| turbomike |
WHAT ARE THE LAWS TOWARD WATCHING A STREET RACE???
The reason i ask this is because, in july last summer I had a member of the EPA pull out his firearm and point it at my head..... because i was at a street race.
I asked him what the hell he was doing pointing a gun at an unarmed man and he told me my car is a wepon??? only thing was the motor was off...
As far as RCMP in the strathcona county....
officer Badger is one cool guy and he gave all the street racers fair notice... |
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| v8slayer |
Your going to have to face the facts that the RC members and Edmonton police Service staff are two totally seperate animals.
I can still remember when the RC's found a bunch of corruption in the police force where I use to live. I would never trust a city cop with anything or any responsibilty as they don't seem to live by standards or morals the rest of us do.
I don't know if its in the hiring or training but MOST city forces don't have the quality of staff compared to the members.
Ex:I can still remember my Dad putting down a City cop after he grabbed me so hard he cut my neck with his nails. I was 9 years old and riding my dirt bike on a gravel road 100 kids a day used to get to the MX bike park. He stopped me and ask me to take my helmet off , I was very nervous and couldn't pull the strap through quick enough so he grabbed my neck and pulled the helmet of with force and cut my neck.
By the time I got home my neck was blue , green and bleeding and my mom asked if I wiped my bike out and the cop said no but I was having trouble getting my helmet of so he helped.
My dad was just getting home from work and looked shocked so he asked the cop why he did it and the cop raised his voice to my dad and stepped towards him. My dad being 6'4" and 250 lb's grabbed him and pushed his face into the ground and put a knee on the cops neck while twisting his arms up behind his back. Mom called the RCMP in the next district who came over from another members house and took interviews and charged the city cop with assault and unlawful confinement of a minor(something like that).
It never went to court but lets just say that cop retired early.
So when you say EPS staff held a gun to your head I can completey beleave you.
Your lucky your alive still as those semi's have a light trigger and if the cop was so scared as to need a gun to control a situation when he didn't need to he was probably not pay ing attension with his finger pressure.
I doubt he remembered to point the finger with the gun to prevent a ax fire.
Rule number one never turn your back on a city cop if you want to live.
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| 1mns13 |
Rule number two: Don't trust people with guns when you don't have one. Or people who don't support your right to protect yourself.
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by 1mns13@Jan 14 2003, 10:31 PM
Rule number two: Don't trust people with guns when you don't have one. Or people who don't support your right to protect yourself.
Jared
*knocks on wood*, maybe it's just dumb luck but I have never had a bad run-in with the EPS. |
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| turbomike |
Oh ya then there's that big old bastard who drives the unmarked old beeter on white ave... 2 years ago i blew a light at 4 am on my mountain bike...
he gave me 3 tickets for a total of 150 bucks and 4 demerit points
lets recap... i WAS ON A PEDAL BIKE...what a tool :thefinger: |
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| 1mns13 |
I feel luck never being caught on my mountain bike now. I've always been a little color blind when I ride my bike. How can he give you demerit points your licence when you weren't driving a motor vehicle?
Jared :wtf: |
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| dogstar |
a bike is a vehicle, sucks to be you i guess :P
you know the one thing i hate.... cyclists (not saying you folks) who dont look or pay any attention to cars.
i always yell at them something about "never seen a car in hospital a$$hole..." :)
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| Ok since we're talking about scary run-ins it was like 3 a.m and this guy had been while... seemed like he had been following me when I was in my Jaguar, so I was kinda paranoid as I always am so I turn off my lights, do some zips and zags and w/e and just go home.. I pull into my crescent.. then into a keyhole to turn around and I move slowly cause a e.p.s wagon is just sittin there off with no lights or interior lights on. So I swing around and then park in front of my house.. and I live in well around wolf willow so a fairly affluent old-money neighborhood so it's not like a mint pimped out jag is creepin around the ghetto hehe so ya I stop and am just about to turn the car off and the guy comes whippin outta the keyhole lights on and stops inches from my bumper lights flashing and tells me to shut off the car from a distance.. so I do and i'm reaching to un-do my seat belt and step out cause well it's a thing I do... the cops higher then you he's in a position of power.. like birds... never ruffle a cop's feathers either especially when he's beaking at you hehe. So he pulls his gun and points it right at me and like not to my head and says hands on the steering wheel asshole.. let's see your wallet.. fumbles through it and looks at my driver's.... and I ask "is there a problem officer" and he said ya a kid like you at 3 a.m creeping around in a neighborhood like this with that car... how'd you get that car anyways... I said umm it's called money.. you know you work for it and it's used to trade for goods and services. He told me to get outta the car so I did and he asked where i kept my registration and pink card.. I said in the glovebox but I didn't have it and he was like well I'm gonna have to write you a ticket for it.. Ummm officer... it's too bad I'm in front of my house.. want me to go get it? I'll be back in 5 min and I'll bring my dad too.. he's like no that's not necessary.. next time have your lights on and let me go :wtf: |
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| bomberman |
Hey Slowazz, thats really crazy. I live in Wolf Willow too and i have only ever seen 2 police cars in my area. Ever... How long did he follow you for? If I see police cars in the west end tho, they are only bothering people my age.
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| well the van just whipped outta the keyhole and right behind my car with lights flashing.. so I was well kinda stopped so he didn't really follow me but jese I mean we're in the west end with money.. it's not like we're in umm the east side stadium area cruisin with no lights on in pimped up rides.. no offence to the east side ;) I'm in the gariepy/lessard area and I don't think that's ghetto.. ask rezarex if he thinks it's ghetto :P |
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| RezaREX |
| Haha. Yeah man straight up ghetto in this hood hehe. This one time this guy jaywalked near my house, it was crazy. Thats about the worst thing that happens around here. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
| Geez, that sound bad, did you get the badge number of that jerk?. |
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| Nightstalker |
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Originally posted by turbomike@Jan 15 2003, 06:34 AM
Oh ya then there's that big old bastard who drives the unmarked old beeter on white ave... 2 years ago i blew a light at 4 am on my mountain bike...
he gave me 3 tickets for a total of 150 bucks and 4 demerit points
lets recap... i WAS ON A PEDAL BIKE...what a tool :thefinger:
I got a speeding ticket on my mountain bike once... most of the time you can actually outrun a cop if you are on a bike.. just hit a bike trail and beat it into the woods =).. I use to run from the rangers (bike cops) in the river valley all the time.. But that was back when I was really hard core into mountain biking and they had no chance of catching me =). |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| haha mike, now what do you do? carry around your airsoft gun with you when you ride in the rivervalley so instead of running away you shoot them? :bigthumbup: hehe..... I remember the days of running away from cops on dirt bikes.... cops are so dumb!! :gay: |
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| turbomike |
well i woild of ran and i have many other times but i was just so stuned...
the ave was like a gost town...
and i had a squishe in one hand...
never give out your drivers lic if your on a bike...
they can't charge you with anything... that has demerits |
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| dogstar |
ah, problem with that suggestion, they can demand identification.
i was reading some of those links jimbo posted, and i recall it was a fairly big fine for not producing a license if an officer requests it.
not trying to be a smart ass, just wouldnt want you to get some large fine for something simple. |
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| Loose |
I'm suprised you guys have such bad luck with cops. I find that if you give them some respect (ya I know it sucks), they treat you better.
That being said, I've met some F*ucking moron cops with mega chips on their shoulders, on the stereotypical power trip.
I find the EPS way better than the RC's. To me, the RC's are nothing but a bunch of bottom feeder law enforcement officers. Some of those guys are just so dumb!
One time we got busted for speeding near the street racers. The RC was so mad he got out of his car without putting it in park, or taking his seatbelt off. He almost got dragged under the car. Hard to believe, but it's true. |
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| PraxRX7 |
I had an RCMP officer lose his temper on me when I was 12......not going there...
But I know lots of good Sherwood Park RCMP (Plus I have never been pulled over by either SP police or by Edmonton police...never been pulled over period...must be my good driving =)
Officer Hill in Sherwood Park was a cool guy though, might be retired by now though. |
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| midnite |
one thing i hate about sherwood park is the overabundance of police. and they are usually bored.
a few years ago in the spring i wiped my car out on a corner, hit the curb and blew the tire.
nobody was hurt and there were no other cars near by. just an accident between my car and a curb.
we got out to change the tire and a bystander called the police to report the accident. within minutes there were SIX police cars at the scene and even more officers. they were questioning us, surveying what happened, and blocking the road. most of the officers were just chatting with each other like there was nothing else to do. |
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| specv |
| The only real problem I've had with Cops was a Sherwood Park RC. They were dicks it was 2am we drove to Macs to get smokes and Kraft mac&cheese but they had to search the car and have us put our hands on the car while searching us. They let the passengers go and detained the driver and told us to walk home. I live in MILLHOOD so thats quite the walk. The driver was finally released and picked us up half way home. He lived in a nice area in Sherwood Park too. |
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| HKSpowers |
Strangley if we all had video cameras on our dashes shit like this would never happen. I think if it's ok for "po po" to have them I think i'm gonna put on in my car and one that records sound.
On a personal note any time a cop or anybody points a gun at you thats serious and I think it needs to be addressed with the proper authorites, cause going to a cop station dosent get you very far other than an appology from the cop maybe if your luckey. |
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| 180sx |
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Originally posted by HKSpowers@Mar 17 2003, 12:09 PM
Strangley if we all had video cameras on our dashes shit like this would never happen. I think if it's ok for "po po" to have them I think i'm gonna put on in my car and one that records sound.
Me too! |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
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Originally posted by dogstar@Jan 22 2003, 12:34 AM
ah, problem with that suggestion, they can demand identification.
i was reading some of those links jimbo posted, and i recall it was a fairly big fine for not producing a license if an officer requests it.
not trying to be a smart ass, just wouldnt want you to get some large fine for something simple.
you have 24 hrs. to produce a driver's license if it's requested of you |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by v8slayer@Jan 14 2003, 10:10 PM
So when you say EPS staff held a gun to your head I can completey beleave you.
Your lucky your alive still as those semi's have a light trigger and if the cop was so scared as to need a gun to control a situation when he didn't need to he was probably not pay ing attension with his finger pressure.
I doubt he remembered to point the finger with the gun to prevent a ax fire.
Rule number one never turn your back on a city cop if you want to live.
:o
HOLY SHIT you uneducated ignorant moron......I dont know what side of the country you came from but really how stupid can you be.
first- yes there are good, bad and GREAT cops......and yes the bad ones do give a bad rep to all the other cops.
second- the EPS uses the Glock 22 in .40 S&W....it is a semi-auto yes but it DOES NOT have a light trigger....police issue firearms are actually made so they have a heavier trigger pull 8.0lbs vs 5.5lbs, than their civilian counter parts. The EPS are also trained to never have their finger on the trigger unless they are prepared to use it.
third- there are many many situations that a police officer may pull his firearm.....and just because you are unarmed doesn't mean that the cop cant draw his gun....
I really get pissed off with suck uneducated people like this.....you have NO idea of what it takes to be a police officer and the kind of shit that they go through....if you are going to make statements like this make sure that they are correct and you have something to back them up!!!!
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never turn your back on a city cop if you want to live......ya great....your a real smrt one.....just because you have had bad experiences in the past does not mean that all the cops are like that....if you want to make statements like that edjemacate yourself first so people like me dont have to.
it someone is going to make statements like that I have no problem making them back
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| MightyMidget |
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 17 2003, 10:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dogstar@Jan 22 2003, 12:34 AM
ah, problem with that suggestion, they can demand identification.
i was reading some of those links jimbo posted, and i recall it was a fairly big fine for not producing a license if an officer requests it.
not trying to be a smart ass, just wouldnt want you to get some large fine for something simple.
you have 24 hrs. to produce a driver's license if it's requested of you
and NOPE....you have right now to produce yor DL when requested to do so by a peace officer.....that 24hrs thing is a myth
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| SRBURG13 |
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Originally posted by schlong69@Mar 19 2003, 01:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by v8slayer@Jan 14 2003, 10:10 PM
So when you say EPS staff held a gun to your head I can completey beleave you.
Your lucky your alive still as those semi's have a light trigger and if the cop was so scared as to need a gun to control a situation when he didn't need to he was probably not pay ing attension with his finger pressure.
I doubt he remembered to point the finger with the gun to prevent a ax fire.
Rule number one never turn your back on a city cop if you want to live.
:o
HOLY SHIT you uneducated ignorant moron......I dont know what side of the country you came from but really how stupid can you be.
first- yes there are good, bad and GREAT cops......and yes the bad ones do give a bad rep to all the other cops.
second- the EPS uses the Glock 22 in .40 S&W....it is a semi-auto yes but it DOES NOT have a light trigger....police issue firearms are actually made so they have a heavier trigger pull 8.0lbs vs 5.5lbs, than their civilian counter parts. The EPS are also trained to never have their finger on the trigger unless they are prepared to use it.
third- there are many many situations that a police officer may pull his firearm.....and just because you are unarmed doesn't mean that the cop cant draw his gun....
I really get pissed off with suck uneducated people like this.....you have NO idea of what it takes to be a police officer and the kind of shit that they go through....if you are going to make statements like this make sure that they are correct and you have something to back them up!!!!
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never turn your back on a city cop if you want to live......ya great....your a real smrt one.....just because you have had bad experiences in the past does not mean that all the cops are like that....if you want to make statements like that edjemacate yourself first so people like me dont have to.
it someone is going to make statements like that I have no problem making them back
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The trigger weight and the finger on the trigger have nothing to do with the situation. The point is, what the hell is a PO pullin out his gun for, in that situation? Street racers? He actually thought that pullin out a gun would contain the situation? His life was threatened? Thats BS.
Since we dont' know the EXACT situation of that evening, from what I hear, the kid was just sittin there watchin a race, or was gonna get back into his car when he heard cops were there. But in NO way did a PO need to pull out his firearm and point it at his head. That is just plain pathetic. Obviously he felt he had no control. Maybe he shouldn't be a cop. I too have had nothing but bad experiences with PO's. And the majority of them had nothing to do with cars. Just standing there, and they say something stupid to us, like "why are you dressed like a fag?" What kind of professionalism is that? I'm sure there are some great, and good cops out there. But its seems as though the bad ones are dominating.
Since we are all postin mean posts, I might as well too. :D
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| BlueTurboEGG |
1- I would never trust a cop or ANYONE with his/her gun out in ANY circumstance unless I knew him, that's just me though.
2- I've studied reports of cops shooting themselves in the leg trying to draw from a holster under stress.
3-I remember reading a case where a cop shot his own hand off while opening a door with the left hand, gun in the right under stress.
4- When I used to train at the firing ranges, I was informed by the range master that certain EPS would leave bullets in all the wrong places... (walls, ceilings, floors)
5-Doesn't matter who trains you, if you don't keep up with the training, it leaves you NOONE trancends training no matter what people tell you or regardless of what they believe.
6- It takes an ungodly amount of ammo and hours spent training each year to to maintain a certain level of skill, when I was competing in IPSC Stock Class, I used roughly 48,000 rounds each year. Thats 500 rnds Sat. 500rnds Sun. the weekdays I would spend training by "presentation from concealment" (drawing gun from holster underneath a coat) 2 hours each day and dry firing the pistol. Most police officers have not the time to commit to this type of training.
Again, I state, I would not trust ANYONE with a gun under ANY circumstance unless I knew them, whether it be a training partner or a police officer.
With that said, I would like to add that No, I would not trust anyone on the police force if they pulled their gun out and pointed it at me or anyone I knew for any reason, not because I am ignorant, but because I'm educated.
The Gun is a serious tool and is horribly unforgiving of poor mishandling. If an member of the police force feels he/she has the need to present his/her weapon because they percieve a threat, then you'd better do what he/she says because you do NOT know the mental state of person in question.
Again, that is just me.
Well trained or not, on the streets it's a matter of my not knowing who is on the other end of the gun.
That is why I truly applaud the actions of someone like Jim, he truly believes through education and getting to know one another, we can dispell myths and all work together for one reason: to make this life (ours) alittle better to live.
I beleive in him too.
For the record, I think that was BS pulling out a gun on a spectator like that and calling his car a "weapon" when it wasn't even running. |
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| HKSpowers |
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Mar 18 2003, 08:26 PM
The Gun is a serious tool and is horribly unforgiving of poor mishandling. If an member of the police force feels he/she has the need to present his/her weapon because they percieve a threat, then you'd better do what he/she says because you do NOT know the mental state of person in question.
Again, that is just me.
Well trained or not, on the streets it's a matter of my not knowing who is on the other end of the gun.
That is why I truly applaud the actions of someone like Jim, he truly believes through education and getting to know one another, we can dispell myths and all work together for one reason: to make this life (ours) alittle better to live.
I beleive in him too.
For the record, I think that was BS pulling out a gun on a spectator like that and calling his car a "weapon" when it wasn't even running.
You said it, I would have to totaly agree with you there! |
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| inglewood |
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Originally posted by schlong69@Mar 18 2003, 07:30 PM
it someone is going to make statements like that I have no problem making them back
true dat...you make strong statements, you get strong statements back...*cough redbaron cough*
every action has an equal and opposite reaction!
however, i must say, well said andy! incredibly articulate and well written post. are you an english professor? j/k.'
guns are bad...very bad. |
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| redbaron303 |
Hey Osama... FUCK YOU!
Okay back to topic: Anyone points a gun at me, if they're civilian I"m going to the cops... if they're cops and I'm unarmed and am not doing anything illegal (includes things like being pulled over for speeding/stunting/racing) I'll figure out who I can go to (if they don't shoot me first) and report their asses and try to make sure they're fired or at least not allowed to opperate a gun!!!! The ignorance of some police members really pisses me off, to abuse power like that... now if I held a gun to his head I'd be put in jail and probably in the deepest darked hole around! Sometimes they just think they're above the law because they "are" the law... IMO some ppl are just plain nuts, police or not, civilian or not! |
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| inglewood |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 18 2003, 11:24 PM
Hey Osama... FUCK YOU!
Okay back to topic: Anyone points a gun at me, if they're civilian I"m going to the cops... if they're cops and I'm unarmed and am not doing anything illegal (includes things like being pulled over for speeding/stunting/racing) I'll figure out who I can go to (if they don't shoot me first) and report their asses and try to make sure they're fired or at least not allowed to opperate a gun!!!! The ignorance of some police members really pisses me off, to abuse power like that... now if I held a gun to his head I'd be put in jail and probably in the deepest darked hole around! Sometimes they just think they're above the law because they "are" the law... IMO some ppl are just plain nuts, police or not, civilian or not!
wow, chris, such harsh language. i didn't know fags were so mouthy. :gay: j/k. anyways, there are proper procedures in place for filing complaints against any law enforcement member. you have many options, from complaining to the detachment commander, or you can go to the solicitor general if you want. the exact outlines are on the government of alberta webpage. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by SRBURG13@Mar 18 2003, 09:05 PM
The trigger weight and the finger on the trigger have nothing to do with the situation. The point is, what the hell is a PO pullin out his gun for, in that situation? Street racers? He actually thought that pullin out a gun would contain the situation? His life was threatened? Thats BS.
Since we dont' know the EXACT situation of that evening, from what I hear, the kid was just sittin there watchin a race, or was gonna get back into his car when he heard cops were there. But in NO way did a PO need to pull out his firearm and point it at his head. That is just plain pathetic. Obviously he felt he had no control. Maybe he shouldn't be a cop. I too have had nothing but bad experiences with PO's. And the majority of them had nothing to do with cars. Just standing there, and they say something stupid to us, like "why are you dressed like a fag?" What kind of professionalism is that? I'm sure there are some great, and good cops out there. But its seems as though the bad ones are dominating.
Since we are all postin mean posts, I might as well too. :D
PEACE
how do you know that the police officer didnt have a reason to pull his firearm??? vehicle stops are probably one of the most risky things s cop can to because they are UNKNOWN risk!!!! Like I have posted before...I was there and believe me it is not an eas job.....Me and my partner almost shot a suicidal lady once....ya it was very stressful......and i cant even count teh number of time that I had pulled or at least checked my firearm while doing veh stops or high risk take downs.....
oh and trigger weight and finger on teh trigger have all to do with it.....like whats his name said ....about cop guns with light triggers...also the Glock WILL NOT fire unless the trigger is pulled....it is not possible......
just respect police and remember what they go through everyday...they are protecting us but when they do something you dont like you make a fuss about it......and about the training...EPS has probably the hardest training in North America.....it is very very tough and if you even saw a small piece of it you would be amazed and maybe respect the police a bit more....
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Well, that is true, we don't kow the situation. and all we are going by is the one side of the story.
But lets all take a deep beath here.
It's because people who drive "fancy" cars we are constantly subject to the typical stereotypes of the "Fast and the Furious" or "Gangsta' Drivers" and I mean CONSTANTLY.
Sometimes we forget that not all EPS are bad, but EPS don't realize either, is that all us drivers of "fancy" cars are not bad people either.
I'm not condoning stereotypical behaviour, but most of us are frustrated with Police officers because we are constantly being given a hard time for doing nothing.
I can't begin to tell you the number of times I've been pulled over for no apparent reason and let go, or issued a ticket that hasn't been entered into the system, about the only time I've been issued a ticket that was entered, was my improperly aimed foglights. Which is fine, I re-aimed them.
It's just mostly frustrating. As owners of "fancy" cars, we attract attention, whether we like it or not, I don't necessarily believe that we should be given a hard time for it.
And for the drivers, just do what I do when you're pulled over: remain calm, turn on you interior light and place both hands on the steering wheel.
I would also like to point out that I've never given a police officer a hard time, remember, it's 10x more stressful on them than it is one you. |
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| SRBURG13 |
| I beleive that the job and training for a PO is difficult, I never said otherwise. And the trigger weight has nothing to do with the fact that he pulled his gun. That is a totally different story. From hearing one side of the story, there was no reason to pull a gun. When he pulled a gun, he obviously had the intention to use it, why else would he need to pull it, unless they train them to intimidate people with a firearm. Like I said before, I wasn't there, so I don't know the situation. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
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Originally posted by inglewood@Mar 18 2003, 10:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by schlong69@Mar 18 2003, 07:30 PM
it someone is going to make statements like that I have no problem making them back
true dat...you make strong statements, you get strong statements back...*cough redbaron cough*
every action has an equal and opposite reaction!
however, i must say, well said andy! incredibly articulate and well written post. are you an english professor? j/k.'
guns are bad...very bad.
No, I am by no means a proffessor of ANYTHING, least of all, English, it was my worst subject :)
I studied many cases and was always facinated by case files and how they turn out in court and the sort. Massad Ayoob is my favorite writer. (Mas-saad Eye-yoob)
He has a long established record as a police officer and defense expert and founder of the Leathal Force Institute www.ayoob.com.
If anything, I gained my knowledge and wisdom from reading his many books ans studying his court cases as he was called upon many times as a firearms expert in court.
Chuck Taylor, known as the 4 weapon combat master and is also a favorite of mentor of mine. His website is located at http://www.firearmsacademy.com/taylor.htm |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
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Originally posted by schlong69@Mar 19 2003, 06:15 AM
just respect police and remember what they go through everyday...they are protecting us but when they do something you dont like you make a fuss about it......and about the training...EPS has probably the hardest training in North America.....it is very very tough and if you even saw a small piece of it you would be amazed and maybe respect the police a bit more....
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Guess what Chris, you got your wish, listen up everyone.
Tomorrow on Global News at 6pm local time, there will be a special report on the training that goes into being a member of EPS.
I suggest you watch it.
It may help shed some light into the violent world they live in, perhaps change your mind on how you percive then next time if you ever cross paths with a member of EPS again.
At least make an effort to watch :) |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Mar 26 2003, 10:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by schlong69@Mar 19 2003, 06:15 AM
just respect police and remember what they go through everyday...they are protecting us but when they do something you dont like you make a fuss about it......and about the training...EPS has probably the hardest training in North America.....it is very very tough and if you even saw a small piece of it you would be amazed and maybe respect the police a bit more....
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Guess what Chris, you got your wish, listen up everyone.
Tomorrow on Global News at 6pm local time, there will be a special report on the training that goes into being a member of EPS.
I suggest you watch it.
It may help shed some light into the violent world they live in, perhaps change your mind on how you percive then next time if you ever cross paths with a member of EPS again.
At least make an effort to watch :)
for the last time i am not chris......I am steve......
schlong8 = chris
schlong69= steve
and if we ever do meet I have some videos if you guys want to see them......IT WILL shed some light on the subject
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| RezaREX |
So Chris, I'd like to see those vids sometime just out of curiosity.
P.S. While I was being serious about the vids this post was just an excuse to call you Chris. |
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| MightyMidget |
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Originally posted by RezaREX@Mar 26 2003, 11:02 PM
So Chris, I'd like to see those vids sometime just out of curiosity.
P.S. While I was being serious about the vids this post was just an excuse to call you Chris.
sure no problem "i get stuck in a snow drift boy".....aka christian..... :P
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Woops, sorry :)
Can someone fix their aliases?! :blink: :D
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Mar 27 2003, 08:33 AM
Woops, sorry :)
Can someone fix their aliases?! :blink: :D
Now the special is on tonight, just a reminder.
no problem......maybe i will start ending my posts with ... S instead of 69...
69 i mean
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