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3gec
What is a 60k over ticket worth on photoradar? I am just wondering how much not saying I am gonna try and fight it

180drifter
sixy over in a 30 zone??? lol

Kyle2K
quote:
Originally posted by 180drifter
sixy over in a 30 zone??? lol


ya cuz school zones are alot more expensive i beleve

2003specv
Isn't 50 over and above a court date?

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Isn't 50 over and above a court date?


I don't think you can do a court date with Photoradar because they have no way of proving who the driver of the vehicle was....

No-Pistons
Chances are they will come to your door and ask who was operating that vehicle. And they charge the owner with some crazy ass fine. And properly talk to your insurance company as they are the ones insuring your car. If you do not tell them so good luck with that one. 60 over is a big no. Trust me I know cost me $560 in lawyer fees to keep my licence plus a $300 fine.

3gec
I am not sure if it was 60 over but that is the absolute most over it could be. My spedometer is kinda hard to see at night cause I turn it down cause it's easier to see the road.

albertarc
51 km/h & above is a mandatory Court appearance whether it's a photo radar or personal dealings w/ an officer.

Check out page 8 & 9 of the attached link to see the fines for speeding (remember to add 15% surcharge to all amounts). The proposed amounts are now the current fines.

Specified Penalties

Jimbo:drama:

3gec
quote:
Originally posted by albertarc
51 km/h & above is a mandatory Court appearance whether it's a photo radar or personal dealings w/ an officer.





What do they say in court? what happense there when if I have to go.

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
What do they say in court? what happense there when if I have to go.


For people tagged on laser they can actually be charged with something like dangerous driving and so forth.

I don't know how they'd handle photo radar - they have to prove that you were the one driving, and they can't. They can only hope that you incriminate yourself, or someone else.

I mean, they can levy a registered owners ticket against ya, I just can't see the same reprecussions that someone caught via laser would face.

3gec
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK

I mean, they can levy a registered owners ticket against ya, I just can't see the same reprecussions that someone caught via laser would face.



What is a registered owners ticket?

albertarc
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
What is a registered owners ticket?


The fine is the same amount; however, there are no demerits assigned to the registered owner's drivers license. This is a good thing for people w/ a high number of demerits already or for someone wishing to keep their insurance costs low.

An RO ticket can be sent in the mail to the address listed on the plate's registration info. This can either be an individual or corporation.

Jimbo ;)

3gec
Ahhhh I see.



Well thanks for the info everyone

3gec
So i got my ticket today. It was 36 over. So if I go to court will I be able to get this lowered? I'm a student right now so I don't really have the cash to pay it. I am not looking for sympathy I am just wondering if they would lower it for me. By the way the cost is $228 for 36 over

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
So i got my ticket today. It was 36 over. So if I go to court will I be able to get this lowered? I'm a student right now so I don't really have the cash to pay it. I am not looking for sympathy I am just wondering if they would lower it for me. By the way the cost is $228 for 36 over


Do you think a judge would have sympathy for someone who says they're a student, yet drive an almost new "sports car" (As they would define it)?

3gec
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
Do you think a judge would have sympathy for someone who says they're a student, yet drive an almost new "sports car" (As they would define it)?



mmmmm You have a point. But this car was obtained when I had a well paying job in the oil field. And seeing it would make no sense to sell it because of the fact that it prolly depreciated enough to not even pay off the loan and since I don't have a job I can't get another loan to sell this and pay off that loan with another loan and still have a vehicle to get to school everyday. I live to far away to take the ETS. so I have no other option then to drive to school. But ya you still have point. however it might be worth a try. :fingersx:

And plus the way I have heard it from other people if you go to court they will at least lower the fine. And plus be alright to have more time to pay it as well.

SilverNeonRacer
Sorry if thi is slightly off topic, I haven't gotten a photoradar ticket in a while, well years now, living outta the city does that.

But is there anyway to actually fight a photo radar ticket, there have been times back when I was getting them almost weekly, where i saw the van well in advance and made sure I was doing 5km/h under the limit only to still get a 15over or 25 over ticket a few weeks later in the mail.

And another Q.. how come they get to break the law to enforce it? Quite often I see them up on medians or in other spots that if i where to park there i'd get towed.

thanks

brownguy
^^^ one of my teachers whos husband is a lawyer took her photo radar ticket to court and got it reduced and time to pay extended by agruing that the camera does not take into account the 5km/h that most people go over/under speed anyways which most cops let go anyways
its worth a shot to try.

3gec
I don't think there is a way to fight photo radar at all. I have looked all over the internet to see if other people have faught it and won but nothing yet. There was a guy who spent $120,000 trying to fight a photo radar ticket and still didn't win.
I am not looking to fight it cause I know I won't win I just want to get the fine lowered if possible.

And ya police can break the law I sometimes I think it's their job. But I have respect for what police do (except photo radar) and except the one chick who did fuck all when my car was involved in a hit and run and she caught the person doing it but still didn't charge the slut. I still pissed bout that one.

brownguy
double post srry

SilverNeonRacer
well my issue is, ok police to my understanding are not allowed to speed, unless responding to an emergency, even then it's iffy. thus they are "breaking" the law responding to it being broken already. My issue with photo radar is it's not run by cops, but commisionars, and they are breaking the law prior to the law being broken. Shoot i saw a photo radar van almost cream some lady with a stoller in a cross walk.

My defence would be car spedometers are not dyno'd at factory for accuracy. just over 3yrs ago i got 2 brand spanky new cars, a 02 neon Le and a 02 neon R/T.. while driving down the highway in the LE the wife in the R/T behind me matching my speed told me over FRS to slow down I was speeding, my speedo said 100km/h hers said 110km/h. based on that radar signt hey had on the cap for a couple months there my speedo was dead on.

3gec
isn't there a 10% error margin aloud for speeding somewhere? Or if the cop is nice or something. Prolly not. I heard somewhere that why cops always let you away with 10 over cause of that 10% error margin

brownguy
^^^exactly use that in your defence and say that the camera did not take this error margin into account, that should reduce ur ticket

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
isn't there a 10% error margin aloud for speeding somewhere? Or if the cop is nice or something. Prolly not. I heard somewhere that why cops always let you away with 10 over cause of that 10% error margin


If the camera is calibrated properly I doubt it will have a 10% margin of error.

You'll find this out if you ever made it to court, when you question the operator as to the margin of error, but I can't see it being 10% (As that doesn't seem fairly accurate).

3gec
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
If the camera is calibrated properly I doubt it will have a 10% margin of error.

You'll find this out if you ever made it to court, when you question the operator as to the margin of error, but I can't see it being 10% (As that doesn't seem fairly accurate).




10% error margin on the cars speedometer not the radar unit. That is what I meant.

notaturbotalon
Ask to see paperwork and proof that the machine was calibrated at all that day.




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