| Markgase2000 |
Theres been alot of messed scenarios at UC meets lately. I missed some and some I am not fully aware of the full stories on. It is unfortunate that these scenarios occur. Some of you will know of some scenarios Im talking about. Leave examples out of this thread thanks its not a flame thread.
Do we need implementing Rules and Manners at meets? How would we enforce them? I for one am very respectful of all members no matter what I think inside of there cars/trucks. Why is it so hard to leave your opinions in your head and not let them fly out whenever you feel like it? Is composure a lost art?
Any suggestions would be great but like I said before
LEAVE THE EXAMPLES OUT OF THIS THREAD!
or just vote on the poll and say nothing.
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| dc2696 |
| trying to teach manners to a person who obivously gives two fucks about anything let alone some one elses car is so not gonna happen, eventually the ass clowns will figure out they're not welcome and find somewhere else in the city to meet and be cool together, so i vote no for trying to enforce any rules ect. |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by dc2696
trying to teach manners to a person who obivously gives two fucks about anything let alone some one elses car is so not gonna happen, eventually the ass clowns will figure out they're not welcome and find somewhere else in the city to meet and be cool together, so i vote no for trying to enforce any rules ect.
Fair enough but if you come up with ideas that may help change there attitudes/behaviour your welcome to add them in. |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
Fair enough but if you come up with ideas that may help change there attitudes/behaviour your welcome to add them in.
when they pull in, go up and very politely say "Fuck off".:thumbup: "your kind ain't welcome here"lol |
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| driftr420 |
presonally i think a change of venue would be nice.
not a suggestion but just an idea. maybe then the a-holes won't find us, and we could lighten up. |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| the UC spot is fine. As for attitudes there probably nothing you can do. To put "rules" on the meet would just piss others off and they would just find another spot to meet. For the meets that i went this year nothing really bad happened at UC its when everyone left UC to south common and WEM, thats where all the stupid shit happened. |
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| Supra_devil |
You can't force people to act a certain way in this kind of situation i think. it would be hard to stop people from showing off some while leaving, or revving to show off to people, etc. i personally just pop the hood and show the people i know what i've done, and leave it at that, maybe take them for a ride, but i treat the parking lot like a parking lot.
if it was private property with a certain group of people that where in charge that had the power to tell people that they aren't allowed any more, then that could maybe work, but then it makes the meets a job for some people, and thats no longer as much fun. |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
quote:
Originally posted by Supra_devil
You can't force people to act a certain way in this kind of situation i think. it would be hard to stop people from showing off some while leaving, or revving to show off to people, etc. i personally just pop the hood and show the people i know what i've done, and leave it at that, maybe take them for a ride, but i treat the parking lot like a parking lot.
if it was private property with a certain group of people that where in charge that had the power to tell people that they aren't allowed any more, then that could maybe work, but then it makes the meets a job for some people, and thats no longer as much fun.
exactly none of us have the power to decide how others act in a parking lot other than the police |
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| Markgase2000 |
How bout we encourage respect. Im not implying we have to have parking lot bouncers. We need a good solid sticky for 780 meet ettiquete. "Do onto others they way you would have them do onto you." No picking fights , no sabatoge of other peoples rides , be cool by bein nice to each other :dunno: maybe we can be popular as a responsable crowd instead of bein looked at like a 3 ring. I know several members who show up , respect each other have a good time shake hands with people they meet and go home without any trouble.
Like you guys said tho we cant enforce nothing but we can encourage cant we? We can do this in a nicer way than posting "780 idiots at meets" and putting down people who were showing off or whatever. Swallow some pride it cant hurt look at me I do it all the time and I made lots of friends/aquaintences. Be tastefull of your remarks on other peoples rides.
Just mere ideas suggestions. |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| yes i agree but it comes down to the kids who don't give two f**ks about what we think. Like i said most people at UC are good its when we leave for cruises and at other locations where the stupid people surface |
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| redbaron303 |
| If people are asshole, pricks, or whatever... it's up to them. The only thing I want when I'm at a UC meet is someone not to drive into my car and for people to LOOK but DON'T touch. It may not be the greatest toy out there, but have some respect - with that said not everyone knows how to show respect and I feel the best way to approach this situation is to monitor your car and if someone is disrespecting it ask them to stop, if they don't I'm not sure what else there is to do but call the police (depending on how serious the situation is). Also you can always roll up your windows and lock the car, helps keep people out. |
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| REFLUX |
| If someone or a few people could come up with a clear "Etiquette" list, I'd be willing to Sticky it. |
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| SilverZ24 |
| ^ a verbal comment should never lead to a physical action against someones car. :thumbdown |
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| jean-yus |
etiquette.. for a bunch of hormonal teens with hawt cars? good luck
:) im nota h8ter dont worry, im just sayin.. |
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| bigmack000 |
quote:
Originally posted by jean-yus
etiquette.. for a bunch of hormonal teens with hawt cars? good luck
:) im nota h8ter dont worry, im just sayin..
i dont think most of us or teens lil one ;) |
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| S2KPWR |
Its a lost cause.
Hence me not showing up to most meets anymore.
I just remember the old days of nice ppl, nice rides, and great cruises.
Not rusted out P.O.S vehicles with teenagers drinking/smoking up and doing e-brake donuts. |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
How bout we encourage respect. Im not implying we have to have parking lot bouncers. We need a good solid sticky for 780 meet ettiquete. "Do onto others they way you would have them do onto you." No picking fights , no sabatoge of other peoples rides , be cool by bein nice to each other :dunno: maybe we can be popular as a responsable crowd instead of bein looked at like a 3 ring. I know several members who show up , respect each other have a good time shake hands with people they meet and go home without any trouble.
Like you guys said tho we cant enforce nothing but we can encourage cant we? We can do this in a nicer way than posting "780 idiots at meets" and putting down people who were showing off or whatever. Swallow some pride it cant hurt look at me I do it all the time and I made lots of friends/aquaintences. Be tastefull of your remarks on other peoples rides.
Just mere ideas suggestions.
you think that the ppl who r doing these things r gonna respect the rules or guidelines for meets u put up???? hahahahaha like really thats just dumb, if they don't care about what they're doing u think a list of do's and don'ts will help??? valiant effort mark but not worth the page it'll b typed on. |
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| Markgase2000 |
| Good posts thanks. |
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| Charles_00civic |
| aww. i wann be the hormonal teen!! too bad my car went crash kinda. |
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| icydude |
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_00civic
aww. i wann be the hormonal teen!! too bad my car went crash kinda.
you cant call that kinda charles..... |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by redbaron303
If people are asshole, pricks, or whatever... it's up to them. The only thing I want when I'm at a UC meet is someone not to drive into my car and for people to LOOK but DON'T touch. It may not be the greatest toy out there, but have some respect - with that said not everyone knows how to show respect and I feel the best way to approach this situation is to monitor your car and if someone is disrespecting it ask them to stop, if they don't I'm not sure what else there is to do but call the police (depending on how serious the situation is). Also you can always roll up your windows and lock the car, helps keep people out.
Says the guy who was notorious for jumping into other people's cars. |
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| seevik |
| ive never been at a meet yet, pretty new member and im workin most of the time its on, or i just miss it find out its too late, and i always read bout the assholes of the meets, that do donuts and wat not, how bad are they realy when sum ppl dun show up to meets no more, ur not allowed to use the parkin lots and w.e else i read bout this shit, but hwy not just ignore them, not stare and say how much of an idiot he/she is or w.e just ignore, check out other rides there and talk to ppl if cops comes sayin u cant have meets at a specific location anymore cant u just explain that the asshole doin donuts is not wit u or a part of the meet or sumtin simple like that, cuz the only other way is mabbe have an undercover cop driving a done up prelude, and when ppl do donuts gives them tickets, but hey this aint hollywood lol, so yea just ignore the dubmasses trashin their cars |
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| S2KPWR |
quote:
Originally posted by seevik
ive never been at a meet yet, pretty new member and im workin most of the time its on, or i just miss it find out its too late, and i always read bout the assholes of the meets, that do donuts and wat not, how bad are they realy when sum ppl dun show up to meets no more, ur not allowed to use the parkin lots and w.e else i read bout this shit, but hwy not just ignore them, not stare and say how much of an idiot he/she is or w.e just ignore, check out other rides there and talk to ppl if cops comes sayin u cant have meets at a specific location anymore cant u just explain that the asshole doin donuts is not wit u or a part of the meet or sumtin simple like that, cuz the only other way is mabbe have an undercover cop driving a done up prelude, and when ppl do donuts gives them tickets, but hey this aint hollywood lol, so yea just ignore the dubmasses trashin their cars
Im not a huge grammer guy, but that whole paragraph doesnt have 1 period. |
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| midnite |
| you can encourage good behavior, but you can't force or excpect everyone to act on it. there really isn't anything you can do unless you are a figure of authority. |
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| midnite |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Says the guy who was notorious for jumping into other people's cars.
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_00civic
aww. i wann be the hormonal teen!! too bad my car went crash kinda.
WTF did you do? :confused: you get hurt? |
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| Markgase2000 |
| Come on people it can be a annonimous vote. Point click away its easy. Theres 5,000 + members so vote it up! |
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| 95IntegraRS |
quote:
Originally posted by S2KPWR
Its a lost cause.
Hence me not showing up to most meets anymore.
I just remember the old days of nice ppl, nice rides, and great cruises.
Not rusted out P.O.S vehicles with teenagers drinking/smoking up and doing e-brake donuts.
Ah the good old days.. things will never be the same... |
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| Markgase2000 |
You teasers! lol
Hey Matt did you vote? |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| No I didn't... doesn't much matter to me, I just talk to people I know well... |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
No I didn't... doesn't much matter to me, I just talk to people I know well...
Its all good Matt. I figure your entitled we are all entitled to our own ways own opinions. But as a group what do you think? Its not the original meets no more this is possably the largest auto club/group in edmonton. Its become big since the days where only a few buddies got together. What do you think of that? :) Matt you and your gf have always been nice to me even tho I seem like a nerd why? I dont know if Im in the circle of friends or considered a cool guy at meets but I sure do enjoy most of them for the most part. |
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| No-Pistons |
| im with matt ill come but im not going to get involved with a bunch of ppl i dont know at all. it used to be just a few of us that all new each other that we could trust. now so many people show up and i dont have a clue who 90% of them are next year when my cars all said and done im sure ill be at alot of uc meets but at the same time i dont think ill have my hood open or my windows down unless im sitting im my car. im putting alot of time and money into my car in the next 4-5 months and when its done the last thing i need is some fuck to drive into it or something getting stolen. if i put it in to a wall doing something stupid then its my own fault but i dont need or want the hassel of something happening to my car. |
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| Markgase2000 |
| Its all good :) you crazy guy! CRAZY THATS HOW IT GOOOOEEEES! lol wtf nam I drunk now? |
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| Charles_00civic |
| I think there should be a 2 dollar meet fee. The money will be used to buy the SENIOR SENIOR members taser guns. These guns will subdue rowdy members. I like the idea of having a cop around personally. lol. haha. We should have a siren and if someone tries shit we'll play it to give em a scare and they'll stop. lol. I dunno. I prefer taser guns. |
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| Charles_00civic |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
WTF did you do? :confused: you get hurt?
lol skidded into a pole. Its okay. I'm typing with a straw between my teeth though. Jk. TASER GUNS! |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_00civic
lol skidded into a pole. Its okay. I'm typing with a straw between my teeth though. Jk. TASER GUNS!
F%$K Taser guns Lasers are the SHIT! Oh and rocket launchers. Never mind just give me a Colt Commando 5.56mm and Ill shot at there knees for headshots!
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| ~30oZ~ |
| Maybe having a cop or two just sitting there with us would solve everything, I was think maybe speaking with EPS and seeing if they will bring their "Show car" to the meet so there will be some enforcement on site...but getting the EPS there is going to be pretty hard:dunno: if money is an issue maybe 780 will need to charge for membership every month something like a dollar (who doesn't have a $1, if people are buying nexopia because they like to chat or what ever they buy the plus version then maybe the car guys can spend a little for oir own site)....to pay for EPS supervision lol...don't hate on me please lol just throwing out ideas. |
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| keebler811 |
| Whoever wants to take on this little project....preferably one of the core senior members who will actually stick with it.....pm me and I will tell you how to get EPS representation (for free) at the meets next summer. Guareenteed. |
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| ChromeDragon |
We can always just call up the EPS and ask them to swing by. I can't see anyone paying to go into the meets, plus we can't exactly charge for people to come onto property that we don't own and are not paying for ourselves.
The guys from the EPS racing team have come by on several occasions, but you have to realize that they are usually out there on their own time. |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
We can always just call up the EPS and ask them to swing by. I can't see anyone paying to go into the meets, plus we can't exactly charge for people to come onto property that we don't own and are not paying for ourselves.
I dont like the idea for paying to attend meets either. Maybe a fundraiser for our own activities or our own racing team but not for attendance or membership.
I was gonna ask you Matt , do you know if anyone ever called the eps or is it just all talk? No names or examples just curious. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| hopefully everything will turn out for the best. |
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| Markgase2000 |
Thats cool .
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| No-Pistons |
quote:
Originally posted by ~30oZ~
Maybe having a cop or two just sitting there with us would solve everything, I was think maybe speaking with EPS and seeing if they will bring their "Show car" to the meet so there will be some enforcement on site...but getting the EPS there is going to be pretty hard:dunno: if money is an issue maybe 780 will need to charge for membership every month something like a dollar (who doesn't have a $1, if people are buying nexopia because they like to chat or what ever they buy the plus version then maybe the car guys can spend a little for oir own site)....to pay for EPS supervision lol...don't hate on me please lol just throwing out ideas.
i dont want cops there thats just retarded. can't wait to see the tickets i get window tint/ no cat/ exhaust the list can go on and on and on...... |
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| Markgase2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by No-Pistons
i dont want cops there thats just retarded. can't wait to see the tickets i get window tint/ no cat/ exhaust the list can go on and on and on......
Please offer suggestions dont judge other folks opinions/ideas. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote:
Originally posted by No-Pistons
i dont want cops there thats just retarded. can't wait to see the tickets i get window tint/ no cat/ exhaust the list can go on and on and on......
UC would be a “safe haven” for all the modified cars, If EPS was there to watch over the meet they wouldn’t be allowed to give out tickets unless you are doing something stupid but neons, and tint and all the other stuff that you would get tickets for on the road wouldn’t count at UC ...besides cops have checked in on us before and never given us any trouble for that shit anyways. |
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| Markgase2000 |
I agree. I never seen a enlarged exhaust ticket or tint ticket or anything other than improper insurance or no plates.
Like you I have a car without a cat. Not illegal in Alberta so long as a muffler is on the end of it.
Sorry I got off topic.
I think if the group learns to behave and follow some future rules we could hold our own events. Legal legit events that include having fun thrashing pavement :dunno:
My suggestion is to have a good reputation for 780 Tuners.
Lets be legit.
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
My suggestion is to have a good reputation for 780 Tuners.
agreed.:) |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
I think if the group learns to behave and follow some future rules we could hold our own events. Legal legit events that include having fun thrashing pavement :dunno:
I don't understand the event idea??? just some random fucking around u mean? who in their right mind is goin let u use there parking lot for that? sorry mark just my opinion i know u were just throwing out ideas. |
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| kustom83 |
| there are people that will let you use their grounds after hours. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by ~30oZ~
Maybe having a cop or two just sitting there with us would solve everything, I was think maybe speaking with EPS and seeing if they will bring their "Show car" to the meet so there will be some enforcement on site...but getting the EPS there is going to be pretty hard:dunno: if money is an issue maybe 780 will need to charge for membership every month something like a dollar (who doesn't have a $1, if people are buying nexopia because they like to chat or what ever they buy the plus version then maybe the car guys can spend a little for oir own site)....to pay for EPS supervision lol...don't hate on me please lol just throwing out ideas.
Hi Edwin,
I have been thinking on this one for a while. One thing that needs to be addressed are what are the objectives of the UC meets. To break it down further is the main goal of these meets to have giant car show so people can come around show off their cars, chat with other people and have a good time and feel welcome. Or are the meets in a similar fashion but just for a place for people to show off and fool around?
From what I am observing it appears the general consensus from those whom have posted want it to be a place where they can hang out, chat with people, look at cars, feel safe and welcome. It also appears that people posting on here are trying to discourage the bad reputation causing behaviour at the meets to have the 780 tuner community shine in a brighter light.
Having the EPS at the meets can be a good idea however what should their role be? Should they be there as more of an enforcing role, or more of a presence with support do help discourage the negative behaviour? I agree, if they were to come, they should bring in the Tiberon. But it would be nice to chat with them too. Has anyone ever thought with working with the EPS to help put the 780 tuners meet in a better light?
I am all for the EPS showing up, but I do not want them there feeling like they need to baby sit abunch of car guys. :D
I think if we were to have them at the meets we should have some sort of game plan, objectives. Something that would benefit them and the 780 tuner community.
Mark has a good point with the suggestion of manners at the meet. I have met many decent people. I have never had problems with any of them.
I just thought I would add in my thoughts on this subject.
Mike Nikolai |
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| No-Pistons |
quote:
Originally posted by Markgase2000
Please offer suggestions dont judge other folks opinions/ideas.
ill say whatever i want and thats my suggerstion on his comment |
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| No-Pistons |
quote:
Originally posted by ~30oZ~
UC would be a “safe haven” for all the modified cars, If EPS was there to watch over the meet they wouldn’t be allowed to give out tickets unless you are doing something stupid but neons, and tint and all the other stuff that you would get tickets for on the road wouldn’t count at UC ...besides cops have checked in on us before and never given us any trouble for that shit anyways.
lol read what your saying and tell me how the hell the cops are going to allow that???? what are we going to do fly are cars to uc and how are we going make it a safe haven??? i didnt know you could change the law for uc???
honestly if you dont like uc dont come. its not that bad i havent seen a fight yet so.... |
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| driftr420 |
| i belive we need a change of venue. i think it will freshen thing's up and weed out the assholes. but thats just my 2 cents. |
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| No-Pistons |
and secound we cant make rules for a place we dont own. where allowed to use it the owner is ok with that. But whos going to inforce these rules you guys want to make ??? 780 tuners security guards??? like honestly this hole thred is usless we can talk about it all we want but in the end no one on here can tell other people what to do or not to at uc.
i agree theres a bunch of people out there that could very well ruin this for us. But we can not do anything to them leaglly and i would like to see a cop on a friday, saturday night respond to a call on white ave at uc for littering i dought they would even come if you told them that there were people doing donughts in the parking lot and if they did they would most likely tell everoney to leave so...... |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by No-Pistons
and secound we cant make rules for a place we dont own. where allowed to use it the owner is ok with that. But whos going to inforce these rules you guys want to make ??? 780 tuners security guards??? like honestly this hole thred is usless we can talk about it all we want but in the end no one on here can tell other people what to do or not to at uc.
i agree theres a bunch of people out there that could very well ruin this for us. But we can not do anything to them leaglly and i would like to see a cop on a friday, saturday night respond to a call on white ave at uc for littering i dought they would even come if you told them that there were people doing donughts in the parking lot and if they did they would most likely tell everoney to leave so......
Hi No-Pistons,
I hear what you are saying and respect that. I agree we can not enforce rules on property that is not ours. I agree enforcement of the appropriate behaviour could prove to be a difficult task. In this case I believe it would be about psychology. There are a set of guidelines set out in place. These guidelines are enforced by people at the meets. The best way to enforce it would be to lead by example. New people at the meets would see this behaviour and eventually follow suit. If they do not, or are stepping out of line then perhaps some negative reinforcement may help, such as a talking too or asking them to leave?
I think the EPS if they are willing to help can be a good deterrent for the people whom want to ruin the meets whether or not they are consciously doing it or not.
I have found if you give the EPS respect they intern will respect you too. Think about it. How many times a day do they have to deal with degenerates yelling, screaming, and abusing them for what ever reason? They have a thankless job. I know that concept is hard for allot of people to swallow or get their heads around as some of your interactions have not been pleasant ones with them. At the end of the day we control how people will treat us and or if they will respect us. If one conducts themselves in a respectful manner, they will be respected. Respect is earned, not given.
I think the presence of the EPS may be helpful and could be insightful. It would provide an excellent opportunity to ask the members questions that you may not have had a chance to otherwise.
In regards to this thread being useless, I am afraid I must disagree with you on that point. Things can not and will not change with out discussion. From what I am reading from the polls and from the posts people are making. People are looking for change of venue. I am not certain what that change is or what it entails, however one thing is certain. With out discussion things can not progress forward now matter what aspect of life you apply it to.
Mike Nikolai |
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| Markgase2000 |
Thanks for your input Mike.
No Pistons I know you can say what you want I dont care cus I know you will anyways lol. Dont worry about it. I dont want other members to attack you and create a flame in this thread is all.
If a flame becomes a problem Ill have a moderator fix it.
As it looks on my 100 day pole. Change is more welcome than no change (so far) so this may become a issue that if 780 is to continue and want to grow (who knows what the owner wants) then change is prolly the way to go.
:dunno:
100 days to give enough members time to think about it and vote the way they want. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote:
Originally posted by No-Pistons
lol read what your saying and tell me how the hell the cops are going to allow that???? what are we going to do fly are cars to uc and how are we going make it a safe haven??? i didnt know you could change the law for uc???
honestly if you dont like uc dont come. its not that bad i havent seen a fight yet so....
If you're driving out to UC that's your prob if you get a ticket. What i'm trying to say is IF you are there at the UC lot cops aren't going to be walking around giving tickets to the cars that are there...thats what I ment by "Safe Haven"...that would be the rules for the EPS if they agree to it, If not then there won't be any EPS supervision if they can't agree....besides how many times have you seen police stop by at the meet and not do anything about the mods on a car?....5 maybe 10 times? THE POLICE HAVE ALREADY COME BY THE MEETS AND HAVE DONE JACK SHIT ABOUT PEOPLES CARS. the kinda shit that goes on at UC like people burning out, doing donuts, trying to destroy their rental SUV's:rolleyes: , etc have deterred many people from the meets already...we're trying to set up a safe place for cars and people...I for one love drifting, burnouts and everyhting else but what people are trying to say is UC isn't the right place to do it. |
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| ChromeDragon |
I think that Mike hit it right square on the head. It's as simple as asking someone to respect the property that we are being allowed to make use of. If they want to disrespect it, then we can politely ask them to leave.
We have had the police drive through the meet on many occasions, several times the Blueline racing team has even stopped in to hang out and talk cars. I have never been at UC when someone was hassled by cops, no matter how many illegal modifications they have on their cars. While we have nothing in writing, there seems to be an unspoken agreement that they won't hassle us so long as we respect the lot. This is why we are concerned when people are doing heatbag shit to attract attention.
I think we can all agree that we have had fun over the past couple of years meeting at UC and I, for one, don't want that to change. The only change I would like to see is the meets getting bigger with a wide variety of cars. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
The only change I would like to see is the meets getting bigger with a wide variety of cars.
thats my point in order for that to happen the BS needs to stop...the impression they get when people see shit like that is "what a bunch of idiots"we need to move away from that kinda thing, no? i'm not saying that we she this happen every meet but it's just something to work on. |
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| Nightstalker |
| I personally don't attend much anymore, but i think you guys are correct in your approach to it. Realistically, if you ever have someone that is totally out of line. Take that chance to make a example of them. The cops are less then a 5 min walk away. If you ask them to come over and take care of a problem person I am sure they would be more then willing. If that does not work there are other ways that I am sure people could be shown that what they are doing is not acceptable there. |
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| Markgase2000 |
| I dunno Mike this attempt is kinda dumb on my part. |
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| Nightstalker |
| I think its one of those things that in a perfect world it would be nice.. but its not something thats ever really possiable in the real world sadly. |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by Markgase2000
I dunno Mike this attempt is kinda dumb on my part.
Hi Mark,
I am confused to as to your statement. Which attempt are you referring to? Can you please clarify.
Nightstalker,
Perhaps you may be correct. In order for an idea like this to work we would need the participation of the majority of people attending the meets or an understanding of what is proper and what is not for the meets.
This may take a while to generate results and or ideas that would be acceptable to everyone on here. However at least the wheels are in motion thanks to Mark.
Mike Nikolai |
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| Markgase2000 |
Sorry Mike N I was actually commenting Mike (Nightstalker)
Im just bein stupid hard on myself I do that :rolleyes:
Thanks for the kind words tho :)
I dunno if it will help or not its just a collection of ideas and also at the same time try to positively find out what members think and feel should be done. Sure the club was started by a few but now its bigger. New and Senior Members are having issues at the meets that discourage them from attending. This could be affecting the turnouts more than we think. Yes theres tons of Nice respectable members whats wrong with bein nice and respecting each other. Its not an issue of having cops hang out at the meets but a issue of manners and respect. I dunno encouragement in the most positive way is the way I want it. I think perhaps cops hanging out at meets could cause tension Im not sure if its a great idea. I dunno thats all this is a bunch of ideas......... |
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| Charles_00civic |
| Why dont we just kick out anyone who misbehaves. lol. Call the coppers over. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| I think we are going to be changing the meeting location for senior members. Things get out hand when little kids attempt to join in. We'll just leave it that. Next year there are going to be changes, and a lot of people aren't gonna be let in on the secret. You guys just keep blabbing about changing UC meets now. Carry on. |
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| kustom83 |
| I totally agree. I myself just started attending meets this year and it wasn't very long before I noticed who were doing stupid stuff and having the cops show up because of it. moving the meeting place would seem like the only realistic way of "weeding" these people out. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Well, most of the senior members have been coming out to these meets since the beginning. We have seen the deterioration and a lot of guys have stopped coming out as a consequence. But next year, the NLR meets we are going to having on weekends are going to be invite only and if you show up without one, well, expect to get the cold shoulder. |
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| Nightstalker |
| Its the same kinda thing that Cevo and EPC did a couple years back. Its just good to kinda get away and hold smaller meets with people that you enjoy hanging out with. Heatscore was doing the same things for a while. Now we just sit around and post on the internet. |
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| Turbo_Civic92 |
| love the idea with the invites for NLR what are u guys up to this winter im finally down for good in december, anyways the invites are good idea but we would have to find a good location where we could have some say who can hang around. anybodies dads own a lot?? Big enough to support a ton of cars?? |
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| midnite |
| the meets have definatly grown this year, i do enjoy seeing more cars but not the BS that some of the people bring. i'm down for some more private meets. |
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| SilverZ24 |
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
I think we are going to be changing the meeting location for senior members. Things get out hand when little kids attempt to join in. We'll just leave it that. Next year there are going to be changes, and a lot of people aren't gonna be let in on the secret. You guys just keep blabbing about changing UC meets now. Carry on.
Wow, secret meets for the cool people lol :limpwrist |
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| driftr420 |
i guess were not all good enough for the senior member meets.:bowdown: lol
look i agree that the newbies can be a problem but, how will they ever learn how to properly conduct themselves unless they have role models to look up to. we were all 16 with a new car once, and i'm willing to bet that most of you just matured into respectful drivers. i think if we had a location change where only senior members could meet ,it might push new members away and, if i recall our scene is on the increase, now some of you see this a bad thing. but personally i think more heads is better than one. but thats just my 2 cents :beer: |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| I could really care less what people thought about it. |
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| driftr420 |
so why should any of us care what you think? how is your 2 cents anymore valid than someone else's opinion?
:bowdown: :bowdown: senior members :bowdown: :bowdown: |
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| Xtra_X |
I think a list of etiquette would be a good Idea if not only to discourage bad behaviour but to encourage new members to come out to these meets. I've always wanted to show up but haven't because of fear of pissing people off or being ridiculed for what I drive/can afford. I know I don't have the nicest ride or the most money but I'd be nice to show up with an Idea of whats expected from you while your there.
Thats if people want to add new members to the meets. |
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| icydude |
780 will soon become more and more seperated becuase of this.
new clubs will form. |
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| Nightstalker |
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Originally posted by Xtra_X
I think a list of etiquette would be a good Idea if not only to discourage bad behaviour but to encourage new members to come out to these meets. I've always wanted to show up but haven't because of fear of pissing people off or being ridiculed for what I drive/can afford. I know I don't have the nicest ride or the most money but I'd be nice to show up with an Idea of whats expected from you while your there.
I think your a little to worried. There are lots of cars with little to no modification that show up to the meets. Just remember that everyone started somewhere. Aside from the people that just picked up a turn key pre-modded car, we all were at the same point you are now before. Most of us can remember that and understand where you are coming from. Personally, for the most part as long as the person has realistic goals I usually enjoy being part of those conversations more. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
quote:
Originally posted by driftr420
so why should any of us care what you think? how is your 2 cents anymore valid than someone else's opinion?
:bowdown: :bowdown: senior members :bowdown: :bowdown:
Because the people that don't want to have to put up with this bullshit all respect me and agree with me.
I don't care if you care, I wasn't even talking to nobodies like you. |
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| Nightstalker |
:eek: :lol: :asshole: :drama:
Nice work Matt, another noob owned. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
:eek: :lol: :asshole: :drama:
Nice work Matt, another noob owned.
Haha, thanks buddy! :thumbup: |
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| Charles |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
Well, most of the senior members have been coming out to these meets since the beginning. We have seen the deterioration and a lot of guys have stopped coming out as a consequence. But next year, the NLR meets we are going to having on weekends are going to be invite only and if you show up without one, well, expect to get the cold shoulder.
wicked idea matt.. that will be alot better |
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| charger_guy |
| good idea....bout time u lay the law hahaha |
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| shawley |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
Well, most of the senior members have been coming out to these meets since the beginning. We have seen the deterioration and a lot of guys have stopped coming out as a consequence. But next year, the NLR meets we are going to having on weekends are going to be invite only and if you show up without one, well, expect to get the cold shoulder.
good idea
but like
there have been some of us that keep going even to the past weekend, to UC, while everyone stops, |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
invite only and if you show up without one, well, expect to get the cold shoulder.
I can see & understand the desire for more maturity at car meets but having "invite only" ones doesn't do anything to further Edmonton's SCC scene.
Honestly guys, if you have a problem with certain people & the way they act at the meets, DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM.
Having "exclusivity" car meets doesn't do anything to solve the issue.
You're only running & hiding from it (quite literally actually).
Not exactly a mature way to deal with the situation, especially since you're requesting new members/people to act maturely.
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| driftr420 |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
I can see & understand the desire for more maturity at car meets but having "invite only" ones doesn't do anything to further Edmonton's SCC scene.
Honestly guys, if you have a problem with certain people & the way they act at the meets, DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM.
Having "exclusivity" car meets doesn't do anything to solve the issue.
You're only running & hiding from it (quite literally actually).
Not exactly a mature way to deal with the situation, especially since you're requesting new members/people to act maturely.
:dunno:
agreed, the last thing i want to see is the scene suffer in any way.:fingersx: |
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| Charles |
| but dealing with the problem can also lead to more problems :dunno: |
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| driftr420 |
quote:
Originally posted by Charles
but dealing with the problem can also lead to more problems :dunno:
this is where the maturity that keeps being talked about, would come into play.
like any situation there is a proper way to deal with it.:thumbup: |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| What scene? A bunch of homos who show up with wings and rice cannons? We are the scene. End of story. |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
We are the scene. End of story.
Matt, I am sure you see the flaw in your "reasoning."
Ok fine, your core group of enthusiasts may make up the vast majority of the meets but the SCC scene it isn't made up exclusively of those people.
EVERYONE has a first time or had a first time and people's tastes, ideas, mentalities, even MATURITY level changes with time & exposure.
Isolating these "homos with wings & rice canons" doesn't do anyone any good.
So many potential possibilities are lost by deprivation:
-Ability for you to influence these newbies to see a different, possibly "better," way to mod their cars
-The chance for new members to see nicely done up cars that in turn may change their appreciation for it.
-The possibility in even meeting new & interesting people.
The list goes on.
Believe me man, I can totally understand how you feel about asshats doing stupid shit at the meets that ruins things for everyone.
But change does not happen by sitting on the sidelines, bitching & complaining about it.
Change happens when something is done to affect the matter at hand. |
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| shawley |
| well maybe we'll just meet somewhere else then cruise to UC later on in the night, stay for a bit, then all cruise out to a private spot that i think matt will pick or know of, |
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote:
Originally posted by shawley
well maybe we'll just meet somewhere else then cruise to UC later on in the night, stay for a bit, then all cruise out to a private spot that i think matt will pick or know of,
That's a cool idea:thumbup: |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| You bring up excellent points Terry. I'm not totally against meeting with these people, but the fact of the matter is good friends of mine have stopped coming to meet up on Friday nights because of these people and their attitude and I'm not out to accomodate anyone but people I want to be around. I know Aaron (S2KPWR) was really pissed about the last meet he was at where he expressed things had gone really downhill. I just want him and others I will leave nameless to come back to Friday night meets. And if moving the location and keeping it secret is going to do that, then thats the plan. And if anyone of the "old school" guys complains about it, I will definately take their concerns to heart. But if some newbies on the board are whining, in all honesty, I don't really give a fuck. I hope that clarifies things for you Terry! :beer: |
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| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
What scene? A bunch of homos who show up with wings and rice cannons? We are the scene. End of story.
Wow, quite an arrogant little fuck aren't you? :rolleyes:
I'm sure you caused a few (more senior members than you) to stop coming back in the day when you first started showing up... |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| You'd be saying the same thing. But you open your mouth without knowing anything, better arrogant than ignorant. |
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| Shady_Pro |
| this is the only community of car enthuthis i ever seen argue like this over somthing you really can't control...i think its a waste of time... |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
You bring up excellent points Terry. I'm not totally against meeting with these people, but the fact of the matter is good friends of mine have stopped coming to meet up on Friday nights because of these people and their attitude and I'm not out to accomodate anyone but people I want to be around. I know Aaron (S2KPWR) was really pissed about the last meet he was at where he expressed things had gone really downhill. I just want him and others I will leave nameless to come back to Friday night meets. And if moving the location and keeping it secret is going to do that, then thats the plan. And if anyone of the "old school" guys complains about it, I will definately take their concerns to heart. But if some newbies on the board are whining, in all honesty, I don't really give a fuck. I hope that clarifies things for you Terry! :beer:
Alright that sounds fair Matt.
Maybe some communication can be made between the more "senior" members & the new ones.
I suggested earlier that if anyone is willing to make a "Guidelines for the Meets" post, I'd be more than happy to sticky it.
It may not solve the problem entirely but it's a start. |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by Shady_Pro
this is the only community of car enthuthis i ever seen argue like this over somthing you really can't control...i think its a waste of time...
Waste of time or not, the people in this community are only arguing about this because they care.
If they didn't, nothing would be said.
And I'm not sure which enthusiast communities you've observed but I sure as hell know that the larger ones I frequent (namely Honda-Tech) ALSO argue & show concern over the "watering down" of hardcore enthusiasts. |
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| SilverZ24 |
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
You'd be saying the same thing. But you open your mouth without knowing anything, better arrogant than ignorant.
I agree with you saying that newbies are annoying and many have bad taste, but it is your quote "we are the scene. end of story" that is both arrogant and ignorant. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
And what would you like me to say?
The group of people that I involve myself with are the hardcore tuners. We are the guys that build our cars for racing on the weekend. We have performance parts and that is our concern, improving the performance of our vehicles and consulting with others about it.
Do you really think that we want to hang around with kids who 'heard about these meets at school' and decided to bring down their 4 door Neons and rat bagged Civics and put the condition of our vehicles in jeopardy by performing low level driving 'stunts' with reckless abandon. You want to reason with someone, try reasoning with these pricks. You criticize my comments but I'd like to see your reaction to your pride and joy almost being written off and seeing the hard work of setting up these meets and getting proper consent from the owners, put in jeopardy.
If you put any effort into trying to bring tuners together for cruises and discussions, you would be able to sympathize with me and my comments. But you haven't. Plain and simple. I'm not ignorant or arrogant, I'm just in tune with what goes on and who is involved in the scene and who the posers are. |
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