| Cobra_R |
How bad are our roads in edmonton compared to other canadian citys?
the only other roads i have seen are BC. and Saskatchewan
B.c. is not to bad
Saskatchewan is um..... horrid there best highway is like our worst secondary.
and should the city of edmonton do more to improve the quality of roads in this city moreso then side projects like um church hill square and other stupid bullshit? |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by Cobra_R
How bad are our roads in edmonton compared to other canadian citys?
the only other roads i have seen are BC. and Saskatchewan
B.c. is not to bad
Saskatchewan is um..... horrid there best highway is like our worst secondary.
and should the city of edmonton do more to improve the quality of roads in this city moreso then side projects like um church hill square and other stupid bullshit?
edmonton will never have decent roads b/c of semi's, weather and shitty patch jobs/paving crews, and the only roads i've been on in sask and b/c were gravel so i wou7ldn't know. |
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| SaabKraft |
i've been on some nice roads in southern ontario, but they were concrete :D
edmonton roads will rarely get better than they are now. |
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| Adam |
| these roads are awesome...you guys havent been to Nova Scotia have you!:p Roads there suck ass |
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| SketchifisT |
BC roads suck downtown. In the outskirts of BC and certain parts we got stellar roads. But downtown vancouver makes most people cry. If you have coil overs you will legit break your back.
However on average edmonton has worse roads then BC and for sask , who cares. Either way i think Victoria island highway is the best road ive driven on, and i think there will be a race along that highway sooner rather then later |
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| Turb0.ed.v6 |
now if you compare the roads here .. and the ones in las angelos (however you spell it) or las vegas!
the main reason the roads here suck is because of winter isnt it? winter.. frost... cold.... =potholes... salt.... cracks... e.t.c |
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| BananaBoy |
Considering I hit a pot hole to that was so bad it put a 1 inch cut in my front passenger side tire side wall, I'd say the roads suck ass. I was going 50km and I have 17" rims, not 20" rims.
Report a Pothole |
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| red88.n/a.rx |
| :) They just repaved the roads right in front of my house, too bad I dont have a car to drive on it with. |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by Turb0.ed.v6
the main reason the roads here suck is because of winter isnt it? winter.. frost... cold.... =potholes... salt.... cracks... e.t.c
thats what i said didn't I?....plus we have too many heavy trucks driving thru our city. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Edmonton road aren't bad but their getting worse. They just spent how long and how much doing the Capilano bridge and already it's shit.. mind you it was shit when took down the baracades.
Quite often I see roads that have just been paved inthe last year or so and their crap. go to an old neighbour hood, like my Grandmothers about 73rd st and 104ave(there abouts... this roads are actually in quite good shape and they haven't been touched in shoot 30yrs or so.
They just paved highway 2 from Rochester to Perryvale.. was real nice to drive on... for a year then it was in the same shape it was when they re-paved it.
The prob is they skim and inch or two off the top and resurface, they don't actually get it down to the base and re-pave. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by dc2696
thats what i said didn't I?....plus we have too many heavy trucks driving thru our city.
Heh try living in a small town where the main road is right next to a river(well most of town is) when it's -40 in Edmonton it's -50 -60 here, and we have super B logging trucks, and oil rig trucks driving through everyday darn near. |
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| PraxGTI |
Edmonton is screwed for roads. They will always be paying money into fixing them, and the more edmonton expands the more expensive its going to get.
The problem with edmonton is simple. Bad City Planning. The road system and the materials it is composed of were not thought of properly before the city was constructed.
And unlike a good game of SimCity, you can't make a couple million, bulldoze the city, and start over with what you have learned. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
I disagree the prob is they stopped doing it right.
Back when they used to put concrete bases down. and they pave on top of the concrete, now they barely do it on major roads.
If htey would repair them properly or rather re-do them properly, instead of "Gee the road is all cracked to shit, the cracks go down 4 or more inches... here we'll scrape off 2" and just cover up the problem, to show the tax payers we're doing something then do it again in 5yrs. |
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| sparkycivic |
| these are a hell of a lot better than the roads in Winnipeg!!! too many of the roads in that city are concrete slabs that seem bent on causing kidney dammage to anyone that has a lowered car! good luck getting any cornering traction on that shit too, the gaps between the slabs(Bishop Grandin Bvd) just upset the car. im sure that they can thank winnipeg winters for that. |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
Wow...you guys don't know $h!t when it comes to road design and construction.
The predominent reason Edmonton's roads are bad is that:
A) we were glaciated, and any disturbance to the native soil cannot be compacted back as densly, and
B) we are basically in Glacial Lake Edmonton, with all the negative connotations associated with building at the bottom of what once was a lake.
This is why, for the most part, concrete roads and concrete bases don't work in Edmonton (they work wonderfully in Calgary, where the ground is basically gravel as opposed to Edmonton's silty clay).
Furthermore, given our winters, all asphalts must be made with an enormous plasticity index, being both pliable in cold conditions and trying to stay homogenous in hot conditions. This is why you see wheel ruts caused by trucks in summer. It's also the reason that crack filling usually gets ripped out in winter / spring. This is further compounded by out weird springs as of late, with upwards to 20 freeze/thaw cycles in a single day. That's tough on anything, let alone a roadway's surface.
So, no, there's not much that can be done, other than hoping that any reconstruction isn't marred by rain during summer and that winters are kind. |
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| Turb0.ed.v6 |
sorry dc2696, thats what ya get from not reading your post fully.
and uhh MX5 Miata Guy, thanks for the whole techincal lowdown ... I think the main msg you're trying to get through is "edmonton roads suck" |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by MX5 Miata Guy
Wow...you guys don't know $h!t when it comes to road design and construction.
The predominent reason Edmonton's roads are bad is that:
A) we were glaciated, and any disturbance to the native soil cannot be compacted back as densly, and
B) we are basically in Glacial Lake Edmonton, with all the negative connotations associated with building at the bottom of what once was a lake.
This is why, for the most part, concrete roads and concrete bases don't work in Edmonton (they work wonderfully in Calgary, where the ground is basically gravel as opposed to Edmonton's silty clay).
Furthermore, given our winters, all asphalts must be made with an enormous plasticity index, being both pliable in cold conditions and trying to stay homogenous in hot conditions. This is why you see wheel ruts caused by trucks in summer. It's also the reason that crack filling usually gets ripped out in winter / spring. This is further compounded by out weird springs as of late, with upwards to 20 freeze/thaw cycles in a single day. That's tough on anything, let alone a roadway's surface.
So, no, there's not much that can be done, other than hoping that any reconstruction isn't marred by rain during summer and that winters are kind.
Terzaghi and Peck eat your hearts out! :lol: |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by MX5 Miata Guy
Wow...you guys don't know $h!t when it comes to road design and construction.
The predominent reason Edmonton's roads are bad is that:
A) we were glaciated, and any disturbance to the native soil cannot be compacted back as densly, and
B) we are basically in Glacial Lake Edmonton, with all the negative connotations associated with building at the bottom of what once was a lake.
This is why, for the most part, concrete roads and concrete bases don't work in Edmonton (they work wonderfully in Calgary, where the ground is basically gravel as opposed to Edmonton's silty clay).
Furthermore, given our winters, all asphalts must be made with an enormous plasticity index, being both pliable in cold conditions and trying to stay homogenous in hot conditions. This is why you see wheel ruts caused by trucks in summer. It's also the reason that crack filling usually gets ripped out in winter / spring. This is further compounded by out weird springs as of late, with upwards to 20 freeze/thaw cycles in a single day. That's tough on anything, let alone a roadway's surface.
So, no, there's not much that can be done, other than hoping that any reconstruction isn't marred by rain during summer and that winters are kind.
Hurray for Richard:thumbup: :D |
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