| s2oooR |
Which would u rather have? Thinking about trading the car in.... :mellow:
Just day dreaming I guess? lol |
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| Pro Drag |
| I choose option C, the SRT-4. B) |
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| s2oooR |
| ....too bad....go make your own Poll! :P LOLOLOL |
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| GTS Jeff |
| different kinds of cars...s2k for lightweight handling fun....350z more as a muscle car |
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| Nightstalker |
| S2000, because the door handels on the Z look funny, and I like Honda better then Nissan. Even though the Z would likely kick the living crap out of a S2000 in 1/4 times.. there is about a 100Hp differance is there not ? |
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| Seks |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker@Dec 16 2002, 04:15 AM
S2000, because the door handels on the Z look funny, and I like Honda better then Nissan. Even though the Z would likely kick the living crap out of a S2000 in 1/4 times.. there is about a 100Hp differance is there not ?
Err no...
s2000 240 hp, almost 2800 lbs
350z 287 hp, almost 3300 lbs
1/4 miles time are close. |
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| SilverZ24 |
I think the S2000's are horible for daily driving. I haven't driven one, but by boss's buddy has one and says if you shift gears around 5000rpm you will have trouble keeping up with a chevette. And he says shifting much above that gets annoying on a daily basis especially if you are trying to talk on a cell phone on the way to work.
Plus there isn't enough opportunity in Edmonton for a convert. :( |
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| Seks |
quote:
I think the S2000's are horible for daily driving. _I haven't driven one, but by boss's buddy has one and
Can your boss' friend elaborate to us what he means by "horrible for daily driving"? If he means he wants major torque and hp at any rpm range and at any speed, he's obviously owning the wrong car.
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says if you shift gears around 5000rpm you will have trouble keeping up with a chevette.
:wtf:
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shifting much above that gets annoying on a daily basis especially if you are trying to talk on a cell phone on the way to wo
why the heck would you be in vtec land and gunning it, and talking on the cell at the same time?
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| redbaron303 |
I've heard from the honda dealers.... :| That you're supposed to shift at like 7500-8000rpm or close to that for a good ride. So in other words low shifts = crappy performance, somewhat like an undershift in a "normal" car...
I like both, but my first choice would the Z, like SilverZ24 said, theres little opportunity for a convertable in AB. Most years we get snow in Oct and finish in april or may... Leaving like 2-4 months of good convertable weather if it's nice outside.
They're both hot cars and theres nothing wrong with either one, I just don't see them being daily drivers... Drive something else from 9-5, then sports cars all night and on the weekends! |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Make mine a G35 :)
But given the choice between the two cars, the 350Z.
It's more livable, and a big fat powerband, short shift, redline shift, you'll still go fast.
Try thing, go up a hill in 4th or 5th and see what happens in a S2000... Can you say "BLAAAAaaaaaaa~~* -_- "
The Z will have enough grunt to pull you up the hill without shifting.
Personally, I hate shifting the gearbox like a martini to stay in the powerband. |
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| SilverZ24 |
Well, "horible" might have been a strong word, but he just didn't like the car. He ordered one without driving so he didn't really know what he was getting. The car has long since been replaced with an Audi TT which he likes better.
As for the poor accelaration when shifting low, I can't remember which magazine it was (something like C&D or Motortrend) but one of them had mentioned that they tested the 0-60mph when just shifting at 5 or 6000rpm and it took like 11 seconds. The car just doesn't have any pull down low.
I was just saying that for the reasons I stated, I would go for the 3350Z. I also personally think it looks better. Plus I'm also personally not a huge fan of peaky engines. |
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| s2oooR |
Yeah, both cars arent really daily drivers...if i had the Z, Id probably park that one in the winter too....so either way, your only getting 4-6 months out of any of the cars....
As far as 0-60 and 1/4 mile times...both are very similar....
Handling wise....I hope the S takes it :P |
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| REFLUX |
i like the s2000's looks more
HARDTOP!!!!! :D |
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| s2oooR |
| I dont nkow how the 350Z'll handle though....liike i mean...damn thats a heavy car!.......id rather have a car that handles well than just goes fast in a straight line, u know? |
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| GTS Jeff |
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Originally posted by Seks@Dec 16 2002, 10:52 AM
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I think the S2000's are horible for daily driving. _I haven't driven one, but by boss's buddy has one and
Can your boss' friend elaborate to us what he means by "horrible for daily driving"? If he means he wants major torque and hp at any rpm range and at any speed, he's obviously owning the wrong car.
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says if you shift gears around 5000rpm you will have trouble keeping up with a chevette.
:wtf:
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shifting much above that gets annoying on a daily basis especially if you are trying to talk on a cell phone on the way to wo
why the heck would you be in vtec land and gunning it, and talking on the cell at the same time?
haha trust me man...close ratio gearbox + only top end power makes daily driving a little harder. my car, tho not exactly an s2k, has really close ratio gearing and only has power from 5000 up to 7500...
it sucks the only 2 ways to stay even with a minivan off the lights is to re to 6 grand or speedshift at 4 grand...
then again, high rpms are fun so im not complaining :mellow: |
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| s2oooR |
I think everyone is making a mistake that Seks and I are thinking of our cars or the 350Z for that matter, as everyday daily drivers....heck, I barely drive my car! hahahaha....
How many ppl would change their vote if they knew it woudlnt be their everyday driver?
just curious....does everyone in here love drag racing more than "circuit" racing? Maybe straightline speed is all anyone is looking for nowadays?
Ugh, such a tough call.....dont know if i should trade it in or not....minus my mods...i'll auction those off :P
Seks, what do u think? |
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| s2oooR |
the back looks yucky on the Z though....
THen again, the front looks nice....
dammit, if the car didnt weigh so much, i think this'd be an easier decision...LOL |
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| s2oooR |
| ya u know what? I just looked at my S and yup....looks nicer IMO ...lol....Plus, once u go convertible, u never go back...hahahaha.... |
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| redbaron303 |
I love both cars, however i favor the Z. The Z lineup has proven it's self over and over again since 1970 in circut racing, rally racing, and drag racing; it just depends how you modify the car, I'm sure the new Z will be a great race car on a circut or 1/4 mile. the point is that the Z lineup is one of the longest going import lines of sports cars that has been available in North America, so I think it deserves a lot of credit for helping to open the doors for all the other import manufacturers!
I think the s2k is a good competitor in the import sports market. I'd buy either the Z or the S2k over the Porsche Boxster S, Audi TT, Benz SLK-AMG or any of the more expensive competitors... I think both offer pretty decent bang for buck. Great appearance, handling, braking, reliability... the works from what I've read :) I hope that one day I'll be able to back my thoughts up by going for a ride (or driving) either of my choices :)
You know, you guys are right, once you go convert, you can't go back... hell I hav t-tops and I need a car with an enormus sunroof (sorry moonroof) or t-tops, it's just not the same without them. |
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| s2oooR |
Yeah, its not the same hey? LOL.....convertibles are something else on a hot sunny day.......
have any of you driven at night with the top down on a really warm night? (i.e like this past summer when we had that heat wave?).....Nothing beats that feeling, IMO. B) Ugh! when's summer gonna roll around?! |
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| GTS Jeff |
2 things.
s2k has also proven itself with its long heritage of pimpin it large
and theres sposed to be a convertable 350z coming out |
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| s2oooR |
the convertible 350'll never beat the S! LOL.....first of all....the hard top is already ~times as the S....plus, it'll be even heavier with all the extra mechanisms....
Just my opinion :P |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Uhm, The Z motor also has something that the S will NEVER have...
OFF THE LINE TORQUE :thefinger: :P
I think it would still be closer than you think, if they give the Z a light manual top, it will work wonders. |
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| s2oooR |
We launch at 7000rpms anyways....we're always in VTEC when we race....makes no difference if we have no torque in low rpms...
high powerband means we save gas around the city :P ....try telling that to a Z350 owner :P |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
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Originally posted by s2oooR@Dec 18 2002, 03:01 PM
We launch at 7000rpms anyways....we're always in VTEC when we race....makes no difference if we have no torque in low rpms...
high powerband means we save gas around the city :P ....try telling that to a Z350 owner :P
Yeah, that just means you lose time shifting... Torque makes all the difference, go take a Z or a G for a test drive, it'll change the way you think :)
High poser/powerband just means you lose more gas when you rev it up :D |
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| s2oooR |
yes, thats true.....but u only do that when your having some fun with it..... :P
You wanna go to the dealership to check it out? see if they'll even do the swap? lol.....id like to test drive it for sure.
....More important that drag racing though, how does teh car handle? I find it hard to believe 3300 pounds handles all that well....just the weight transfer on that thing must be huge, IMO |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Hey, lookat the Skyline :)
Yeah, for sure we should go in, might be hard to secure a test drive, but we'll see what happens :) |
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| Genki |
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Dec 18 2002, 03:05 PM
High poser/powerband just means you lose more gas when you rev it up :D
also more stress :) |
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| s2oooR |
| why, how much does the skyline weigh? imagine if that thing was any lighter? damnnnnnnnn |
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| s2oooR |
Ugh! and u wanted me to carry on a 100lb sand bag when we race at Fast Track?lol Those numbers prove that weight has nothign to do with it!
Is the 350Z have the same platform/chasis as the R34? |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
| I don't think so... |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by s2oooR@Dec 19 2002, 02:25 PM
Is the 350Z have the same platform/chasis as the R34?
No. But the 350Z/G35 platform is supposed to be shared with the next generation Skyline. |
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| s2oooR |
| Do i have to change my name if i pick it up? lol |
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| uncle ben |
| i had to pick the 350z, just seems more all around practical. You can drive it in the winter (hardtop) plus its a nice quiet drive. Looks good, and has allot of potential (just think about the track model). Where as the s2000 seems to more of a weekend car in the summertime, something you take out for the sole purpose of driving pleasure, then you park it when the rain starts falling and the engine noise is about to make your ear drums bleed. Plus my fat ass needs nissans spacious interior, you know the car is too small for you when you need to take your keys out of your pocket BEFORE you get into the car. Just my 2 cents, either car is sweet. |
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| s2oooR |
| all about preference, i guess? Did u read my post on my impressions of it? ....But your right...the 350 is WAY more practical than the S2000.... :bigthumbup: |
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| uncle ben |
| yeah i read your post, in fact the only experience i've had with either car is I sat in a s2000 once, and i've only seen the 350z, so my opinion's only based on a few small crumbs of information. Some of those crumbs being your review on the 350. Either way, i can only dream of owning either car right now, maybe in 5 or 6 years from now. :( |
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| dogstar |
given the choice, id take 350z, and i would daily drive it.
cars, sports cars in particular are meant to be driven, and enjoyed :P
i figure if i can afford 40-80k for a nice car, im going to drive it and love it every second that i can.
should be ashamed of yourself for barely driving a s2k, lol
j/k, sorta. ;)
as far as handling, all the reviews ive read on the 350z say it handles like a dream, absolutely amazing composure and grip, with great balance and turn in.
apparenly the felt weight is much lower than curb side numbers would have you belive.
just gotta keep in mind, these guys have driven ferraris and vipers and all kind of exotics, and some of them are getting hard ons for a "lowly" nissan... thats got to tell you something. :D |
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| s2oooR |
dont believe all the hype....u gotta drive both cars and see how it feels to you....
I have to say though that its alot easier to drive the 350Z because of the torque transfer control (or whatever u call it) when u "accidentally" understeer or oversteer.....helps out alot if your not that familiar with taking corners at higher speeds....
Everyone has different driving styles, mine just doesnt fit with the 350, thats all :P .....
Like i said, my biggest pet peeve on that car was the clutch....so damn high! I dont care what anyone says....having a high clutch isnt prone to fast driving just because the travel between shifts is THAT much longer....not to mention, making rev-matching and heel-toe, that much more harder......if u get a chance to test drive it....you'll know what i mean....the clutch is higher than any car ive driven...I asked if it can be changed, but no one knew... |
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