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8-23-5
Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.
So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...
At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.
The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.
No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..
* One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.
* The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.
* The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."
Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.
Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!
Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.
This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?
This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!
The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.
I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.
Evil or Very Mad
p.s. - there are more stories of police brutality that i'll post up later. gotta hit the airport soon. can't wait to get the fuck out of this shit hole state. |
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| superpirate25 |
| Although this is usually the type of thing I'm wildly opposed to, I think those worthless degenerates got what they deserved. If there's one culture that I would like to see wiped off the face of the planet it's the rave culture. And sorry if I don't take one of the "performers" word as gospel, but I'm sure this is a somewhat biased view on what happened. No mention of the numerous arrests for illegal substances, weapons etc. Not to say the police handled this the right way, since they never do. |
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| 3gec |
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Originally posted by superpirate25
Although this is usually the type of thing I'm wildly opposed to, I think those worthless degenerates got what they deserved. If there's one culture that I would like to see wiped off the face of the planet it's the rave culture. And sorry if I don't take one of the "performers" word as gospel, but I'm sure this is a somewhat biased view on what happened. No mention of the numerous arrests for illegal substances, weapons etc. Not to say the police handled this the right way, since they never do.
fuck you saying? Are you against whatever you would call the gangsta culture that listen to rap music and shit or goth's or whatever other one there are as well or just the rave culture? Cause I am sure there is a lot less stabbings and other shit at raves than there is at a bars or other places where the gggg units like to hang out. For some reason it seems to me you can hardly pick out a raver from any other person walking down the streets so why are you so against the rave culture? And why you call them worthless degenerates? |
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| Helios |
wow. :eek:
its a good thing that our Police force isnt that brutal on the rave scene. Wonder how this female is doing.. |
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| sparkycivic |
| reason # 689'231'395 that I am glad I live here, and not south of the 49th: big brother can fuck right off. |
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| colossus |
| and please tell us again-Why should we care? ... |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by superpirate25
No mention of the numerous arrests for illegal substances, weapons etc. Not to say the police handled this the right way, since they never do.
I was reading some of that ginormous thread on 404audio and they're talking about that on there.... the rest is just initial press stuff. :dunno: |
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| superpirate25 |
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Originally posted by 3gec
fuck you saying? Are you against whatever you would call the gangsta culture that listen to rap music and shit or goth's or whatever other one there are as well or just the rave culture? Cause I am sure there is a lot less stabbings and other shit at raves than there is at a bars or other places where the gggg units like to hang out. For some reason it seems to me you can hardly pick out a raver from any other person walking down the streets so why are you so against the rave culture? And why you call them worthless degenerates?
I don't seem to recall where I said I didn't like ravers because they stabbed people?? Although, since I am opposed to violence, you could say I share an equal distaste for the gunit wannabes.
You appear to believe that I have no exposure to the rave culture and that I'm simply bashing it for the sake of bashing it, rather than seeing it's effects and evolution over the last 7-8 years. I've watched it destroy close friends and others around them with the associated drugs and lifestyle. I cannot count how many young girls I have seen turn into meth-heads because they wanted to fit in with people at raves. Now you can argue that these personalities are the type that would have gotten involved with drugs or other equally destuctive habits regardless, but raving is the hook that caught them.
I also realize that I'm painting everybody with the same brush, so I'm sorry to the few good apples that for whatever absurd reason actually enjoy the music and dancing, and attend raves for only that reason. Even though I had a friend tell me that exact thing over the weekend, only to end up doing coke and k in the bathroom with somebody.
On the whole I'm a very tolerant and accepting person, but the tolerance stops when it hurts myself or anybody close to me. I will not tolerate degenerative culures, whether it's the drug infused rave culture or the wannabe gangster culture which bred the scum who decided to stab a friend of mine at "bar wild" because he was too much of a pussy to fight like a man. |
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| 3gec |
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Originally posted by superpirate25
I don't seem to recall where I said I didn't like ravers because they stabbed people?? Although, since I am opposed to violence, you could say I share an equal distaste for the gunit wannabes.
You appear to believe that I have no exposure to the rave culture and that I'm simply bashing it for the sake of bashing it, rather than seeing it's effects and evolution over the last 7-8 years. I've watched it destroy close friends and others around them with the associated drugs and lifestyle. I cannot count how many young girls I have seen turn into meth-heads because they wanted to fit in with people at raves. Now you can argue that these personalities are the type that would have gotten involved with drugs or other equally destuctive habits regardless, but raving is the hook that caught them.
I also realize that I'm painting everybody with the same brush, so I'm sorry to the few good apples that for whatever absurd reason actually enjoy the music and dancing, and attend raves for only that reason. Even though I had a friend tell me that exact thing over the weekend, only to end up doing coke and k in the bathroom with somebody.
On the whole I'm a very tolerant and accepting person, but the tolerance stops when it hurts myself or anybody close to me. I will not tolerate degenerative culures, whether it's the drug infused rave culture or the wannabe gangster culture which bred the scum who decided to stab a friend of mine at "bar wild" because he was too much of a pussy to fight like a man.
Alright that is a little more fair when you put it that way. I took it as you being like screw all these types of people because I heard this and that on the news. It was pretty ignorant. Oh and for the record I am no hardcore raver or anything. I just like the scene I don't do any of the drugs or anything but I just love the music, lighting, Djing huge party part of it.
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| 95EagleAWD |
Cops don't need a warrant to enter any property if they think people are in danger.
They had every right to do what they did. And from what I've read about this "party", they sure as hell didn't have the permits to have over 250 people in their building. Undercover police officers in the building and off-duty EMS officers (under contract for safety) were offered drugs. That's reason right there to break it up.
I've said it before, but not here. If you hate the police, it's because of one of two things.
1. You've been arrested, or have had problems with them. Way to go...
2. You're a fucking idiot.
Now, I realize this isn't going to make me many friends around here, but you have to give these guys their due. They ARE just doing their job, which is complicat.ed, but boils down to the good ol' cliched "Serve and Protect". They have a job to do and people shouldn't go all anal-retensive when they do it.
All cops are pigs until you pick up the phone and dial 911, right? |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
They had every right to do what they did. And from what I've read about this "party", they sure as hell didn't have the permits to have over 250 people in their building. Undercover police officers in the building and off-duty EMS officers (under contract for safety) were offered drugs. That's reason right there to break it up.
I've said it before, but not here. If you hate the police, it's because of one of two things.
1. You've been arrested, or have had problems with them. Way to go...
2. You're a fucking idiot.
....ummmmm....it was outside in a field. (First line, second paragraph of the story above.)
lol, I've said it before, but not here. If you can't be bothered to get the facts straight when they are posted right in front of you in black and white, it's because of one of two things:
1. You've been beaten with books, or have had problems with letters because they are scary. Way to go...
2. You're an illiterate f***ing idiot.
lol, j/k.... but you get the point right? :) |
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| sparkycivic |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
2. You're a fucking idiot.
NO HIGH SCHOOL FOR YOU! |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by sparkycivic
NO HIGH SCHOOL FOR YOU!
How so? Grammar and spelling, although vulgar, is correct. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by snugs
....ummmmm....it was outside in a field. (First line, second paragraph of the story above.)
lol, I've said it before, but not here. If you can't be bothered to get the facts straight when they are posted right in front of you in black and white, it's because of one of two things:
1. You've been beaten with books, or have had problems with letters because they are scary. Way to go...
2. You're an illiterate f***ing idiot.
lol, j/k.... but you get the point right? :)
Ahahaha.... I'm totally thinking of another place!!
I am an illeterate idiot... my apologies...:blink:
Time for a beer.:beer: |
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| sparkycivic |
| i was bugging him because he didn't read the entire first post, or failed to recall it when he wrote his reply. bandwagons are fun! |
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| superpirate25 |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I've said it before, but not here. If you hate the police, it's because of one of two things.
1. You've been arrested, or have had problems with them. Way to go...
2. You're a fucking idiot.
Either that, or you've broken from the mold of believing that all authority figures are actually doing what is best for YOU. To serve and protect..........................who? There are officers who do a great job, but I won't respect somebody just because they wear a badge. I will show them the same respect they show me, and on an unfortunately large basis I see no reason to respect the government handed, corrupted authority they are given.
On a related note, regarding the violence on Whyte Wednesday night. The police presence there was huge due to the fringe, but I couldn't belive the number of police officers chatting with friends and joking around. Perhaps if they were doing some, oh I don't know....policing?? then they may have noticed some of these situations before they got out of hand. |
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