| Insomniac |
Cars must be from Alberta, time must be from Alberta track. Be sure to include screen name or real name, make, model, year, ET, MPH, and track.
This list is going to have to be monitored by all of us, if you see someone posting BS, call it! If you want to verify someone's submission, say so.
1. Sleeper, Honda Civic Si, (92), 11.84 @121 (Bud Park)
2. DarrylBleau, Eagle Talon (?), 11.96@116.11 , (Bud Park)
3. THEONE, Eagle Talon, (97), 12.0@120+ (Bud Park)
4. Zippy's / Pro Drag Performance, Honda Civic (88) 12.257 @118.63 (Bud Park)
5. Leon Bellavance, Chrysler Daytona (87), 12.3@114 (Race City)
6. Apex, Dodge SRT-4, (03), 12.3@110 (Bud Park)
7. Rob K, Dodge Daytona, (89), 12.403 @ 109.43 (Bud Park)
8. Midtown Import, Honda CRX, (88), 12.564 ET @ 112.79 mph (Bud Park)
9. talont, Eagle Talon, (93), 12.599 @ 108.98 (Bud Park)
10. Midtown Import, Honda Civic, (89), 12.6@111 (Bud Park).
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| MightyMidget |
<------, 2000 Suzuki SV650S, 12.5@105mph (budpark)
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| Insomniac |
Official List: "2004 Top 10 Imports/scc Cars "
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| MightyMidget |
yeah I saw that SO WHAT!!!! :p :blink: just think of it as a VERY SCC ;)
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| Inzane |
Yesterday, at BOI (during time trials):
Inzane, Nissan 300ZXTT, (93), 12.9@106.6mph (Bud Park).
(I'm hoping to get out again soon with more practice. That slip of mine shows I was already 87mph at the 1/8 mile trap which suggests I should've been higher at the 1/4 mark. I think I grinded a gear or something at the top end. If I get a better slip in the near future, I'll update my info to you.)
In addition to myself, at BOI yesterday there was:
- the black Shelby that ran 12.65 @ ?? (from Pro Drag)
- Ron of course (97 Talon), best pass of 12.03 @ 122 (I think)
- Steve (Talont), 12.4-12.6 I think...
You'll have to get their confirmations to fill in the blanks.
I think that was it for sub-13.5 imports if I recall correctly. I'm not sure what the white Colt in Pro Outlaw ran.
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| Kirill |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Yesterday, at BOI (during time trials):
Inzane, Nissan 300ZXTT, (93), 12.9@106.6mph (Bud Park).
(I'm hoping to get out again soon with more practice. That slip of mine shows I was already 87mph at the 1/8 mile trap which suggests I should've been higher at the 1/4 mark. I think I grinded a gear or something at the top end. If I get a better slip in the near future, I'll update my info to you.)
In addition to myself, at BOI yesterday there was:
- the black Shelby that ran 12.65 @ ?? (from Pro Drag)
- Ron of course (97 Talon), best pass of 12.03 @ 122 (I think)
- Steve (Talont), 12.4-12.6 I think...
You'll have to get their confirmations to fill in the blanks.
I think that was it for sub-13.5 imports if I recall correctly. I'm not sure what the white Colt in Pro Outlaw ran.
12.65@110 mph |
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| ehos |
SHANE CONSTANT 10.866 122.79 65 BEETLE 2332 TURBO 6/04/2004
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| Insomniac |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
SHANE CONSTANT 10.866 122.79 65 BEETLE 2332 TURBO 6/04/2004
:)
Proof? |
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
SHANE CONSTANT 10.866 122.79 65 BEETLE 2332 TURBO 6/04/2004
:)
In Alberta? |
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| v8slayer |
Mark 11.6 @ 120 mph
Green Talon |
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| TrevorK |
No offense to Ron intended - but did he run the 11.3 this race season? I coulda swore he ran that last year....
Not a flame, just a comment... |
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| Pro Drag |
One suggestion.
Since every sanctioning body requires a "backup" pass within 10% on the same day, should we also include that into our criteria?
This would eliminate kamikaze runs that sacrifice reliability and common sense in general just to make the list.
So far everybody mentioned has backed up their passes, this would be for future reference. |
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| ehos |
| Where's the proof for the other posters since we're asking? |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
http://www.members.shaw.ca/jamcind/interest.htm
It doesn't say Alberta anywhere. But, FYI he's from BC.
Yep, as per your link:
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All cars must be street licensed in BC and driven on the street. Yearly insurance is not necessary, permits are permitted. Proof of insurance may be requested. *Special entry may be allowed to cars outside of BC with participants consent*
And if the run was not done in Calgary or Edmonton then that disqualifies it from being on our list. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
No offense to Ron intended - but did he run the 11.3 this race season? I coulda swore he ran that last year....
Not a flame, just a comment...
Look closer at Insomniac's post. ".eg" typically means example.
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| drastik |
| don't forget about the ninja team from midtown :) |
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| ehos |
Where can I see the 'rules' for this top list?
Just curious. Is there a website?? |
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| Ninja III |
quote:
Originally posted by drastik
don't forget about the ninja team from midtown :)
The 1988 CRX, first time out this year posted a 12.9 @ 109 mph, and the Bue 1989 Civic posted so far 13.2 @ 110 mph. We'll see this Friday(25th of June) if we can get the CRX down the track a little faster. See you guys out at the track.
Stewart
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| Praylewd powr |
I definately like the idea of running two close times rather than one "all out" time. Consistency is worth applauding too....
Duane. |
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| Insomniac |
The rules are... Import or SCC car, from Alberta, on an AB track, in the year of 2004. I'd love to make sure people backed up their passes, but it's too hard to police, so I'll have to make do one pass.
About Mark and Steve (Talon's), please find the exact times, or even have the owners pipe up in this thread, and I'll add them. |
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| drastik |
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja III
The 1988 CRX, first time out this year posted a 12.9 @ 109 mph, and the Bue 1989 Civic posted so far 13.2 @ 110 mph. We'll see this Friday(25th of June) if we can get the CRX down the track a little faster. See you guys out at the track.
Stewart
:)
Hey man .. I was hoping you'd pipe up and show em the lil honda's can go fast too :) |
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| ehos |
A Dodge Daytona is on your Import/SCC list?
quote:
2. Rob K, Dodge Daytona , (89), 12.9@109 (Bud Park)
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| Ninja III |
quote:
Originally posted by drastik
Hey man .. I was hoping you'd pipe up and show em the lil honda's can go fast too :)
We can only try, the cars at most times have a mind of its own. |
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by Insomniac
The rules are... Import or SCC car, from Alberta, on an AB track, in the year of 2004. I'd love to make sure people backed up their passes, but it's too hard to police, so I'll have to make do one pass.
About Mark and Steve (Talon's), please find the exact times, or even have the owners pipe up in this thread, and I'll add them.
How is it too hard to police?
There is ALWAYS more than one credible witness at the track to watch both passes. Failing that, KEEP your timeslip, we live in the technology era, EVERYBODY has SOME means of getting their timeslip posted onto the 'net for proof.
I will notify Steve to swing by here and verify his actual e.t. and MPH. |
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| talont |
At the Shootout I ran a best of 12.599 @ 108.98 and backed it up with a 12.631 @ 110.11
Thanks,
Steven. |
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| MrMullet |
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer
Mark 11.6 @ 120 mph
Green Talon
Yeah why the hell is THEONE on this years list when that guy Mark ran 11.6 THIS year? Even though Mark seems to be a bit of a knob gobbler he still has the best time this year! That means that "THEONE" is actually "THE SECOND ONE". Whats up boys? I heard that he's got almost 1200hp |
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| ehos |
Again, why is there a DODGE DAYTONA on the list?
That ain't no import (in my best redneck voice). |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
Again, why is there a DODGE DAYTONA on the list?
That ain't no import (in my best redneck voice).
Where have you been? V8Less and 780tuners includes domestic sport compact cars in their turf... events like SCC allow cars like Ford Focus, Cavalier/Sunfire, Neon, etc. as well as the Japanese and European sport compact cars to participate.
The Daytona is pretty much a sport compact car, its an overhead cam engine, and if I'm not mistaken it probably has some Mitsubishi parts on it as well (I don't know my Chrysler/Mitsubishi history too well).
You obviously haven't been around here too long to bring this issue up. Its been hashed again and again. |
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| se-i |
quote:
Originally posted by MrMullet
Yeah why the hell is THEONE on this years list when that guy Mark ran 11.6 THIS year? Even though Mark seems to be a bit of a knob gobbler he still has the best time this year! That means that "THEONE" is actually "THE SECOND ONE". Whats up boys? I heard that he's got almost 1200hp
1200hp?Try no more then 700hp with n2o.And I think after some tunning you will see some better times to come this year.I think.
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| Insomniac |
quote:
Originally posted by MrMullet
Yeah why the hell is THEONE on this years list when that guy Mark ran 11.6 THIS year? Even though Mark seems to be a bit of a knob gobbler he still has the best time this year! That means that "THEONE" is actually "THE SECOND ONE". Whats up boys? I heard that he's got almost 1200hp
If Mark wants to chime in with proof, we can put him on the list. |
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| Pro Drag |
Here's another submission from the Pro Drag Team:
Darryl B. '91 Talon TSi - 12.83@105.04 (Bud Park) |
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| snugs |
| Do I qualify as SCC? :fingersx: |
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| DarrylBleau |
Decided to check out the infamous 780tuners forums. Though I hear the nacdsm.org forums are waaay cooler. Though I might be biased for some reason... nothing to do with running the nacdsm forums, I'm sure :)
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Here's another submission from the Pro Drag Team:
Darryl B. '91 Talon TSi - 12.83@105.04 (Bud Park)
But hey, looks like someone had my back over here anyway. Thanks Blaine :).
Here's my timeslips:
http://www.nacdsm.org/gallery/CarMods2/DSC01043
Note the 12.833 was backed up by a 12.895. And the 14.2 which you can barely make out, if you're wondering, was ran with my rear axle sheared off in the diff (so basically I ran that one FWD).
This Friday, I hope to run better with a bunch of new toys installed. Maybe 11 or even 10. Oh I'm not talking about ET, BTW, I'm talking about TTHGB. (Time To Head Gasket Burst). |
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| Ninja III |
Friday August 13th street legal -Bud park
Midtown Import Performance:
1989 Honda Civic=current 8th place on list ran 12.6 @ 111mph
1987 Honda CRX 13.44 @ 106mph
Regards
Ninja III
Midtown Import Performance |
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| Insomniac |
| Updated, TTHGB LOL |
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| Inzane |
Hmmm... .pretty soon we're going to need TWO top 10 lists... one for the private citizens that fund their project solely from their own pockets, and the other list for shop-sponsored and/or business-related tax-deductable (wholly or partially) cars.
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| Insomniac |
Funny you mention that since most of the shop built cars have less money in them than a car like your own..
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Insomniac
Funny you mention that since most of the shop built cars have less money in them than a car like your own..
Well if you are talking about the price of the car/platform foundation to start off with (eg. cost of a Z32 vs. a Civic or Talon, etc.) that might be true. But in terms of power mods I have relatively little. My engine is still stock and never been opened, my turbos are stock, and my entire fuel system is stock.
But what does that have to do with my comment? All you've done is point out that I have an expensive car.... no shit, a Z32 is an expensive car to buy and maintain. So what?
[In terms of what the other cars on the list have, I have no idea. The only two cars I'm somewhat familiar with are Ron's Talon, 'cause I've raced and pitted along side him a couple times, and Rage's 944T (seen his posts over the years on other sites). And there's no way I have anywhere close to the money those two guys have in their cars. But again, that's beside the point.]
You could argue that starting off with a higher performing platform is an advantage. Sure. But someone could also argue that starting off with a cheaper platform might be an advantage too. Or a car that was built by a shop instead of a person is an advantage. Or a car that was partially or wholly written off at tax time because of a business is an advantage. And so on. |
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| Pro Drag |
Let's run a "claimer" series then.
$7500 will claim any of the top 3 fastest sport compacts in Alberta.
We have been offering the Sivik up for sale for $5000 in the offseason for the past two years.
I don't see any series in motorsport that splits up classes between "shop" and "independant". Why should we play by a different set of rules? |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
I don't see any series in motorsport that splits up classes between "shop" and "independant". Why should we play by a different set of rules?
Good point. I wasn't proposing anything btw, just making conversation. (with a smiley)
I was just wondering, what happens if/when the entire list gets stacked with "shop" cars only? I guess one possible answer is: nothing at all. |
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| Ninja III |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Good point. I wasn't proposing anything btw, just making conversation. (with a smiley)
I was just wondering, what happens if/when the entire list gets stacked with "shop" cars only? I guess one possible answer is: nothing at all.
Hey guys
If it's that big of a deal about shop cars and independent cars being on the list, then you can take Midtown Import's listing off.
We were introduced to the forum by some of our loyal customers that thought we could help support the Import Scene in Edmonton.
I am very impressed by the creativity and knowledge many of the guys/gals on the forum have on cars etc...
I would like to see us be a part of all this, but if the member and forum are really against shops having their cars posted on this list, then I'll ask for our to come off first. :)
Good times racing.... Always
Stewart Sim
Ninja III |
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| Insomniac |
It's just a list, and is just for fun...
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| Praylewd powr |
Agreed.....it is just a list. And if Midtown can run a time like that consistently (which they usually do) then more power to them.
I just want to get on the list......the second independent list though!:bthumbup: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja III
Hey guys
If it's that big of a deal about shop cars and independent cars being on the list, then you can take Midtown Import's listing off.
We were introduced to the forum by some of our loyal customers that thought we could help support the Import Scene in Edmonton.
I am very impressed by the creativity and knowledge many of the guys/gals on the forum have on cars etc...
I would like to see us be a part of all this, but if the member and forum are really against shops having their cars posted on this list, then I'll ask for our to come off first. :)
Good times racing.... Always
Stewart Sim
Ninja III
Hey I'm sorry if my comments were misunderstood. I have nothing against shops and you guys definately deserve to be on the list with the times you're running.
I was just speculating on whether there was any merit in distinguishing between individuals' accomplishments and shops' accomplishments. Based on the majority of negative posts that came after mine, it looks like there isn't so I'll just drop the subject. No worries...
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| Ninja III |
It's all good. We're just out to have a good time on the track. And cheers to anyone who can consistantly run good times.
Regards
Stewart Sim
Ninja III:) |
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| Pro Drag |
UPDATES FROM AUG 20, 2004 Street Legals:
Zippy's / Pro Drag Performance 88 Sivik (season debut, running Hondata) 12.257 @ 118.63
Rob K Daytona 12.661 @ 107.13 |
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| Insomniac |
updated, good work.
Was gonna bring the vericom for you to try out but it wasn't working well at all in Matt's car...
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| BSH |
I believe I should be on the list:
12.773 @ 105.16 during the V8less challenge at race city. Won Class A.
2004 Subaru Sti
Jay z |
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| Insomniac |
:bthumbup:
You should take the "other" car out and run a nuber too. |
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| Mekanik22 |
| <---- 90 Cavalier. 2 hours@8 km/h |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by Insomniac
updated, good work.
Was gonna bring the vericom for you to try out but it wasn't working well at all in Matt's car...
:dunno:
It might work better in a car that doesn't nearly do a backflip when you accelerate.....:dunno: |
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| Kirill |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
UPDATES FROM AUG 20, 2004 Street Legals:
Zippy's / Pro Drag Performance 88 Sivik (season debut, running Hondata) 12.257 @ 118.63
Rob K Daytona 12.661 @ 107.13
Update: Rob K Daytona 12.403 @ 109.43 |
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| RWD |
| wow only 1 rwd car in the top 10 ... boooo |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by RWD
wow only 1 rwd car in the top 10 ... boooo
I'll be there to try to rep for the RWD guys on Sunday, as well as some other Zs and 240SXs from the Nissan camp. (I hear the RX-7s may be out in force too). But based on the way things are going, I'll predict its going to take at least a 12.7-12.8 to get back on the list and expect to stay there for any length of time.
Even the Quick 8 (SCC Class A) on sunday is probably going to be really tight this year. :fingersx: |
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| Pro Drag |
Zippy's/Pro Drag '88 Sivik 11.196@114.97 MPH (Bud Park)
JB's Shootout. 18/9/04.
Driver: Blaine B.
I will be the first to admit that I did not get a chance to back up the run as rains came. Will try a repeat performance @ The SCC on the 19th.. I have the run on camera as well for any doubters, the time slip is right here in front of me. |
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| Insomniac |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Zippy's/Pro Drag '88 Sivik 11.196@114.97 MPH (Bud Park)
JB's Shootout. 18/9/04.
Driver: Blaine B.
I will be the first to admit that I did not get a chance to back up the run as rains came. Will try a repeat performance @ The SCC on the 19th.. I have the run on camera as well for any doubters, the time slip is right here in front of me.
Got typo? |
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| Pro Drag |
| You read it right.:bthumbup: |
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| CYA |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Zippy's/Pro Drag '88 Sivik 11.196@114.97 MPH (Bud Park)
JB's Shootout. 18/9/04.
Driver: Blaine B.
no disrespect meant but i have a hard time believing these numbers.
even for RWD cars an 11.1 would land somewhere around a 130mph trap speed.
when FWD cars pull the same et's they almost always trap MUCH higher.
so if you let off the throttle or hit the brake on this run to only trap a 115mph this would mean your car would have run a lower-mid 10 second et or there abouts.
i just can't see it.
my 2 cents. |
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| Insomniac |
| I agree with CYA, hense the "typo" comment. Post the slip and we will see if it makes sense. |
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| DarrylBleau |
I have the run on tape, I can digitize it and you can time it for yourself. It's about 11 seconds. How that works from a physics point of view, I have no idea.
However, I don't think there will be a back-up pass this year. |
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| CYA |
| i'm not saying the time slip or the board didn't show what he wrote. i'm saying the numbers don't add up. either an error on the timers or maybe something else besides the car flew across the beams and tripped the lights. either that or the trap speed is the wrong number and it's really supposed to be 141mph? LOL! i tend to think it's the et that's wrong. |
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| Ninja III |
quote:
Originally posted by CYA
i'm not saying the time slip or the board didn't show what he wrote. i'm saying the numbers don't add up. either an error on the timers or maybe something else besides the car flew across the beams and tripped the lights. either that or the trap speed is the wrong number and it's really supposed to be 141mph? LOL! i tend to think it's the et that's wrong.
I guess it's to bad you guys have doubts here and there, but time slip says it all. Whether right or wrong, none of us can ever say, except that, their car has a time slip and a run that says they did. If everyone here was to debate on right trap speeds for what ET's should match, well then all the times summited should be judged and then passed before posting. I feel this list is really a good and FUN thing, it's great to see how many guys/shops out there can not only build a good car, but can make it go fast too. Don't take that away from this crowd(alberta), we're all here for a good time, if someone wants to lie about a ET they ran, well, what kind of person is that anyways, they not only lye to all of us, but they're only lying to themselves. What fun is there in that. :dunno:
Just my thoughts
Stewart Sim
Long Live Ninja III |
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| Insomniac |
Post the slip breakdown (330, 1/8 mile, etc), and since there is a vid post it too.
This shouldn't be very hard to verify.
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| DarrylBleau |
Like I said, I'll get the run posted up and you can all time it for yourselves. Maybe something did go wrong, the only confirmation I had was a to watch the run and count 'one one thousand two one thousand etc...' and it seemed about 11 seconds. But I'll let Blaine defend his own run, and I think it doesn't matter anyway as the run wasn't backed up within 10% the same day. Which is good for me, as I want to toot my own horn :).
At the SCC on Sunday I ran a 11.96@116.11 and backed that up with a 12.124@115.39. It probably had more in it but I didn't want to go too hard on the new motor. (only reved to 7k, and the 11.9 was on pump gas).
Timeslips: http://www.nacdsm.org/albums/CarMod...01107.sized.jpg |
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| Insomniac |
| which car were you in? the black DSM? |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Insomniac
which car were you in? the black DSM?
Yes the black '91 Talon TSi is my baby. That's Black Sunshine :). (Any of you old enough to have listened to White Zombie will understand that one). |
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| Insomniac |
cool, nice car.
i will update times in a few days once more are submitted. i assume there are more to come, so i'm not going to bother for now. |
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| stealth |
11.84 @121mph
"sleeper" (Beyond Name) from Calgary
Red Civic Hatch Back. |
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| CYA |
quote:
Originally posted by stealth
11.84 @121mph
"sleeper" (Beyond Name) from Calgary
Red Civic Hatch Back.
that's a sweet car! i saw the run and i must say this is the most exciting import i've seen to date.
the "sleeper" name definately suits! :bthumbup:
when your car hit about the 330ft mark i knew it was going to be fast. :bowdown:
i must say in all the years i've been going to the track (10 yrs and counting now) this is one of my favorite cars. |
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| stealth |
ha not my ride.
Its my friends cousin.
Didnt expect it to be there lol.
And i must admit his car is total sleeper. |
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by Insomniac
Post the slip breakdown (330, 1/8 mile, etc), and since there is a vid post it too.
This shouldn't be very hard to verify.
:dunno:
Sivik
R/T=1.569
60'=Down
330'=4.126
1/8=6.869
MPH=88.91
1000'= 9.234
1/4=11.196
MPH=114.97
Rob was in the right lane with his Daytona, here is his slip.
R/T=-.053 (redlight)
60'=1.856
330'=5.167
1/8=Down
MPH=Down
1000'=10.376
1/4=12.420
MPH=110.29
I think I know why the MPH is low.
The Sivik needed waay bigger injectors.
It had 500 cc injectors, my calculations after dynoing it were that it needed 800cc injectors at least.
Duty cycle shot to 100% @ 5000 RPM, hitting 120% duty cycle by 6000 RPM.
The car is lean off the chart from 5200 RPM on, no fuel means no power. The car screams down the track up to third gear. Once we shift to 4th, it is lean as fuck, no horsepower being made, the car is essentially coasting about 700 ft down the track to the traps.
The run above, I managed to get zero wheelspin off the line, which contributed to the bottom end acceleration.
The run wasn't backed up on Sunday. The lean condition finally got the best of the STOCK Integra LS Longblock. It put a window in the block at the beginning of 4th gear.
I am a big fan of consistency, if you want to put the 11.19 run up on the list, please put a "*" next to it to indicate it was not backed up.
Anybody want to by an 88' Sivik race chassis?
If not, we got something brewed up for next season.;) |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by stealth
11.84 @121mph
"sleeper" (Beyond Name) from Calgary
Red Civic Hatch Back.
If I'm not mistaken, didn't he also crater? (Piston, I think?). Does that mean it was a sacraficial run? I'm not trying to be an ass, it's a real question, I don't know anything about the car. |
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
If I'm not mistaken, didn't he also crater? (Piston, I think?). Does that mean it was a sacraficial run? I'm not trying to be an ass, it's a real question, I don't know anything about the car.
I thought I heard he did 2 runs that were 11.8's.
He came over to our pit and asked us to come and listen to his car because it "didn't sound right".
When he started it up for us the consensus was that he had scrubbed out a piston. Definite knocking sound.
He packed it in and went back to Calgary.
If he did two runs I say he backed it up, even at the expense of a blown engine. If he only made one run, then :dunno:
The car is definetly a sleeper. Very tastefully put together.
I saw on Beyond that he put 550 to the front wheels on the Mustang Dyno in Calgary. Hope they had a wideband on it. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Your MPH is low because you are running slicks Blaine. Thats the proper mile per hour for your car. You probably still had a little more in it. |
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| stealth |
Im sure it is consistent.
in calgary he ran a 12.06 with low boost.
ran 2 good times at SCC. Dunno if he had problems ill check later. |
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| Adam @ Apex |
Change the list....
Apex SRT4 (2003)
12.3@110mph
Done at the scc yesterday |
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| Adam @ Apex |
| Oh and backed with a 12.5@112mph |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam @ Apex
Apex SRT4 (2003)
12.3@110mph
Done at the scc yesterday
quote:
Oh and backed with a 12.5@112mph
Well done Sir.... Well done! :bowdown: |
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| v8slayer |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam @ Apex
Change the list....
Apex SRT4 (2003)
12.3@110mph
Done at the scc yesterday
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However this proves Blaine would have made his 11.916 @ 114mph if you pro rate the scale as both cars used slicks and are FWD.
Congrats to you also Blaine for an awesome run on a stock LS block. |
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| Insomniac |
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer
However this proves Blaine would have made his 11.916 @ 114mph if you pro rate the scale as both cars used slicks and are FWD.
LOL, it's 11.196, not 11.916
I updated the list, with the exception of Zippy's/Prodrag... waiting for the video |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| What he is trying to say that based on the MPH, he should running a 11.98 if we were to compare the Zippy's car vs. the Apex car. But you have to consider also that the Zippy's Civic cut a 1.5 60' and I would even go as far to say he lost some speed down the track or misshifted even because they have hit 118MPH before. Also, the Apex car has a lot of room for better times I believe. |
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| Insomniac |
1.5 60 ft?
misshift?
WTF??? Am I reading the same thread as you? |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer
However this proves Blaine would have made his 11.916 @ 114mph
LOL.... if his claim was as you typed it. But he's claiming 11.19, not 11.91, which is why such doubt exists. |
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| Insomniac |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
Sivik
R/T=1.569
60'=Down
330'=4.126
1/8=6.869
MPH=88.91
1000'= 9.234
1/4=11.196
MPH=114.97
so far the slip looks fubared to me. the 330ft is way too low. 4.1 seconds would require a 1.3 or 1.4 short time and the 60ft happens to be down. that is the suk. put up the vid, hopefully it's from the side and not the back.
what was the 60' and 330' on the other fast runs? |
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| Pro Drag |
I have the timeslip here in front of me.
I have posted both runs from the same timeslip.
Rob left 1.622 second before I did.
I was about a 2 lengths back by the end of the quarter mile.
His car is pretty much dialed in and runs consistent 12.4's, which is exactly what he ran on this run.
Until we get the video digitized, I will leave you with some math.
http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/hp_mph.php
2200 lb car
120 MPH trap speed (what the car has done in the past this season)
15% drivetrain loss.
Around 260 WHP, which is damn close to what the car put down on Stews Dyno last year.
This year with the new setup and running the Hondata, it layed down 348 WHP on Apex's Dynojet.
Using the same calculator as above, it should be good for approx 130 MPH trap speeds. However, due to the severe lean condition at the top 30% of the rpm band, it noses over BADLY in 3rd and 4th.
Just because Andrew never drove the car hard (car has an inconsistent 3rd gear) doesn't mean the car didn't have it in it. I got behind the wheel and drove it like everything else I own, TO IT'S LIMITS. I was able to power shift it all the way down the 1/4 mile. This was only the 3rd time I have ever driven the car.
I can't wait for the video. I still don't believe it myself. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Sorry I'm a little confused too. |
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| BSH |
Didn't the list last year make a correction factor for Budpark vs. race city due to elevation changes? Could be wrong, but I thought it did.
I backed up my 12.7 at race City and Multiple 12.7's at the latest JB's shootout with a a few 15.9's at the SCC yesterday:D
I should have left well enough alone as the temps yesterday would have made low to mid twelves possible, but when you try to put a much bigger turbo, new headers, new clutch, new intercooler, and new alcohol injection in the evening before the race and find out at 1:00am that you don't have the right gaskets or bolts to get it back together and then find a big whole in the uppipe leading to turbo so it can't make any boost, you're pretty much screwed.
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by BSH
Didn't the list last year make a correction factor for Budpark vs. race city due to elevation changes? Could be wrong, but I thought it did.
I backed up my 12.7 at race City and Multiple 12.7's at the latest JB's shootout with a a few 15.9's at the SCC yesterday:D
I should have left well enough alone as the temps yesterday would have made low to mid twelves possible, but when you try to put a much bigger turbo, new headers, new clutch, new intercooler, and new alcohol injection in the evening before the race and find out at 1:00am that you don't have the right gaskets or bolts to get it back together and then find a big whole in the uppipe leading to turbo so it can't make any boost, you're pretty much screwed.
jz
So I wasn't crazy. I knew there were 2 different Silver STi's there yesterday.
The other guy (Bernard) was running a UTEC and Headers for mods and doing consistent 13.4's. |
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| se-i |
| The proof is in the pudding.If you would have hooked up you would have had a hire mph.Oh it looked like you fell asleep at the tree again LOL |
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| BSH |
That MPH makes sense if you let off at the end, but it still doesn't make any sense looking at the video. The daytona won the race barely, but its ETA was about 1.2 seconds more. I watched the video multiple times and although the daytona leaves earlier, it certainly doesn't appear that it left 1.3 seconds earlier. This would mean he was about 50 feet ahead before the civic even left the line, and clearly that is not the case. The daytona is not even a car length ahead of the civic when the civic leaves the line. So clearly there was a malfunction with the civic tripping the lights when it left the line. Sorry Blaine, I would be happy for you if that time was correct but it clearly is not.
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| Insomniac |
Ok, I reviewed the video with a video editing package and this is what I found using the time bar (give or take a few hundredths or a tenth):
19.01 seconds – Daytona starts to move
19.15 seconds - Civic starts to move and the Daytona’s tree goes red
31.28 seconds – Daytona’s board lights up with the 12.42 (Daytona crossing finish)
32.07 seconds – Civic’s board lights up with the 11.19 (Civic crossing finish)
Therefore…
Daytona’s elapsed time, using the video = 12.27 seconds (0.15 Seconds off of the posted time)
Civic’s elapsed time, using the video = 12.92 seconds (1.73 Seconds off of the posted time)
What really happened is that the Civic got beat off the line by about a tenth or two, and lost ground as the race went on. Please keep in mind that the angle that the video is taken from makes the Civic look more even than they were in real life (simple geometry).
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that was a high 12, not a low 11. |
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| BSH |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Rob left 1.622 second before I did.
I was about a 2 lengths back by the end of the quarter mile.
His car is pretty much dialed in and runs consistent 12.4's, which is exactly what he ran on this run.
lf.
I agree
If the daytona left 1.622 seconds before the civic, it would have been at least 3.5 car lenghths (past the tree) before the civic even moved. Clearly thats not the case by watching the video, the daytona appears to leaves a little before, but 1.6 seconds is an eternity.
Jay Z |
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| v8slayer |
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However this proves Blaine would have made his 11.916 @ 114mph if you pro rate the scale as both cars used slicks and are FWD.
Congrats to you also Blaine for an awesome run on a stock LS block.
OOOH fuck sorry dude.......typo.
I meant 11.196.
Blaine has always been honest and smart about racing so I would say his slip is accurate if he feels it is.:) |
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| DarrylBleau |
| I suppose I forgot to mention that my run wasn't on foot. I was driving a car at the time. :P (Look at the standings mine is the only one without a car listed). |
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| Ninja III |
Midtown Import Update
1988 Honda CRX
12.564 ET @ 112.79 mph
12.680 ET @ 110.36 mph
V8less SCC 2 budpark sept.19/2004
Stewart Sim
Long Live Ninja III |
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| BSH |
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer
OOOH fuck sorry dude.......typo.
I meant 11.196.
Blaine has always been honest and smart about racing so I would say his slip is accurate if he feels it is.:)
I don't think anyone is accusing Blaine of being dishonest, only that the time didn't make sense and analyzing the video PROVES that it is not accurate. It's not Blaines fault the timing lights screwed up, this is not uncommon at this track since it was called Labatt raceway.
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