBL
im sure most of you guys are kinda biased towards the tuners, but I suggest taking a step back and looking at the big picture.
has anyone actually stood on the sidewalk at funky pickle (for example) as cars go by? There are so many jackasses squealing their tires, reving their engines, and driving around with their stereos cranked listening to stupid sounding music.
It just gets to a point where u have to draw the line somewhere.
I used to have a fart can on my car. its got like a 97hp engine. The best thing I ever did to my car was replace the fart can with a stock muffler (after having it for 2 years)
now at school I dont set off peoples alarms in the parkade. Now I can idle my car outside late night in the winter without people complaining. I can drive around without people hearing me 2 blocks away.
Theres a good performance loud, and theres a bad stupid loud. I've seen and heard many trucks with flowmasters or magnaflow catback systems and they sound MINT.. then theres the hicks with cherry bombs, and thrush mufflers that sound absolutely stupid.
same thing goes with imports. I've heard and riden in a typeR with a spoon exhaust, and it sounds soo good. not too loud at idle, but Vtec it sounds like all hell broke loose. theres also lots more imports ive seen/heard that sound great, not too loud. And of course, then theres the stupid people that just throw on a fart can and there yah go. sounds like shit, but hey it was cheap at canadian tire
Im just saying there is a FINE line between having a good well-toned performance exhaust, and having a vehicle thats just stupid obnoxiously loud.
and lately there are WAY to many stupid loud vehicles around. It just so happens that on the weekends they flock to whyte ave to drive up and down the avenue with their music loud and revving their engines.
Heh, it was Mugen Twinloop exhaust, spoon sounds like crap IMO. Yea, i have a testpipe, in there too and still quiet as stock. |
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| 1mns13 |
quote:
Originally posted by silksheets
I've heard a grand am with a borla, its far from quiet.
You would see him in court, and you would be found quilty very fast, and you just gave that cop x number of OT hours, and missed your chance to work x amount of hours to pay off your ticket.
Acting to deter car theives... how do you plan they do that? best way to deter a car theif is to not give hte theif a reason to break into your car.
I'm glad they are cracking down. maybe white ave wont seem like such a dive at night now.
I don't frequent whyte ave, nor do I consider it a dive. Sir, I recommend getting a car to drive rather than somebody else's mom to ride, it will help you understand driving in the Edmonton area. If you think your idea is a good deterrent to thieves, you probably have nothing and live in a shack. The best way to deter people from breaking any law is to provide sufficient punishment. Fighting a ticket is the only way to get a fair trial. We canadians believe in innocent till proven guilty. Where are you from? |
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| mwdguy |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Honestly, after just getting pulled over because of my exhaust, I still think its stupid. I have a full cat-back exhaust WITH an 18" res AND a cat AND a Borla Muffler. If you know about exhausts, you know this is going to be very quite. But lo and behold, my exhaust is still louder than stock, simply because its a V6 and not a 4 banger. Wanna know what the cop said to me? he goes, " and that exhaust of yours is illegal, its not stock"..... walks to the back of the car.... " nope, it isnt stock, hear my car? no, you cant". So really, any mods to your exhaust, and a cop could pull you over for it. If that guy had given me a ticket, you can bet your ass id see him in court for it.
Yeah ... but you were driving with your underbodies on werent you |
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| gillAteen |
quote:
Part in huge and red.....
DUMBEST THING IVE EVER READ, are you competent enough to know the facts or the law before making stupid comments?
Yeah, and that guy says the grandam guy can't put his pants on??
There is nothing whatsoever in the traffic act stating that 'any aftermarket exhaust is illegal'
Please don't bash other people when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
And i'd hate to be on Whyte if it wasn't exciting and loud, although i will acknowledge you having the right to your own opinion that you would like to see it be for pansies who can't handle some noise or excitement on the strip......... |
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| silksheets |
quote:
Originally posted by TheNeonEdge
Any car equiped with an aftermarket exaust is ILLEGAL!!! [/COLOR]
--ThE EdGe [/QUOTE]
"61(1) A motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine
must have an exhaust muffler that is cooling and expelling the
exhaust gases from the engine without excessive noise and without
producing flames or sparks.
(2) A person shall not drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled
by an internal combustion engine if the exhaust outlet of the
muffler has been widened.
(3) A person shall not drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled
by an internal combustion engine if a device is attached to the
exhaust system or the muffler that increases the noise made by the
expulsion of gases from the engine or allows a flame to be ignited
from the exhaust system."
Taken from Alberta Queen's Printer.
http://www.qp.gov.ab.ca/documents/R...isbn=0779717090
well thats every aftermarket exhaust, I should have said thats not a factory replacment. but forgot to add that part.
I have heard a grand am with borla's, a res, and a cat. It was silver and had blue neon lights under it. I was beside you for a couple lights and behind you for a bit, and at every point of the rpm range, you are conciderably louder then a stock grand am.
I did sound not to bad, but it would never be mistaken for a V8.
I do have a car, I jsut dont drive like a dick and have more into my stereo then my car like some people. |
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| SplineZ |
i cant believe some high up officer thought it'd be nessisary to crack down on modified cars that arent doing anything wrong.. Speeding? Go for it.. Stunting? go for it.. illegal tint? go for it...
Just because a muffler/exhaust has a large tip on it, doesnt mean its modified.. nor loud.. It endangers no one, and does no harm.
besides.. how would your regular average joe cop going to know if your car came stock with a 2.5-3" exhaust from the factory?
My yellow car has 4 3" tips... from the factory.... is the cop going to know that ALL Fiero GT's, and 2m6's came with factory quad 3" tips? or that the 4cyls came with dual 3" tips? Or that the new STI's have 3" exhaust now too?
its rediculous...
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| 95IntegraRS |
| SRT-4 is another good one to which cops would probably give noise violations to even though their exhaust is just loud stock. |
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| SplineZ |
and im 100% sure that car companies arent releasing cars in canada that are illegal RIGHT off the floor..
James Z |
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| Keith303 |
| SRT-4s dont even have mufflers, to me thats way more illegal then a aftermarket exhaust |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| I'm not saying they are illegal, I'm saying they are loud stock. A stock SRT-4 probably has a louder exhaust then the modified one on my Integra. Therefore, they could be targets for noise violations even though thats how they are stock. |
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| silksheets |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
I'm not saying they are illegal, I'm saying they are loud stock. A stock SRT-4 probably has a louder exhaust then the modified one on my Integra. Therefore, they could be targets for noise violations even though thats how they are stock.
noise violations are based off a DB rating, an exhaust violation is based off having a none factory exhaust.
I've heard the SRT-4, and its loud, but I havent heard many tegs with an exhaust that are quieter. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Thanks for stating the obvious fuckface. God, people who have or are training to be in the Special fuckin Olympics shouldn't be allowed a membership on this board. And if you ask anyone, they will tell you my aftermarket exhaust isn't very loud. |
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| BLK_LBL |
quote:
Originally posted by REDX2NV
Heh, it was Mugen Twinloop exhaust, spoon sounds like crap IMO. Yea, i have a testpipe, in there too and still quiet as stock.
I was really stoned when I posted that.
i dont even remember typing all that stuff hahaha
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All you can hear is a nice low rumble at low rpms and a sound that rivals small block V8's at medium rpms with a sound close to stock at high rpms
hahaha did u cut and paste that out of a catalogue or something |
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| Keith303 |
rofl, I know all to wellquote:
was really stoned when I posted that.
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| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by silksheets
noise violations are based off a DB rating, an exhaust violation is based off having a none factory exhaust.
I've heard the SRT-4, and its loud, but I havent heard many tegs with an exhaust that are quieter.
LOL, there is an old adage that applies perfectly to you and it goes something like this.
"Better to remain silent and let the world think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Aftermarket exhausts are not illegal , and the city's laws are not based on any sort of DB rating. If you even bothered to read and understand the section of the VER you posted (61(1)) you would know this. :D |
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| dsl55 |
| I didn't read all the posts, but if they go by ear you can beat it in court, cause how can a human ear decide whats 134 db's and whats 165 dbs. As for the tips, isn't there a max width you can upgrade it to so that it's within legal specs? |
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| IDTrav |
| its another cash cow for cops, good point on the helicopter. people go down to whyte because its loud, entertaining and lots of different things going on. the atmosphere wouldn't be the same if it weren't for the loud stereo's, nice cars and crazy drunks running around. |
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| dsl55 |
| Next May it'll be back to normal enforcement. |
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| Pro Drag |
Let them crack down on cruising again.
Whyte Ave will then suffer the fate of Jasper Ave. It will die off, just as Jasper Ave did. When are the stuffed shirts in power going to realize that you DON'T WANT TO DRIVE TRAFFIC AWAY from popular areas.
Ticket the IDIOTS, not the enthusiasts. For the most part there is a HUGE difference between the two. |
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| TheNeonEdge |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Let them crack down on cruising again.
Whyte Ave will then suffer the fate of Jasper Ave. It will die off, just as Jasper Ave did. When are the stuffed shirts in power going to realize that you DON'T WANT TO DRIVE TRAFFIC AWAY from popular areas.
Ticket the IDIOTS, not the enthusiasts. For the most part there is a HUGE difference between the two.
totally agree, the business's wil end up losing business because whyte wont be the fun "whyte" it always is. It will then turn into a dive. and people will strat cruising by west ed, the other hot spot for bars.
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| n0c7 |
| I was heading to whyte tonight, now after hearing this I won't be going there with my eclipse for awhile. But if you do see me down there and I'm pulled over, wave! :beer: |
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| colossus |
| Holy crap what a gauntlet. Cops stood in the middle of the road pulling peeps over. One guy had his trunk searched. Fart cannons do sound gay, especially when some fool is flooring it at 2am. But what really needs cracking down is the earsplitting harleys. They're far worse. And noise does not make them more visible. Sound travels too slow to prevent accidents. Driving smart and wearing bright colours is more effective. P.S. Anyone notice all the bikers riding out with Hells Angels colours in the open? What's happening? |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
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All you can hear is a nice low rumble at low rpms and a sound that rivals small block V8's at medium rpms with a sound close to stock at high rpms
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hahaha did u cut and paste that out of a catalogue or something
Have you heard of a small block V8 with a stock exhuast? Hell if you want, just go out to the street and listen to a 5.0L, you will notice that they sound quite similar. Second, factor in also a CAI, which also makes the exhaust louder. Thats my .02 and I do believe thats how my car sounds, considering I drive it everyday. Also, high rpms are very close to stock (5K+), which is a great advantage because it doesnt get too loud at those rpms. |
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| MeXx |
| this is the biggest bunch of shit ever like fuck all the clubs are just as loud as us if not louder and theres drunk people runing around all over the road fuck this just pisses me off. Like fuck dont they have anything better to do. Christ why dont they go patrol millwoods and try and stop the drive by shootings or do some real cops work. Im not going to change anything i dont give a fuck if i get a ticket add it to the list. |
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| n0c7 |
| Well I happened to go down whyte anyway with orangeteg and they were definitely nailing people, but we didnt get bothered :dunno: Must be the turbos that are keeping are cars quiet, but we both saw a low rider truck with altezzas getting nailed. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| What do they want? Really? Whyte ave is a bar/crusing strip. Its where everyone goes on friday/sat nights and because of that, they should respect that. If they wanna crack down and be asses, fine, we will just find another spot to cruise. Personally it pisses me off that they crack down on us yet leave the bikers alone. Have you seen the cops pull a large troop of them over for their super loud exhausts? I sure as hell havent and it just gives me another reason to not like cops. Sure, some of them are great, but its things like this that really sour it for most. |
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| TrevorK |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Ticket the IDIOTS, not the enthusiasts. For the most part there is a HUGE difference between the two.
Typically, they seem to give tickets to the idiots.
I've seen it before, I'll drive responsibly with my cutout wide open in my Z28, never a hassle. Will even have cops drive by me, without a hassle.
I've cruised around with cars that are obviously not street legal on a way to a meet, none of us ever got pulled over or bothered. |
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| 1mns13 |
quote:
Originally posted by colossus
Holy crap what a gauntlet. Cops stood in the middle of the road pulling peeps over. One guy had his trunk searched. Fart cannons do sound gay, especially when some fool is flooring it at 2am. But what really needs cracking down is the earsplitting harleys. They're far worse. And noise does not make them more visible. Sound travels too slow to prevent accidents. Driving smart and wearing bright colours is more effective. P.S. Anyone notice all the bikers riding out with Hells Angels colours in the open? What's happening?
I agree. "What's happening" nothing at all, that the cops will do anything about. |
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| redbaron303 |
I'm sorry, I don't feel a crack down of this form is needed. I honestly think they could be putting their manpower to better use.... maybe prevent street violence or something instead of handing out muffler tickets.... we all know that the oversized tip will kill someone.... when it shoots the cantaloupe out, but till then~!?
Maybe this will create more profit for the PD, maybe it will reduce "distraction" related deaths while driving.... maybe it will increase harassment to the import crowd (maybe the domestic guys running open headers?), who knows.
I heard about it on the weekend and knew 3 ppl that got pulled over (although the ones car is super loud) the others weren't. This is frustrating to me thinking of better ways they could use additional police on whyte vs how they've chosen to do it. I'll finish with saying, "thanks for stock exhaust" ;) |
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| midnite |
quote:
(61)(3) A person shall not drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled
by an internal combustion engine if a device is attached to the
exhaust system or the muffler that increases the noise made by the
expulsion of gases from the engine or allows a flame to be ignited
from the exhaust system.
This means it's illegal to have an aftermarket header and high flow cat, even if you keep the stock muffler and exhaust tip? |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| Damn, just because my car shoots flames means its illegle? Meh oh well. Until i get busted for it, Let the flames be thrown!:bthumbup: :beer: |
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| redbaron303 |
quote:
Originally posted by midnite
This means it's illegal to have an aftermarket header and high flow cat, even if you keep the stock muffler and exhaust tip?
They would need to check underneath the car for that.... I think it'd waste their time if you have a stock appearing exhaust system. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| The cops are just looking to turn a quick profit. Photo radar, red-light cameras, exhaust tickets, noise violations, all are a way to turn a quick profit. What does photo-radar prevent? Nothing, I get a photo-ticket, I laugh. Wow, a tiny fine and no demerits, sweet. Red-light cameras, they aren't really preventing people from running redlights and I never knew redlight running was an issue in this city. The only time I ever see a redlight camera doing anything is in the winter when people can't stop and guess what? They get a redlight ticket. Exhaust, there isn't really a parameter to which police are following so they are given free-rein to ignore Harley's and trucks and musclecars and give shit to the import cars. Awesome! And noise violations, again no parameters so they are allowed to go nuts and do whatever the fuck they want. The cops will always try and turn a quick profit. So I just say fuck them, try and keep away as best as possible, and if I get a ticket, well thats the way lifes feeding em to me and you just have to go on with life. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by colossus
P.S. Anyone notice all the bikers riding out with Hells Angels colours in the open? What's happening?
LOL, you have to love the blatant double standard eh. Cops are people too and they know that if they start shit with guys rolling colors then something bad is a lot more likely to happen to them than if they pick on some kids or law abiding enthusiasts who aren't going to come back later and find them. |
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| 2003specv |
Holy crap was it bad last night. Not just Old Strath, all over town. Cops cops and more cops. I've driven Whitemud a million times and I've never seen cops hidden off to the side waiting to catch something. No radar either (my Cobra didn't make a sound) just eyeballing all the cars going by.
I thought I was in Fort Mac LOL. |
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| izzy |
I dont know if this is a stupid or ignorant idea but:
What if most people decided to fight their tickets, would the courts be overflowing? If a cop had to show up for court so many times a week, would the EPS ease up on the ticketing? |
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