| Jezz |
| I've got a 92 Prelude SR, with the 2.4L DOHC, just wondering what size/make of turbo I should put on it? |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| How much power do you want? Do you want to upgrade the bottom end or leave it stock? How much money do you have to spend? Do you know all the costs associated with a turbo? |
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| 2003specv |
| 2.4 in a 92 lude???????? |
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| se-i |
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Originally posted by 2003specv
2.4 in a 92 lude????????
thats what i'm saying |
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| CanadianSkyline |
| Its gonna be a 2.3 Litre H23 if he's got an SR. Go to a performance shop...they'll ask all the questions that you didnt give us answers to in your post. When considering a turbo...we need to know how much power you want to be running, which will determine what aditional mods you will need. If your keeping everything else stock i wouldnt recomend more than 6 PSI of boost....maybe less....due to fuel issues....which doesnt require much of a turbo. If you want 400 HP, you need a larger turbo...and tons of other mods...from what you've told us we dont know what you want. |
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| buh_buh |
| its not about how much psi you run, because that will vary from turbo to turbo. Instead you should be considering how much power you want to make. 15psi on a small turbo can make the same power as 7psi on a big turbo and be pushing the same amount of air. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Yea, but if he wants to keep his bottom end intact, hes not gonna be running anywhere near 15 pounds of boost unless he does a rebuild. In any case, no response. Still waiting... |
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| 1_Bar |
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Originally posted by buh_buh
its not about how much psi you run, because that will vary from turbo to turbo. Instead you should be considering how much power you want to make. 15psi on a small turbo can make the same power as 7psi on a big turbo and be pushing the same amount of air.
I agree...the question is CFM. Having a power goal will ultimatley decide on what turbo you want to get. 7psi on a little t25 vs. 7psi on a t3 will give you way different power.
15psi is high for hondas, especially for an h-series motor. But there's a guy on honda-tech, firedrake running 10+psi on a daily driver with stock internals (on h22 motor). Its all about tuning though....be expected to spend a lot of time on the dyno if you want a reliable turbo car.
For a setup I'd go for at least a t3 turbo with an intercooler. Fuel upgrades, larger injectors, fuel rail, FPR, fuel pump and a good stand alone like hondata. You can't just expect to stick on a turbo and insta-power!! |
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| Jezz |
Yah, 2.4 was a typo, its a 2.3
I'm looking at keeping the car mainly stock, but I do understand that some things can't be avoided. I'd like to keep it cost efficient with maybe around 75 to 100hp gain. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Get a manifold, 14b turbo off an eclipse, 1G talon side mount, 12:1 FMU, larger injectors, a new fuel pump, some vacuum and oil feed lines and you're pretty much set to go. Oh and you probably want to do the exhaust while you're at it. I think that about covers it, that'll run you at 9psi with the stock 14b spring, should be fairly easy to tune with properly sized injectors and the larger pump. |
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| 1_Bar |
well if your gonna get the 14b turbo, a lot of h23 ludes run this, you can also use the stock talon/eclipse manifold, just need to re-drill the head studs.
You'll also need a good standalone!! This is key!! |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Uh negative. That'll push your cost. A 12:1 fuel management unit (basically an inline fuel regulator) will be good enough for this setup. Standalone is for when you are pushing SERIOUS power. |
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| 1_Bar |
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
Uh negative. That'll push your cost. A 12:1 fuel management unit (basically an inline fuel regulator) will be good enough for this setup. Standalone is for when you are pushing SERIOUS power.
Standalone's for any block coming n/a from factory and turboing it after are pretty much key in order to have a daily driver IMO. I mean there's only so much you can tune with that FMU. Its like saying a SAFC will cover the tuning....it won't. Standalone's are great regaurdless of what power your pushing, stock 5th gen ludes can make like 160hp to the wheels tuned right...
Spend the extra money for a standalone, get that thing on a dyno and you'll thank me later for your block not blowing up soon after the turbo install. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| I don't disagree. I'm just saying, that price-wise it doesn't really make sense. Spend 1000 on turbo parts for everything to run and another 1000+ for fuel management. I mean, even a chipped ECU would be good enough. |
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| 1_Bar |
price wise it does make sense to get a standalone. It will definatley reduce the risk of blowing your motor. I mean $1000 now, or $4000 later when you're looking for another h23 block/head??
Well you can get uberdata for about 1/2 the price of a hondata.....but this is something I'd definatley not skimp out on. |
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| buh_buh |
Like I said earlier, its not about psi.
I could run 15psi on a T3 on my car and make less power than I do now at 12psi (which I run daily). It is all about tuning. I have had no reliability issues, and I have been running stock block at this power level for a year and a half.
And if your concerned about price of a standalone, get Uberdata. Its free and its just as good if not even better than Hondata. |
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