| gillAteen |
I received a supposed tint ticket tonight but the officer mentioned nothing of the sort on the ticket, it states:
65(1)(D) (operate mv not complying with equip reg's)
(x)traffic safety act.
and it's $115.
Does this seem right? |
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| RSN CRX |
| Are those numbers and letters refering to a law? If so then I believe he can just write that, but I would double check that. |
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| TrevorK |
What the description of the ticket says is that you are driving a car that does not meet regulations.
Which could very well apply to tint. |
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| energie |
| how dark is ur tint if u don't mind me asking? |
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| gillAteen |
Its 17%(pretty dark)
The thing is that what he wrote me up under is a very general law and it's $115 fine, which states: (d) drive or operate a vehicle on a highway unless the vehicle
and its equipment are used in a manner or as prescribed or
provided for by regulation;
which to me, doesnt't say at all what the offense is,
There is a more specific law under the vehicle equipment regs that states: 69(1) A person shall not install, replace or cover the window
glazing in a windshield or in a left or right side window of a motor
vehicle that is beside or forward of the driver with a transparent,
translucent or opaque material.
And as far as i know that one is a $57 fine. |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
| Sounds as if TSA 65(1)(d) is being substituted for the Vehicle Equipment Regs 69(1). Interesting development... :loco: |
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| curtis_rak |
| You could take it to court and get it knocked down to the window-glazing charge. However, he didn't specify that it was window glazing that got you the ticket, so I'm not so sure if that would even work. |
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| Keith303 |
unless they upped the charge my 2 tint tickets were both 57$.
it was a vehicle equipment violation. i had full limo also |
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| Mustard |
i was driving my dads car.. it had very light tint, or so i thought...
and the ticket i got (and then passed on to my dad ;) ) was $57 as well...
i think i remember it mentioning Tinting right on it though :dunno: |
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| curtis_rak |
I have had 1 tint ticket and it said 'Equipped with side window glazing' right on it as well.
Back then...it was only $28. |
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| Z32NUT |
I can't figure out why you guys whine about getting tickets for tinting when 90% of people out there who get the tiniting done know that the front 3 cannot be tinted to ANY degree. Have you folks even asked why it's illegal??
Back in '87-88, I knew a RCMP constable through the Canada Safety Council and he explained why in very real terms. " Would YOU want to walk up to the side of a vehicle you've just stopped, and not be able to see the driver? As far as you now, he could be pointing a gun right at you and you'd never know it." A cop doing a traffic stop is at his most vulnerable walking up the side of the vehicle. He dosen't know the state of mind of the driver, or what the driver will do.
Try this out...If you were a cop doing a stop, wouldn't you want to be able to see if someone was going to try to ruin your life in a big way?
Yes, having all the windows blacked out looks sexy as hell on most cars. Yes, I would LOVE to do it to both of my cars. And Yes, there are places in the States and other parts of the world that allow it. But not "here". And having that signed drivers licence so you can be on the road "here", also means that you've agreed to abide by the rules and regulations that go along with it. Including following the laws on tinting windows on your ride.
As made famous by an Eagles tune....GET OVER IT! |
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| curtis_rak |
| I agree wholeheartedly. |
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| gillAteen |
| Umm........Z32NUT, i'm not in the least complaining about getting a window tint ticket, if you read carefully, i believe that i received the wrong charge, or should have been issued a more specific and appropriate charge for the offence. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| He just makes post that are completely useless. I think its his way of feeling good about himself, talking trash to people over the net. I'd wait for albertarc's comments on this ticket. He'll most likely provide you with the best response. I'd say your best bet is to take it to the courts and get it brought down to the proper fine or try to get it dropped fully. I think those are the best solutions to your problem. Good luck! :D |
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| Z32NUT |
I feel just just fine about myself, thank-you very much. :) Being 50%+ older than most of the people on this forum gives me a different perspective. If people call that trash talking, so be it.
I just can't believe that people can whine like mules for getting a ticket for doing something that they knew was wrong in the first place, even if it may be (in your minds) in the wrong category. Not complying with equipment reg's (ie: tinted windows) seems fine to me. It would be like the military's catch-all of conduct unbecoming. |
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| TrevorK |
quote:
Originally posted by Z32NUT
I feel just just fine about myself, thank-you very much. :) Being 50%+ older than most of the people on this forum gives me a different perspective. If people call that trash talking, so be it.
I just can't believe that people can whine like mules for getting a ticket for doing something that they knew was wrong in the first place, even if it may be (in your minds) in the wrong category. Not complying with equipment reg's (ie: tinted windows) seems fine to me. It would be like the military's catch-all of conduct unbecoming.
Well, I'm a younger person and I agree with you about the whining, so it's not just a senior citizen type thing :) |
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| 2000z |
Actually, Rob is probably near as old as you. He's not whining, he's right. The cop gave him the wrong ticket. If you shoot your CO in the military, they don't give you "conduct unbecoming" they give you "attempted murder" or "assault". Just like here, he should have got the ticket for the specific violation. If there was no window tint law than this one swould be the appropriate one.
You say your perspective is different because you're 50%+ older. Maybe so, but your way of addressing people and issues is remarkably similar to that one kid in school who always acted better than everyone because he outscored them on every test or had the most friends. Quite frankly, it's *almost* as annoying as the EZ team's posts. |
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| Z32NUT |
quote:
You say your perspective is different because you're 50%+ older. Maybe so, but your way of addressing people and issues is remarkably similar to that one kid in school who always acted better than everyone because he outscored them on every test or had the most friends. Quite frankly, it's *almost* as annoying as the EZ team's posts.
You're opinion and you're welcome to it. I posted my opinion on this thread. I gave my reason for the difference in my opinion. You choose not to like it. That's your right. If you didn't like the kid in school who consistantly did better than you, or had more friends than you did, don't direct it at me. |
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| 1991CRXsi |
| my opinion on the Tint stuff is crap but then there are ways around it if you really want tinted front side windows.. but as for the the driver could have a gun pointed etc etc. what difference does that make.. if there is more then one occupant in the car e.g backseat the back 3 windows can be as dark as you want.. so a guy in the back seat could have a gun pointed how is that any different then the driver having his window tinted. |
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| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by Z32NUT
Back in '87-88, I knew a RCMP constable through the Canada Safety Council and he explained why in very real terms. " Would YOU want to walk up to the side of a vehicle you've just stopped, and not be able to see the driver? As far as you now, he could be pointing a gun right at you and you'd never know it." A cop doing a traffic stop is at his most vulnerable walking up the side of the vehicle. He dosen't know the state of mind of the driver, or what the driver will do.
That's only a reasonable argument for banning limo tint.
Moderate tinting of the front windows is perfectly acceptable in some provinces, just not here, and its got nothing to do with safety, just an arbitrary decision.
http://www.iwfa.com/iwfa/Consumer_I...ovincelaws.html |
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| Z32NUT |
quote:
Originally posted by snugs
That's only a reasonable argument for banning limo tint.
But you know people will push it...
45% becomes 50%, becomes 60%. Just look at speed limits. Alot of days on highway 2, you'll get run over if you're NOT doing 130. On the Whitemud, 80 seems to be the minimum unless you're the old guy with the John Deere hat in the mid 80's Delta 88.
I still stand by my statement:
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And having that signed drivers licence so you can be on the road "here", also means that you've agreed to abide by the rules and regulations that go along with it. Including following the laws on tinting windows on your ride.
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| CJDP |
it should only be illegal if the window isn't rolled down by the time the cop is at the vehicle, then everything woould be fine...
plus they could shoot through te back windshield |
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| RSN CRX |
quote:
Originally posted by CJDP
it should only be illegal if the window isn't rolled down by the time the cop is at the vehicle, then everything woould be fine...
plus they could shoot through te back windshield
I guess you have never heard stories where the cop made the guy roll up his window and then rip off the tint. |
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| gillAteen |
quote:
Originally posted by RSN CRX
I guess you have never heard stories where the cop made the guy roll up his window and then rip off the tint.
I have, it happened to me 2summers ago........:( |
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| CJDP |
| yea...they made my friend do that, i'm just saying what they should do. not what they already do |
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| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by Z32NUT
I can't figure out why you guys whine about getting tickets for tinting when 90% of people out there who get the tiniting done know that the front 3 cannot be tinted to ANY degree. Have you folks even asked why it's illegal??
Back in '87-88, I knew a RCMP constable through the Canada Safety Council and he explained why in very real terms. " Would YOU want to walk up to the side of a vehicle you've just stopped, and not be able to see the driver? As far as you now, he could be pointing a gun right at you and you'd never know it." A cop doing a traffic stop is at his most vulnerable walking up the side of the vehicle. He dosen't know the state of mind of the driver, or what the driver will do.
Try this out...If you were a cop doing a stop, wouldn't you want to be able to see if someone was going to try to ruin your life in a big way?
Yes, having all the windows blacked out looks sexy as hell on most cars. Yes, I would LOVE to do it to both of my cars. And Yes, there are places in the States and other parts of the world that allow it. But not "here". And having that signed drivers licence so you can be on the road "here", also means that you've agreed to abide by the rules and regulations that go along with it. Including following the laws on tinting windows on your ride.
As made famous by an Eagles tune....GET OVER IT!
To update:
I KNOW an RCMP officer, he used to swing by and bullshit with the manager at one of the places I used to work on his coffee breaks every once in a while.
At the time I was driving my freshly restored 78 Dodge Warlock. All black with limo on the black window and 20% on the sides. Not being an asshole he casualy mentioned to me that the truck looked awesome like that but that I might get a ticket for the side tint. I told him I was aware of the law and questioned him on the basis of it.
He asked me what I thought the reason was for the law, having heard the "police officers need to know what is going on inside the car" story I replied as such.
He replied that it is pretty much an urban legend. The basis for the law that he was informed of is as follows:
Tint on the inside of the windows can develop fine scratches from rolling the window up and down. When faced with looking at sunrise or sunset conditions when attempting to merge onto a highway or turn left or right onto a highway, the scratches on the tint could catch the light at an odd angle and potentially blind your vision in certain spots. You could theoritically look both ways and think you saw nobody coming and pull out in front of them causing a collision.
Then I said, which is worse, sunrise or sunset blinding me through untinted glass or the possible glare from a window I can see out of because it is tinted. He just smiled and said "I only enforce the law, I don't write them". |
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| scooby_dooby |
| WHat about the claim that windows tinted with film do not shattter like they are supposed to, making them dangerous if you ever get in an accident. i remember hearing that as a justification once. |
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| 2000z |
| I was told by an officer it was for the fact that driver's need to make eye contact at four way stops.:dunno: Sounded kind of funny but thats what he said. |
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| SilverZ24 |
I have heard almost all of these reasons, plus one officer told me that the tint laws were put into place back when it was almost as hard to see out of a tinted window as it was to see in. So back then the law was put into place simply for safety. He said that now the tint out there is so much better and easier to see out of that the law is a bit excessive and that is why he never writes tickets for anything except for limo tint.
:dunno: Just another possible reason. :dunno: |
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| HEWSINATOR |
| SOunds like there is a plethora of reasons. I think the main being ability to see out, mainly at night, and the officer's ability to see in. |
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| ICED_OUT_RSX |
| i have had atleast a solid 10 - 15 tinting tickets in my time so fat they used to be like 28 bux i think now they are 57 i just got one a few weeks ago and it should be only 57 dollars i would fight that ticket forsure |
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| CJDP |
| its what you pay for having a nice ride...or a ricer |
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| Nightstalker |
| You can have a nice car and keep it completely legal.. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
You can have a nice car and keep it completely legal..
Ferrari's are nice.
But if you wanna do up an import the right way... you have to do "something" illegal. |
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