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| seevik |
i think i wanna do an engine swap on my car, , on jdm source website i found a b16a g2 engine and comes wit
Engine
Transmission
ECU
Alternator
Air Conditioning
Power Steering Pump
Distributor
Intake and Exhaust manifolds
Down Pipe
Alternator
Starter
wondering if that is all u need for a full engine swap and sumone that did a swap who took it to a shop who would u recomend to do it for me and how much would it cost for a swap |
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| dc2696 |
| zippys or try midtown, call em:) |
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| shorti |
find a b18 from an integra, then turbo it.
probably cost as much as the jdm 16 you're looking at
edit: and make 100 more horsepower |
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| dc2696 |
| find an h22 then turbo it ah-ha:thumbup: |
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| seevik |
| i got sum video of my civic wit a h22, wit just he engine no other mods, its in 14 seconds, i wish i had the money to swap taht shit in, but i hear it wont fit u gotta cut out sum metal, lots of money, but shorti, the engine i found is made for my civic, no need for extra mountings and wat not it fits perfectly i think, so how much would a b18 wit all that shit cost me |
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| Wookey |
Just to add to your list, you're also gonna need, shift linkage and axels.
And swaps are easy, just do it yourself.:thumbup: I've done 4 swaps this year for other people |
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| seevik |
| k fuck i watched the damn of the h22 civic again and also heard that there is a mount for it for my civic, no cuttin the metal needed to fit it in, anyone know this for sure? and id lvoe to learn to do it my self but i couldnt for the first time id need lots of help so yea now iactually wanna search all i need for h22 engine, any info does help |
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| Nightstalker |
| H22 = the suck. B18 is where its at IMO. B18c if you can afford it, if not then b18a/b turbo. |
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| seevik |
| thanks 98camry tahts excactly wat i was lookin for, and why do they suck nitestalker, and no i cant afford the b18's, i was thinkin if i put the h22 by this summer id have 200 hp, i dun need anymore now, but if u wanna share ur opinion why it sucks im listenin |
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| Nightstalker |
You should be able to pick up a b18a/b for around $1500 man. The issues with the H22 is the added wieght. And not only how much more it is but where in the engine bay it is. The H22 mounts farther forward which upsets the balance of the car. Its find it your only looking to do strip and street racing, but if you wana go fast in the corners you would be better off with a B-series.
As a example of cost vs. speed.
Lococoin's EF hatch which is a B18a with a block guard, and turbo ran a mid - low 13 second pass at bud park. Preludepower's hatch was slower even though his car has a built turbo H22 in it. The Zippy's drag car is also a b18a/b running 18psi. It ran in the 11s. For far cheaper then you could ever do with a H22 IMO. |
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| Jord@n |
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Originally posted by Wookey
Just to add to your list, you're also gonna need, shift linkage and axels.
And swaps are easy, just do it yourself.:thumbup: I've done 4 swaps this year for other people
I didn't find my engine swap the least bit easy. I ran into many problems along the way and my car still has problems which are causing a lot of frustration at the moment. Just a forewarning if you are planning to do it yourself. I swapped my engine in the summer and transmission. It was my first swap though so maybe that is why :dunno: . Personally I would never do it again.:dunno: If you do it be aware of the amount of work you will have to do and the time it will take. Not to mention have a backup ride while you are doing it. |
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| Wookey |
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Originally posted by Jord@n
I didn't find my engine swap the least bit easy. I ran into many problems along the way and my car still has problems which are causing a lot of frustration at the moment. Just a forewarning if you are planning to do it yourself. I swapped my engine in the summer and transmission. It was my first swap though so maybe that is why :dunno: . Personally I would never do it again.:dunno: If you do it be aware of the amount of work you will have to do and the time it will take. Not to mention have a backup ride while you are doing it.
What motor into what car? And what are you having troubles with? |
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| Jord@n |
I swapped a 2.2L sunfire engine. My engine in my car died so I bought a 96 sunfire and swapped that engine.
Specific problems? Nothing at the moment to really do with engine swap besides my cruise control not working. I was just venting because my thermostat was stuck and I snapped a bolt putting a new one in. So now I can't drive my car tommorow cause the bolt snapped right off!:mad: And my signal isn't working on one side, sorta to do with swap...
Problems I HAD: Different trannys (Found out after!) had to swap axles too. Fucked up the wiring had to pay someone to do that. (Note signal light problem above). Brakes were acting weird but somehow that fixed itself.:dunno: . Lot's and Lot's of random shit that just doesn't go right and takes a lot more time then it should that is the main annoyance. I can't count the number of little things that went wrong and made it take just that much longer, you always run into little problems with any engine swap.
I'm not trying to discourage him from doing it, I just want him to be aware of the work and time involved in doing it yourself. I wish I'd just sold the sunfire and bought a new car... But when I'm done school I will sell it, hopefully she makes it 1 more semester.
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| seevik |
| that info deff helps, and i wouldnt even wanna try to do a swap by my self only wit sumone that already done it or just give it up to a mech but thast sooo much money so id rather get help from sumone who already did it(wookey:p ) lol if hes available and wants to help, but yea i only know of engines on jdm source, and for b18s they only got b18c's which is too much money for me, so where could i get a/b for 1500$? |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
You should be able to pick up a b18a/b for around $1500 man. The issues with the H22 is the added wieght. And not only how much more it is but where in the engine bay it is. The H22 mounts farther forward which upsets the balance of the car. Its find it your only looking to do strip and street racing, but if you wana go fast in the corners you would be better off with a B-series.
As a example of cost vs. speed.
Lococoin's EF hatch which is a B18a with a block guard, and turbo ran a mid - low 13 second pass at bud park. Preludepower's hatch was slower even though his car has a built turbo H22 in it. The Zippy's drag car is also a b18a/b running 18psi. It ran in the 11s. For far cheaper then you could ever do with a H22 IMO.
Both the B18 and H22 will work good if you have the money to properly build them. I think both swaps are great, but here is some food for thought...
He said that he wants to do a swap on a budget...so here is what I would do if it was my car;
Buy a SOHC VTEC Motor and completely build it for a Turbo.
You can build a pretty fast SOHC Turbo for a pretty decent price. Usually at least $1,000-$1,500 cheaper than if you did the same with a B-Series motor. Another great thing about the D-series motors is, everything is so damn cheap for them. Price a new oil pump for a D16 and then a B16...BIG difference in price. Generally it is the same for all the engine components.
As for the guy who ran a mid-low 13 second pass with his B18 Turbo, those are good numbers, but my friends Turbo SOHC ZC VTEC Civic ran a 12.7 on 91 octane, without a good tune.
A lot of people do not know the potential of the little D-Series motor. Its great for the budget builder that is more concerned about the HP:Price ratio, than the bling factor. Sure DOHC VTEC Motors look nice, but its going to cost you and you can have just as fast a car with a Turbo SOHC. I am more about function over form, so if you are on a budget its something to think about.
Remeber, I am not bashing the B-series at all...if you can afford to do the swap AND Turbo it, then thats the way to go. But for the Price of the intital B-series swap, you could do a SOHC Turbo set up that will almost always beat a Stock N/A B-series swap.
Here is a pic of my friends SOHC ZC VTEC Civic....312 WHP@ 15psi and the 1/4 mile in 12.7
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| seevik |
| well rite now im lookin for a motor for cheap, and wit a lil modifications by the summer i want to be in 14's 1/4 mile, witout turbo and as cheap as possible, then wit turbo if i decide puttin it in i want 13's but i didn no shit bout the dseries so where can i look for that motor |
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| EK9Hatch |
If you want to find out more about the D-series motor, I would suggest www.d-series.org
They are a great bunch of guys over there, all running D-series set ups...some N/A some Turbo. They know a lot about these motors and will gladly help you with any questions you have.
Couple guys on that site are running over 500 WHP on these little SOHC Motors! :)
You can PM me anytime you want as well, I have done numerous D-series swaps and build ups.
Hope this helps you out! |
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| EK9Hatch |
Sorry for the double post...
Here is a little more info, and some food for thought...
You can buy a JDM D15B Motor for $370 USD or for around $500-$600 USD With 5 speed Tranny. This motor has 130 HP Stock (thats only 30 HP less than a first gen B16A!) These motors are great and super cheap!
Here is one I found on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-...
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| seevik |
| i wouldnt really wanna order a motor from ebay tho, but yea im interested in knowin more bout these engines and ur friends car too |
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| EK9Hatch |
If ebay turns you off you can try one on Canada's JDM Engine Suppliers. I dealt with Osaka Motors and they gave me a good price on JDM D-series motors.
You can get a 130HP JDM D15B VTEC Motor (usually with around 30-40k for mileage) and 5 Speed tranny for about $800-$900 CDN! Try finding a complete B-Series swap for that price :P
Anyways, if you want to find out more about these motors, check out www.d-series.org or send me a PM...I'll be glad to help you out. :) |
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| Ontheverge |
Be careful about getting Wookey to help... that temper of his hahahahaha.
How is the little civic going wookey? Everything worked out with it all.... and why did you change your cell number man? How am I supposed to call you and brag about the weather out here? Give me a call if you want, the area code changed to 604 but the number stayed the same!! |
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