| Official 2005 Top 10 Import / Sport Compact Cars - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Z_Fan |
Official List: 2005 Top 10 Import / Sport Compact Cars:
Submissions / Requirements to get on the list:
Cars must be from the province of Alberta. Times must be from an Alberta track. Be sure to include a screen name or real name, make, model and year of car. You must submit a valid quarter mile time slip (photo or scan of slip) which clearly shows the Date, Track, ET & MPH. If no slip is available for your run, the only other acceptable submission method is a video of the run itself.
You can post a link to your timeslip or video in the thread or you can send via e-mail to itlgo@shaw.ca to get onto the list.
*NOTICE: The list has become official as of January 1st, 2006.
2005 TOP 10 FASTEST IMPORTS / SPORT COMPACTS of ALBERTA
1. Z_Fan, 1995 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo, 11.253 @ 129.12 [Bud Park]
2. Sleeper, 1992 Honda Civic Si, 11.865 @ 123.96 [Race City]
3. Rob Kingsley, 1989 Shelby Daytona, 11.932 @ 118.37 [Bud Park]
4. Darryl B/Subracing, 1991 EagleTalon TSi, 12.047 @ 113.93 [Bud Park]
5. Icydude, 1990 Nissan Skyline GTR, 12.124 @ 110.33 [Bud Park]
6. Legendboy, 1994 Acura Integra RS, 12.321 @ 118.40 [Race City]
7. Jeff D/Subracing, 1989 Skyline GT-R, 12.385 @ 115.04 [Bud Park]
8. Nguyen, 1995 Nissan 240sx, 12.593 @ 114.93 (Bud Park)
9. Z_Fan, 2004 Dodge SRT-4 S3R, 12.657 @ 109.51 mph [Race City]
10. Midtown Import, 1990 Honda Civic, 12.659 @ 113.79 mph [Bud Park]
Honorable Mention for 2005:
1. Midtown Import, 1990 Honda CRX, 12.687 @ 117.23 mph (Bud Park)
2. Adam Mac Neil, 1998 Dodge Neon 2.4L Turbo, 12.718 @ 108.65 (Bud Park)
3. John P, 2004 Nissan 350z, 12.786 @ 110.92 (Bud Park)
4. Cody D, 1993 Eagle Talon TSI AWD, 12.787 @ 109.90 (Bud Park)
5. Forcefed, 199x S14 RB20, 12.815 @ 105.17 (Bud Park)
This list will be maintained in threads (hopefully stickied ones!) at www.beyond.ca and www.780tuners.com.
I'll keep it updated regularly. |
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| Z_Fan |
Please note: The list in the initial post shows some cars which I know for fact have run faster. However, the numbers posted are from slips which I can verify personally. (Sleeper and Dconz)
Now I know you've both gone faster, 11's and 12's respectively - so please post or e-mail those slips so we can get your top times on the list. So don't get too excited about the times, I am merely holding spaces for you on the list.
I also know Duncan and LegendBoy (not on the list) have extremely fast times which if submitted would put them near the top of the list. So guys, if you want on the list, please submit.
Lastly, I know that a particular Silver 350z ran 12.7x at Bud Park. That would make a very nice addition to the list.
Aleks, can you post/e-mail your slip?
Can't_Stop_Spin can you post/e-mail your slip?
Markis -> Wasn't sure how to handle your existing post. So I just started a new one. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Damn, Rob came that close to 11s? That's awesome!:thumbup: |
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| Z_Fan |
Adam ... I saw some of your runs at the SCC so I know your car is quick! I've seen the 12.7 run as well on video...thanks for the slip link.
That puts you at #4.
There are a couple guys that were at the Edm SCC that ran really quick times as well. The Silverstone 350 put a 12.7x down and I believe there was a Skyline or something that ran very quick too. Post up your slips guys! |
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| silverTEG |
| there is a video on here with that talon doing a 10 second pass.... :dunno: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by silverTEG
there is a video on here with that talon doing a 10 second pass.... :dunno:
AFAIK Ron's 10 second pass was done in BC (Vancouver?), not in Alberta, so technically doesn't count for this list.
But I think he has an 11.0x @130+ mph run that probably should be on the list (was that at Race City?). |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
AFAIK Ron's 10 second pass was done in BC (Vancouver?), not in Alberta, so technically doesn't count for this list.
But I think he has an 11.0x @130+ mph run that probably should be on the list (was that at Race City?).
I'm awaiting Ron K's timeslips from Edmonton or Calgary. He should be at the top of the list. I just need his timeslip. |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
Here's a break down of my slip, I'll try to find the actual slip so I can post it for you
60' 1.981
330 5.495
1/8 8.401
mph 83.94
1000 10.919
1/4 13.035
mph 107.14 |
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| Z_Fan |
A few updates to the list.
Legendboy submits a nice timeslip and claims the #4 spot on the list. Good job! Slicks and you're in 11's all day long.
Projectsilvia claims the #10 spot on the list, bumping Aleks from the list. A new name on the list, and that's great news! But now Projectsilvia finds himself in the bump position.
Z_Fan runs a bit quicker in Edmonton. Two tenths and a few mph. [Will post time slip when I have some time.]
There is a possibility THEONE will be running at Race City in the final October Secret Street events. If he does get out, there is a good chance his AWD Talon will claim the numero uno position on the list. |
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| DarrylBleau |
Shoot, I better get our slips scanned.
Skyline 12.3@118
STi 13.1@100
RX-7 12.9@113
Which ones are worthwhile to find and scan? Though I think all of the runs are in the SCC vid. (Oh wait.. not the 7, but the other 2 should be). |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
Shoot, I better get our slips scanned.
Skyline 12.3@118
STi 13.1@100
RX-7 12.9@113
Which ones are worthwhile to find and scan? Though I think all of the runs are in the SCC vid. (Oh wait.. not the 7, but the other 2 should be).
Defintely the Skyline and the RX-7. I believe the other slip would be bumped as 12.9 or 13.0 would be holding the pump position. What about the Talon in the list in your sig?
Your additions are important because those cars belong on the list. |
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| Z_Fan |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Z_Fan
Z_Fan runs a bit quicker in Edmonton. Two tenths and a few mph. [Will post time slip when I have some time.]
D'oh! You should've told me you were coming up last night for street legals. I would've made a point to come out to watch.
Darn... guess that's it for the season.
Awesome time (and trap)! |
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| Inzane |
| PS - how do you keep getting let back on the track without a roll cage with those kind of times? |
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| Praylewd powr |
dammit, I ran a 12.96 at 107mph with really awful slicks. Adam can vouch for me but I need to find the timeslip. I was dissapointed with the time so I didn't bother posting, but if it gets me on the top ten, then I will find it (hopefully).
Duane.
H22 turbo civic |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Z_Fan
Defintely the Skyline and the RX-7. I believe the other slip would be bumped as 12.9 or 13.0 would be holding the pump position. What about the Talon in the list in your sig?
Your additions are important because those cars belong on the list.
Talon was last year.
I'll find and scan ASAP. |
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| Adam |
quote:
Originally posted by Praylewd powr
dammit, I ran a 12.96 at 107mph with really awful slicks. Adam can vouch for me but I need to find the timeslip. I was dissapointed with the time so I didn't bother posting, but if it gets me on the top ten, then I will find it (hopefully).
Duane.
H22 turbo civic
I'll vouch for Duane..we went to the track together that night. |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
D'oh! You should've told me you were coming up last night for street legals. I would've made a point to come out to watch.
Darn... guess that's it for the season.
Awesome time (and trap)!
Yeah, not too bad. Yet somehow I felt disappointed when I left the track. I knew I could go faster, but the conditions were not ideal and I had to turn the boost down as I had wheelslip in all gears after the launch.
Go figure, but I think there might have been some condensation on the track and if you didn't have a drag tire, but had lotsa power, you were hooped.
As for the rollbar - I was spoken to twice about it. (Two different people) but they basically said since it was the last night, it'd be OK, but to make sure Santa got a rollbar installed. :D
Santa was early, as I already have the rollbar, now I just need to get it installed. :) Which I wasn't gonna do, but let's face it, the Z is begging for a ten second time slip and it can do it - so get the bar, get the slicks and get the slip. In that order. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Z_Fan
and if you didn't have a drag tire, but had lotsa power, you were hooped.
get the slicks
I thought you're already running some good tires out there. M/T ET Streets, aren't you? |
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| DarrylBleau |
7: 
Skyline slip can't be scanned till monday.
If you could name it "Darryl B/Subracing" that would be great. |
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| Adam |
I would like to know what kind of turbos youre running Z Fan as well as if its still 2 IC or a front mount?
nitrous or WI? progressive controllers?
Boost level?
Rear end?
And where is all the diff rattling gone? how did you cure that?
And great #'s, its good to see the area stepping it up a notch!!:thumbup: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
front mount?
Front mounts are absolutely not necessary (and in fact a waste) on a Z32 and Shawn's is just one more high hp example to prove that. He's running side-mounts. :thumbup:
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And where is all the diff rattling gone? how did you cure that?
Better driver than me. :dunno: That and his original suspension (bushings, etc.) is newer and lower mileage than mine was. That's my guess anyway.
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| Z_Fan |
List Update:
Darryl B gets onto the list with his run in the 12's.
And guess what, projectsilvia is bumped from the list. Well, at least you can say you were on it at one point!
gpomp is now on the BUMP position. |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| I just want to know who that guy was from Fort McMurray last night beating up on the SRT4 on pump gas in the BUG??:lol: |
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| Z_Fan |
List update...
Congrats to Forcefed who gets on the list with his 12 second run and snags 7th place. This bumps gpomp and puts Can't_Stop_Spin onto the bump position. Unless someone gets out and blisters a quick run in an SRT-4, there would appear to be little hope for keeping an SRT-4 on the list. [Hey, there is always next year!] |
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| Adam |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
Skyline:
It's a bit hard to read unless you see the big one:
http://www.nacdsm.org/gallery/Skyli..._quarter?full=1
12.385@115.04
[Edit]Right.. this one is Jeff D/Subracing[/edit]
Awesome...I knew that car wasnt performing at SCC...probbaly still has more in it:thumbup: |
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| 95IntegraRS |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
Awesome...I knew that car wasnt performing at SCC...probbaly still has more in it:thumbup:
Adam, read the date. :thumbup: |
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| Adam |
| whoops...didnt click the link...thought he did that just last week.:p |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
whoops...didnt click the link...thought he did that just last week.:p
heh. You're right though, it wasn't performing. That 12.3 was the best we could do, and it was hesitating and just generally being misbehaved.
We finally figured out that the coils were overheated so we bought 6 cans of red bull (about the right size) and put those on the coils between runs. That helped a lot, but maybe too much as 3rd gear fell out.
I think it's got 11s in it as it sits. And yes, pump gas, the finest 91 octane we could find (I think Wal-Mart). |
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| Z_Fan |
Jeff gets onto the list in the number 5 position with a quick run of 12.385 @ 115 mph. This run was at the Edmonton Sport Compact Challenge and I have been eagerly awaiting the timeslip.
Good job and congrats! It is too bad the car had a problem in the "A" semi-final and fell out of the challenge.
And with that, the only representation of the Dodge SRT-4 makes a hasty exit from the Top 10. Can't_Stop_Spin is bumped from the list and everyone now needs a run in the 12 second range just to get on.
Still awaiting that timeslip from the Silver 350z that ran a 12.7x at Bud Park in the SCC on the 17th...which will only make getting on the list harder.
Dconz is now in the bump position. |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
| crap:( I know there's a 12 second run in my car. Oh well, next year I'll make the list and stay on it:thumbup: |
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| Z_Fan |
Took the SRT-4 out for the final Secret Streets event in Calgary. I applied pretty much everything I have learned this year from drag racing the Z...and banged off some very respectable times in the SRT-4.
Here is the fastest timeslip of the evening.
This is good enough to snag the #6 spot on the list. I feel bad for knocking out a fellow Z owner from the list, however, it's nice to have the SRT-4's being represented on the list. Oh dear, I have two cars on the list.
I believe with a few mods to the SRT-4, and taking her on the road to Bud Park may just yield a low 12 or high 11 pass next year. But with baby on the way, mods may not be possible for some time. |
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| Cody D |
| Wow congrats Z Fan on the SRT pass also, you seem to be having a good year. I think I'm going to get bumped soon. All 12's or better, that's a pretty good list. |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by Cody D
Wow congrats Z Fan on the SRT pass also, you seem to be having a good year. I think I'm going to get bumped soon. All 12's or better, that's a pretty good list.
Thanks man. The SRT-4 was pretty zippy last night. I had a really good time at the strip. I love beating up on the SRT-4. :p |
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| Z_Fan |
Top 10 List Update:
Lots of action on the list today. So, here we go with the update.
Z_Fan’s 12.657 run in the SRT-4 at the last Secret Street event at Race City bumped Dconz and puts Darryl B onto the BUMP position! Wow! The SRT-4 was just screaming on Friday night.
sr20det95’s (Auto Dream) Silvia S14 has a 12.593 run from the SCC in Edmonton. This is good enough to steal the sixth spot on the list from…*ME* … god dammit!
The Silvia’s run bumps Darryl B/Subracing Mazda RX-7 from the list.
John P introduces himself to the list with a smooth run of 12.786 @ 110 mph. This run was also at the SCC in Edmonton. Good job, and it’s great to have a 350z on the list. Since it’s the only one, well, I guess John lays claim to the fastest 350z in Alberta. Congrats! I hope you can hang onto a position on the Top 10.
That run bumps Forcefed’s S14 run from the list. Well, the good news is that at least the S14’s are still represented on the list. Nice job guys, those are some fast cars.
Interestingly enough, John’s run is 0.001 seconds faster than Cody D. Now, that’s what I call close. Unfortunately that 1/1000 of a second puts Cody D onto the BUMP position. I have bad news Cody, I think you’re going to get bumped from the list in due time. Well, you can keep your fingers crossed at any rate.
That completes the list update. |
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| Z_Fan |
Alrighty folks, here is the scoop. I’d like the list of the fastest imports / sport compacts in Alberta to be as accurate, competitive and complete as possible. In other words, if runs were made in Alberta and the cars were quick enough to get onto the list, I’d like to see them on the list.
I need your help!
There are a couple of cars that ran at the SCC in Edmonton – time slip data for which I already have in my possession. However, I don’t know anything about the owners or if they actually want their times to be represented on the Top 10 list. For runs done at the SCC in Edmonton, only cars whose owners have expressed interest to appear on the list will be added. I'm not just adding the cars because I think they belong. I want to ensure that the owner wants their car on the list.
If you can help me with tracking a couple of drivers down, that would be fantastic as there are two cars that should be on the list but I have no info other than times.
First car. I need to find the owner of a White Honda CRX which actually got to the Elimination “A” final race. I have time slip information (and video) of a 12.691 run. The car was R49 at the event.
Second car. This car was eliminated in the first round of the “A” eliminations in Edmonton by the above car. It I believe is a Black (dark anyhow) Honda Civic. It ran a 12.753 on the slip I have for it and this car was R48.
These two cars (and their runs) can be seen on the Edmonton SCC video (first race) that I believe Loose posted up a while back. (on beyond.ca) |
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| Cody D |
| Uh-oh I'm about to get bumped. I'll have to go faster next year. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Both the Civics of which you are talking about are Midtown Imports cars. I'm sure they will see this forum thread and post up soon enough, they don't make appearances on the internet too often though. |
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| DarrylBleau |
What? Bump me off the list? Dammit!
Ah well, good thing I had a busy day this saturday.
Got the talon back in one piece at the last possible moment (this is getting to be a recurring theme). Begged and pleaded my way (with the help of Blaine) into running with the trailer queen v8 old school muscle cars at the final event at bud park and despite the fact that (a the new motor km's are read in 3 digits b) it was assembled the night before c) we drove through a lot of the night to break it in and d) it wasn't tuned at all and e) the intake cam was severely mis-clocked we got off some slightly disappointing but half decent numbers from the car:
http://www.nacdsm.org/gallery/v/Dar...C00669.jpg.html
What is impressive to me anyway is that we ran the car non-stop all day.. if you look, some of the passes are 5 minutes between. And the time lapses we did have were only because the big v8s wanted to run their competition (selfish bastards) so we did some street tuning while we could (keeping within the speed limits, of course). The car was crazy out of tune (ran 16:1 A/F at one point..) but we kept randomly mashing buttons on the eManage until the 12.047@113.92 manifested itself. I'm also happy to be running 1.6 60's this year over the 1.7s of last, but I was really hoping for even better.
Next year, with a proper cam clocking and perhaps at least some semblance of tune and maybe even an engine with a 4 digit odometer, I hope to do even better. I intend to daily drive the car all winter so that's either going to break things or work the bugs out.
Whee!
[edit]Sorry Cody! But does this mean I can claim fastest DSM in Alberta for 2005? :P[/edit] |
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| Z_Fan |
Another Update!
Darryl B gets back onto the list with some last minutes runs at Bud Park in Edmonton. Not in the RX-7, but in an Eagle Talson TSi. We're not talking about just squeaking onto the list either - we're talking screaming right up near the top! Darryl's fast runs take the 3rd spot on the list.
Almost into the 11 second realm and from the sounds of it, 11's will surely be seen next year. Fantastic 60 foot times too. Very very sweet 60 foots!
Unfortunately, that bumps Cody from the list. Sorry man, and nope, we can't put your 10 second bike times on the list! It moves John and his Supercharged 350z to the BUMP position.
Congrats on your run Darryl. That's very nice!
Sidenote: Darryl's run takes 3rd spot away from Rob. Yet it would appear Rob did have one run into the elevens. Send me a timeslip and you'll re-claim 3rd spot on the list. See, now there is some pressure to get that thing scanned. Before, there wasn't. Let the digging commence.
Honorable mention.
I have decided that the Top 5 cars in the BUMP list will ultimately form a small list ... and we'll call it honorable mention for those who narrowly missed the list yet have very impressive times. |
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| DarrylBleau |
Hey Z, just wanted to say 'Thanks' publically for maintaining this list. I'm sure everyone on the list appreciates the effort but sometimes it's nice to hear it so .. kudos to you.
I hearby decree that everyone on the list owes you a beer. Or whatever you drink. You've done the best job thus far bar none. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Yea, definately doing a sweet job Z. Props to you man. |
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| DarrylBleau |
Random stats from the 'lists':
2003
ET Spread 1.4
MPH Spread 17
AVG ET 12.214
AVG MPH 113.66
2004
ET Spread 0.76
MPH Spread 12.02
AVG ET 12.243
AVE MPH 115.742
2005
ET Spread - 1.533
MPH Spread - 19.61
AVG ET 12.269
AVG MPH 115.758 |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
Hey Z, just wanted to say 'Thanks' publically for maintaining this list.
You're most welcome.
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
Yea, definately doing a sweet job Z. Props to you man.
Thanks. Glad to do it. :)
I look forward to next year when I think we're going to finally see a couple 10 second and faster entries on this list. Wowzers!
Looking forward to those runs. :cool: |
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| Cody D |
Wow congrats Darryl on the Talon run, I was happy to be on the list for a little while anyway. I have to ask though, was it pump gas? Doesn't matter to me either way since I am a race gas junkie, but you are the resident pump gas devotee.
I am also very happy that ZFan has done such a good job on the list, very impressive, I didn't know there was so many quick sport compacts in this province. |
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| Ron@Revolution |
quote:
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[edit]Sorry Cody! But does this mean I can claim fastest DSM in Alberta for 2005? :P[/edit] [/B]
Last time I checked my car is in Alberta? Congrats on the times though.;) |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Last time I checked my car is in Alberta? Congrats on the times though.;)
Sure but you didn't run the times in Alberta did you? There are plenty of other much faster DSMs that ran times outside Alberta...
Speaking of which.. why didn't you? I would have loved to see you run. You would have given Z a run at the #1 spot. I admit I was gunning for it... with some dyno time it might have been possible. Well that's what my bench says anyway :) |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Cody D
Wow congrats Darryl on the Talon run, I was happy to be on the list for a little while anyway. I have to ask though, was it pump gas? Doesn't matter to me either way since I am a race gas junkie, but you are the resident pump gas devotee.
You don't really think I'd run slower on race gas than pump do you? :) |
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| NTM |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
You don't really think I'd run slower on race gas than pump do you? :)
Anything is possible when you build the motor the night before and tune it on the way to the track :D |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| You just said you were the fastest DSM in Alberta, well I'm in Alberta, my car is in ALberta you get the point. The reason I didn't run the car this year was a time constraint when I went to BC to visit familly :rolleyes: I just used it as an excues to get a couple of runs in. Also I was fully planning on attending the SCC but a tire started to seperate the day before and I wasn't willing to risk my life or car. I well be out next year as ussaly though so everyone better get there game faces on.:) I don't think anything under mid to high 140's well cut it and a very low ten to high nine. Its kind of cool how BC tracks are still open to bad my times there don't count??? Hows that saying to be the man you have to beat the man.:D |
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| DarrylBleau |
quote:
Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
You just said you were the fastest DSM in Alberta, well I'm in Alberta, my car is in ALberta you get the point. The reason I didn't run the car this year was a time constraint when I went to BC to visit familly :rolleyes: I just used it as an excues to get a couple of runs in. Also I was fully planning on attending the SCC but a tire started to seperate the day before and I wasn't willing to risk my life or car. I well be out next year as ussaly though so everyone better get there game faces on.:) I don't think anything under mid to high 140's well cut it and a very low ten to high nine. Its kind of cool how BC tracks are still open to bad my times there don't count??? Hows that saying to be the man you have to beat the man.:D
Oh they count, just not as an 'in Alberta' time. I'm fully aware that if you would have run here you would most likely have been 'fastest run by a DSM in Alberta for 2005' but, you didn't :). I also almost didn't get to run and Cody would have been officially the taker of the 'fastest run in Alberta by a DSM in 2005', despite the fact that I'm in Alberta and so are you (and a few choice others we both know of that didn't run).
If we're just talking DSMs in general no matter where they run, we both
have a lot of ground to make up. You less than me, no doubt, but still, if anyone is looking to be 'the man' there's at least a 100 others to beat.
Next year looks interesting :). Friendly competition helps everyone. With the economic growth of Alberta recently I think next year might step up the 'list stats' I threw up on a previous post.
140MPH? That's it? :P |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| Yeh 140's is it, but then again we here the talk every year but very few step up to the plate. There is however a huge difference between the fastest DSM in ALberta, and the fastest run in ALberta by a DSM. I thought there were going to be some 10 second cars this year, but I guess that was just talk to.:confused: I hope everyone is out next year with there bugs worked out and ready to run, that is what makes it fun. Congrats agian to Z_Fan great times and a great car. See you all next year.:p |
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| DarrylBleau |
| Z might have been a 10 second car at sea level, but it's all speculation. He made his runs 2200 feet above that though. |
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| Cody D |
quote:
Originally posted by DarrylBleau
I also almost didn't get to run and Cody would have been officially the taker of the 'fastest run in Alberta by a DSM in 2005'
What did Steven run this year, I know he has a 12 second Talon.
This arguing semantics is getting old, Ron is the fastest DSM in Alberta, Darryl got the fastest run by a DSM in Alberta for 2005, wasn't that easy?
I claim fastest White AWD Talon driven by a guy named Cody in Alberta for 2005. :thumbup: |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| Sea level makes very little difference on high boost application where traction is also limitied. Dale ran 8.0 at Bud Park and even though Mission is his home track his best ET there was only 7.9. He also ran his car 20 times as much in BC as he did here. NA is a different story where you can pick up close to 3-4 Tenths. You also have to take in to consideration what the temp and humidity is the day you run. When I was there the corrected alltitude was 3300Ft being very humid and 38-39 above. If you get there on a dry cold night this number would be closer to 0Ft. |
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| NTM |
quote:
Originally posted by Cody D
This arguing semantics is getting old, Ron is the fastest DSM in Alberta, Darryl got the fastest run by a DSM in Alberta for 2005, wasn't that easy?
I claim fastest White AWD Talon driven by a guy named Cody in Alberta for 2005. :thumbup:
I call fastest '95 camaro in the lakeland region :lol: |
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| DarrylBleau |
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Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Sea level makes very little difference on high boost application where traction is also limitied. Dale ran 8.0 at Bud Park and even though Mission is his home track his best ET there was only 7.9. He also ran his car 20 times as much in BC as he did here. NA is a different story where you can pick up close to 3-4 Tenths. You also have to take in to consideration what the temp and humidity is the day you run. When I was there the corrected alltitude was 3300Ft being very humid and 38-39 above. If you get there on a dry cold night this number would be closer to 0Ft.
I disagree on this one... but really don't want to get into it again. I think there's a thorough discussion on NACDSM about it. To the point, barometric pressure has just as much effect on an FI vehicle as a NA _if_ the FI vehicle is running at it's absolute limit.
Of course there is more variables that just that. But, all else being equal, higher ambient air pressure means that you have to compress air that much less and your charge air will be that much colder.
But anyways, regardless of what you think on the subject, I don't think anyone would disagree that without having actually ran at a specific track, you can only guess at what your results would be there. And I stand by what I said, if Z had run at sea level, he might very well have been in the 10s, and he just as well might not have been, but he's the only one that was close enough to have it even be a possibility. |
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| DarrylBleau |
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Originally posted by Cody D
What did Steven run this year, I know he has a 12 second Talon.
This arguing semantics is getting old, Ron is the fastest DSM in Alberta, Darryl got the fastest run by a DSM in Alberta for 2005, wasn't that easy?
I claim fastest White AWD Talon driven by a guy named Cody in Alberta for 2005. :thumbup:
I'm not arguing anything.. if you notice, I gave a ':P', that was directed towards you but I think it whizzed right over your head... :P (<---- NOTICE?).
That being said, this list is called 'TOP 10 FASTEST IMPORTS / SPORT COMPACTS of ALBERTA' and is quite specific that it only includes runs actually made in Alberta... (hence the 'of ALBERTA' part) and doesn't extend to cars that happen to reside here but made runs elsewhere. I'm not sure why that needed to be specified but it appears that it did. There are separate lists that vary the runs that extend to them but they all make a specific distinction as to what cars/runs can be included... this list is no different than any other one.
[edit]And before anyone says I'm trying to defend something.. I'm not. I don't want to be called the fastest anything... it's not what I'm after. But if you're going to have a specific exclusion list then you'd better stick to it, is all I'm saying. If I would have purchased a certain yellow DSM powered rocket that was for sale recently I wouldn't expect to be called the 'fastest DSM in Alberta' (despite the fact that it likely would be the most capable car that resides in Alberta) until I had personally made a run _in_ Alberta, and that's all I have to say about it. Disagree if you want, variety is the spice of life.[/edit] |
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| Z_Fan |
** UPDATE **
We have two new entries onto the Top 10 Fastest Imports / Sport Compacts. Both are Midtown Import Hondas with fast passes done at the Edmonton Sport Compact Challenge.
They lay claim to the number 9 and 10 spots on the list, and I'm happy to finally get these slips and car information. These runs make it even more difficult to get onto the list as now you need a very quick pass of 12.687 or better.
On the list and on the BUMP position is the Honda CRX. Yet now is probably a very safe time to be on the #10 spot and actually have some hope of retaining it.
With Race City and Bud Park closed for the year, I think we may very well have the top 10 list, although I know if certain people do enough digging for time slips, they may be able to improve their positions on the list.
Unfortunately, now we get to the bad news. With every success story about a fast pass taking a spot on the list - we also have the other side of the coin to deal with. Those who get BUMPED!
This BUMPS Adam's very quick Neon from the list, and also off the list goes John's Supercharged 350z. Fortunately we recently had the addition of the Honorable Mention list, and your times will sit right at the top. |
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| Pro Drag |
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| Z_Fan |
Nice slip. :rolleyes:
This is the slip I was referring to - and I'm glad you submitted it even though I can hardly read it. <smile>
This swaps position 3 and position 4. No one gets bumped.
The reposted slip looks great! Much easier to see. Thanks. |
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| Z_Fan |
BUMPED. Dconz, 1990 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo, 12.974 @ 113.50 (Bud Park)
BUMPED. Can't_Stop_Spin, 2004 Dodge SRT-4, 13.035 @ 107.14 (Bud Park)
BUMPED. gpomp, 1995 Honda Civic DX Coupe, 13.091 @ 110.01 (Race City)
BUMPED. Projectsilvia, 1988 Nissan Silvia SR20DET, 13.397 @ 107.28 (Race City)
BUMPED. Aleks, 1999 Acura Integra, 13.433 @ 110.09 (Race City) |
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| Z_Fan |
As the year is very quickly coming to a close, the list has had what will likely be its final update.
Icydude is officially on the list with a quick run (months ago) at Bud Park. His run sneaks into the 5th quickest position with a very impressive time of 12.124. A video and a timeslip were submitted for this entry. Good job.
The list has been updated to contain hyperlinks to each submissions proof. [Timeslip] Despite some early critism of requiring a timeslip, I do feel it is important for the accuracy of the task and beats the heck out of hearsay. :rolleyes:
The list is comprised of the fastest 10 SCC/import cars that ran in Alberta (and submitted a slip) - and it is worthy of note that this list has both the highest MPH and the lowest ET average since Loose started compiling the Top 10 list in 2003. So, congratulations to everyone, good job.
12.184 average ET trapping at an average of 116.74 mph.
Knowing there were some extremely fast cars that didn't run in Alberta this year means the list will be even more competitive next year. So look for that average ET and trap to top the 2005 list. 2006 should be exciting, and I encourage everyone to keep your timeslips, get them submitted and continue to make the list complete and competitive for next year.
Santa is coming soon! Here's hoping he's got car parts to make your ride F-A-S-T-E-R. |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| Looks like we should be putting M3the01 in the number 1 spot he has PM'd me that he ran a 10.2 @ 143Mph in Edmonton at Bud Park. |
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| Cody D |
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Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Looks like we should be putting M3the01 in the number 1 spot he has PM'd me that he ran a 10.2 @ 143Mph in Edmonton at Bud Park.
Any proof? I know it's splitting hairs, but does an M3 qualify as a sport compact? |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| I guess we well see!:fingersx: |
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| newred |
I think that this kid is only 15 & swinging from somebody’s nut sack.:blink:
Hey shit, I ran an 8.86 in my Supra (or well I know a person that did), well I do not know him, but I did see the video & it looks like it was at Bud Park.
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Looks like we should be putting M3the01 in the number 1 spot he has PM'd me that he ran a 10.2 @ 143Mph in Edmonton at Bud Park.
What was he running in? His twin turbo, M3 v6???? That is making a 1000hp…
:confused: :confused:
Not likely
Some peoples kids.
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Looks like we should be putting M3the01 in the number 1 spot he has PM'd me that he ran a 10.2 @ 143Mph in Edmonton at Bud Park.
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| Cody D |
| Does anyone have any info on M3the01's alleged 10 second car? Anyone know him? |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by Cody D
Does anyone have any info on M3the01's alleged 10 second car? Anyone know him?
He has a 2G DSM with all the goodies and one of Magnus' Dogmissions.
I would like to see a timeslip too, congratulations on the pass , that is movin. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
He has a 2G DSM with all the goodies and one of Magnus' Dogmissions.
I would like to see a timeslip too, congratulations on the pass , that is movin.
Come on, you cannot believe this shit. If some Talon ran a low 10sec in Edmonton, you would have heard of it all ago.
I think that this is all bullshit.
Why haven anybody ever hear of this car before. If it has all the goodies & a dog box. People would be taking up this car. Like, come on people, give your head a shake.
Winter will be over soon...
Shit, this person sound like that poor old guy named Rodger.
(RIP)
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Roger.. is he dead? |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by newred
Come on, you cannot believe this shit. If some Talon ran a low 10sec in Edmonton, you would have heard of it all ago.
I think that this is all bullshit.
Why haven anybody ever hear of this car before. If it has all the goodies & a dog box. People would be taking up this car. Like, come on people, give your head a shake.
Winter will be over soon...
Shit, this person sound like that poor old guy named Rodger.
(RIP)
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Steve can chime in himself if he wants, I have seen the car with my own eyes, it's been in the shop. If you don't see it on the internet it can't be true? |
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| Cody D |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
Steve can chime in himself if he wants, I have seen the car with my own eyes, it's been in the shop. If you don't see it on the internet it can't be true?
It's not just the internet though, Alberta's Import community isn't really large enough to hide a low 10 second Talon. Unless he ran that time out of province, you would think that we would have heard about it. |
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| Inzane |
If no one has seen this car run that in person, just get him to prove it again in 2006 with witnesses.
Besides:
Once = fluke
Twice = verified |
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| Ron@Revolution |
| I was told the "run" was done at Bud Park. |
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| newred |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
Steve can chime in himself if he wants, I have seen the car with my own eyes, it's been in the shop. If you don't see it on the internet it can't be true?
It was at your shop, you say???
Than for sure he didn't run no 10sec pass (maybe 15's):dunno: |
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| Lococoin |
quote:
Originally posted by newred
It was at your shop, you say???
Than for sure he didn't run no 10sec pass (maybe 15's):dunno:
LOL |
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| Adam |
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Originally posted by Inzane
If no one has seen this car run that in person, just get him to prove it again in 2006 with witnesses.
Besides:
Once = fluke
Twice = verified
How the hell can a 10 sec run be a fluke...bad choice of words....you dont fluke 10 sec.:rolleyes: |
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| n0c7 |
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Originally posted by Adam
How the hell can a 10 sec run be a fluke...bad choice of words....you dont fluke 10 sec.:rolleyes:
It's all about the wind Adam.
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| Ron@Revolution |
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
How the hell can a 10 sec run be a fluke...bad choice of words....you dont fluke 10 sec.:rolleyes:
I think he means could possibly be a timming error etc. |
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| Cody D |
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Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
I think he means could possibly be a timming error etc.
So was your 10 second pass a fluke? :D |
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| Ron@Revolution |
Yep ask anyone! I think it was a ground hog trip the lights!:thumbup:
Did I mention he did more then once!:mad: |
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| newred |
I want to see this 10sec car. Also what turbo is he running?
what kind of tires is he running.
Shit Ron was smoking his tires & they are BFG kd's
If he even has a car:drama: |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by newred
I want to see this 10sec car. Also what turbo is he running?
Last I heard it was an FP3052. |
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| Z_Fan |
Happy new year. Welcome to 2006. :)
The list has become official. No more entries will be accepted for the 2005 Top 10 Fastest SCC / Import list. Next year [if I am keeping the list] the entry deadline will be a couple weeks after the tracks close. When I decided I'd offer up my time to maintain the list, it was just clear to me that the compilation of the list wasn't really going to happen unless someone grabbed the ball and ran with it. Anyhow, that is why there was a great deal of flexibility provided. [with respect to time allotted to submit a slip for a 1/4 mile pass]
This year nearly twenty submissions of 12 second or faster slips were received. That's impressive and tells you that there are several cars not on the list that can run 12's...so the list is very competitive in that area.
I would be happy to keep the list for next year as well. If that is OK with everyone.
I think if we actually attempt to draw some awareness to the list, we'll perhaps receive a broader representation of the fastest street cars in our province. As a group, the list shows that sport compacts / import tuners have some extremely fast street legal machines in Alberta. Good job.
Again, Happy New Year and best of luck in 2006.
[For most beyond.ca members, you'd need to read the 780tuners.com thread to hear full discussion on the M3.]
My 0.02 on the M3.
Whether or not the run by the M3 happened or not is of little consequence now. For this M3 -> no time slip and/or video was ever received in this thread or via e-mail ... and as such, no proof has been presented to verify the claim. The M3 would indeed be considered a car eligible for the list. So, next year if this car runs the owner should post up the video or timeslips as did the others who are on the list. Simple as that. |
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| Cody D |
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Originally posted by Z_Fan
I would be happy to keep the list for next year as well. If that is OK with everyone.
I'm all for that, you did a great job this year, it should be the top 20 though so I can be on it, kidding. |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by Z_Fan
My 0.02 on the M3.
Whether or not the run by the M3 happened or not is of little consequence now. For this M3 -> no time slip and/or video was ever received in this thread or via e-mail ... and as such, no proof has been presented to verify the claim. The M3 would indeed be considered a car eligible for the list. So, next year if this car runs the owner should post up the video or timeslips as did the others who are on the list. Simple as that.
It wasn't an M3, it is a 2G DSM. His screen name is in elite hacker speak I believe or something equally as stupid. |
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| Z_Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by Pro Drag
It wasn't an M3, it is a 2G DSM. His screen name is in elite hacker speak I believe or something equally as stupid.
Ahh, OK - I just read the thread more carefully and see that was already pointed out. [that it was a DSM] :)
Anyhow - doesn't matter what car it was I suppose, nothing was received as far as time slip/video so I guess the end result is the same. |
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| DarrylBleau |
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Originally posted by Z_Fan
I would be happy to keep the list for next year as well. If that is OK with everyone.
For sure. You da man :).
quote:
Originally posted by Z_Fan
I think if we actually attempt to draw some awareness to the list, we'll perhaps receive a broader representation of the fastest street cars in our province. As a group, the list shows that sport compacts / import tuners have some extremely fast street legal machines in Alberta. Good job.
Street legal?
With that in mind, should there be any thought given to specifying what times are eligible for submission? I think we've already nailed down that 'in Alberta' refers to the run itself, but what about the car? If someone comes in from BC and makes a run here is it eligible for submission? Or does the car have to be registered in Alberta AND make a run in Alberta? (Does the car have to be registered (street-legal)?). If we want to draw awareness I think specifics have to be drawn out, unfortunately, or no one is going to take it seriously. I suppose the real question is, what is this list supposed to be tracking, _exactly_? |
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| Adam |
I think everyone took the list seriously this year...as for specifics I would think any car that is registered and insured in Alberta is eligible. Thats good enough for me.
If you start getting nick picky it'll just cause too many variations and arguements and ruin the list for the future IMO. |
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| DarrylBleau |
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Originally posted by Adam
I think everyone took the list seriously this year...as for specifics I would think any car that is registered and insured in Alberta is eligible. Thats good enough for me.
Unless I'm mistaken, I believe 'registered and insured in Alberta' would already cut a few cars off the list. But that's really what I'd cast my vote for as well, street-legal cars from Alberta that have provingly gone fast, in Alberta. (Trailer queens, fast as they might get, don't interest me). I think that's fairly simple but unless you state it I think you've got a recipe for conflict. There's a whole lot else to get nit-picky on (slicks, NOS, and don't get me started on pump gas...) but it all boils down to what we want to be measuring here. |
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| Z_Fan |
There is definitely some need to formulate a decent set of guidelines or specific requirements for the list.
It's difficult, because frankly I believe we should be attempting to eliminate purpose-built drag cars that happen to be imports. The "street legal" comment I made wasn't meant to imply that all those cars on the list ran in street legal condition. I suppose if you count modified [widened tip] exhausts, well, then probably none of the cars are street legal. I'm sure several of the entries weren't on street legal tires, etc. [My Z ran on Street Legal tires, my SRT-4 did not -> a fine example of this exact issue.] [My Z ran on modified exhaust, the SRT-4 is street legal.] Etc.
So yeah, at some point we should have an open discussion of ideas about this topic. One of the things that immediately was of great annoyance [to me] was exactly this lack of any type of rules/guidelines/requirements as well as a clear definition of what a Sport Compact Car actually is...
I'm definitely in total agreement with the fact that the car should be registered and insured in the province of Alberta. What I'm not sure about is an actual requirement to PROVE this for the sake of getting on the list. I think you have to just list it as a requirement, and hope that the people getting onto the list are doing so in earnest.
Since everyone will immediately question a 10 second entry, I'd be perfectly OK with requiring both a timeslip AND a video for those entries. [No, I'm not kidding.] But next year there are people who are gunning for the 10 second pass [and faster] in Alberta. So, knowing what they are trying to achieve ... it shouldn't be a real big issue to get it videotaped. It'd definitely be a rock solid method which leaves very little for dispute or debate. Thus, no bickering. I'm totally for that in fact...
I think we should throw around some other ideas. Suggestions and comments...always a good place to start. |
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