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BlueTurboEGG


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redbaron303
Hmmm.... maybe that should be my treat to self for graduating instead of project 280Z..... :wacko:

Maybe I'll buy both because this degree and my initiative are supposed to get me a good paying job............ :blink: :fingersx:

mrprecidia
That looks really nice. :bigthumbup:

REFLUX
s'alrite :mellow:

dogstar
snice :)

definitely get the girlies in that thing, specially in red.

SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS
Sr8 up pimpin'!!

Nightstalker
nice

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by redbaron303@Feb 9 2003, 09:22 AM
Maybe I'll buy both because this degree and my initiative are supposed to get me a good paying job............

Trust me, starting off your life after school with $45k+ in debt is not a smart thing to do at all.

redbaron303
Ya... I gotta hope that I won't be too much in debt.... I'll cut my costs on what I can now, so I can pay cash for school for the enxt 3 years.... That is a best case scenario.

uncle ben
Bon!

GTS Jeff
pimp...but not the car u would buy if u were serious about performance

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Feb 10 2003, 01:58 AM
but not the car u would buy if u were serious about performance

Funny you make that comment. I guess it depends on what aspects of "performance" you're most interested in and what you are comparing it to.

If you look at its primary market, then the 350Z already has enough performance to beat most of its competition. For the roadster specfically (what this topic is about), I'm citing its competition as:
M-B SLK, BMW Z3 (or Z4 now), Audi TT, S2000, and the Boxster S.

I'd hardly say the 350Z is outgunned here.

BlueTurboEGG
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Feb 10 2003, 01:58 AM
pimp...but not the car u would buy if u were serious about performance

I didn't start it, but hell, I'll finish it :D

Not serious about performance? bwahahahaha :lol:

Compared to what?.

Certainly has the ability to yank the teeth out of the S2000 :P

Funny, lower pricetag, better performance AND more potential... What a concept :)

s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Feb 10 2003, 09:07 PM
Certainly has the ability to yank the teeth out of the S2000 :P

Funny, lower pricetag, better performance AND more potential... What a concept :)


...Yank the teeth out of the S2000, yup, i'll give u that in terms of torque.....LOL....but go take a look at the 0-60s....its identicle! ....Gosh, I wish i had the specs for both cars again but geez.....I know the car is over 500lbs heavier than mine! ....The car needs all that torque and HP to keep up with me :P

Plus, I test drove it :P I didnt like the way it handled :P....must be cuz the car is overweight....it needs to go do some cardio...hahaha :P :D

Price tag should be a bit more than the S cuz its a roadster....the hardtop is maybe 1-2000 bucks less than the S

s2oooR
oh yeah, i'll give u more potential too.....THAT, it defintiely has!

BlueTurboEGG
Well, I look at it this way, torque just means daily driving is made easier.

A big fat usable torque band is truly nice around the city. As opposed to downshifting two gears just to go uphill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can hear your whining now: It's not that bad! it works fine for me

:)

0 to 60 mph in just 5.8 seconds and the standing quarter-mile in just 14.4 seconds, according to Car and Driver magazine. The S2000 is capable of 150 mph at the top end. It takes a little rowing through the gearbox to generate passing speeds, but the S2000 is otherwise as composed and comfortable as any other topless boulevardier. It's great for someone who wants a superbike with the increased safety of four wheels.

Car and Driver Road test of 350Z
(Track with 6 spd MT)
Aug. 2002 5.4 sec. NA 14.1 @ 101 mph
70-0 164 ft.
.88g

Motor Trend Road test of 350Z
(Touring with 6 spd MT)
Sept.
2002 5.49 sec. 13.58
sec. 13.95 @ 102.25 mph
60-0 115 ft.
.88g

Road & Track Road test of 300ZX TT (5 spd MT)
Feb. 1994 6.0 sec. 14.2
sec. 14.4
@ 97 mph
60-0 124 ft.
.87g

Just for Comparo numbers:

Infiniti G35 Coupe' my favorite (longer wheelbase, 12.6" longer overall with the added 1 cubic foot of trunk space over the Z and about 200 lbs heavier than the Z)

Car and Driver test if G35 Coupe' (6 spd MT)
Zero to 60 mph 5.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph 14.6 sec
Standing 1/4-mile 14.4 sec @ 98 mph
Top speed (governor limited) 155 mph

(ps. research you're own damn performance numbers you lazy bum! :P :) )

As for no performance, my retort:



(That is a Stillen pre-production Supercharger peeking out from that hood that needs work... go0d for about 80 hp)





Greddy Prototype car makes 417 RWHP at .7 BAR of BOOST!

Features:

-Twin TD05H 18G Turbochargers

- Twin Type-S External Wastegates

- SUS Header Type Manifolds

- 3 Row Type 23 Front Mount Intercooler

- Twin AirRinx Air Filters

- e-Manage Engine Control Unit


'Nuff said.

redbaron303
Go Andy..... show those Honda guys who's boss! But really... twin turbo or supercharged Z33.... :bigthumbup: :bow:

s2oooR
that 0-60 is on the high side....lol...:P

usually get an average of 5.5 between magazines :P

and the S can reach in the 160's for top speed,,,,on the S2000 site, theres a video to prove it too :P

..........mmmm whatelse? ...oh yeah....I think those G's prove the S is a better handling car too :P...not to mention the stopping distance :P

so there! :P hahaha....

I DO like the twin turbos though *drool*......too expensive for my taste though....Andy was saying how the twin turbo's were like 15000 alone...plus install and tuning? ...damnnn,, might as well buy yourself another car :P

BlueTurboEGG
Face it, you're car just ain't the pimpest thing around anymore and you need a bigger penis :)

Car and Driver recently did a comparo... Fourth Audi TT 1.8, The S2000 came third... Second?, the new Mustang Mach 1... First? 350Z... TOURING model...

Also the S2000 was slower: 0 to 60 timed at 6.3 seconds on a car that has just broken in.

"Our own 0-to-60 time of 6.3 seconds was set with a hole shot just south of the redline on a car with only 369 miles on the odo, but that's behavior reserved for people who can do clutch changes on their lunch hour. Regular Joes can expect 60 mph to arrive closer to the 7.6 seconds "

Handling?, the S2000 was one of the slower cars around the track too...

"The 350Z Touring's 5.7-second run to 60 mph and 14.3-second quarter-mile make it the second-quickest gas burner to the Mustang, and the 0.86 skidpad grip and the 163-foot stopping distance suggest it has reflexes that are second best to the Honda. So all were surprised when the Z set the fastest average speed of 77.7 mph around the track. "

Just goes to show you, numbers aren't everything... Balance is everything.

Go read the article if you don't believe me: http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/co...=S2000&class=20

Can you attest to you're claimed "5.5 between magazines?"


Now for your 160MPH video, I'd rather see that ACTUALLY measured. Gauges are notoriously inaccurate at high speeds.

Yeah, the turbo kit is expensive, but a highly reliable high horsepower turbo kit is hard to come by... I'd like to see a Honda do that :)

s2oooR
.....they need a better driver :P ....and a car thats actually broken in :P .....I think its pretty well documented that full break in occurs at around 12 000kms or so? give or take....

....and yeah....i got a magazine to prove it... :P..in fact i have it listed at 5.3 seconds in the magazine...

i guess your right about the video....u need something more accurate, my bad :P

BlueTurboEGG
Still, all the other cars are under the same crutch, no break-in low milage...

You wanna know what the saleman told my buddy when I did all the leg work, and nearly all the paper work to sell him and get a great price on a Celica GT? and I quote:

Buddy: "How long do I need before I break in the motor"
Sales bub: "Y'know, these cars already come from the factory tested, so just go crazy"

Mmm-Hmmm...

Now, getting back to our little chat...

You still can't account of the SLOOOOWness on the Honda around the track :P

1mns13
I'll throw in another vote for the 350Z over the S2000. Both are wonderful cars, but only one of them is fun all the time. Torque will do that for you. Especially torque from boost. :D

s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Feb 12 2003, 01:20 PM
Buddy: "How long do I need before I break in the motor"
Sales bub: "Y'know, these cars already come from the factory tested, so just go crazy"

Mmm-Hmmm...

Now, getting back to our little chat...

You still can't account of the SLOOOOWness on the Honda around the track :P


explain why the S2000s feel stronger at 12000kms than at 12kms then? Who are u gonna beleive, a salesman or actual figures that show more hp at later kms? .....btw, the guys at honda told me that drive them like crazy as soon as u get them if u want...its already broken in...hahaha...yeah right, so u can collect on warranty from Honda?

and slowness my ass.....they had a test with the Porsche boxter S, S2000, audi TT, and BMW Z3M roadster.....S2000 came in second with the TT comming last overall.......and at alot of the pts in the race track the S2000 carried more speed through corners and held a tighter line than the rest of those cars :P

I guess it all depends on what mag. u read....

Plus, mine has some extras to make it a bit stiffer and handle better ;) :D hahaha..........oh well, my excuses anyways :P

s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by 1mns13@Feb 12 2003, 06:54 PM
only one of them is fun all the time. Torque will do that for you. Especially torque from boost. :D

....you've never driven a convertible then, i take it? lol

torque from boost? oh yeahhh....a turbo? .....no no....cant afford to put on 15-20 000 bucks in extras....and still pay for gas :P .....that makes it fun ALL the time :P :P

Seks
I'm starting to get bored of reading this 350z vs s2000 arguments -_-

...and I ain't gonna side with anyone here...

GTS Jeff
my comment was never intended to compare the 350z to the s2k. instead, im saying that this roadster is NOT the choice of someone serious about performance. if someone were serious about performance, they would buy a 350z coupe.

lighter, stiffer, and less problems associated with having a heavy open top.

BlueTurboEGG
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Feb 12 2003, 04:35 PM
my comment was never intended to compare the 350z to the s2k. instead, im saying that this roadster is NOT the choice of someone serious about performance. if someone were serious about performance, they would buy a 350z coupe.

lighter, stiffer, and less problems associated with having a heavy open top.


Oh, look who's doing a complete about face :)

Should've said something earlier ducky!

S'kay, Me and Rommel need a good scrap anyways :)

BlueTurboEGG
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR@Feb 12 2003, 12:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 1mns13@Feb 12 2003, 06:54 PM
only one of them is fun all the time. Torque will do that for you. Especially torque from boost. :D

....you've never driven a convertible then, i take it? lol

torque from boost? oh yeahhh....a turbo? .....no no....cant afford to put on 15-20 000 bucks in extras....and still pay for gas :P .....that makes it fun ALL the time :P :P


I look at it this way, you can spend about 15,000 on NA mods for the S2000 and net yourself about 30HP, or 15,000 and get yourself more than double your horsepower.

SlowAzzPorsche911T
WOW that is one beautiful car... one of the nicest lookin roadsters since..... my #1 dream car

s2oooR
quote:
Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Feb 21 2003, 10:04 PM
I look at it this way, you can spend about 15,000 on NA mods for the S2000 and net yourself about 30HP, or 15,000 and get yourself more than double your horsepower.


Ya u can look at it that way but if u wanna compare N/A to F/I...u really cant......btw, u CAN install a supercharger or a turbo in the S2000 now :P

s2oooR
Porsche, u know thats not a roadster right? :P :blink:

redbaron303
That 50''s 300 series mercedes came in a convertable model too.... but either way, I wouldn't mind either convertable or gullwing :D

BlueTurboEGG
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR@Feb 21 2003, 10:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Feb 21 2003, 10:04 PM
I look at it this way, you can spend about 15,000 on NA mods for the S2000 and net yourself about 30HP, or 15,000 and get yourself more than double your horsepower.


Ya u can look at it that way but if u wanna compare N/A to F/I...u really cant......btw, u CAN install a supercharger or a turbo in the S2000 now :P




Yeah, and get what?, a mighty 80hp? whoppee... It probably costs just as much too.

You get the greddy kist and you're getting 417HP to the wheels... Hmmm, that's what about 500 and something at the flywheel?.

Most I can see the S2muchy is adding 100 on stock internals and still work.

SlowAzzPorsche911T
s2000r... what makes a roadster then? I've heard them being referred to as roadsters along with the classic 200sl evolution to the 500sl that mercedes makes as well....

redbaron303
Roadster is another word for convertable.... The gullwing isn't a convertable and isn't a roadster. However there was a convertable model of that gullwing, the300sl from the 50's. A sweet roadster at that...

FingerPuppet
Thats a very nice car, but it's a bit heavy.
Too round for me too.
Handling would be one big aspect in it's performance.

:)

SlowAzzPorsche911T
I just couldn't find a pic of the convertible.. sorry




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