| HeavyEarly87T |
So basically the world will become divided into 2 opposing organizations. On the “West” side we have the US and all who wish to play with them (NATO?). Or the “East” side with China and all who wish play with them (SCO).
Now when one of the giants decides to take action against someone (US/Iraqi) all the other member countries have the “choice” to help out as allies without the fear of consequences (mad cow/ soft wood). And they will probably be acting against a connected member of the other side (China/Iran). Which will not go unnoticed.
Two of the world’s biggest powers will have control over the two governing bodies for the planet or more realistically the resources they have. The United States on one side and China on the other. Sort of another cold war to boost the funding & the taxes like before. Humm I have my guess as to how this is going to end. Have a good day comrade. |
|
|
| snugs |
| lol, i thought this thread was going to be about treasongate. :p |
|
|
| Wask |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=1249769
Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Iran...all, Nuclear Powers with formidable armies...
Interesting...
USA, UK, France, Isreal.... all nuclear powers with better armies. Do you India and China, Pakistan like each other now? Something change overnight? Also Iran is pushing thier luck...Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction Peace loving nation right:rolleyes: And since when did they have nukes? I thought it was a peaceful program for the use of nuclear energy? Do you know something we don't?
Would make a nice axis team for WW3 though, a broke second world country, a country that relies heavily on American trade and couldn't even take Taiwan, and a country with 100 000 American troops on its door step and a much more powerful country not to far away waiting for an excuse to "Wipe it off the face of the earth". How many more years till we are all killing each other?
You are right though, it is very interesting. And ofcourse it doesn't mean much, or that any aggresion will come of it. |
|
|
| JustinL |
Ahhh good old christian science monitor.
quote:
a regional security bloc and could soon induct new members such as India, Pakistan, and Iran
Interesting choice of teammates... if they can keep India and Pakistan from nuking eachother. |
|
|
| v8killah |
its funny how the iranian president calls for the total destruction of israel and you barely hear about it.
but if the us says that its all we hear about for a year. |
|
|
| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
its funny how the iranian president calls for the total destruction of israel and you barely hear about it.
but if the us says that its all we hear about for a year.
lol, Bush calls for the total destruction of israel? :lol: |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by snugs
lol, Bush calls for the total destruction of israel? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Bush would call for the destruction of the United States before he would even THINK about calling for the destruction of Israel.
As Ariel Sharon once said:
At this point, a furious Ariel Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
its funny how the iranian president calls for the total destruction of israel and you barely hear about it.
but if the us says that its all we hear about for a year.
Strange, it made headlines on every newspaper in BOLD on the front page and every news channel I turned to had it as headline news...
:dunno: |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Wask
USA, UK, France, Isreal.... all nuclear powers with better armies. Do you India and China, Pakistan like each other now? Something change overnight? Also Iran is pushing thier luck...Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction Peace loving nation right:rolleyes: And since when did they have nukes? I thought it was a peaceful program for the use of nuclear energy? Do you know something we don't?
Would make a nice axis team for WW3 though, a broke second world country, a country that relies heavily on American trade and couldn't even take Taiwan, and a country with 100 000 American troops on its door step and a much more powerful country not to far away waiting for an excuse to "Wipe it off the face of the earth". How many more years till we are all killing each other?
You are right though, it is very interesting. And ofcourse it doesn't mean much, or that any aggresion will come of it.
Iran is a much more peaceful country then the United States. How many wars has Iran started over the past 10 years? How many lies has Iran stated to use as an excuse to attack a country in the past 10 years? How many innocent civilians has the country of Iran killed outside it's country in the past 10 years?
Having said that, what the Iranian President was above and beyond one of the dumbest comments I've heard in the past 10 years. However, Iran is a much more peaceful country then the U.S. |
|
|
| v8killah |
You talk so much stuff about the usa, its funny.
but man i don't care any more the funniest thing is watching you guys argue and complain but the fact is the us isnt goign away and they arent going to listen to you people.
thats whats really funny. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
You talk so much stuff about the usa, its funny.
but man i don't care any more the funniest thing is watching you guys argue and complain but the fact is the us isnt goign away and they arent going to listen to you people.
thats whats really funny.
Excellent retort! Atta way to avoid any real constructive comment by saying the typical "you're funny this, you're funny that"
Thanks for the contribution
:thumbup:
But you know what V8Killah, I'll play along...
Answer me this...over the past 10 years, how many innocent civilians have the U.S. killed in other countries? Over 30,000 alone in Iraq and am not sure of how many in Afghanistan.
Iran? I think the count is 0 and counting but please correct me if I'm wrong.
How many countries have the U.S. invaded? 2 from what I understand being Afghanistan and Iraq.
Iran? 0 and counting.
Who is considered the biggest threat to world peace according to recent studies?
#1...The good ol U.S of A
Tell me something...after reading this facts...what country would you consider a more peaceful country?
;) |
|
|
| Stainless |
COMMAND & CONQUER CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA FIRST!!!
And Battlefield 2 seems to be right up to date too. |
|
|
| SaabKraft |
Our invasion is legitimate, Bush declared, because "the United States of America has the sovereign authority to use force in assuring it's own national security", threatened by Iraq with or without Saddam.
The UN is irrelevant because it "has not lived up to its responsibilites" -- that is, to follow Washington's orders. The US will "enforce the just demands of the world", even if the world overwhelmingly objects.
-Noam Chomsky: Hegemony or Survival, America's Quest for Global Dominance.
Funny thing is, the US has been planning economic control of the world since WWII. They had built a policy based on neo-colonialism of the 'non-german' world. When the war was over and the allies had defeated Germany, the US realized they could have a bigger slice of the cake than they initially had planned. Documents exist to support this claim in detail.
The United State's 'indirect' involvement in South America has been pretty reprehensible as well.
And now they owe us $5 billion in illegal tariffs, which i'm guessing they'll just ignore.
(No conclusion, just some info/thoughts) |
|
|
| v8killah |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Excellent retort! Atta way to avoid any real constructive comment by saying the typical "you're funny this, you're funny that"
Thanks for the contribution
:thumbup:
But you know what V8Killah, I'll play along...
Answer me this...over the past 10 years, how many innocent civilians have the U.S. killed in other countries? Over 30,000 alone in Iraq and am not sure of how many in Afghanistan.
Iran? I think the count is 0 and counting but please correct me if I'm wrong.
How many countries have the U.S. invaded? 2 from what I understand being Afghanistan and Iraq.
Iran? 0 and counting.
Who is considered the biggest threat to world peace according to recent studies?
#1...The good ol U.S of A
Tell me something...after reading this facts...what country would you consider a more peaceful country?
;)
Man i have argued with you before, we both know where each other stands. US is a deadly country and if Iran wants to continue to fuck around they will pay, and innocent civilians are going to die.
What are you going to do about it, sit here and argue more?? It doesnt matter they will do what they want, im glad im on their side and not the side that cuts peoples heads off on national tv.
im glad they are going to go and bomb them, keeps them out of our country, and doing more terrorist attacks.
and i know your going to call me a retard but o well, its going to happen so i guess im not the only retard in your eyes, theres millions of them. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
Man i have argued with you before, we both know where each other stands. US is a deadly country and if Iran wants to continue to fuck around they will pay, and innocent civilians are going to die.
What are you going to do about it, sit here and argue more?? It doesnt matter they will do what they want, im glad im on their side and not the side that cuts peoples heads off on national tv.
im glad they are going to go and bomb them, keeps them out of our country, and doing more terrorist attacks.
and i know your going to call me a retard but o well, its going to happen so i guess im not the only retard in your eyes, theres millions of them.
Definition:
retort: A quick incisive reply, especially one that turns the first speaker's words to his or her own disadvantage.
The act or an instance of retorting.
I would never call you a retard bro...you have a right to your opinion as do I. Sure I don't agree with it but you haven't insulted me personally so I have no reason to insult you.
Anyhow, again...retort was not a spelling mistake. Read the definition. |
|
|
| v8killah |
Never said it was man.
but im done with this arguement, we will see what happens in a few months then ill be back:beer: |
|
|
| Wask |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Iran is a much more peaceful country then the United States. How many wars has Iran started over the past 10 years? How many lies has Iran stated to use as an excuse to attack a country in the past 10 years? How many innocent civilians has the country of Iran killed outside it's country in the past 10 years?
Having said that, what the Iranian President was above and beyond one of the dumbest comments I've heard in the past 10 years. However, Iran is a much more peaceful country then the U.S.
Peaceful nations don't call for the genocide of a people. Also why must you turn this thread into a USA bash? Its not what the thread is about. |
|
|
| SaabKraft |
quote:
Originally posted by Wask
Peaceful nations don't call for the genocide of a people. Also why must you turn this thread into a USA bash? Its not what the thread is about.
the title of the thread 'Beginning of the End of US World Power?' invites discussion on power, politics and war.
how do you think the US gained the status of a world power? not through peace, that's for sure. that might be where the 'bashing' is coming from.
Iran isn't so peaceful, either It just lacks the means to wage war on a conventional and visible level.
"... Iran became an Islamic republic in 1979 after the ruling monarchy was overthrown and the shah was forced into exile. Conservative clerical forces established a theocratic system of government with ultimate political authority nominally vested in a learned religious scholar...
(student seizing of US embassy from 1779-1981, Gulf war clashes with US in 1987-1988)
...Iran has been designated a state sponsor of terrorism for its activities in Lebanon and elsewhere in the world and remains subject to US economic sanctions and export controls because of its continued involvement. Following the elections of a reformist president and Majlis in the late 1990s, attempts to foster political reform in response to popular dissatisfaction have floundered as conservative politicians have prevented reform measures from being enacted, increased repressive measures, and consolidated their control over the government."
-CIA world factbook |
|
|
| v8killah |
| How the hell is israel the big brother to the US? |
|
|
| SaabKraft |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
How the hell is israel the big brother to the US?
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Being “Guarded” by Israel
American supporters of Israel were delighted to learn that an Israeli company, Magal Security Systems—owned in part by the government of Israel—is in charge of security for the most sensitive nuclear power and weapons storage facilities in the United States.
The largest perimeter security company in the world, Magal started out as a division of Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI)—which was owned in part by the government of Israel. In recent years, however, Magal evolved into a publicly-traded company, although IAI (and thus the government of Israel) still holds a substantial share in the highly successful firm.
What all of this means is that the government of Israel will actually have control over the security of America’s nuclear weapons.
Supporters of Israel say that this is a splendid idea, since Israel is said to be perhaps America’s closest ally on the face of the planet. However, there are some critics who question the propriety of America’s super-sensitive nuclear security being in the hands of any foreign nation, particularly Israel which, even today, officially denies that it is engaged in the production of nuclear arms.
Be that as it may, however, Magal’s global interests are quite broad-ranging. Having secured 90 percent of Israel’s borders through a wide-ranging array of super-modern “space age” technology, Magal has now branched out internationally. Not only does Magal provide security for American nuclear facilities, but it also does likewise for most major nuclear facilities in Western Europe and Asia.
'the jewish conspiracy! :rolleyes:'
US-Israel relations (continued aid $$$ and cosntant arms sales) are definately a hot topic that's best... avoided on here. But for an overview:
U. S.-Israeli relations have evolved from an initial American policy of sympathy and support for the creation of a Jewish homeland in 1948 to an unusual partnership that links a small but militarily powerful Israel, dependent on the United States for its economic and military strength, with the U. S. superpower trying to balance competing interests in the region. Some in the United States question the levels of aid and general commitment to Israel, and argue that a U. S. bias toward Israel operates at the expense of improved U. S. relations with various Arab states. Others maintain that democratic Israel is a strategic ally, and that U. S. relations with Israel strengthens the U. S. presence in the Middle East. |
|
|
| Wask |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
How the hell is israel the big brother to the US?
Also the US as veto'd every resolution against Isreal at the UN. Isreal gets away with shotting 14y/o Palestinians rock throws all the time. |
|
|
| v8killah |
| ok then... Little brother. |
|
|
| ae1969 |
I guess the real question is ...........
If the end of the U.S's reign is upon us........
Who do you suggest takes over there role?
Would I somehow feel safer if Iran was in the U.S's role? Think about that one for a minute.......
The solutions are never simple. |
|
|
| v8killah |
| The US is going to be on top until everyone in the world dies. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by v8killah
The US is going to be on top until everyone in the world dies.
hahaha, for a moment...just for a moment I was willing to debate with you...but with that comment I can see why your retorts are very well thought out with excellent backing.
:thumbup: |
|
|
| Stainless |
| Michael Moore is ejaculating right now, just from the energy being generated in this thread. |
|
|
| v8killah |
:thumbup: :lol: :D :lol: ahahah i love it, my retorts are pure entertainment.
but they are tru. |
|
|
| Pro Drag |
quote:
Originally posted by Stainless
Michael Moore is ejaculating right now, just from the energy being generated in this thread.
:lol: :bowdown: |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Dude, it's pretty well KNOWN fact that the U.S. is RUN by Israel.
How can you not know this!?
As Ariel Sharon once said:
At this point, a furious Ariel Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Have a look at this link:
http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
http://archive.showmenews.com/2002/...0207Comm003.asp
http://www.nesa.org.uk/latest_issue..._united_sta.htm
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/warmongers1.htm
Do you not understand that power of the Jewish lobby in the U.S.?
The WhiteHouse is not allowed to breath unless Israel allows them to do so.
Do a search yourself...It came straight from Ariel Sharon himself.
OK, I am reluctantly forced to reveal the true master of world domination...
I AM THE KING OF THE WORLD! |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
| Never mind me, I am a mindless puppet of the Zionist conspiracy. I blame it on the thought control poppy seed bagel I had this morning. |
|
|
| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Iran is a much more peaceful country then the United States. How many wars has Iran started over the past 10 years? How many lies has Iran stated to use as an excuse to attack a country in the past 10 years? How many innocent civilians has the country of Iran killed outside it's country in the past 10 years?
Having said that, what the Iranian President was above and beyond one of the dumbest comments I've heard in the past 10 years. However, Iran is a much more peaceful country then the U.S.
Iran is more peaceful than the US??? I don't know about you, but I feel perfectly safe going to the US on holidays but I doubt I could say the same for Iran.
My father-in-law is actually working in Iran right now and it is funny how all work sites around there have barb wire fences around them with armed guards. He also gets escorted to and from work in armed vehicles and stays in a hotel where he isn't allowed to leave without supervision.
And the reason he gets paid $750 a day plus all living costs and flights back and forth from Canada is DEFINITELY NOT because Iran is a peaceful country. lol |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverZ24
Iran is more peaceful than the US??? I don't know about you, but I feel perfectly safe going to the US on holidays but I doubt I could say the same for Iran.
My father-in-law is actually working in Iran right now and it is funny how all work sites around there have barb wire fences around them with armed guards. He also gets escorted to and from work in armed vehicles and stays in a hotel where he isn't allowed to leave without supervision.
And the reason he gets paid $750 a day plus all living costs and flights back and forth from Canada is DEFINITELY NOT because Iran is a peaceful country. lol
You dare question the Iraqi Information Minister, aka S2000_Rider?
You underestimate the recreational potential of Iran. Many Europeans holiday there every year. The Zionest controlled west would have you believe they are going to terrorist training camps but they are really Middle East Club Med franchises. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
You dare question the Iraqi Information Minister, aka S2000_Rider?
You underestimate the recreational potential of Iran. Many Europeans holiday there every year. The Zionest controlled west would have you believe they are going to terrorist training camps but they are really Middle East Club Med franchises.
HAHAHAH, I was waiting for my number 1 fan to jump in.
Your response is not typical though...Usually you at least attempt to hold an intellectual debate. In this case, it's pretty clear you can't refute my posts, instead you try to play off my comments with a poor attempt at being funny...I guess getting owned brings out the comical side of you. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverZ24
Iran is more peaceful than the US??? I don't know about you, but I feel perfectly safe going to the US on holidays but I doubt I could say the same for Iran.
My father-in-law is actually working in Iran right now and it is funny how all work sites around there have barb wire fences around them with armed guards. He also gets escorted to and from work in armed vehicles and stays in a hotel where he isn't allowed to leave without supervision.
And the reason he gets paid $750 a day plus all living costs and flights back and forth from Canada is DEFINITELY NOT because Iran is a peaceful country. lol
Tell your father-in-law not to worry, he's got a much higher chance of being killed in the U.S. then in Iran.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/153988.stm
Having said that, I'd still feel safer in the U.S only because I know it pretty well and have been there countless times where I've never been to Iran.
Anyhow, you misunderstood my point although I was still on point addressing yours. What I meant by post was looking at that past 10 years for eg., Iran has been much more peaceful country then the U.S. in terms waging war on other countries.
Looking at the surveys posted as well to threats against world peace the U.S. is an OVERWHELMING favorite. Where was Iran on that scale? |
|
|
| JustinL |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Tell your father-in-law not to worry, he's got a much higher chance of being killed in the U.S. then in Iran.
Unless he goes near a road... there are 45 deaths per 10,000 vehicles in Iran anually. 20 times that over the average of industrialized nations. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
Unless he goes near a road... there are 45 deaths per 10,000 vehicles in Iran anually. 20 times that over the average of industrialized nations.
Apples and oranges buddy. Utterly and completely irrelevant. |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
HAHAHAH, I was waiting for my number 1 fan to jump in.
Your response is not typical though...Usually you at least attempt to hold an intellectual debate. In this case, it's pretty clear you can't refute my posts, instead you try to play off my comments with a poor attempt at being funny...I guess getting owned brings out the comical side of you.
OK, now you have me confused. I thought I was owned by the International Zionist Banking Conspiracy, but you are now saying I am owned by a pseudo-intellectual?
Please give us more of those impartial links like "warmongers" so we may be convinced of the truth by the strength of your rhetoric and follow you on the path to enlightenment |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
OK, now you have me confused. I thought I was owned by the International Zionist Banking Conspiracy, but you are now saying I am owned by a pseudo-intellectual?
Please give us more of those impartial links like "warmongers" so we may be convinced of the truth by the strength of your rhetoric and follow you on the path to enlightenment
HAHAHAHAHAH,
How is quoting ARIEL SHARON HIMSELF an impartial link?
He said it himself!
Forgot the quote?
As Ariel Sharon once said:
At this point, a furious Ariel Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Over 1/2 of Europe....
forget it, I'm starting to feel bad for you. Getting owned twice in one thread is embarassing enough.
Have a nice day! :thumbup: |
|
|
| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
Unless he goes near a road... there are 45 deaths per 10,000 vehicles in Iran anually. 20 times that over the average of industrialized nations.
...shit thats almost as bad as Edmonton. :blink: |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
HAHAHAHAHAH,
forget it, I'm starting to feel bad for you. Getting owned twice in one thread is embarassing enough.
Have a nice day! :thumbup:
Every time I pop holes in the gas bag that is S2000_rider, he declares himself the intellectual superior through ownage and runs away.
The biggest difference between S2000 & I is that I make jokes intentionally in an attempt at humour, while S2000 make jokes unintionally with off-the-jihad-shelf propaganda campaigns. I don't even have to mock S2000 to make his posts look ridiculous, he does it to himself. I just mock him to keep in practice.
You are right about me being embarrassed. I am embarrassed to stoop to battle witticisms with an unarmed opponent. At least when I go at it with Snugs he occasionally says something funny and/or makes sense, you have yet to do that on this board.
Fun Facts About Iran (for those planning vacations)
No troubling alternative sexuality displays to bother you
Why not apply for a job in Iran? Business is booming!
No coddling of young offenders in Iran.
Amsterdam has nothing on this place
Heck, just pick any one of these:
As for the main thread topic, we always had nuclear coalitions, this is just a realignment of left overs from the Cold War, and the US came out of that one OK. The big difference now is that previous superpower nations could be more or less be counted on to recognize the futility of nuclear war because of MAD(mutually assured destruction). Today there are emerging nuclear powers run by clerics who do not place a high value on human life and are willing to offer their countries up as sacrifices for their cause. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
Every time I pop holes in the gas bag that is S2000_rider, he declares himself the intellectual superior through ownage and runs away.
The biggest difference between S2000 & I is that I make jokes intentionally in an attempt at humour, while S2000 make jokes unintionally with off-the-jihad-shelf propaganda campaigns. I don't even have to mock S2000 to make his posts look ridiculous, he does it to himself. I just mock him to keep in practice.
You are right about me being embarrassed. I am embarrassed to stoop to battle witticisms with an unarmed opponent. At least when I go at it with Snugs he occasionally says something funny and/or makes sense, you have yet to do that on this board.
Fun Facts About Iran (for those planning vacations)
No troubling alternative sexuality displays to bother you
Why not apply for a job in Iran? Business is booming!
No coddling of young offenders in Iran.
Amsterdam has nothing on this place
Heck, just pick any one of these:
As for the main thread topic, we always had nuclear coalitions, this is just a realignment of left overs from the Cold War, and the US came out of that one OK. The big difference now is that previous superpower nations could be more or less be counted on to recognize the futility of nuclear war because of MAD(mutually assured destruction). Today there are emerging nuclear powers run by clerics who do not place a high value on human life and are willing to offer their countries up as sacrifices for their cause.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh ye of little intelligence (and I'm being VERY generious when I say little intelligence). Once again you have you're blinders on full. Doesn't surprise me when a tiny little guppy like you refuses to look out the fishbowl of shit you currently reside in but if that's your personal fetish...all the power to you...certainly suites your witty personality ;).
Continue to please glance over posts and links and bypass them as left wing propoganda. I actually enjoy the way you think. You make it easy for others to laugh at seeing how you fall in this typical stereotype and re-enforce it with every dumb founded commented you post. Continue replying Rumsfield...
Nice website link btw...;). Excellent variety of sources and very evenly balanced. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
dumb ass. |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh ye of little intelligence (and I'm being VERY generious when I say little intelligence). Once again you have you're blinders on full. Doesn't surprise me when a tiny little guppy like you refuses to look out the fishbowl of shit you currently reside in but if that's your personal fetish...all the power to you...certainly suites your witty personality ;).
Continue to please glance over posts and links and bypass them as left wing propoganda. I actually enjoy the way you think. You make it easy for others to laugh at seeing how you fall in this typical stereotype and re-enforce it with every dumb founded commented you post. Continue replying Rumsfield...
Nice website link btw...;). Excellent variety of sources and very evenly balanced. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
dumb ass.
I appreciate your "generiousity"...:rolleyes: , it is "suite" of you to notice my witty personality. Your vocabulary sure takes a hit when you foam at the mouth.
If you go back and read s2000's posts you can see how they start off trying to sound eloquent as he tries to state a very shaky case. As he takes a couple of hits he degenerates into his usual insulting venom spewing and comes right off the rails.
Nice call on questioning my "balance".
That is so ironic it boggles my tiny fishbowl. |
|
|
| Talontsi96 |
| I must say this IS quite entertaining...You guys keep this up...Please... |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
I'd be content to let you two guys throw these ever so witty zingers back and forth all day, but I've got to point out for anybody who is actually bothering to read any of this stuff that the links to iranfocus that you posted might want to look into the background of that site and the people running it.
Or better yet, do your own search and find one of the many sites that document what a fine place Iran is and how it is making the world a better place. I did a 20 second search and got those sites. If you want to write a doctoral thesis that can stand up to examination, feel free to do so. It is worth noting that you had no quibble with any of our resident Jewish conspiracty theorist sites, snugs, or, that as ususal, you question the messenger because you can't dispute the message.
So snugs, planning some vacation time in Iran in the future?
I hear it is very peaceful and the drivers are no worse than here. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
Or better yet, do your own search and find one of the many sites that document what a fine place Iran is and how it is making the world a better place. I did a 20 second search and got those sites. If you want to write a doctoral thesis that can stand up to examination, feel free to do so. It is worth noting that you had no quibble with any of jihad-boy's sites, snugs, or, that as ususal, you question the messenger because you can't dispute the message.
So snugs, planning some vacation time in Iran in the future?
I hear it is very peaceful and the drivers are no worse than here.
Hey Asshat...as Snugs mentioned, the one and ONLY website you linked seemed quite reputable and balanced. At least try to post a variety if other links like I have done.
Any, anything else constructive you would like to add
Captain.HumanShitStain? |
|
|
| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
as ususal, you question the messenger because you can't dispute the message.
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
You dare question the Iraqi Information Minister, aka S2000_Rider?
 |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
Snugs, that was weak, even for you. Repetitive of your other art and not especially relevant. If I found myself on the same side as S2000 in a battle of wits I would have to reconsider my position.
I like a smart reply as much as the next guy but I would think a guy as bright as you could come up with a straight answer once in a while.
For future reference just post A or B when responding to my comments and it will save valuable bandwidth.
A. Check (insert left wing wacko authority here) and you will see Egg's source, (insert right wing wacko authority here), is a Bush/Chaney/Rove plant and a charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy.
B. "Egg quote making a joke" followed with "Egg quote asking a question" positioned in such a way as to have an appearance of contradiction. Insert cartoon to illustrate point.
I wondered why you couldn't do better than the two cliches but it must have something to do with engineers lacking original thought when it comes to Language Arts.
.
.
.
.
.
As for the S2000 comment of quote:
Captain.HumanShitStain
, thank you for showing us all another example of your class and eloquence. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
Snugs, that was weak, even for you. Repetitive of your other art and not especially relevant. If I found myself on the same side as S2000 in a battle of wits I would have to reconsider my position.
I like a smart reply as much as the next guy but I would think a guy as bright as you could come up with a straight answer once in a while.
For future reference just post A or B when responding to my comments and it will save valuable bandwidth.
A. Check (insert left wing wacko authority here) and you will see Egg's source, (insert right wing wacko authority here), is a Bush/Chaney/Rove plant and a charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy.
B. "Egg quote making a joke" followed with "Egg quote asking a question" positioned in such a way as to have an appearance of contradiction. Insert cartoon to illustrate point.
I wondered why you couldn't do better than the two cliches but it must have something to do with engineers lacking original thought when it comes to Language Arts.
.
.
.
.
.
As for the S2000 comment of , thank you for showing us all another example of your class and eloquence.
Your ignorance is truely bliss. Referring to me as a "jihadist-boy" is extremely religously offensive but again, it doesn't surprise me that such an offesnive statement would come from a feeble-minded individual like yourself. If you're going to attack me personally, I got no problems with that...knock yourself out. When you attack my Religion, that's where I take offence. Never once have I or will insult your, or anyones elses faith for that matter as it goes against my fundamental religious beleifs. Try to take that into consideration when you spew off at the mouth like a typical ignorant dipshit screaming "Aww hayte dem damn A-RAAABS and dem darn tooten Moooslaams...I don't know why hate'em but Bush is killen dem so aww hayte dem!" |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
S2000_rider, I apologize to you for jihadist-boy if you take that as a slur on your religion, it was not meant to be anything of the kind. I will remove it.
I hope you in turn will examine your deeply held religious beliefs and consider how some of your crude comments may not show them in the best light. If you are going to wave the banner of your religion you should try not to drag it through the mud.
|
|
|
| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
Snugs, that was weak, even for you. Repetitive of your other art and not especially relevant.
lol, crying about being somebody attacking the messenger after you dished out a load yourself (ie. jihadist-boy) is (as we've noted many times in the past) rather hypocritical and no way to win a debate or respect, particularly when you whine about being called on it and then, inexplicably, enter into the same cycle again. ;)
Now play nice guys.... or don't. :p |
|
|
| fazza |
| i spent a bit of time reading all these post's and saddly to say , most of u dont know wut ur talking about , ur just posting shit u saw on tv or read in a newspaper.the funniest coment i read tho was the guy that his dad work's in iran, of course ur dad's gonna feel unsafe bcz he is not from the country , he is form north america , he voted for a dumb president that inforced sanctions on there country. dont u see how it is , its not iran thats not safe its where ur from and where u are that decides if its safe or not, do u think if i go work in newyork in the area where the victoms familys of 9/11 live, i would feel safe? ( i am arab btw).no i would'nt . and fro the topic of the rise of the pwer in the usa, if u go read the history of the world, in every time there was a certain country or empire that was king of the world, eventually they all fall . some one posted a very smart comment that said would u rather have usa rulling the world or iran? i my self would'nt want iran to rule the world , heck i dont even trust arabs to rule the world, but that does'nt meen i like the way use is doing it. and the thing about dividing the world into 2 units, ( usa, europe) against ( rusia , iran, china.....) if that is true , thats a baaaad fucken idea, its just ww3 setup:dunno: |
|
|
| JustinL |
| I'm sure you are making some good points in there... but go back and fix that post so people can actually read it. |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
quote:
Originally posted by snugs
lol, crying about being somebody attacking the messenger after you dished out a load yourself (ie. jihadist-boy) is (as we've noted many times in the past) rather hypocritical and no way to win a debate or respect, particularly when you whine about being called on it and then, inexplicably, enter into the same cycle again. ;)
Now play nice guys.... or don't. :p
I know what you think of my politics, you have made it abundently clear ad nauseum. It is interesting that the minor perceived slights committed by me merit another of your pointed shots at my point of view, when posts that are on a whole different magnitude of offense slide by unnoticed when they are commited by someone who shares your view.
Don't try to play the impartial arbitrator of threads who corrects the wrongs because you don't have credibility for it.
I don't expect real answers from you snugs, because you never have one. You are good at clever shots and sly digs but never come through with legitimate alternatives. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
S2000_rider, I apologize to you for jihadist-boy if you take that as a slur on your religion, it was not meant to be anything of the kind. I will remove it.
I hope you in turn will examine your deeply held religious beliefs and consider how some of your crude comments may not show them in the best light. If you are going to wave the banner of your religion you should try not to drag it through the mud.
No need for an apology Badd Egg, but just be aware when you use religous terms such as Jihad. Please don't take my comments as an insult but you are using the term Jihad just like the media does without knowing the actual true meaning.
It's unfortunate that when we hear the term Jihad in the media, you as well as countless others think it's a term used for Muslims to strap on bombs, scream Allah-hu-Akbar and blow the shit out of innocent human beings. This is NOT jihad! War is a form of Jihad but there has to be MANY prerequistes before one declare this typ of Jihad. This form of Jihad you see and hear in the media like the 9/11 is utterly and complete bullshit! This was NOT jihad but WAS a sadistic and cowardly terrorist attack. Like I said, Jihad can be used in many forms...For eg, Every Muslim today is fighting a Jihad. A Jihad against trying to be on the path of rightesous and battling the temptations of sin. This IS a form of Jihad as well. By all means, I'm not an expert on this topic but I know enough to tell you that the media has done a successful job at portraying the term Jihad as one of the many scapegoats to blame Muslims as terrorists.
Secondly, your comment about my posts are a reflection of me dragging my religiong through the mud? I resent this statement. In this post we are talking about Politics, NOT about Religion. That's like me saying I hate domestics and you disagree with my opinion and then accuse me of dragging my Religion through the mud. Religion is NOT being discussed here, it's Politics. I have NOT in any way shape or form try to enforce my Religious beliefs on you, nor state my Religous as superiour and yours as inferior in this or in ANY thread as again, that would go against my religious beleifs themselves. So please, don't make such a statement is it is completely irrelevant and makes no sense. |
|
|
| snugs |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
I don't expect real answers from you snugs, because you never have one. You are good at clever shots and sly digs but never come through with legitimate alternatives.
Because when people are arguing about beliefs there is never a resolution. People believe what they want to believe regardless of what reality might have to offer to the contrary and to look for closure or a "real answer" at the end of it is utterly pointless.
.....which is why I put in the other thread that a political sub-forum should be called something like "Bang head here, repeat". :) |
|
|
| Bad Egg |
That was a good post, S2000, I value the lesson on Islam and the use of the term "jihad". I won't misuse the expression again.
The second part of your post I will have to agree to disagree with you. If you come on and pronounce your religion and devotion I have no problem with it and in fact I respect your commitment. It is when you choose to lose your temper(I admit that I may have provoked you in that), and use profanity and vulgar insults, you present the world with a view that such behaviour is acceptable for a devout, religious Muslim.
I make no such claims as a Christian, but I do remember being taught that the best way to win people over to your point of view is to be a good example. If we act one way inside our houses of worship and completely different outside then we discredit our faiths.
Now, if I was a good Christian(and I am not making the claim), I would have made my points debating yours without mocking you and rousing your anger. I will attempt to do that if it comes up again. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
That was a good post, S2000, I value the lesson on Islam and the use of the term "jihad". I won't misuse the expression again.
The second part of your post I will have to agree to disagree with you. If you come on and pronounce your religion and devotion I have no problem with it and in fact I respect your commitment. It is when you choose to lose your temper(I admit that I may have provoked you in that), and use profanity and vulgar insults, you present the world with a view that such behaviour is acceptable for a devout, religious Muslim.
I make no such claims as a Christian, but I do remember being taught that the best way to win people over to your point of view is to be a good example. If we act one way inside our houses of worship and completely different outside then we discredit our faiths.
Now, if I was a good Christian(and I am not making the claim), I would have made my points debating yours without mocking you and rousing your anger. I will attempt to do that if it comes up again.
I'm going to have agree and disagree with you. We all should refrain from personal insults regardless what religion you are and I can see your point where you say my comments reflect my religion but you also have to use some common sense as well.
Yes, I am Muslim but I'm by far not the best example of what a Muslim should be. For anyone to let one individual or in a world scale, a few bad apples form an overall opinion on a Religion that has over 1.2 billion followers is a little naive.
George Bush considers himself a devout christian and claimed that God told him to attack Iraq, KKK members use the bible to support the cause. Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson etc etc. but never once has it crossed my mind to form an opinion on Christianity based on these Nutbags. I know enough about the Christian Religion to know respect it as much as I do any other religion. Prohpet Jesus(PBUH) is even mentioned more times in the Qu'ran then our own Prophet Muhammed(PBUH). Kind of off topic I know but I find studying the Religion gives me a better, clearer understanding of the Religion rather then a small few nutjobs who get the Media and drag religion through the mud. |
|
|
| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by fazza
the funniest coment i read tho was the guy that his dad work's in iran, of course ur dad's gonna feel unsafe bcz he is not from the country , he is form north america , he voted for a dumb president that inforced sanctions on there country. dont u see how it is , its not iran thats not safe its where ur from and where u are that decides if its safe or not,
You think a guy that lives in Canada voted for Bush? lol
And you are saying that someone white in Iran isn't safe. To me that means Iran isn't safe. Granted there is discrimination everywhere, but not to that degree. :rolleyes: |
|
|
| fazza |
| u think ppl in iran know that ohh ur the white guy that voted for canadian president, to put it from a view where u can see it reasonable, everyone says arabs are terrorist and like to kill ppl for no reason , like osama bn-laden or sadam , do u think i voted for him , no , but never the less ppl still think that every arab is bad.and just like to u iran is'nt safe, to me usa isn't safe, that does'nt meen its not safe in general for everyone. |
|
|
| S2000_rider |
quote:
Originally posted by fazza
u think ppl in iran know that ohh ur the white guy that voted for canadian president, to put it from a view where u can see it reasonable, everyone says arabs are terrorist and like to kill ppl for no reason , like osama bn-laden or sadam , do u think i voted for him , no , but never the less ppl still think that every arab is bad.and just like to u iran is'nt safe, to me usa isn't safe, that does'nt meen its not safe in general for everyone.
Well your grammer isn't the greatest but you're point is bang on. Some...actually, I would wager the majority of the people on this site wouldn't dare think to travel to my home country yet I find it perfectly safe. On the other hand, when I travel to the U.S. the amount of problems I encounter with U.S. custom officials is just amazing. Random my ass! The worst is when they actually openely accuse you of something which is blatant lie just to test you so to me, the U.S. isn't safe but unfortunately, I have many relatives that in the U.S. so I really have no choice.
Anyhow, Z24, you're father in law may not feel it's entirely safe to work in Iran but safe enough to make the money he does ;). If he doesn't like Iran or doesn't feel it being safe then he can leave but then again, money talks and bullshit walks so I guess the situation can't be that bad ;) |
|
|
| 2000z |
quote:
Originally posted by S2000_rider
Anyhow, Z24, you're father in law may not feel it's entirely safe to work in Iran but safe enough to make the money he does ;). If he doesn't like Iran or doesn't feel it being safe then he can leave but then again, money talks and bullshit walks so I guess the situation can't be that bad ;)
He never said his dad doesn't feel safe. He just mentioned the fact that there are armed guards escorting him to and from work. I think a reasonable person would assume that the need for armed escorts would prove some degree of risk. I know there are foreigners working in North America(we have a few working in our machine shop from various countries) and I have not heard of any of them needing armed guards to get to and from work.
The point from fazza is ridiculous. If Arab people were as ignorant as you portray them I would be scared of going to work. I highly doubt that they think all white people are racist war-mongerers just like I know for a fact that most white people don't look at every brown person as a terrorist. |
|
|
| fazza |
k yes i do know my grammer sucks :D ,( i am an engineer in know numbers not words)
2000z u have to know that when i say iranian ppl think that yes bcz ur white u voted for that president i dont meen the majority of them , but for example take a person that is uneducated , that gets his facts form lsning to ppl talk or what ever , isn't he gonna think that bcz ur white and u speak english that ur american?( and dont tell me thats imposible i have meet ppl here in edmonton that dont know where arab country's r on the planet)
my point is i am talking about a minority of ppl , just like there is a minority of ppl in north america that think all arabs are terrorist's, and all it takes to feel unsafe in a place is having a few ppl that hate u.
the reason why i say this stuff is bcz i have lived half my life in the arab side of the world and the other half in none arab side. i know how both sides think, i have talked to ppl form both sides about there idea's , i have talked to both the educated and none-educated ppl form both sides.
my conclusion to why terrorists r terrorists is that when a little kid see's his dad or mom get shot right infront of them he is not gonna live his life normaly , of course he is gonna grow up holding a lot of hate to that soldier who fired the shot, but he cant go find that soldier who did it so he just assumes the whole army did it , then it grows to that the whole country did it, thats y they end up hating usa.
as for why usa is doing this shit , its the nature of human biengs , once u have something u need something better, to put it in a way i think most of u would understand, when u get a fast car, dont u want a faster one?
and to add one think to everyones information in the arab world there is no properly defined word for " racist" hate in the arab world comes form which country ur from not wut color u r. |
|
|
| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2000z
He never said his dad doesn't feel safe. He just mentioned the fact that there are armed guards escorting him to and from work. I think a reasonable person would assume that the need for armed escorts would prove some degree of risk. I know there are foreigners working in North America(we have a few working in our machine shop from various countries) and I have not heard of any of them needing armed guards to get to and from work.
Yeah, I never said he didn't feel safe. Just that a peaceful country shouldn't need so much security for some foreign workers. And of course money talks. And almost everyone on the job site is Canadian or European and it is some sort of government contract and apparently they don't have proper skilled workers there which is why they pay crazy amounts to bring people in. |
|
|
|
