| crazyrx7 |
Thats not too bad. It does have a lot of km for that price.
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| n0c7 |
| Not bad considering the previous gen of supra's can still go for up to that price. |
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| DSM |
quote:
Originally posted by n0c7
Not bad considering the previous gen of supra's can still go for up to that price.
How do you figure? |
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| Trowa |
quote:
Originally posted by n0c7
Not bad considering the previous gen of supra's can still go for up to that price.
i have NEVER seen an MK3 supra go for more then $15K......and even then it has to have over $30K invested in it.....
but that looks like a good price for a clean car....
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| 2003specv |
You know what pisses me off? Is how Supra's and 300ZX's sold for a similar price in the mid 90's and now Supra's are selling for twice what you'll pay for a decent 300. I know they never sold MKIV's here, but look in the states it's the same thing. I hope when they become legal for import from Japan it'll drive the prices down.
I'm sure part of it has to do with Fast and the Furious tax.:mad: |
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| Supra_devil |
thats a good price for sure. stock maybe not, but it has 18's and BPU so its probably pushing 410 or more at the wheels.
if i had the money i'd buy it right now. |
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| crazyrx7 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003specv
You know what pisses me off? Is how Supra's and 300ZX's sold for a similar price in the mid 90's and now Supra's are selling for twice what you'll pay for a decent 300. I know they never sold MKIV's here, but look in the states it's the same thing. I hope when they become legal for import from Japan it'll drive the prices down.
I'm sure part of it has to do with Fast and the Furious tax.:mad:
I totally agree with you. Before I bought my fd I was going to buy my ex's brothers supra. It was black on black with 45000km and in mint condition. He only wanted $34000 for it. The only problem was that I still had to sell my super charged maxima. Well needless to say he sold it before I sold my car. And then a couple of months later the movie the fast and the furious came out and the supra pretty much doubled in price. So I settled for 2nd best; the fd; and never looked back. Don't get me wrong the supra is a great car but not $35000-85000 great. For those prices you can get a better car with warrenty.
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| DelSoln |
| This car has been on the revscene marketplace forever and it is an auto. |
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| hockeyboy77 |
| it says it's a 6 speed |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Hope it runs fast because you can definatly buy a brand new car for that price |
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| Supra_devil |
the fast and furious did contribute to the price increase for a while. the main reason its expensive is because its desirable.
As i already said, with BPU (basic performance upgrades) that he says he has, it will have at least 400 hp.
quote Neo-Blue99GASE "Hope it runs fast because you can definatly buy a brand new car for that price "
does your new car run a 5.1 sec 0-60, 13.5 1/4 mile at 107 mph, pull .97 G's, and get a fun factor of 97.29 from motor trend? and to quote the article exactly, "I'd even walk right past the new ZR-1 to grab the Toyota keys."
seriously, its a performance car, its not meant for those that will look at the price, its for the person that appreciates a fine vehicle and a serious performance potential. i could link you to dozens of sites with 600hp+ Supras with stock motor internals and no headwork (port, polish, or larger valves).
oh and it was $44,000 USD new, so thats $54,000 CAD today, but our dollar is much stronger today then it was in 94. |
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| newred |
you tell, man.
Supra are da Shit....... |
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| turbo_dave |
IMO it was way ahead of it's time ,Toyota could release it today and it would still look modern. With that said, a car is worth as much as your willing to spend :), i know if i had the money i'd buy one.
I wouldn't mind owning an auto either, IIRC they are faster and if you decide you wanna make huge power you pretty much have to run auto. I also recal that it is popular to swap in older Gm trannies like the turbo 400 and the powerglide for drag racing purposes. |
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| noriceforme |
| imo, thats a killer dealer. if you can drop the cash then you can obviously can drop money into things that need fixing, so who needs warranty anyways. |
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| n0c7 |
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Originally posted by DSM
How do you figure?
Seen a couple in the past few years go for OUTRAGEOUS prices, but they were near mint. |
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| crazyrx7 |
I'm pretty sure that the MKIV supra sold for almost $70000 brand new here in Canada. But I might be mistaken. You can't base the prices on cars on what the americans pay on new cars as they are always way cheaper.
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| Insomniac |
$70k to 80k. About the same as a Lexus SC400 of the same vintage if I remember correctly.
These cars are a good comparison. Same platform basically. One typically sells for about $15k now, the other in the high 30s |
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| n0c7 |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
$70k to 80k. About the same as a Lexus SC400 of the same vintage if I remember correctly.
These cars are a good comparison. Same platform basically. One typically sells for about $15k now, the other in the high 30s
Agreed, and for the prices I've seen, those were about 5 years back.. must be getting senile. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Supra_devil, you can get pretty similar preformance brand new out of an STI. And that is with a vehicle with 0 kms on its back, this one is running what, 140k? Trust me, ive read enough car magazines to know the potential of a TT supra, but then again, making over 600 hp on stock internals usually means one thing, a big huge ass turbo and guys running nitrous just to make up for the lag, IMO, not a good daily driver. Id say, if you got 35G's laying around, buy it, mod it and then drive it for 4 months out of the year. Im sorry, ive seen far too many supra's in mags that have owners with way too much money or sacrifice everything just to have that car with all the shit, then to really care if someone here wants to do the same. Turbo Dave is also correct in the assumption that most heavy modded supra's run beafy GM trannys to get the real good times. I know ive read about one in the states that at full weight and running a stick runs into the 9's. Damn impressive id say as the damn car weighs a ton. Supposidly he has plans for a Gm tranny swap and more major engine work to run 8's. |
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| Supra_devil |
you know what, i typed up something and posted it. but i'm editing it since i can't delete it.
i really can't change your opinion by talking online. Nor do i expect to. You have your opinion, i have mine.
I will add that my opinion is backed by 5 years of living in the Supra world, and anyone in the supra club will back me up when i say i know most of my shit.
i'm done in this thread, someone asked if it was a good deal, not if he should by an STI to get similar #'s. |
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| CryoSlash |
| I saw a completely mint MK3 with 250 recorded miles go for 20 k CDN. It was pretty pimp to see it. |
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| tokes |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Supra_devil, you can get pretty similar preformance brand new out of an STI. And that is with a vehicle with 0 kms on its back, this one is running what, 140k? Trust me, ive read enough car magazines to know the potential of a TT supra, but then again, making over 600 hp on stock internals usually means one thing, a big huge ass turbo and guys running nitrous just to make up for the lag, IMO, not a good daily driver. Id say, if you got 35G's laying around, buy it, mod it and then drive it for 4 months out of the year. Im sorry, ive seen far too many supra's in mags that have owners with way too much money or sacrifice everything just to have that car with all the shit, then to really care if someone here wants to do the same. Turbo Dave is also correct in the assumption that most heavy modded supra's run beafy GM trannys to get the real good times. I know ive read about one in the states that at full weight and running a stick runs into the 9's. Damn impressive id say as the damn car weighs a ton. Supposidly he has plans for a Gm tranny swap and more major engine work to run 8's.
I agree that a zero miles STI makes more sense, but not about the horribly laggy turbos to make 600 horsepower.
That is a shitload of powerband for 730 WHP.
I don't think I could bring myself to buy an 11 year old car with 150 thousand KM's on it for 35 grand, I just couldn't do it. |
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| ehrgeiz |
| Exactly, I wouldn't buy an 11 year old car 35g either. |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by ehrgeiz
Exactly, I wouldn't buy an 11 year old car 35g either.
i could bring myself to buy an 11 year old car for 35g its just that common sense should come before anything else. although its a car that ive wanted since forever so at most id put down is about 25-30g depending on condition |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by ehrgeiz
Exactly, I wouldn't buy an 11 year old car 35g either.
i could bring myself to buy an 11 year old car for 35g its just that common sense should come before anything else. although its a car that ive wanted since forever so at most id put down is about 25-30g depending on condition |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| Supra_devil, I do respect your opinion but im with some of the others and cant justify spending that much on a used car, but maybe thats just because I dont even come close to making that in a year. As for the dyno, agreed, that is impressive, but the guy still needs 4000 rpms just to make any power, that and the fact he redlines at 7700 rpms, just doesnt seem large enough of a powerband to me as it only gives him 3700 rpms worth of usable power which is less than half of his rpm range. I kinda wish he had a more flexible range, but thats only nitpicking as he probably runs 10's which I'll definatly admit, a number I will never have a chance of getting close to so huge prop's to the supra. That said, hes still running massive donuts around my 6000 rpm car. Hehehe, I only wish I could have an LS7 with a 7100 rpm pushrod in my car. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Trowa
i have NEVER seen an MK3 supra go for more then $15K
You better qualify that statement somehow. Nice used MK3 turbos were still going for well over $20k 5-6 years ago. Did you have your head in the sand back then, or were you still in diapers? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Trust me, ive read enough car magazines to know
If you know so much about cars, why the heck are you still driving a Pontiac Grand Am.... and not as your beater car either, but as your main ride, that you've pimped out? :dunno::p |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Supra_devil
oh and it was $44,000 USD new, so thats $54,000 CAD today, but our dollar is much stronger today then it was in 94.
Cars are never priced across the US & Canadian borders exactly by an exchange rate factor only. Some are closer than others, but sports cars and other specialty vehicles can be way off.
As was mentioned the MKIV Supra Turbos did not sell for the $US dollar amount with exchange here in Canada. They sold for $70K+ CDN, which is no wonder Toyota Canada couldn't sell many here. |
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| newred |
i still would pick a supra over any car that, any body own on this site.
And u would pay $35k or more for a 93 Supra VS a 93 300z that you can buy for around $20K any day...
Supra are the KING. |
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Supra_devil, you can get pretty similar preformance brand new out of an STI. And that is with a vehicle with 0 kms on its back, this one is running what, 140k? Trust me, ive read enough car magazines to know the potential of a TT supra, but then again, making over 600 hp on stock internals usually means one thing, a big huge ass turbo and guys running nitrous just to make up for the lag, IMO, not a good daily driver. Id say, if you got 35G's laying around, buy it, mod it and then drive it for 4 months out of the year. Im sorry, ive seen far too many supra's in mags that have owners with way too much money or sacrifice everything just to have that car with all the shit, then to really care if someone here wants to do the same. Turbo Dave is also correct in the assumption that most heavy modded supra's run beafy GM trannys to get the real good times. I know ive read about one in the states that at full weight and running a stick runs into the 9's. Damn impressive id say as the damn car weighs a ton. Supposidly he has plans for a Gm tranny swap and more major engine work to run 8's.
A 100,000km Supra with 500 - 600hp would last a lot longer than a 5- 600hp STI. & that is with the Supra run Stock tranny & engine.
Also like (Inzane) said you don't know shit. There is more the one 6speed supra running in the 9's & that is a stock 6speed tranny.
I would like to see a STI run those numbers on a stock tranny, or even run close to those numbers.
Just because you read one or two magazines, you think that you know all about supra’s & STI:blink: I think you should stick to some thing you do know about
(GM shit)
I don't intend to be mean, so have a nice day. And enjoy ur ride..:bthumbup: |
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| Trowa |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
You better qualify that statement somehow. Nice used MK3 turbos were still going for well over $20k 5-6 years ago. Did you have your head in the sand back then, or were you still in diapers?
What's the problem with my statement? i said "I" never seen them never said they didn't go for that price
he said: "Not bad considering the previous gen of supra's can still go for up to that price" ie today, and 5-6 years ago is not right now, there's such a thing as depreciation....5-6 years ago they might have costed that but not anymore...and u know what 15 years ago they cost $35K+ but not anymore
and my age has nothing to do with anything... |
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| GOT BOOST |
:wavey: It is starting to get a little toasty in here! :D
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| crazyrx7 |
Bottom line is we all agree that the supra is a great car. It all comes down to whether or not you feel like spending $35000 on a 11 year old car. The choice is yours.
R.K. |
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| CryoSlash |
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Originally posted by crazyrx7
Bottom line is we all agree that the supra is a great car. It all comes down to whether or not you feel like spending $35000 on a 11 year old car. The choice is yours.
R.K.
Finally, someone who didn't get the flamethrower out :D |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Trowa
What's the problem with my statement? i said "I" never seen them never said they didn't go for that price
he said: "Not bad considering the previous gen of supra's can still go for up to that price" ie today, and 5-6 years ago is not right now, there's such a thing as depreciation....5-6 years ago they might have costed that but not anymore...and u know what 15 years ago they cost $35K+ but not anymore
and my age has nothing to do with anything...
You said "NEVER" with such conviction. Perhaps you don't understand what it means to qualify a statement. You could've said "I've NEVER seen a MK3 go for more than $15k in the last xx " months/years... whatever. How was anyone to know if you were talking about the last 6 months? The last year? last 2 years? WHAT?
Age has everything to do with your perspective. Where were you when MK3's were new? Where were you when they were ~ 5 years old? Where are you now? |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
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Bottom line is we all agree that the supra is a great car. It all comes down to whether or not you feel like spending $35000 on a 11 year old car. The choice is yours
Agreed. Im not, but others who have that kind of cash might. As for why I drive a GA, its because I like it and most dont modify it and because of many other reasons ive mentioned many times before. |
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| Trowa |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
You said "NEVER" with such conviction. Perhaps you don't understand what it means to qualify a statement. You could've said "I've NEVER seen a MK3 go for more than $15k in the last xx " months/years... whatever. How was anyone to know if you were talking about the last 6 months? The last year? last 2 years? WHAT?
Age has everything to do with your perspective. Where were you when MK3's were new? Where were you when they were ~ 5 years old? Where are you now?
ok this is a stupid argument, and i'm sure most ppl understood what i was trying to say...
and i'm sorry that my comment was not up to ur standard :rolleyes: :p
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by crazyrx7
Bottom line is we all agree that the supra is a great car. It all comes down to whether or not you feel like spending $35000 on a 11 year old car. The choice is yours.
R.K.
This is why http://www.fatkidracing.com/videos/saad9222.wmv
NO Auto just a 3900lb 6 speed:bthumbup: |
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| Sxn |
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Originally posted by newaccorddriver
i could bring myself to buy an 11 year old car for 35g its just that common sense should come before anything else. although its a car that ive wanted since forever so at most id put down is about 25-30g depending on condition
for a car that u wanted since forever
u would only pay 25-30 for?
holy shit ur standards are fucked
most ppl who actually wanted it since "forever" know the value of it. |
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by Sxn
for a car that u wanted since forever
u would only pay 25-30 for?
holy shit ur standards are fucked
most ppl who actually wanted it since "forever" know the value of it.
Good Point... |
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| crazyrx7 |
quote:
Originally posted by newred
This is why http://www.fatkidracing.com/videos/saad9222.wmv
NO Auto just a 3900lb 6 speed:bthumbup:
Thats Saads car. He probably has close to $100000 into his supra. He was selling it on the suprastore.com website for a while. Nice car but still needs a lot of money. You can get most japanese supercars that fast (fd, 300zxtt, supra) for that money.
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| Sxn |
quote:
Originally posted by crazyrx7
Thats Saads car. He probably has close to $100000 into his supra. He was selling it on the suprastore.com website for a while. Nice car but still needs a lot of money. You can get most japanese supercars that fast (fd, 300zxtt, supra) for that money.
R.K.
100 g's for that car? wheels.. roll cage etc
or just to get a car to that amount of power? |
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| crazyrx7 |
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Originally posted by Sxn
100 g's for that car? wheels.. roll cage etc
or just to get a car to that amount of power?
Just to get a car like that and to have the power it has. Just look on suprastore.com and piece together a car like that and it will cost you close to $100 000 cdn.
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by crazyrx7
Thats Saads car. He probably has close to $100000 into his supra. He was selling it on the suprastore.com website for a while. Nice car but still needs a lot of money. You can get most japanese supercars that fast (fd, 300zxtt, supra) for that money.
R.K.
yOU don't call a 9sec street car a super car. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| what do you call it then |
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| dsl55 |
| I think anything under 10.00 in the 1/4 that is streetable is a supercar :dunno: |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| thats my thinkin.... |
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| crazyrx7 |
No I don't think that a civic or a prelude or anything else front wheel drive from Japan is a super car. A super car is a car that has phenominal performance numbers right from the factory. A 10s car is just that a 10s car. So it goes great in a straight line but what about the other characteristics like handling braking and so on. Hense cars like the fd, 300zxtt, nsx, skyline and supra are the japanese supercars. You kids have to understand that there is more to a car than how fast it is in a quarter mile.
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| CryoSlash |
quote:
Originally posted by crazyrx7
You kids have to understand that there is more to a car than how fast it is in a quarter mile.
R.K.
Couldn't have said it any better. And Saad's Supra is the Shit. For the record. off note, Did anyone see the Blitz Supra lap times on nurburing? Was pretty close to the Ferraris and Lambo and all of those "real supercars" with 3 to four times the book value. |
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by crazyrx7
No I don't think that a civic or a prelude or anything else front wheel drive from Japan is a super car. A super car is a car that has phenominal performance numbers right from the factory. A 10s car is just that a 10s car. So it goes great in a straight line but what about the other characteristics like handling braking and so on. Hense cars like the fd, 300zxtt, nsx, skyline and supra are the japanese supercars. You kids have to understand that there is more to a car than how fast it is in a quarter mile.
R.K.
I'm not saying a prelude or a civic is a Super Car. Shit no, but a nine sec Supra is. Sure it's fast in a quarter mile, but it still is a street car & it can do corners. It isn't like the old Muscle car that can't turn. Those supra a stock suspension or some thing likes tein suspension.
But u is right when you say that (cars like the fd, 300zxtt, nsx, skyline and supra are the japanese supercars.) Supra are just the better of the bunch...:bthumbup: |
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| crazyrx7 |
quote:
Originally posted by newred
I'm not saying a prelude or a civic is a Super Car. Shit no, but a nine sec Supra is. Sure it's fast in a quarter mile, but it still is a street car & it can do corners. It isn't like the old Muscle car that can't turn. Those supra a stock suspension or some thing likes tein suspension.
But u is right when you say that (cars like the fd, 300zxtt, nsx, skyline and supra are the japanese supercars.) Supra are just the better of the bunch...:bthumbup:
Thats just your opinion.;)
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