| mike3 |
I know its creepin up on us pretty quick this year, but the times just about here to park the lude(for those who do). Whats everyones plans for over winter?
For me, Im finally getting to my engine swap, with a few basic bolt ons, suspension, and my Cf hood and trunk. And hopefully some new seats when i get my insurance money for my neck...oh yeah, and probably re-painting the damn body kit....
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| nothin.. i got a car thats good for winter so ill drive that till spring and depending on my finances in spring i may start a real project...id like to get somethign turbo and RWD but maybe turbo FWD will do |
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| mike3 |
| Im just swapping in an H22 |
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| 2ndgenlude |
im probably parking it. i want to keep it rust free, plus i plan on lowering it during winter
right now im looking for a cheap winter beater.
if my x-mas bonus comes like its supposed to im looking into a turbo kit (turbonetics or greddy), then bring it down to speedtech in calgary for tuning. |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
I don't have to much to do over winter, the bulk of stuff will happen when the car comes out in the spring.
Winter
- Install speedware harness bar (if I don't sell it first)
- Install takata harnesses (if I decide to keep the harness bar and get it installed)
- polish radiator cooling shroud
- steering wheel, hub, quick release
- mugen license plate bolts
- fix ECU CEL 90
- start removing parts in preparation for my tranny swap. This is to avoid stuff getting damaged while at STRD
- compile all parts need for tranny swap
- manual tranny rebuild, install final drive & quaife lsd (alberta honda)
Spring
- auto->manual tranny swap (install & tune w/ hondata)
* fidanza lightweight flywheel, exedy stage 1 clutch, PSPEC short shifter assembly, manual gauge cluster, P72 ecu, hondata s200, obd1 conversion harness, mugen pedals...
- install brembo slotted cad plated rotors (4 corners)
- install spoon twin block front calipers
- bleed brakes and replace with motul brake fluid
- oil change (synthetic), tranny flush (GM Syncromesh), cooling system flush
Summer (depends on time & money...)
- next gear IM gasket
- euro-r intake manifold
- possibly cams, cam gears, valve train
- oil catch can
- re-tune car |
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| newred |
Me, park car (that will cost over $1000)
Buy House ( that will cost a lot)
Summer
Maybe Hondata & tunned
install new & Muffler
Save for Toyota Supra:fingersx: |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
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Originally posted by newred
Me, part car
Part car or Park car? I'm guessing Park car for the winter as in storage.
Do you still have that header to install? |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Xx D-MAN xX
Part car or Park car? I'm guessing Park car for the winter as in storage.
Do you still have that header to install?
Thanks D-man (fixed)
And yes i do, i paln on getting it done in Edmonton, Not Fort Mc Crack
p.s. i call the place in Legal & it's only $107 mth. Cheaps in up here in $193 mth:mad: |
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| mike3 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im probably parking it. i want to keep it rust free, plus i plan on lowering it during winter
right now im looking for a cheap winter beater.
if my x-mas bonus comes like its supposed to im looking into a turbo kit (turbonetics or greddy), then bring it down to speedtech in calgary for tuning.
You do realize those turbo kits out out of the hundreds range, and into the thousands right? The GReddy one alone retails for over 5K without a BOV. |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
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Originally posted by mike3
The GReddy one alone retails for over 5K without a BOV.
That doesn't include installation and all the other things that go with it like EMS, tuning, guages, etc... |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by mike3
You do realize those turbo kits out out of the hundreds range, and into the thousands right? The GReddy one alone retails for over 5K without a BOV.
just curious, whats actually included in that turbo kit?
i was planning on slapping on a turbo on my accord, so im guessing about $500 for the turbo manifold, maybe $100-$500 for a turbo, $100 for a cheap intercooler(it will do until i want to upgrade it) and maybe a few hundred more in other parts(BOV, piping, exhaust...). i guess my car isnt as tuner friendly as his prelude, but atleast it doesnt cost too much to turbo. hmmm, come to think of it, id be spending atleast a couple grand anyways(unless i get used parts)
and to keep the post on topic... i plan to actually finish my swap on my accord, and hopefully find a good 4th gen prelude during winter. tylers 4k prelude thing was a bit off, cheapest i see is usually 7-10k |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| its not that expensive to go turbo... its expensive to do it properly and maintain it properly however hah if u you junkyard maybe a grand will get you some decent power but your lookin at burning out parts faster then your grandmother farts god save the queen. .. do it right and do it once.. |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
its not that expensive to go turbo... its expensive to do it properly and maintain it properly however hah if u you junkyard maybe a grand will get you some decent power but your lookin at burning out parts faster then your grandmother farts god save the queen. .. do it right and do it once..
pricing out new parts, id be looking at about 1000-2000 or so, but thats for an A20A, an H22 would probably be alot considering how much he has to do |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| yea parts...now include your 2000 for install and tuning... and then 1000 for the other little parts you didnt think youd need and to fix the things you wouldnt think would go wrong after the install etc etc... |
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| mike3 |
| If you don't do work yourself, or are not familiar with turbo's after instal, a good kit, tuning, guages, and some sort of a tuning program like hondata for example, plus tuning and everything else your looking at roughly $10,000. Its not cheap. you could always go the ghetto route though |
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| 2ndgenlude |
i don't think quite 10g's
if you custom build a half ass decent setup and get it tuned properly with hondata maybe 5-8g's. 10g's with a pre-assembled kit. like the ones mentioned
but i will be fully ready to shell out 10g's to get it done properly. its worth it in the end.
i have been researching for awhile.
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| mike3 |
dude, your talking about a fucking GReddy kit. its retails at over $5000. your 10% discount isn't gonna help that much. Then say you decide to run hondata. I'd put $2000 away for that. maybe a BOV? $300 roughly , a gauge? $150 thats close to $7500 and we havn't even talked about an instal or tuning, and all those extras you never plan on at the start
all that and we havn't even talked about internals....its an expensive process. all that money and you can run like 7 lbs of boost if you drive it daily, which if your like me you would. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
i will probably go custom since its cost effective.
i just spent 3g's on a damn tranny swap, and paid cash.
i will have approx 5g's cash by the time i do it (dec-jan)
and just put the rest on credit.
i will only run 7lbs initially and use the following year to build internals if i decide to stay with the project.
i have always wanted turbo, but i know what will happen when i cheap out. its probably worth the extra money for a pre-assembled kit. i will definately go hondata because it will increase reliability and give piece of mind, as well as keep tuning options open.
i havn't really decided yet, because there is a lot of options. i will have to see a bit down the road. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by newaccorddriver
just curious, whats actually included in that turbo kit?
i was planning on slapping on a turbo on my accord, so im guessing about $500 for the turbo manifold, maybe $100-$500 for a turbo, $100 for a cheap intercooler(it will do until i want to upgrade it) and maybe a few hundred more in other parts(BOV, piping, exhaust...). i guess my car isnt as tuner friendly as his prelude, but atleast it doesnt cost too much to turbo. hmmm, come to think of it, id be spending atleast a couple grand anyways(unless i get used parts)
Whatever u planned to pay, expect to pay double it. That is what ends up happening most of the time.
Good luck |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by newred
Whatever u planned to pay, expect to pay double it. That is what ends up happening most of the time.
Good luck
This includes you to Tyler. If u thinks that it only will cost 5g's, have an extra 2g's for back up |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| i was only expecting 2g's for the tranny swap haha, but i knew projects always cost more then you think they will. |
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| redwall177 |
| guys it is tylers car let him do what is wants ok if he wants a turbo let him have one stop telling him OMG IT IS GOING TO COST 10K let him figure that out for himself ok so just let it be and tyler i hope you can do it would be sweet |
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| buh_buh |
here's a tip for turboing your car.
Plan out how much your going to spend, then multiply it by 2, because that's how much your going to end up spending in the end. You probably can't see how that's even possible, but there are so many miscellaneous things your not going to account for or creep up. Pretty much everybody I've known (myself included) has ended up budgeting the same way. Happy boosting :) |
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| Shady_Pro |
| ya me and travis planned to spend around 2-3g's each on our shit this winter...all parts included we ended up around 8 |
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| ludakelv |
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Originally posted by mike3 ...you could always go the ghetto route though [/B]
haha, i saw a dude selling his turbo kit that he used for 5000kms on a different forum. it definitely looked ghetto and i'm pretty sure it performed ghetto too :lol: |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by buh_buh
here's a tip for turboing your car.
Plan out how much your going to spend, then multiply it by 2, because that's how much your going to end up spending in the end. You probably can't see how that's even possible, but there are so many miscellaneous things your not going to account for or creep up. Pretty much everybody I've known (myself included) has ended up budgeting the same way. Happy boosting :)
My Point 2
Some people just don't get that.
Also, i'm not saying want Tyler should do with his car. I don't give 2 fuks what he does. I'm saying that a big project, like turboing a car will cost more than what you expact.... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
i know it will cost more, it always does haha. my tranny swap costed $1000 more then i expected, the clutch in my old lude costed about double what i thought, etc
it always happens. i have been reasearching for awhile now, and i realize its a big job, and its going to cost a shitload. im not going to go ghetto because i want it done right the first time. i respect everyones opinions/ suggestions.
probably won't be done until aprilish. |
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| LudeDude19 |
| me,...park it in the garage, probably sell as is or i might part it out over the course of winter and sell it come summer |
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| whitebb6 |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i just spent 3g's on a damn tranny swap, and paid cash.
What type of swap did you do? Rebuild, LSD? |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| 5spd... regular h22 |
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| whitebb6 |
| 3grand to swap in a regular H22A tranny? Nah that dosen't sound right. Shorter gears maybe? |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by LudeDude19
me,...park it in the garage, probably sell as is or i might part it out over the course of winter and sell it come summer
What kind of drop are ur soring & are u still selling them ???
& is it for a SH or base
PM back it u want.....
Oh P.S. Tyler good luck, i look forward to this summer u kicking mike ASS at Bud park:thumbup: |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by newred
P.S. Tyler good luck, i look forward to this summer u kicking mike ASS at Bud park:thumbup:
i look forward to how much he would actually spend on the turbo project in the end... good thing i have a primitive ECU in my car:thumbup: |
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| mike3 |
| Go fuck yourself Toby. haha. anyways lets get this thread back to where it was...whats are your plans over winter? |
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| buh_buh |
| get all my cars running is my only plan. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by whitebb6
What type of swap did you do? Rebuild, LSD?
basic h22a auto-5spd swap, but i bought brand new axles, clutch kit, master and slave, speed sensor, plus i added a intake.
labour was 1000
parts was around 1000, plus 500ish for other parts i needed.
came to about 2800 total, 2500 without extras like the intake. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by mike3
Go fuck yourself Toby. haha. anyways lets get this thread back to where it was...whats are your plans over winter?
Play nice MIKE
So back on track. Come on Boys & Girls, what are the big plans for the winter.
I know you are all waiting to see what the JDM Prince does to his car, but there must be somethnig that you have plain???? |
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| redwall177 |
| when i have money i will let you guys know but for rite now nothing but parking |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by redwall177
when i have money i will let you guys know but for rite now nothing but parking
i thought your said it was going to be your winter beater:dunno: |
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| underdog 23 |
| no matter how hard i convince myself to go turbo, i still like Toby's set up . so yeah... jrsc for me with stand alone :thumbup: |
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| mike3 |
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Originally posted by newred
Play nice MIKE
So back on track. Come on Boys & Girls, what are the big plans for the winter.
I know you are all waiting to see what the JDM Prince does to his car, but there must be somethnig that you have plain????
Iam playing nice toby....i meant it in a friendly way |
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| preluderca |
Well since my lude died a day after my birthday.....i have decided to go to school to get my next level in my trade...........and then over winter i plan on building and h22 that will be able to take 30+ psi when it is completed
I also have to do some body repairs, courtesy of a deer, and some asshole who decided to beat a mirror off the car on my b day, such nice edmonton ppl........i have gotten some quotes , and priced out my machining , its gonna be pricey, but the luder is gonna move, so in my eyes its worth it......
other than that, i want to change my heater controls to blue, as well as my clock and ignition light, and hopefully get my hands on a Full Mugen Kit, along with Rims, depending on how well work goes over the winter in Fort Mc Crack..... if work doesnt go well , i will probably on have the engine built with out the turbo Kit before summer...... |
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| siopao |
| maybe selling. not too sure yet. |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
quote:
Originally posted by newred
I know you are all waiting to see what the JDM Prince does to his car
It's not a secret, I already posted what I plan to do.
Here is a taste of what's in store. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?...&mode=guest More to come...
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| Praylewd powr |
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Originally posted by preluderca
Well since my lude died a day after my birthday.....i have decided to go to school to get my next level in my trade...........and then over winter i plan on building and h22 that will be able to take 30+ psi when it is completed
I also have to do some body repairs, courtesy of a deer, and some asshole who decided to beat a mirror off the car on my b day, such nice edmonton ppl........i have gotten some quotes , and priced out my machining , its gonna be pricey, but the luder is gonna move, so in my eyes its worth it......
other than that, i want to change my heater controls to blue, as well as my clock and ignition light, and hopefully get my hands on a Full Mugen Kit, along with Rims, depending on how well work goes over the winter in Fort Mc Crack..... if work doesnt go well , i will probably on have the engine built with out the turbo Kit before summer......
I would be interested to see how your build is going to go.....and what turbo you are going to use to be efficient at 30psi on the H22. Also, just a word of advice but make sure you do a ton of research before you get too deep into it. H series engines need a lot of tlc to run boosted, you will need a lot of fuel to support the whp that 30 psi is gonna give you, and your tuning has to be bang on to sustain that amount of power. I run hondata with RC850 injectors and I constantly have to adjust my tune due to temp/humidity changes. Also.........
O-ring your block and be careful of the sleeves you use. Go dartons or bensons. Bensons----send the block to Earl Laskey at Laskey racing in the states.
Dartons----send the block to okanagan engine in kelowna.
I am speaking by experience.
Duane.
H22 turbo civic. |
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| preluderca |
Thanks for your info and the interest, i decided to go with Racemasters In St . Albert, they built idtravs Engine, and after talkin with them i got alot of info about what i had planned and the work that will be needed, he told me with boost Levels that high he would recommend Machining the block and puting brass pieces, apparently thats whats done with racing engines and such, and i would be going with a full comp port and polish
as for the research and what not, i have done my fair share, about frequent problems , questions, and what have you , as for getting the recomended parts, i have been able to track down and aquire everything but a Crank for the H22, im still deciding on what i want for a tranny , not too sure, if at all possible i wouldnt mind having a 6 speed out of an rsx
How ever i would imagine that fitiment issues are there between the k20 block and my h22, the other idea i had was building up a k20a but i dont have one of them sittin around , unlike the h22 that blew up 4 weeks to early.....so its still just a plan for right now...
and as for the turbo, im not sure how i want to attack that, either get a Greddy Kit, or piece the turbo together, with a custom manifold hks turbo and so on, its still like i said earlier in the developmental stages of a plan, but thats what i would like to do over winter... |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| i plan on buying all my internal parts (cam, cam gears, valves, valve springs) and get te crower stroker kit (2.26L) displacemnt and then get it tuned and installed probably at speedtech in calgary. I've head nothing but great things from them. I basically plan on breaking my engine and tehn run about 18 pounds in the civ. Should be interesting, expensive yup but it's soo worth it. Also im think im going to go with a hondata this week or next and then buy bigger fuel injectors, fuel rail, fuel pump and get some slotted and crossed drilled brakes with painted caliper to support the hors:thumbup: |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| shit my bad didn't realize i entered in the prelude clu my bad |
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| mike3 |
| Are you that guy that your parents bought you the civic all done already, and you try racing everyone in sherwood park? |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| ya im the guy in sherwood park but i dont go around racing everyone :confused: |
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| Praylewd powr |
I am not in the epc either but I am hoping that no one minds my posting here. Just let me know if it's an issue.
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by Praylewd powr
I am not in the epc either but I am hoping that no one minds my posting here. Just let me know if it's an issue.
d
i post here all the time, they never told me to go away(yet...) |
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| Praylewd powr |
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Originally posted by Turbo_Civic92
i plan on buying all my internal parts (cam, cam gears, valves, valve springs) and get te crower stroker kit (2.26L) displacemnt and then get it tuned and installed probably at speedtech in calgary. I've head nothing but great things from them. I basically plan on breaking my engine and tehn run about 18 pounds in the civ. Should be interesting, expensive yup but it's soo worth it. Also im think im going to go with a hondata this week or next and then buy bigger fuel injectors, fuel rail, fuel pump and get some slotted and crossed drilled brakes with painted caliper to support the hors:thumbup:
Don't forget about your rod ratio when boost/higher rpm is involved.
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| mike3 |
| We don't mind if you guys post here. |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by mike3
We don't mind if you guys post here.
in that case... does finding a prelude count as a thing to do for winter? |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| wannabes are wallabess my friend |
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| luder |
Plans for the prelude = Winter tires.
As for the 240sx, the only plans are entirely aesthetic. Shes getting a full repaint to nissan super black, and possibly a knock off vertex aero jacket kit. Come spring, when I actually have a job and some cash, 5 lug swap parts will be bought, then saving for 5 lug wheels. Have my heart set on some gram lights with a significant dish, well enough dish to run 245's stretched......
After that, tein coilovers and suspension techniques sway bars.
Maybe downpipe, catback and fmic, but she already has enough power for now. |
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