| Markgase2000 |
| Well Im done with detailing. I have maxed it out the dealership cant pay me what I want so I must move on. I decided to get a trade. Hopefully after 10 years I can be an artist. I want to weld. |
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| 2003specv |
Do it. I love my job, and $30/hr (3rd year rate) ain't bad either. Neither is time and half Fridays, and double time Saturday/Sunday.
I make more than enough money to get by, and I decide how much I want to work. Last year I only worked 7 1/2 months.:D |
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| 2003specv |
| Kiss my ass fool! At least I don't collect EI. LOL:thefinger |
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| nissanz32 |
| Do you have to travel alot for work or are the jobs mainly based in Edmonton?I have always thought about welding but have just never taken the step. |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by nissanz32
Do you have to travel alot for work or are the jobs mainly based in Edmonton?I have always thought about welding but have just never taken the step.
Im just looking into it now , looking for a job that trains and sends you to school. |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
Do it. I love my job, and $30/hr (3rd year rate) ain't bad either. Neither is time and half Fridays, and double time Saturday/Sunday.
I make more than enough money to get by, and I decide how much I want to work. Last year I only worked 7 1/2 months.:D
What generally does a first year apprentice make? |
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| slamdB |
'Bout 10-13 buck an hour. If you're looking to make exceptional money welding, up north is the way to go. With oil prices on the rise, welder prices go up too. Some guys doing overhead B-pressure can make $100/hr with only 4 years of "education". When you take into consideration most guys do a month on and a month off, doing 14 hour days or so...you can do the math. It's up there.
Later |
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| Markgase2000 |
I will be taking a serious pay cut going into aprenticeship how long before you make decent money as an aprentice?
I make way more cleaning cars then $13hr. :( . |
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| 2003specv |
I don't know what non-union pays as I've always worked for union companies through Boilermakers Local 146, but shop and field rates are different.
If I remember corectly first year union shop rate is $14/hr, after my first year I started doing field work. Union second year field rate is ~$23/hr. My rate now is $28/hr, I round it off to $30 cause we get 10% vac. pay on top of that. And don't forget $5/hr ON TOP of all that into the pension (when working overtime your pension contribution also goes up to $7.50 for time+1/2 and $10 for double time). On a decent week putting $475 tax free into my pension is no big deal anymore. You also get paid for travel time.
When I work shutdowns and go hard for a month straight, I usually take home ~$2200 clear each week. On a regular work week (5 ten hour shifts) I normaly take home a little under $1000 per week. <- These numbers don't include pension contributions on top of that. Most of that work is close to home also, so I get field rate and I'm home every night.
As for the post above, those guys making $100 an hour have their own trucks and pay for their own supplies. The way I work with the Boilermakers is show up with steel toed boots and everything else is supplied. And I do more than well enough working in central Alberta (pulp mills, power plants, refineries, chemical plants) to be able to avoid Fort Mac for the most part. I'll do a stint up there if I need money, but I like to stay closer to home. Fort Mac ain't my thing. |
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| Markgase2000 |
| Thanks alot man you keep helping me out. If you have any information on how to go abouts finding a good union place to work that would help alot too ;) I really want to do this. Thanks again your alot of help. |
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| SaabKraft |
| my friend's done 1 year worth of training at GRB, and i think he's in the 14-15 range. he wants to go back soon and upgrade, but he seems pretty happy with the way his career is going. |
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| 2003specv |
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Originally posted by Markgase2000
Thanks alot man you keep helping me out. If you have any information on how to go abouts finding a good union place to work that would help alot too ;) I really want to do this. Thanks again your alot of help.
What I would do is go talk to union apprentice coordinators. You can weld for pipefitters, boilermakers, ironworkers, even electricians.
I'd say these three are your best bet though.
Pipefitters- http://www.local488.ca/
Boilermakers- http://www.boilermakers.ab.ca/
Ironworkers- http://www.ironworkers.org/locals/localdisplay.php
This site may shed some light on the whole apprenticeship training precess.
http://www.tradesecrets.org/
Keep in mind though, maybe union isn't for you. Personally I wouldn't want to work non-union, but lots of people have no problems with it. |
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| CanuckDave |
| so what are the prerequisites to get into a welding apprenticeship program? does anybody know off hand? |
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| slamdB |
| Yeah Fort Mac can be a really fun town, eh. Not to mention dirty fuckin' rig pigs. |
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| shorti |
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Originally posted by slamdB
Yeah Fort Mac can be a really fun town, eh. Not to mention dirty fuckin' rig pigs.
yeah no shit....
2 co-workers of mine got jumped at cowboys by 6 other guys over a cab ride. one of the co-workers had to get his ear sewn back on. fun stuff |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
| I bounce at a bar in Athabasca and for the last friggin month or so the hotel has been full of rig pigs... makes boucing the bar entertaining. |
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| REDX2NV |
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Originally posted by slamdB
Yeah Fort Mac can be a really fun town, eh. Not to mention dirty fuckin' rig pigs.
Sweet, im going up for 4 months:eek:
Cant be bad as everyone says it is, a few people i know who live there says its a good place but you gotta keep your cool. |
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| purevl |
| hey man, i'd highly suggest going for your pressure b ticket, the shops in town are crying for guys. I'm a journeyman at a boilermaker shop in town and get $25/hr, bit of a paycut from field rate but its steady work at home. |
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| CanuckDave |
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Originally posted by CanuckDave
so what are the prerequisites to get into a welding apprenticeship program? does anybody know off hand?
anybody? |
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| purevl |
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Originally posted by CanuckDave
anybody?
not really any, if you go through a union they send you to school and take care of everything, pretty sure most non union shops do the same thing. Just drop off a resume and let them know your interested in starting a welding apprenticeship. |
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| CanuckDave |
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Originally posted by purevl
not really any, if you go through a union they send you to school and take care of everything, pretty sure most non union shops do the same thing. Just drop off a resume and let them know your interested in starting a welding apprenticeship.
interesting.. thanks. I'm going to have to look into this. |
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| 2003specv |
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Originally posted by CanuckDave
anybody?
From the link.
To work as a Welder in Alberta, a person must be a registered apprentice or a certified journeyman.
Welders learn their skills by registering with Alberta Apprenticeship and Industry Training to participate in apprenticeship training and, upon successful completion, are awarded the Alberta Journeyman Certificate.
http://www.tradesecrets.org/ |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by purevl
I'm a journeyman at a boilermaker shop in town and get $25/hr, bit of a paycut from field rate but its steady work at home.
Just curious if that's a non-union shop. When I worked for Edmonton Exchanger, journeyman shop rate was $27 something. |
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| orangeteg |
You just need a proof of Grade 9 and the next thing is to find someone that wants to apprentice you.
1st year welder - 60%- $10 to 15
2nd year welder - 75%- $15 to 25
3rd year welder - 90%- $25 to 30
B-preassure welder - $35
This all depends on the shop you work for if you work for a union shop it's different. You get paid more but you have to remember you have to pay union dues too.
1st period
1595 hours - including work experience, attendance and passing the technical training
2nd period
1595 hours - including work experience, attendance and passing the technical training
3rd period
1595 hours - including work experience, attendance and passing the technical training
Journeyman certificate
Interprovincial examination for "Red Seal" |
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| purevl |
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Originally posted by 2003specv
Just curious if that's a non-union shop. When I worked for Edmonton Exchanger, journeyman shop rate was $27 something.
It's a union shop, there are no non-union boilermaker shops. Rate varies from shop to shop, depends on the contract. |
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| LeadBoots |
| Hey Mark your mom says get the job before you quit the one you got. |
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| 2003specv |
quote:
Originally posted by purevl
It's a union shop, there are no non-union boilermaker shops. Rate varies from shop to shop, depends on the contract.
Thats what I thought. I had just never heard of a boilermaker shop that only pays $25/hr to journeyman.:dunno:
Care to share which shop you work for? If you wanna keep it between brothers just PM me. |
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| KAOS41 |
| You should go take the welding pre-employment at GRB then try and get a job....anyone who starts in our shop as a first year spends their their time sweeping floors and doing grunt work.....if you want to make realy good money specialize in exotic metal tig welding their is huge cash in that like $50+ an hour and you are a employee.....Not to knock unions but I am not a big fan of them ....I am a manager in a welding shop so feel free to PM with any questions |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
I bounce at a bar in Athabasca and for the last friggin month or so the hotel has been full of rig pigs... makes boucing the bar entertaining.
hey working the rigs isn't pretty but the money makes it worth it, i'd reccomned it to any one who doesn't mind some hard work, plus theres lots of room for advancement, my driller is only 24 and he makes about 100g's a year, |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
heh I know thats the crazy for young guys here to get on the rigs for a season or two.
I ment it makes the bar interesting cause we get alot of rig crew Vs locals and crew Vs crew fights. |
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