| Z32NUT |
Things like this make me sick!
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/.../700644-cp.html
If this bozo was in the States, he'd be strung up off of the closest tree. The rampant Amercian nationalism isn't one of my favorite things, but showing blatant disrespect for your country fries my bacon. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| I'm getting so sick of the Bloc. If they want sovereignity I say give it to them, but complete sovereignity. They can't dump their debt on us and start of scott free; nor should they be able to use our currency. If they are so disgusted by Canada I would wholy support seperation. Let's see how they handle themselves without transfer payments. |
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| 2003specv |
| If those dipshits want sovereignty where the hell are they gonna get the billions Alberta sends them every year??? |
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| BZZRTN |
| where are they gonna find the land??if they are standing in canada it dos not mean they own the land and can just say now they want thier own country so its now thier land....Boot them the F**K OUT! |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by 2003specv
If those dipshits want sovereignty where the hell are they gonna get the billions Alberta sends them every year???
Correction. The billions Anglo-Canada sends them. Alberta pays less taxes than the rest of the country, so don't think you're the only ones getting drained here.
also, if you let Quebec leave, you'll be completely fucking the Maritimes. The only way for a sovereign Quebec and a complete Canada to exist is to make deals that allow free flow of traffic through southern Quebec without any teriffs or border control. The only thing we should do as far as separation is let them govern and support themselves. That'll never happen though.
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Boot them the F**K OUT!
Yes, because we all know how great an idea the Expulsion was. Besides, the International community would have a lot of problems with this kind of policy. |
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| crazyrx7 |
Fuck it just give the Quebecers Newfoundland and let those poor newfies that love this country actually be able to have a job and support their families. They would be more than happy to move into Quebec. The Bloc are a kind of "terrorists" and they have to be iraticated. Send in the 1000 troops that we have and over through that government. Shit Bush should just come up here and get rid of them just like he did in Iraq.
R.K. |
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| bigmack000 |
| wonder if we would have a civil war :confused: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by crazyrx7
Fuck it just give the Quebecers Newfoundland and let those poor newfies that love this country actually be able to have a job and support their families. They would be more than happy to move into Quebec. The Bloc are a kind of "terrorists" and they have to be iraticated. Send in the 1000 troops that we have and over through that government. Shit Bush should just come up here and get rid of them just like he did in Iraq.
R.K.
What the hell are you saying man? None of that made sense to me.
And for the billionth time, you people have to learn the difference between the Maritimes and Newfoundland. You can't give them the Maritimes, because the Maritimes doesn't want to be part of a sovereign Quebec any more than you do. Picture Canada with no Eastern ports.
Respect the Maritimes. They may have no money now, (and that's due to government restricitons, not lack of resources or people willing to work) but they built this country you so love. They held the Americans back when they would have taken Canada for their own. All I hear about is how 'newfies' (in the wrong context) are lazy and suck the money out of your pocket. Open your eyes a little bit and stop listening to your daddy's closed minded ignorant bitching about the 'east'. Ottawa fucks the East coast far more than the West.
I think we'll see Newfoundland separate before Quebec. Since they joined confederation, their industry has gone to shit. I could see them going back to the Union Jack pretty damn quick. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by oldraven
What the hell are you saying man? None of that made sense to me.
And for the billionth time, you people have to learn the difference between the Maritimes and Newfoundland. You can't give them the Maritimes, because the Maritimes doesn't want to be part of a sovereign Quebec any more than you do. Picture Canada with no Eastern ports.
LOL when people consider Toronto to be part of "Eastern Canada" you know there's a problem. :D
...although Newfoundland is too nice for the Bloc, I think it would be funny as hell to move out the vive-le-francais types and see a boat load of newfs move in beside ontario. :lol: |
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| oldraven |
We could always send them back to france, and the separatists can live on the St. Pierre & Miquelon Isles. :D
(all appologies for getting a little flared up in that last post) |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by oldraven
We could always send them back to france, and the separatists can live on the St. Pierre & Miquelon Isles. :D
(all appologies for getting a little flared up in that last post)
That gets my vote! :bthumbup: |
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| crazyrx7 |
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Originally posted by oldraven
We could always send them back to france, and the separatists can live on the St. Pierre & Miquelon Isles. :D
(all appologies for getting a little flared up in that last post)
I totally understand where your coming from. I have nothing against newfies as I worked with them at Suncor; as a matter of fact I spoke a little newfie :lol: . I myself had to vent. I'm tired of the bloc complaining how bad they have it and how they would be better off if they weren't part of Canada. I say pay back Canada's provinces what they owe them and I will personally chip in money to rent huge barges and send the "bloc" out of here. The funny thing is that France probably won't want them either because the "bloc" will stir up shit there as well. Now I feel better.
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| dance_of_curse |
| Why doesn't Canada just sell Quebec to the USA like Russia did with Alaska?...And then they'll be wanting to come back into Canada, at least that one provience makes all of Canada have dual lables. Unlike the USA.....If that happened USA prolley would try to take over us though. |
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| oldraven |
Honestly, the only problems we have in this country is double standards. Paying for all time for the evil deeds done by our ancestors. Quebec is all french because we stuck em there. The natives have unequal living conditions because we stuck em there.
Reserves have got to go, so we can stop paying for past mistakes, and Quebec has got to stop getting free money just because they're french. (what kind of bullshit is that anyway) We should be giving our excess cash to the poor, not people with the right kind of blood. Equality can only happen one way. Level the field and be done with it. |
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| Bucktown |
fuck quebec, fuck the indians, and fuck the canadian government.
you cant have the best of both worlds. if you want a level playing feild, everything needs to be privatized..... im so sick of all this bitching, it drives me fucking crazy. im not even gonna get started on the native thing, but the fucking bloc needs to shut the fuck up. they have it better than anyone. whats the major resource in quebec anyways? rocks? i think its fucking tourism....if theres nothing there then fucking leave. anyone who gets free money needs to be thankful that they get that, not bitch more.
lose the equalization payments, and the dollar crumbles because of population concentration. cut them off, and they will starve. i say civil war. make quebec our prison province....... |
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| Z32NUT |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Quebec is all french because we stuck em there.
A bit of Quebec history
Wrong, dude. Montreal and Quebec city were always french. At one time the french were spread from Quebec City all the way down to New Orleans. The Brit, Lord Wolf in September of 1759 beat the Quebec french on the Plains of Abraham outside Quebec City. They drove the French army all the way down to South Carolina.
The Americans played the French right. They didn't pander to their "distinctness" and basically told them to "shut up or get out". That's why all that's left of the French is down south in the US in da bayou'.
We, on the other hand, let they cry all the way into Confederation. And we've been paying for it, literally, ever since. We should've sent them packing back to France, in my opinion instead of letting them stay put. All of us, including the indians, would've been alot happier. |
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| Genki |
That's what i have always thought, but never looked to confirm it. I always blamed hte british for not expelling the french out of this country way back then.
IMO if htey dont like it here then just leave! man i cant stand it.
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Originally posted by Z32NUT
A bit of Quebec history
Wrong, dude. Montreal and Quebec city were always french. At one time the french were spread from Quebec City all the way down to New Orleans. The Brit, Lord Wolf in September of 1759 beat the Quebec french on the Plains of Abraham outside Quebec City. They drove the French army all the way down to South Carolina.
The Americans played the French right. They didn't pander to their "distinctness" and basically told them to "shut up or get out". That's why all that's left of the French is down south in the US in da bayou'.
We, on the other hand, let they cry all the way into Confederation. And we've been paying for it, literally, ever since. We should've sent them packing back to France, in my opinion instead of letting them stay put. All of us, including the indians, would've been alot happier.
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| oldraven |
You missunderstood me. We didn't literally put the French there, but we did force them back into Quebec. France had control of most of the eastern coast of Canada, until the English beat them out. And they are in New Orleans and also the Caribian (Jamaica, I think. Afew other places in the south as well) because of the Expulsion, which I mentioned before. The English DID boot them out. And when we expelled the French from the Maritimes, all that were left were the Quebecors. (there's always the Metis too)
They moved in, but we stuck em there. Honestly, I believe Britain would have expelled them from Quebec if it weren't for the fact that there were so many french there that it would have been impossible to get them out. Not without another civil war, at any rate. Seeing how much trouble they were having in the south, I don't blame them for stepping back from Quebec and concentrating their military efforts elsewhere. |
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| Z32NUT |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Honestly, I believe Britain would have expelled them from Quebec if it weren't for the fact that there were so many french there that it would have been impossible to get them out. Not without another civil war, at any rate. Seeing how much trouble they were having in the south, I don't blame them for stepping back from Quebec and concentrating their military efforts elsewhere.
Hindsight being 20/20, a pain then would've solved a whole bunch of grief later. Like the FLQ crisis, Two referendums, a Premier that went to France to talk with Mitterand, head of that country about alliances AFTER seperation. That one quite personally, I would considered that grounds for treason, but no one in gov't had the cahones to do anything.
By definition:
treason, high treason, lese majesty -- (a crime that undermines the offender's government) |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by Z32NUT
but no one in gov't had the cahones to do anything.
You just said it. Seems to be the cause of most of our grief. That's why I try to explain to people here that you're lucky you've got Klein. The guy's a rabid beast and won't let his province get jerked around. I wish we had a premier like that in N.S. |
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