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Kyle2K
has anyone heard of these? i think they're a real good idea, and im not sure they would be such a bad idea to have around edmonton. they seem to be working pretty good in the vancouver area.

they are some pretty sweet videos and more info at http://www.baitcar.com/

h22civic
We need those here......badly.:(

jihad
yeah these would be awesome to have in edmonton

Altezza
Yeah that would be a great idea rig a car up to be stolen then bam your busted one of the better ideas the cops came up with :rolleyes:

shorti
to avoid the high speed chases afterwards they should install something the remotly turns the engine off.
also how the hell did the driver only get 2 years in jail?
he stole a truck, ran more than 2 stop signs, was driving more than double the speed limit more than once, wasn't wearing his seatbelt, evaded arrest.....
he got off easy

Cody D
quote:
Originally posted by shorti
to avoid the high speed chases afterwards they should install something the remotly turns the engine off.


I was under the impression that most do have remote kill switches, I know on that baitcar.com site there are a couple videos where it says "Car was remotely disabled" and then the guy would start freaking out.

Very funny stuff.

newtuner
YA I think the whole point is to keep the guy inside the car. They let him drive a couple of blocks then the car dies and the doors lock. Some even have speakers inside so the cops can let the guy know he's busted. We should get these here, Hell I'll help fund raise for this, better than some other ideas the cops have come up with. I think ours should have built in tasers in the seat, just incase the guy fights it. HA HA

Kyle2K
lol, ya im up for the taser idea too.... and shorti, the whole point of having a bait car is so they can remotely shut it off and not risk a pursuit.

the cops let them drive a few blocks because i believe the people at the police station tell the patrol cars that one of the bait cars has been started, then a few patrol cars find it, radio the station and they turn it off.

i would also fund raise for this cause newtuner

JustinL
Oh man, That's beautiful. It brings me such joy to watch those crooks panic when they realize how screwed they actually are.

shorti
quote:
Originally posted by Kyle2K
and shorti, the whole point of having a bait car is so they can remotely shut it off and not risk a pursuit.



did you even watch the video from that link?
was it just me or did they drive away.....speeding.....getting chased.....still speeding with a working engine.....then they ditched the car......

SilverNeonRacer
quote:
Originally posted by shorti
did you even watch the video from that link?
was it just me or did they drive away.....speeding.....getting chased.....still speeding with a working engine.....then they ditched the car......


Ya but if you read the caption below the video it states that was a training issue and there where 2 times the engine didn't get turned off, and they they have re-trained all the officers involved since.

Kyle2K
quote:
Originally posted by shorti
did you even watch the video from that link?
was it just me or did they drive away.....speeding.....getting chased.....still speeding with a working engine.....then they ditched the car......

yes i watched it, i have seen all of the videos on the left hand side, and none of them involve a chase. did i miss one?

SilverNeonRacer
quote:
Originally posted by Kyle2K
yes i watched it, i have seen all of the videos on the left hand side, and none of them involve a chase. did i miss one?

I think this one was on the right... ok center scroll down on the main page to below "Bait cars make the news"


here

ChromeDragon
I think that one guy is who they modelled the "Oh no" guy on Saturday Night Live after.:lol:

newtuner
Who would have to pay for the cars,( I know when it boils down to it we have to pay for everything as taxpayers). I know myself I have had my cars broken into 4 different times, aswell as all the time I have read here that somebodies car was trashed. If you watch Global in the morning they say how many cars were stolen the day before. On average it's like 20 to 25 cars EVERY day. Which city department would be the ones looking into buying these types of cars? This might be a good cause for 780tuners as a group to push. Nobody on here could say this doesn't effect me. What do you guys think?

BananaBoy
Great Idea! I saw one clip with a bait car that had a GPS system and a camera inside. They didn't even have to stake out the car, just came by and pick the theif up the next day, or even better lead them to a secret chop shop.

Kyle2K
quote:
Originally posted by newtuner
This might be a good cause for 780tuners as a group to push.
i agree, but what could we actually do about it? of course we could go to a city meeting or whatever, but do u think many people would go for the idea of spending $Millions on the program?

one suggestion of mine, how about we dont spend millions for the queen to come to Alberta, and spend it on somthing for the people of Albera (like this baitcar program). The queen can fricken pay for herself if she wants to come here, not like shes not a billionair or anything.

Kyle2K
just wanted to bring this thread back to life after hearing the EPS is thinking of investing in these bait cars... hope it pulls through :thumbup:

SketchifisT
We have bait cars in vancouver and they work but the thing that happend , is bait cars are in high crime areas for us like Surrey for you West Ed. Well what happend was car theives stopped hittin those spots and went to other places. In general thefts are not really down. In the high areas yes they are but now we are loosin a lot nicer cars out in our richer areas because the cops are stuck on the high crime areas.

Its a great idea and should be everywhere but , Evil prevails and if they really want to steal car , going 10 mins out of the way and into an area without a chance of being caught they will probably do that

Nightstalker
Well all they would have to do is get a 2000 civic SIR. That car would be stolen with in a week from west ed for sure.

DeathBy240
If you guys really want one, contact your city councillor.

http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/serve...ors/Default.htm

BlueTurboEGG
Wasn't there a blip about this on the news yesterday about starting a bait car program in the city?.

They showed the now infamous meth-head video during this segment (screaming and flailing wildly while ripping around at 123 kms/h)

Or were they just talking about it?. I think the bait car is a great idea personally.

edmCRX
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
Oh man, That's beautiful. It brings me such joy to watch those crooks panic when they realize how screwed they actually are.


I couldn't have said it better.

tokes
The cars they use are ones that have been seized by police.

gab
there was a similar project done in regina and it worked for a while. they used a neon, an intrepid and a caravan. there was alot of work done to convert the vehicles to be "bait". the only problem that came up was after a while, the guys that were stealing alot of cars became wise to which vehicles they were, and the bait cars became ineffective. i know they were trying to swap vehicles with other major centers to keep the cars effective. if that was the case, edmonton should get involved.

JdmCrx
quote:
Originally posted by Nightstalker
Well all they would have to do is get a 2000 civic SIR. That car would be stolen with in a week from west ed for sure.


Fuck that.. an Integra Type R would get stolen before the engine got cold. :thumbdown

Blue_teg
to avoid the high speed chases afterwards they should install something the remotly turns the engine off.
also how the hell did the driver only get 2 years in jail?
he stole a truck, ran more than 2 stop signs, was driving more than double the speed limit more than once, wasn't wearing his seatbelt, evaded arrest.....
he got off easy

quoteing shotti

when you get caught for something on that they dont charge you for all the small crimes they focus on the biggest crime becasue lawyers can get you out of all of those smaller ones easily.

DeathBy240
quote:
Originally posted by Blue_teg
to avoid the high speed chases afterwards they should install something the remotly turns the engine off.
also how the hell did the driver only get 2 years in jail?
he stole a truck, ran more than 2 stop signs, was driving more than double the speed limit more than once, wasn't wearing his seatbelt, evaded arrest.....
he got off easy

quoteing shotti

when you get caught for something on that they dont charge you for all the small crimes they focus on the biggest crime becasue lawyers can get you out of all of those smaller ones easily.



In Canada, sentences are served concurrently, not consecutively. If he got two years for theft over $5k he wouldnt have to serve the sentences for anything less than two years. In the US, terms are often consecutive, that's why you see serial killers get 300+ years in jail.

DoubleDown
Are there any statistics to show that this type of program actually lowered the number of cars stolen, in any given city, over any given time period? I realize they'll catch more thieves this way, but that's not the important number to be looking at.

Vehicle owners will certainly be the ones paying for the bait cars in some form or another. The only people that have a vested interest in stopping the thefts are the owners, and the city (ie: tax money).

- Mike

dance_of_curse
set up your own bait car and have an auto lock..so it locks him in. and call the police and wait...knowing how long they take in the city....hed be there a few days:p

sneakyCIVIC
yeah we should have bait cars but with plexi windows and flame throwers inside. to burn those bastards alive instead of giving them 2 years to sit in a thinking cell to figure out how many more cars they can steal or break into when they get out. i'll pay taxes to see them burn anyday.

CJDP
Anyone know what the cost would be to put that in your car?
Like 3-4g?
I would think it's a worthy to you, i know if my car ever gets stolen and wrecked...wow..I'd be like NOOOOOOOOO MONICA!!!

JdmCrx
quote:
Originally posted by CJDP
Anyone know what the cost would be to put that in your car?
Like 3-4g?
I would think it's a worthy to you, i know if my car ever gets stolen and wrecked...wow..I'd be like NOOOOOOOOO MONICA!!!




bahaha :lol:

Fish_e_o
truck didn't turn off because it was a diesel and it was running when they tried to turn it off remotely

personally i love the idea!!!

they might even think about putting some subs in the back of one or like a psp on the dash...


damn crack heads deserve to be caught i love this site!!!

i get much joy from it!!!:lol: :lol:

advisory
precisely the reason people should install fuel cutoff switches or other control devices




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