| REFLUX |
No, not Youth In Asia ;)
I'm talking about Mercy Killing, what is your take on it?
Right? Wrong? Depends on the situation?
How does it break down for you? |
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| ChromeDragon |
It all depends on the situation. I think that if it's the person's personal wishes then they should be granted. I don't know anybody that would want to live their life in a vegetative state.
If this is in regards to the woman on the news, I think that there are more humane ways to help her die. Having her starve to death isn't right. |
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| blown_mr2 |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
It all depends on the situation. I think that if it's the person's personal wishes then they should be granted. I don't know anybody that would want to live their life in a vegetative state.
If this is in regards to the woman on the news, I think that there are more humane ways to help her die. Having her starve to death isn't right.
I agree.
But regards to the woman, is that what they're doing? In this day of modern medicine, why would they use such an archaic method like starvation? |
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| REFLUX |
Yeah this topic was brought up by the Schiavo trial...
Sunil:
I believe it's because they are Catholic/Christian so it would be against their values to be an active part in killing her. Letting her starve/dehydrate is more passive, the thinking would go something like so:
"Dying of natural causes is fine, if you had a terminal illness and you died of that illness then it is ok. But purposefully killing yourself before dying naturally would be an act of murder/suicide (suicide = big no no to Catholics). So if her illness is an illness of not being able to feed herself, then she would be dying of that terminal illness."
hope that makes sense but I do agree, there are better & more humane ways to die. |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
Yeah this topic was brought up by the Schiavo trial...
Sunil:
I believe it's because they are Catholic/Christian so it would be against their values to be an active part in killing her. Letting her starve/dehydrate is more passive, the thinking would go something like so:
"Dying of natural causes is fine, if you had a terminal illness and you died of that illness then it is ok. But purposefully killing yourself before dying naturally would be an act of murder/suicide (suicide = big no no to Catholics). So if her illness is an illness of not being able to feed herself, then she would be dying of that terminal illness."
hope that makes sense but I do agree, there are better & more humane ways to die.
In the Schiavo trial there are too many issues that have clouded the situation.
Unfortunately there is no other mechanism to let her die. It has nothing to do with Christian/Catholic perspectives. The laws in her country do not allow actively killing her regardless of the situation. So you are left with pulling the plug (unfortunately it will be a slow drawn out death for her).
We then have an intense difference of opinions on how she should lead the last years of her life. Parents (keep feeding her) and spouse (let her die) on the other...... a 15 year long battle.
It is sad how it has become a legal/political battle. These issues should be decided within the family unit but unfortunately many things have caused special interest groups to get involved.
I pity any family that has to leave there personal decisions to the legal system. |
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| Bucktown |
i had to write a paper on this. (got an A+:D )
theres a group of nomadic tribes up north, where someone who is unable to pull their weight due to whatever reason wanders off, and starves themself to death instead of becoming a burden on their tribe. it is considered the noble thing to do.
i believe that we are a prisoners of our "bleeding hearts", and that is why there is such a big deal about euthanasia. for some cultures it is the respectable way to go, and for us it is barbaric and disrespectful. (you can eat a steak, but you cant kill the cow yourself)
there are two main types of euthanasia: active and passive. (fairly straightforward) active being when someone must take action to create a situation where death is possible (ie: pulling the plug) and passive (not plugging in in the first place, and allowing the disease, whatever to take its course.)
you need to decide for yourself which is worse. euthanasia, or the suffering. anytime religon comes into play, its definetly a touchy subject. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
It all depends on the situation. I think that if it's the person's personal wishes then they should be granted. I don't know anybody that would want to live their life in a vegetative state.
If this is in regards to the woman on the news, I think that there are more humane ways to help her die. Having her starve to death isn't right.
agreed. it should be up to the person suffering |
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| Markgase2000 |
| But at least show these people the "Reasons" that they should live before helping them die. We have to make sure its what they really want no if ands or buts. Then maybe. It scares me when people want to die. |
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| DC5PWR |
No one wants to live as a vegetable..
Pull the damn plug. I'd hope somebody would do it for me. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| This is why people should make their wills out. If it's in your will then there doesn't have to be any discussion about it. |
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| Markgase2000 |
I agree bein a vegetable/extreme chronic pain would be a burdon to loved ones and is no way to live. What Im saying is theres some people that just want to die nothin really wrong with them or terminal. Theres gotta be some way they can be shown that life has alot more to offer them and people love them more than they think. At least try for those poor tortured people them asking us to kill them may just be a cry for help or the person may be mentally ill. Thers so many loop holes so IMO when someone wants to die I say dig into it and make for damn sure it is the only way to give them peace.
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| POX |
Im torn on the issue because theres so much room for abuse wiht in it.
On one side i would like to have it ended if i was a veg.
But it can leads to so much abuse, a person can kill some one wiht some mental ilness or other problems and then just trun around and say it was for there own good when all they where doing is looking for the inshurcane money or property..
so i would have to say let it happen if its in your will |
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| slamdB |
If a person is in such pain that day to day life becomes unbearable, they should be granted mercy killing. By their choice of course, expressed by them. However, such as in the case of the Schiavo lady, she never had the chance to do such because of the conditions and so forth. Doctors give her zero chance for a recovery after being in a coma for over ten years. Legally, her husband has say over the matter, but all the media hubbub... Under this conditon sure, kill 'em. But not people who are suicidal, lord no. Give those people counseling and hope for the best.
It was digusting how they kept taking out and putting in and taking out and putting in and so forth. Pissed me off. |
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