| Focus Guy |
HONDA JDM SWAP PRICES INSTALLED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT AS SUPPLY VERSES DEMAND PRICES CAN CHANGE BY APROX $200.00 IN EITHER DIRECTION. SOME COST CHANGES ARE NORMAL THROUGHOUT THE INSTALLATION THAT MAY NOT ORIGINALLY QUOTED. SHIPPING COSTS AND TAXES NOT INCLUDED. FOR MORE INFO CALL STEVE AT 476-7691
1. B16 FIRST GENERATION (OBD0)---SWAPPED INTO 88-91 CIVIC OR CRX TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE. (INSTALLED) $5150.00 (MOUNTS INCLUDED)……………….160 HP
2. ZC --- SWAPPED INTO 88-91 CIVIC OR CRX TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE. CX or DX (INSTALLED) $ 2200.00-- Si $ 1900.00…130 HP
3. B16 SECOND GEN (OBD1) --- SWAPPED INTO 92-95 CIVIC (ALL MODELS) $5500.00…………..170 HP
4. H22, 2.2L VETC (OBD1) SWAPPED INTO 92-99 CIVIC (ALL MODELS) TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE $7800.00…………200 HP
5. K20A (OBD2) ---SWAPPED INTO 2002 CIVIC SiR. COMPLETE PACKAGE PRICE $11,000.00…………220 HP
6. B18B (OBD1) SWAPPED INTO 92-95 CIVIC TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE (INSTALLED) $3900.00………………….150 HP
ALL INSTALLS ARE SUBJECT TO A 50% DEPOSIT OF TOTAL COST BEFORE WORK IS STARTED. AVERAGE JOB TAKES 1-2 DAYS TO COMPLETE. SOME CAN TAKE 1-2 DAYS MORE. EXAMPLES MOST ZC SWAPS CAN BE DONE SAME DAY AND B16 SWAPS TWO DAYS. |
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| crxcel |
| Does the 88-91 B16 swap include an LSD for that much cash |
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| crxcel |
| Does the 88-91 B16 swap include a LSD for that much cash? |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by crxcel@Feb 12 2003, 07:54 PM
Does the 88-91 B16 swap include a LSD for that much cash?
NO |
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| Focus Guy |
| To go further into detail, when the engine is about to be installed you don't have to throw away the usless axels, wiring harness, shift linkage that most engines come with.If parts are missing or not sent its not your problem. The prices include new axels, wiring harness' (were needed) all fluids changed and new shift linkage. If your car needs mounts that is already worked into the price. The prices are job done. |
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| uncle ben |
K20A (OBD2) ---SWAPPED INTO 2002 CIVIC SiR. COMPLETE PACKAGE PRICE $11,000.00…………220 HP
Does that price include the 6 spd tranny? Also is that the engine from the RSX-type-s or is it from a type R? thanks |
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| dogstar |
damn, those are some nice prices, very nice for a complete swap done and out the door.
starting to wish i liked hondas and could stomach driving a FWD hotrod. |
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| Nightstalker |
| Pesonally.. Silent rage is offering a better deal IMO.. he is giving the alberta civics guys great prices on the hardwear.. and then all you have to do is take the stuff over to steve on 75th there and it would still be cheaper... |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by uncle ben@Feb 12 2003, 10:35 PM
K20A (OBD2) ---SWAPPED INTO 2002 CIVIC SiR. COMPLETE PACKAGE PRICE $11,000.00…………220 HP
Does that price include the 6 spd tranny? Also is that the engine from the RSX-type-s or is it from a type R? thanks
It does include the 6 speed trans I belive it would be from the rsx type s but i will check and let you know. |
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| Focus Guy |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker@Feb 13 2003, 03:24 AM
Pesonally.. Silent rage is offering a better deal IMO.. he is giving the alberta civics guys great prices on the hardwear.. and then all you have to do is take the stuff over to steve on 75th there and it would still be cheaper...
How much in canadain dollors is it going to cost you (alberta civics) after you buy new axels, shiftlinkage, and get it installed and wired? And for what types of engines? |
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| mrprecidia |
| it would have to be the type R I thing as the type S has 200HP :dunno: |
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| drastik |
| The new axels are made by whom in your swap packages? |
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| prophet_ca |
midas does all this stuff.. wow.. i never knew
Im not a civic liker, but im guessing it comes with warrenties? |
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| chowder |
quote:
Originally posted by uncle ben@Feb 12 2003, 10:35 PM
K20A (OBD2) ---SWAPPED INTO 2002 CIVIC SiR. COMPLETE PACKAGE PRICE $11,000.00…………220 HP
Does that price include the 6 spd tranny? Also is that the engine from the RSX-type-s or is it from a type R? thanks
K20A - Type-R Integra 220hp and 151lbs/ft
K20A2 - Type-S RSX 200hp and 142lbs/ft
K20A3 - 160 HP and 141lbs/ft or 131lbs/ft on the SiR
On a side note. The K20A2 AND K20A tranny's are completely different animals. Sure they are both 6 speeds but they are totally different. Thats what I have read. Still looking for a cheap K20A, tranny, and ECU for my DC5. |
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| drastik |
| another question ... does the prices include a new set of mounts? Or does it reuse old ones? |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by drastik@Feb 13 2003, 08:15 AM
The new axels are made by whom in your swap packages?
Whom ever I feel like buying from that day. |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by drastik@Feb 13 2003, 07:49 PM
another question ... does the prices include a new set of mounts? Or does it reuse old ones?
I will supply billit alu mount where needed from hasport, if not needed Ya you get your "old ones" if there not F#$%ED. |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by chowder@Feb 13 2003, 07:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by uncle ben@Feb 12 2003, 10:35 PM
K20A (OBD2) ---SWAPPED INTO 2002 CIVIC SiR. COMPLETE PACKAGE PRICE $11,000.00…………220 HP
Does that price include the 6 spd tranny? Also is that the engine from the RSX-type-s or is it from a type R? thanks
K20A - Type-R Integra 220hp and 151lbs/ft
K20A2 - Type-S RSX 200hp and 142lbs/ft
K20A3 - 160 HP and 141lbs/ft or 131lbs/ft on the SiR
On a side note. The K20A2 AND K20A tranny's are completely different animals. Sure they are both 6 speeds but they are totally different. Thats what I have read. Still looking for a cheap K20A, tranny, and ECU for my DC5.
As I think it is a type r power train, if it wasn't after all it would be a cheeper cost. And who in the world would waste there cash on a usless K20A3 for a joke 160hp? |
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| WRXguy |
quote:
Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Feb 12 2003, 06:39 PM
1. B16 FIRST GENERATION (OBD0)---SWAPPED INTO 88-91 CIVIC OR CRX TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE. (INSTALLED) $5150.00 (MOUNTS INCLUDED)……………….160 HP
:wtf:
Typo? |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by WRXguy@Feb 15 2003, 11:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Feb 12 2003, 06:39 PM
1. B16 FIRST GENERATION (OBD0)---SWAPPED INTO 88-91 CIVIC OR CRX TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE. (INSTALLED) $5150.00 (MOUNTS INCLUDED)……………….160 HP
:wtf:
Typo?
no kiddin, 5g's for a b16 swap??
Are you nutz?? better give me a b18c for that. |
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| scooby_dooby |
| and I've never heard of a b18b that had 150hp... |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Feb 24 2003, 04:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WRXguy@Feb 15 2003, 11:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Feb 12 2003, 06:39 PM
1. B16 FIRST GENERATION (OBD0)---SWAPPED INTO 88-91 CIVIC OR CRX TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE. (INSTALLED) $5150.00 (MOUNTS INCLUDED)……………….160 HP
:wtf:
Typo?
no kiddin, 5g's for a b16 swap??
Are you nutz?? better give me a b18c for that.
definetly not nuts, how much have you paid for this swap and if at that price you should get a b18c can you show me to the discount engine store so I can go buy mine there. |
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| scooby_dooby |
well silentrage has b16 swaps for about $2000, and gsr swaps's for $4500.
or you could goto hmotorsonline and get a complete b16 swap for $1800 + $300 shipping + $270 duty and tax, that's $2370 shipped. |
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| redbaron303 |
| His prices include install though, the others do not... |
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| darkman |
well silentrage has b16 swaps for about $2000, and gsr swaps's for $4500.
or you could goto hmotorsonline and get a complete b16 swap for $1800 + $300 shipping + $270 duty and tax, that's $2370 shipped.
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I would love to just see how good the condition of the motor would be. Chances are that there will most likely be faulty pieces or its simply gonna be a piece of crap. It may be clean on the outside but shit in the inside according to the overhaul specs. I've had my fair share of the bad luck stuff so I would just suggest people out there to choose wisely before purchasing ESPECIALLY when it comes to ordering from another place. Simply cause you can't inspect it yourself. It costed me about 6 g's anyways after when I was done with my motor AND tranny. But I'm very picky with my work so it may vary depending on how serious some of you are. Take extra caution! |
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| Kato |
Midas Guy is offering COMPLETE engine swaps, as in everything is included put into your car. You drive your Civic or whatever in and a day or two later you drive out with a car that's just had a heart transplant. I'm planning on doing the swap myself and right now my projected cost is around $4000.00. So for $5150.00, the b16a1 into an 88-91 Civic/CRX is not bad at all.
Please read a little more carefully next time. :angry:
Silentrage's engines come with a warrenty for 1 year on the block and 90 days on the accessories. Leakdown tested before shipping and after. |
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| scooby_dooby |
actually hmotorsonline is a fairly reputable company, I know many people who've ordered engine's from them and have been completely satisfied. His engine's average 30,000 miles, I agree that I'd arather see the engine myself but I'm not going to pay out the ass to do it.
besides, why would you think that Midas would have better engine's than anyone else, from my dealings with Midas looking out for their customers is not something they do veryy often. Just cause it's more expensive, doesnt automatically mean it's better.
I always realized that the labour isn't included, I was pointing out that you can get a complete swap for $2370 shipped. That leaves about $2300 in labour, if you subtract 500 for the mounts. 2300 in labour is BS, IMO.
I just think it's lame, people come here acting like they want to help us out, but then they just try and gouge everyone, there's just no love on this board. |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Feb 25 2003, 12:02 PM
but I'm not going to pay out the ass to do it.
Midas looking out for their customers is not something they do veryy often. Just cause it's more expensive, doesnt automatically mean it's better.
I always realized that the labour isn't included, I was pointing out that you can get a complete swap for $2370 shipped. That leaves about $2300 in labour, if you subtract 500 for the mounts. 2300 in labour is BS, IMO.
1) dont pay out the ass go elsewere, These prices were posted for many of our Midas customers who are a large majority on these forums. But you don't ever have to come buy and see what quality work is thats fine go find the best price.
2) If we dont look out for our customers we don't have jobs the corperate offices get compliant from problem customer ( whomever is right, them or us) and if they feel we are "looking out " for our customers than we can be shut down. Just like that.
3) last time I checked when you buy a Ford Focus for $19,500.00 and a Toyota Supra for $45,000.00 (used) I would think that more expensive is better, and I don't think I have customers that come to see us on the basis of how cheep we are.
4) If you want cheep mounts we can not use the polished billet mounts.
I got no more to say on this topic. If you like us shop with us please, if not go where you feel comfortable. ----- On sat we had a v8less members van at our shop they went to the dealer for the repair estimte first .
the dealer ---------- $750.00 intake manifold R&R for vacum leaks
Midas------------------$50.00 -- small rubber hose to fix leak
BUT MAYBE WE JUST GOT LUCKY--- BUT WHAT DO I KNOW. |
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| darkman |
I just think it's lame, people come here acting like they want to help us out, but then they just try and gouge everyone, there's just no love on this board.
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I'd rather not see someone heart broken after spending money in the triple digits zone. But these are for my reasons that I've stated...I just thought I'd be on the safe side or at least expect the worst. |
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| silentrage |
| Admin Please delete my post. thanks!! :) |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Feb 25 2003, 06:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Feb 25 2003, 12:02 PM
but I'm not going to pay out the ass to do it.
Midas looking out for their customers is not something they do veryy often. Just cause it's more expensive, doesnt automatically mean it's better.
I always realized that the labour isn't included, I was pointing out that you can get a complete swap for $2370 shipped._ That leaves about $2300 in labour, if you subtract 500 for the mounts. 2300 in labour is BS, IMO.
1) dont pay out the ass go elsewere, These prices were posted for many of our Midas customers who are a large majority on these forums. But you don't ever have to come buy and see what quality work is thats fine go find the best price.
2) If we dont look out for our customers we don't have jobs the corperate offices get compliant from problem customer ( whomever is right, them or us) and if they feel we are "looking out " for our customers than we can be shut down. Just like that.
3) last time I checked when you buy a Ford Focus for $19,500.00 and a Toyota Supra for $45,000.00 (used) I would think that more expensive is better, and I don't think I have customers that come to see us on the basis of how cheep we are.
4) If you want cheep mounts we can not use the polished billet mounts.
I got no more to say on this topic. If you like us shop with us please, if not go where you feel comfortable. ----- On sat we had a v8less members van at our shop they went to the dealer for the repair estimte first .
the dealer ---------- $750.00 intake manifold R&R for vacum leaks
Midas------------------$50.00 -- small rubber hose to fix leak
BUT MAYBE WE JUST GOT LUCKY--- BUT WHAT DO I KNOW.
Well obviously if you buy a Supra for $50,000 or a Focus for $20,000 the supra's better. Does it have anything to do with the price? No, the price is due to the fact that it's a better car, it's not a better car due to the price.
A more fitting example would be a Focus for $20,000 or a Focus for $30,000, which is better? I dunno, but just because one's higher prices, doesn't mean it's better. Maybe one guy is just trying to rip you off, and the other guy sells mad focus's so he give much more reasonable prices. Hmm?
HMotors includes OEM motor mounts for $350 US, since my mounts are fine I just subtracted that from the equation that's what I was referring too, not sure what you were talking about.
My experience with Midas in 1 hour:
I called in asked how much it would be to get a my CV Boot changed, they said $130. So I go in there, buddy starts telling me I should just get a new Axle, I say
"Ok how much would that run me?" he says "I'll go ask, be right back" at this point went and talked to his boss.
He comes back and says "Ya, just to get the boot changed it's gonna be $200, a whole new axle is only $250, you should definately just get a new axle"
"I said, ya actually I called in about an hour ago and you guys told me it'd be 130 w/ gst for the boot." He looked so busted, like WTF I come in there to get some work done on my car and you guys try a screw me outta $70??? That's not looking out for your customer.
So I'm chuckling over what a bunch of goofs these guys are, trying to scam me, and falling flat on their face. While I overhear a conversation on the phone. Midas Guy is talking to someone, telling them it's gonna be $550 for an alternator change because it's a mitsu alt. Now do you think he told the poor guy that he cold get a good $50-60 core charge for his old alternator?? Nope, he scammed him outta his core charge.
Now that's just my experiance in a 50 minute time period, but it was enough for me to know I will never goto Midas again.
All that said, I'll stop bustin your balls. Thread's yours again... |
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| Focus Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Feb 26 2003, 05:17 PM
So I'm chuckling over what a bunch of goofs these guys are, trying to scam me, and falling flat on their face. While I overhear a conversation on the phone. Midas Guy is talking to someone, telling them it's gonna be $550 for an alternator change because it's a mitsu alt. Now do you think he told the poor guy that he cold get a good $50-60 core charge for his old alternator?? Nope, he scammed him outta his core charge.
I see you have no clue how core charges work, when a core charge is billed no you do not get that. Cores are only on re-built parts not new, for example if we buy alterantor (re-built) we pay 450.00 for the alternator and 75.00 for a core. Our total cost is 525.00, So we turn around and sell it for for 550.00 and you DO NOT PAY THE CORE. The reason for core charges is to safe gaurd the market and incurage people to return there old parts, core charges are paid anywere you buy a re-built part. New parts do not apply to this.
So he never got scammed I did him a favor and paid the core for him.???
I couldn't give any info on your "50 min" experiance but I don't know of one person yet that has paid 200.00 for a boot change. 250.00 for a axel sounds right but then agian I don't know of any Midas Managers that have to talk to the boss for a price being that they are the only ones that do pricing. Oh ya just to clear it up what midas was this at:???? |
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| scooby_dooby |
what I know about core charges is this:
I can goto canadian tire and buy myself an Alternator for $280, now after I install my new alternator I can take my old broken one back to Canadian Tire and they'll give me $70 just for the core.
That's the "core charge" I'm referring too, and the Mida Guy never even mentioned the fact that the guy could get some money for his old Alternator.
And it was the mechanic who went to talk to the manager, and it was the manager who must've told him to try and screw me outta $70. I've never heard of $200 for a CV boot, $130-150 is the average, that's why I was so pissed off, they tried to treat me like I'm some sort of idiot. I know it was their way of trying to make me get a whole new axle, but still that's BS man.
It was the Midas around 97st and 111ave, |
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| scooby_dooby |
| and for the record I didn't pay the $200, I paid $135 gst included, |
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| redbaron303 |
| Hmm. You don't seem happy. I know the cv boots on my moms car were like $200.00 or pretty damn close... it's a 94 Mx6 v6... silly expensive to fix imports :D |
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| scooby_dooby |
well it was a while ago, I'm not happy I'm not mad, even at the time I was more amused than pissed off, just the way I busted him, and of course they eneded up doing it for the original quoted price.
But this is just going to why I don't feel like Midas cares much about the Customer, I'm not saying they don't do good work, but they definately seem like they're all to anxious to rip off the unsespecting consumer.
I mean I take my car to AutoTec, honda specialists and they really look out for you, they're always telling me way I can keep the price down. Perfect example would be my friend who's tranny blew, he had to get his car towed in so he towed it to AutoTec. Now they could've taken advantage of his situation, I mean he's not gonna pay $70 to get it towed somewhere else right?
But they didn't they found him a smokin' deal on a used Acura tranny($600), got him a non-OEM clutch for ($300) and install was about 300, the entire thing worked out to $1270, new-used tranny, clutch, axle seals for free, and a very good price on the labour.
The acutally found a Tranny for $750, after he had already agreed to pay that price, the next day they found another for $600, now they didn;t have to tell him but they did, they called him up and lowered the estimate by $150.
Basically even though they had him at their mercy, they gave him a VERY good deal, and took care of him. I know that if it was brought in to a place like Midas their eyes would lite up with dollar signs and they would take advatage of the situation. |
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| 83b18b1slow |
Hi there,
just curious about the transmission story you said.
Was this awhile ago? Or recently?
I mean the cost for those items n' all? |
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| scooby_dooby |
| about 1 month ago my man...but remember it would've been $400 more if he'd gotten an OEM clutch, and you would be hard pressed to find a Tranny locally for $600, AutoTec's awesome, they'll do the best they can for you. |
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| scooby_dooby |
sorry I was a little off with my pricing, I talked to my friend and he set it straight.
it was $1270 without a new clutch but with a $750 tranny, that was the original quote.
After taking off the tranny they recommended a new clutch, he was running a factory clutch with almost 190,000km on it. So they found him a better deal on the Tranny($600) and gave him a clutch for $300. The total with a new clutch worked out to $1450.
Still a very good deal. |
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| 83b18b1slow |
This was for a DA integra like yourself?
So $1450 to complete the whole job? Labour in? |
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| robee18a |
quote:
Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Feb 26 2003, 01:15 AM
I got no more to say on this topic. If you like us shop with us please, if not go where you feel comfortable. ----- On sat we had a v8less members van at our shop they went to the dealer for the repair estimte first .
the dealer ---------- $750.00 intake manifold R&R for vacum leaks
Midas------------------$50.00 -- small rubber hose to fix leak
BUT MAYBE WE JUST GOT LUCKY--- BUT WHAT DO I KNOW.
Does the owner of that van realize you have publicity rights to it!? :o :D :D
Just kidding around. :) |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by 83b18b1slow@Feb 28 2003, 12:58 PM
This was for a DA integra like yourself?
So $1450 to complete the whole job? Labour in?
Yep here it is all busted Down:
Labour:
Replace Tranny: 379.50
Replace Axle Seals: 34.50
Parts:
Used Tranny 600
Axle Seals: 27.21
Clutch Kit: $325
Tranny Fluid(5w30 Motor Oil): $7.50
GST: $96.16
Complete price: 1469.87
And ya it's for an Integra 5speed. But it's not a DA, it's a DB(sedan!), buddy has almost the exact same car as me. |
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| FingerPuppet |
| Sup, do you have a website and location for that AutoTec? |
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| scooby_dooby |
no website, Wilson's AutoTech, they have 2 locations you can look em up inm the phonebook.
I always goto the southside, 7232 76Ave, 466-1160. Ask for Chris, he's the shop foreman and always takes care of me.
p.s. They are Honda & Toyota specialists, they all used to work at the dealers kind of thing |
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| drastik |
hmmm ... no website eh?
lemme know if they're interested in one.
I'm always game to give a good price for automotive places :) |
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| DelSol |
| pricy much i know lots of places that will do all thoes for 5000 dollars except k20a like e-z motorsports lol |
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| mr_sars |
| This thread was first made in Feb 2003... |
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| elrhyso |
| LMAO... 5 year old threads ftw... someone fails at the intraweb... |
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| DelSol |
| i never look at dates lol i should get on that hahaha |
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| ibcinya |
| Trust the midas TOUCH! :bowdown: |
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