| Glenn 328is |
Now, I know that you can't turn on a double red while turning onto a 2-way street, but what if you are turning left onto a 1-way street. For example, a while back turning onto Calgary Trail south when you come up from the Whitemud, there was a double red. I know it was there because CT was very busy, but people went on it when there was a break in traffic. I was once on the line and there was a break in traffic and this dumbass redneck behind me was honking and flashing his lights for me to go. I went when it turned green and then I told him to go to hell when we approached the next set of lights.
Question. On a situation like this, can you go?
I also notice now, they have reduced it to a single red, so you can go.
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| WookeysRX7 |
| I was wondering the exact same thing the other night!!! Damn those rednecks and there big ass trucks!!! hehe :bigthumbup: |
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| Kato |
I know that you can turn left from a one way onto a one way just as you would turning right.
Kato |
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| albertarc |
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Originally posted by Glenn 328is@Feb 6 2003, 11:08 PM
Question. On a situation like this, can you go?
You definitely cannot turn on a double red. A lot of people don't know this though. A good example of this is the Yellowhead eastbound w/ people turning northbound @ 184th Street. The only way you can turn left there is on the green arrow. This changed a year or two ago & people continue to think if there is a green light for eastbound traffic & there's no one coming west they can still turn ... WRONG.
Kato is right about the left turn idea from a one-way to a one-way on a single red (I got that one wrong on a Emergency Vehicle Defensive Driving Test a few years back) as long as it is safe to do so.
Once I thought I was wrong - but I was mistaken!! B)
Jimbo ;) |
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| Glenn 328is |
| I knew it, but why did they remove the second red on that intersection?? On major intersections I notice they are going with an arrow and then a double red, like in Calgary. A very good idea.... |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| I have a question jimbo... if you're familiar with the west end on the whitemud off-ramp heading west for 170 St. exit there's a set of lights at the bridge where heading west you'd turn left to go south.... there's a set of lights there, no double red and two left turning lanes.. the outer left turning lane can only turn left... on a red light can you only turn left inside to inside or can the other one (outer left hand turning lane) turn as well? I'll take a pic + post it if you can't visualize it |
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| RezaREX |
| It's my understanding that both lanes can turn but don't quote me. |
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| bomberman |
| hey slowazz, you are only allowed to turn left from from the left lane from a red on to 170th from the whitemud but people turn from both all the time. |
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| albertarc |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Feb 7 2003, 03:39 PM
on a red light can you only turn left inside to inside or can the other one (outer left hand turning lane) turn as well?
The picture would be great. I think it's the same type of intersection as the example I'm going to use here:
Travelling east on 100th Avenue approaching 170th Street northbound. There's at least two if not three north turning lanes from 100th to 170th. All lanes can turn as long as each driver turns into the appropriate lane, eg. - furthest north lane turn into the furthest west lane, next north into next west etc. Even if you are in the lane that allows for turning or going straight ... you are still allowed to turn as long as it is done in safety - blah blah blah.
Section 109(2)Highway Traffic Act:
When a red light alone is shown by a traffic control signal at the intersection of 2 one-way streets, the driver of a vehicle approaching the intersection facing the red light and intending to make a left turn onto the other one-way street
a - shall stop immediately before entering the marked crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if there is no such marked crosswalk, then imediately before entering the intersection, and
b - shall not proceed until a traffic control signal instructs that driver that the driver is permitted to do so, but, unless a traffic control device prohibits a left turn from being made on the red light, that driver may turn and proceed left at the intersection, if the driver first stops and yields the right of way to any pedestrians in the intersection and any vehicles in or approaching the intersection.
The big thing to remember is you must turn into your appropriate lane & then if you wish you can make a lane change when it is safe. One of my pet peeves is when someone turns but then goes across three to four lanes illegally & w/o signalling. I sometimes think people aren't aware they must turn & then lane change as they tend to do it right in front of & right behind marked police vehicles.
Jimbo :dunno: |
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| albertarc |
quote:
Originally posted by Glenn 328is@Feb 6 2003, 11:08 PM
Question._ On a situation like this, can you go?
"this dumbass redneck behind me was honking and flashing his lights for me to go"
Glenn 328is;
Here's the answer to your question - I believe anytime there is a "double red" light there is also a sign showing "no left turn on double red". The following quote from the HTA is where it states you cannot turn in this type of situation; however, if it is a single red light & there's no other traffic control device (sign) you are allowed to turn as stated in my example to "SlowAzzPorsche911T".
shall not proceed until a traffic control signal instructs that driver that the driver is permitted to do so, but, unless a traffic control device (the "no left turn on double red" sign) prohibits a left turn from being made on the red light, that driver may turn and proceed left at the intersection, if the driver first stops and yields the right of way to any pedestrians in the intersection and any vehicles in or approaching the intersection.
Clear as mud????
I hate it when these dumbass city rednecks give us country rednecks a bad name!!!
Jimbo :wacko: |
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| Glenn 328is |
| I didn't notice a sign, but that second red light is back..... ;) |
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| RF134A |
| I do believe this was caused by the dumbass driving an unmarked cruiser that hit a Ford Tempo killing a little 7 year old boy and injury his brother and his grandfather. NONE of the lights on Yellowhead allow you to turn left on green (ie double red lights). |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| hey now this "dumbass" was exceeding the speed limit but he had a reason for it, ifanything it's the family's fault.... don't recall the incident totally but they turned in front of the speeding cruiser on a yellow... any vehicle in the intersection has the right to clear it and they could've waited for a red... bad judgement on the driver's behalf |
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| RezaREX |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Feb 10 2003, 08:10 AM
hey now this "dumbass" was exceeding the speed limit but he had a reason for it, ifanything it's the family's fault.... don't recall the incident totally but they turned in front of the speeding cruiser on a yellow... any vehicle in the intersection has the right to clear it and they could've waited for a red... bad judgement on the driver's behalf
Haha hey man didn't we have a huge three day debate about this back in high school? But we agreed on this one I think. It's tragic and unfortunate that this happened but you are supposed to practice defensive driving. If a car is coming through and dosn't look like its gonna stop why would you turn in front of it???? |
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| RF134A |
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Originally posted by RezaREX@Feb 10 2003, 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Feb 10 2003, 08:10 AM
hey now this "dumbass" was exceeding the speed limit but he had a reason for it, ifanything it's the family's fault.... don't recall the incident totally but they turned in front of the speeding cruiser on a yellow... any vehicle in the intersection has the right to clear it and they could've waited for a red... bad judgement on the driver's behalf
Haha hey man didn't we have a huge three day debate about this back in high school? But we agreed on this one I think. It's tragic and unfortunate that this happened but you are supposed to practice defensive driving. If a car is coming through and dosn't look like its gonna stop why would you turn in front of it????
Why are you asking me? I'm not the driver. But I *DO* believe it was a senior driving... you know, slow reactions, bad judgement due to senility, etc, etc. ;) :unsure: |
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| inglewood |
Sorry but anytime an officer is reacting to a call and requires himself to break any laws, he's allowed to do so, but anytime he is, it is HIS/HER responsilibty to do so carefully. I feel that this situation is entirely to be laid on the hands of the officer operating the vehicle. He took numerous courses, and training on how to operate a motor vehicle. If you want to get a glimpse of the courses they go through, watch some of the shows on TLC or Discovery.
~Jacques :tear: |
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