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Saw a saturn ION REDLINE - Click HERE for Original Thread

Keith303
saw one yesterday, has anyone else yet?

looked actually really nice, nicer then rsx's imo

I think street racing is going to rise doto the increase in SRT-4's, Chev cobalt,and the redline.

v8slayer
I doubt it will increase as only normal sane people buy the domestics.


On another note next time you see a redline go to the passenger side and grab where the front and rear doors meet by the roof and pull.

You can make a gap big enough to fit a pop can through with out damaging the doors.

Billy
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer


On another note next time you see a redline go to the passenger side and grab where the front and rear doors meet by the roof and pull.

You can make a gap big enough to fit a pop can through with out damaging the doors.



Ahahahahahahahhahahahah!!! That's funny. I'm going to have to try that.

Keith303
haha yah,

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
looked actually really nice, nicer then rsx's imo



Your opinion appears to be clouded through a drug-induced haze. :lol: If not, then better get your eyes checked.

Keith303
as stated imo, let me elaborate, stock vs stock I like the redline/cobalt better then a stock rsx, however once some apperance mods are done I believe RSX's are among some of the nicest cars out there.


for example DC5PWR's car

DeathBy240
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303

I think street racing is going to rise doto the increase in SRT-4's, Chev cobalt,and the redline.



I highly doubt a few new cars on the market are gonna change much.

Keith303
The way I look at it is, theres gonna be alot more smartass young drivers with quick cars out there, srt-4/cobalt/redline and instantly think they have togo out and rape every honda/Sport compact because they think they will have something to prove.

thats just my reasoning in foreseeing arise in street racing action.
maybe it will maybe it wont. quess we'll see how many posts come up in the summer about these cars being seen driven recklessly

Billy
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303

thats just my reasoning in foreseeing arise in street racing action.
maybe it will maybe it wont. quess we'll see how many posts come up in the summer about these cars being seen driven recklessly



Or the favorite "...I got this ticket for streetracing and I need to fight it cause it's going to hurt my insurance...."

DeathBy240
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
The way I look at it is, theres gonna be alot more smartass young drivers with quick cars out there, srt-4/cobalt/redline and instantly think they have togo out and rape every honda/Sport compact because they think they will have something to prove.

thats just my reasoning in foreseeing arise in street racing action.
maybe it will maybe it wont. quess we'll see how many posts come up in the summer about these cars being seen driven recklessly



I understand what you mean, but there have always been cheap fast cars. I dont think a couple new cars will have a dramtic increase.

Hot_Wheelz
We had one come into Certified for a car starter... the interior is ok.. has one of thoes dash boards that are obviously made to change easy from LHD to RHD. The Seats in the car were AMAZING, if i could find a smashed up one in the junk yard i would nab the seats in a heart beat. I only got to drive it in the parking lot so i didnt really get to open up the supercharger at all.. but from what ive heard the supercharger in it isnt all that good.. but thats all ive heard i dont really know much about the motor in thoes cars. All in all, i dont think id ever buy one.. especially since its a saturn and has the wonderful plastic body that all new saturns are famous for. I dont think they're that good.. IMO..

SilviaDrifter
i actually dont mind it it looks good but nothin compared to a RSX....it sorta has the S15 silvia look from the front

Wask
Whoever designed the car was watching to much Japanese anime.

DC5PWR




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:confused:

Keith303
thats about the least flattering ion pic, and the most flattering rsx pic....

I think the cobalt is nicer then the ion, pics dont do the ion justice, the black one with crome rims that I saw looked really nice.

maybe im partial to forcefed gm vehicles.

ive seen a cobalt tested at 14.3, can the 05 rsx-s top that?

DC5PWR
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
thats about the least flattering ion pic, and the most flattering rsx pic....

I think the cobalt is nicer then the ion, pics dont do the ion justice, the black one with crome rims that I saw looked really nice.

maybe im partial to forcefed gm vehicles.

ive seen a cobalt tested at 14.3, can the 05 rsx-s top that?




That ion pic is off the saturn webpage.. I'm sure they pic the worst pic they have to advertise their product on the web.:bthumbup:

Wookey
lets get everything straight here...... Saturn(GM) build quality versus Honda Build quality....... Hmmmmm...... How bout resale value..... I think we both know which one wins.:rolleyes:

95IntegraRS
Fuck, you gotta be kidding me. We're comparing a SATURN to a RSX. What the fuck is wrong with you people? That has to be the ugliest piece of shit car I have seen minus a few Renaults/Fiats. Whereas the RSX has smooth lines with aggresive styling, the Saturn is just... I don't even know how to explain that type of styling disaster.

DC5PWR
ok heres some more pics..



http://www.xtremega.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73&stc=1&thumb=1
http://www.xtremega.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=74&stc=1&thumb=1





I'm not like ooooooooh my car is soooooo awsome.. but honestly , nice car for a saturn, but really look close at the pictures..

Keith303
as i said at the beginning inmyownfuckingopinion. stop treating it like i gave a wrong answer because there is no wrong answer when it comes to ones opinion.


if i flat out said, the ion is nicer, then i could understand the whole argument, but if you read bettween the lines you can see the IMO

95IntegraRS
You don't need to get a whiny if someone challenges your opinion. Geeze, want your soother back?

GQsmooth
sorry but those are ugly

Keith303
its not being whiny its that people on this board are over opinionated and it gets annoying

2000z
Keith, you shouldn't have to even say it's your opinion. Just by stating it it's pretty much implied that its your opinion.

This is ridiculous. The guy said he thinks it looks better, since when did that mean he needs to be berated?

95integra- He says he likes the way a car looks, you have to make a point of asking what the fuck is wrong with him and tell him its the ugliest piece of shit you've ever seen. Who needs a soother?:rolleyes:

Wookey- Where did he say anything about build quality or resale?


Note to self: Saturns are so shitty that even when you think it looks nicer than another car, you're actually wrong no matter what.

SilviaDrifter


here is a pic of the ion

Mavrick
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
The way I look at it is, theres gonna be alot more smartass young drivers with quick cars out there, srt-4/cobalt/redline and instantly think they have togo out and rape every honda/Sport compact because they think they will have something to prove.

thats just my reasoning in foreseeing arise in street racing action.
maybe it will maybe it wont. quess we'll see how many posts come up in the summer about these cars being seen driven recklessly



I don't think things have really changed all that much over the course of automotive history. As long as boys are born with a right foot, it will always be magnetically attracted to floorboards.

Guys race because they have a natural inclination for competition. It won't ever go away. If it moves, I bet I can make mine go faster. That is the nature of the beast.

The newer cars are beginning to come out with the kind of power that is reminiscent of the late 60s, except with much better traction and handling.

The key is knowing where it is appropriate and where it is not.

I don't think we will see an increase in ticketing or offenses around here. The names of the cars to watch for might be changing, but I don't think anything else has.

Mav.

DC5PWR
quote:
Originally posted by SilviaDrifter


here is a pic of the ion




THat one looks nice!


maybe because its all blacked out and you can barely make out the car?

BB6SE
just curious.. but who got the cobalt to go 14.3 in the 1/4 mile?

notaturbotalon
quote:
Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
....it sorta has the S15 silvia look from the front


Are you serious? You're comparing that to the sexiest front end ever? If anything comes close to the S15 nose it's the new Mazda 6.

BB6SE
i agree with u on that part..
during the summer.. most of the times i saw an srt4..
it was racing or trying to pick on something..


quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
The way I look at it is, theres gonna be alot more smartass young drivers with quick cars out there, srt-4/cobalt/redline and instantly think they have togo out and rape every honda/Sport compact because they think they will have something to prove.

thats just my reasoning in foreseeing arise in street racing action.
maybe it will maybe it wont. quess we'll see how many posts come up in the summer about these cars being seen driven recklessly

95IntegraRS
Yea... every SRT-4 I met up with wanted to race me... I was happy to oblige. (At the track of course :bthumbup: )

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
ive seen a cobalt tested at 14.3


Please post a link or an exact reference to that literary source. Thanks.

(I'll give you the benefit of the doubt before raising the :bs: )

BB6SE
ahah thats what i said...
gm claims them to run low to mid 15's stock...
so a 14.3 is probably a run with different sc pulley..
bolt ons..
and slicks...
but maybe im wrong.. i havent driven one yet..

SilviaDrifter
quote:
Originally posted by DC5PWR
THat one looks nice!


maybe because its all blacked out and you can barely make out the car?



meh....it was the only nice pic i cud find..go firgue:p

2000z
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Please post a link or an exact reference to that literary source. Thanks.

(I'll give you the benefit of the doubt before raising the :bs: )



Motor Trend tested it at 14.5@ 98 mph. Pretty good overall review too.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=827


Heres some slips from a guy who ran 14.5 in his Redline.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=717

v8slayer
Finally the focus is taken off the little car that does all.

SRT-4:bthumbup:

Keith303
i saw a 14.3 in a magazine at a gas station. if my math is correct
proven 14.5 time provided by 2000z isnt much off from 14.3 which I saw.

maybe I didnt read the fine print and they did some free mods to get it .2 lower.... or maybe they had a better driver,altittude,wind ect ect ect.

Nightstalker
I heard somewhere that the ion redlines engine is actually a honda one.

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by Nightstalker
I heard somewhere that the ion redlines engine is actually a honda one.


I know the Vue has the 3.5L Honda engine - but I'm pretty sure the Redline is a GM engine....

gillAteen
1. 2.0-liter, supercharged and intercooled Ecotec engine
2. 205 hp, 200 ft. lbs. of torque
3. Performance springs, struts and stabilizer bars
4. Close-ratio, 5-speed manual transmission
5. Short-throw shifter
6. Oversized 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
7. High-flow, performance-tuned exhaust system
8. 17" forged alloy wheels with 215/45Z17 tires
9. Unique fascia and side-rocker ground effects
10. Custom design RECARO Sport Seats
11. Optional XM satellite radio*
12. Standard CD w/MP3 capabilities

Hot_Wheelz
quote:
Originally posted by DC5PWR
THat one looks nice!


maybe because its all blacked out and you can barely make out the car?




hahahaha SO TRUE!

impact
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
I know the Vue has the 3.5L Honda engine - but I'm pretty sure the Redline is a GM engine....


thats a oldsmobiles engine. its the same engine that is in the malibu and the new G6.

its a new gen 3.5 from GM and is in alot of their new cars.

GM has nothing to do with honda. as far as i know.

vist this link for the all of the gm engines
http://www.gminsidenews.com/e_guide.htm

i thnk the 3.5 in the redline is bit differant tho. to get the extra power

BB6SE
quote:
Originally posted by impact
thats a oldsmobiles engine. its the same engine that is in the malibu and the new G6.

its a new gen 3.5 from GM and is in alot of their new cars.

GM has nothing to do with honda. as far as i know.

vist this link for the all of the gm engines
http://www.gminsidenews.com/e_guide.htm

i thnk the 3.5 in the redline is bit differant tho. to get the extra power



judging by what u wrote.. u know NOTHING about cars man

the engine in the Vue is shared with the pilot.. MDX.. and odyssey

GM's new 3.5L is their own engine. used in the uplander, malibu, and G6..
and the redline doesnt have a 3.5L man

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by BB6SE
judging by what u wrote.. u know NOTHING about cars man

the engine in the Vue is shared with the pilot.. MDX.. and odyssey

GM's new 3.5L is their own engine. used in the uplander, malibu, and G6..
and the redline doesnt have a 3.5L man



Thanks - for a minute there I thought I was losing it...

youngbex
quote:
Originally posted by Keith303
saw one yesterday, has anyone else yet?

looked actually really nice, nicer then rsx's imo

I think street racing is going to rise doto the increase in SRT-4's, Chev cobalt,and the redline.




hey its a saturn:bowdown: :drama:

youngbex
quote:
Originally posted by gillAteen
1. 2.0-liter, supercharged and intercooled Ecotec engine
2. 205 hp, 200 ft. lbs. of torque
3. Performance springs, struts and stabilizer bars
4. Close-ratio, 5-speed manual transmission
5. Short-throw shifter
6. Oversized 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
7. High-flow, performance-tuned exhaust system
8. 17" forged alloy wheels with 215/45Z17 tires
9. Unique fascia and side-rocker ground effects
10. Custom design RECARO Sport Seats
11. Optional XM satellite radio*
12. Standard CD w/MP3 capabilities



o and super street put down 201 WHP, just incase anyone was wondering

CanadianR
quote:
Originally posted by gillAteen
1. 2.0-liter, supercharged and intercooled Ecotec engine
2. 205 hp, 200 ft. lbs. of torque
3. Performance springs, struts and stabilizer bars
4. Close-ratio, 5-speed manual transmission
5. Short-throw shifter
6. Oversized 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
7. High-flow, performance-tuned exhaust system
8. 17" forged alloy wheels with 215/45Z17 tires
9. Unique fascia and side-rocker ground effects
10. Custom design RECARO Sport Seats
11. Optional XM satellite radio*
12. Standard CD w/MP3 capabilities



WOW, you can post up a bunch of crap from a Redline brochure. What's your point with this? Does this list suddenly make it a great car?

Keith303
well it doesnt make a bad car..... alot more impressive to me then a 9000rpm redline that in stock form doesnt even do much aswell as a whopping 140trq at best

impact
quote:
Originally posted by BB6SE
judging by what u wrote.. u know NOTHING about cars man

the engine in the Vue is shared with the pilot.. MDX.. and odyssey

GM's new 3.5L is their own engine. used in the uplander, malibu, and G6..
and the redline doesnt have a 3.5L man



i thnk you should chill out and not judge someones knowledge of cars off 1 single post. i know about the new 3.5L. it designed by the oldsmobile branch of GM. the same engine that was in the arora. GM is now using it with a tuned up ecu so they can slowy phase out the 3100 & 3400 seires and put the 3.5L in everything. i know what cars its in, i work at the GM dealership. i was talking about the vue in my last post not the ion.

ok, so doing some research i admit i was wrong about it not being a honda engine.

but judging by what you wrote. it seems that you know about as much as i do about the vue redline.

the vue redline infact as a 3.5L http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/satu...tml?source=nctd

back on topic about the ion redline. they kinda look like a rsx, but the ion is longer.
i wouldnt get either and go right for the SS. :blue:

Inzane
LOL... you guys are arguing over who has the most knowledge of the Saturn Vue??!

What's that 'ol saying about arguing on the internet or special olympics, or........ :lol:

Keith303
haha good call, people on this forum argue for the sake of arguing most of the time.


it should be www.780debate.com




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