| Mr.DC5 |
well last night on the way going home from the school, i got pulled over by a campus security, he claimed that i was running over the red lights at very high speed.
Well I could have stopped when i see the green light turning yellow, but it was 2:30am, there was no car around, and i was tired so I decided to give it a little more gas, but yea the red light was turned before i leave the intersection.(but isn't this what most people do??)
So this is how I got pulled over.
So like every cop does, i handed over my registration and pink card, but i didn't have my license with me as i picked up the parcel the other day and left the license in the other jacekt.
Then he went back to the car and found out that my license was expired which i wasn't awere of. To be more specific my lincense had been expired for exactly 12DAYS.
Here is the thing that really pissed me off. He told to step out of the car and put my hands on the vehicle.
"You have been arrested for having the expired license"
I was like "wat??" (I had no idea that my license was expired)
And he handcuffed me infront my girl friend and a friend, which was a really embarrasing.
And threw me into the back of his seat, and tried to scare me with all the BS("we r going to take you down to the office and your car will be impounded blah blah"). He also asked me if I wanna call the lawyear and so on..I was like "for wat"
After a long investigation, he said "i can release you here" I fell like shit..I was treated like i was some kind of serious criminal, not to mention that my hands were tied up for 40mins.(it seriously hurt! when you try to position yourself with your hands back tied up and on the fiberglassed back seats)
I ended up having two tickets
one for the license,$240, and the other one for the red light,$280.
So here my questions go..
As most of university students know..December gotta be the painful month for us..I have been extremely busy with 7 tests..and never thought about renewing the license and it's been expired for 12days..can this be excuse to fight in the court?
I got into the intersection when the light was yellow and the light was red before i leave the intersection. Is this really what redlight ticket is?
Can I also fight with how he treated me?
Oh and the last thing that really pissed me off..it wasn't even a local police it was just a campus security!! |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
I would presume that you remember your birthday. Unless you celebrated it in a total drunken stupor, the notice that the province of Alberta sent you in the mail a month or two before should have given you reason enough to connect one with the other, or did you fail to update your mailing address (which is also an offence)?
Chalk it up to a life lesson, pay your fines, and smarten up (that's what you're in the UofEh for isn't it?).
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| 95EagleAWD |
It's not just Campus Security.
All Campus Officers are Special Constables, which are given powers of arrest by the province. They have every legal right to arrest you.
So you were 'cuffed and tossed in the back of a PC... doesn't sound like you were mistreated in any way. Handcuffing a suspect or prisoner is for the officer's safety. There's no way to hurt them if your hands are securely behind your back.
As far as your expired license, I doubt any judge would let it go on the "I forgot" basis. It says right on it when it expires and the province should send you a letter reminding you to renew.
The only thing I'd fight might be the red light... :dunno: |
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| Bad Egg |
Yes, you can get a ticket for entering the intersection on a yellow light and leaving on a red. I would suggest that you do not fight a ticket on that testimony for you will likely lose.
Red light camera tickets only work when you enter on a red, but that is just to avoid court challenges. |
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| DeathBy240 |
He did treat you like shit. He probably just wanted to embarrass you as he has to deal with the embarrassment of being campus security.
I would be pissed too. You don't need to handcuff someone for traffic offenses. You did nothing criminal and you should not have been treated like one. Having an expired license doesn't make you a potential violent offender.
You were in the wrong, but you didn't deserve to be treated like that. |
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| inglewood |
i dunno...about the arresting part that is.
either i'm missing some facts from your story...or he was just power tripping.
see, yes, handcuffing and arresting, done properly is part of an officer's duties...but for a traffic stop with an expired license????
do u have any warrants? have you been involved in major crimes?
am i missing something? |
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| n0c7 |
Heh, campus security. Overpowered security guards.
:lol:
Shitty deal DC5. |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by inglewood
i dunno...about the arresting part that is.
either i'm missing some facts from your story...or he was just power tripping.
see, yes, handcuffing and arresting, done properly is part of an officer's duties...but for a traffic stop with an expired license????
do u have any warrants? have you been involved in major crimes?
am i missing something?
You are not missing anything from the story.
He also asked me when he was handcufffing me if i have any fines that i didn't pay. And I said no.
Well i never got anytickets in my entire life except for one speed camera ticket. |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
So you were 'cuffed and tossed in the back of a PC... doesn't sound like you were mistreated in any way. Handcuffing a suspect or prisoner is for the officer's safety. There's no way to hurt them if your hands are securely behind your back.
So i was a suspect or prisoner yea? |
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| midnite |
| i think campus security likes to power trip. i was thrown in the back of their suv for having an open drink in my hand. |
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| LeadSled |
| Just curious, but does Campus Security have ties to the EPS or RCMP? ... so if someone tries outrunning them, if they don't have your liscence can they try to call in Air 1 or an interception ? |
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| inglewood |
campus 5-0 (as they're known on campus) are like eps, in that when they reach the edge of their city they'll just radio it to the next residing zone...which is EPS in all cases, since edmonton surrounds all corners of the u of a.
there are some nice ones (campus 5-0 that is), but there's always gotta be the one bad apple, who's gotta make the rest look bad.
unfortunate incident...i'm sure you can always complain, as i think you should when finals are done...but if you don't really care that much, then let that shit slide...you'll always meet assholes in every line of society...politicians, priests, teachers, paramedics, doctors...it's not just the police...they just happen to always be in the public spot light.
anyways, hope things get sorted out...make sure you advise the rest of us the outcome of this matter. |
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| keebler811 |
Ok, sorry for the long post, but this needs to be said.
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.DC5
Here is the thing that really pissed me off. He told to step out of the car and put my hands on the vehicle.
"You have been arrested for having the expired license"
I ended up having two tickets
one for the license,$240, and the other one for the red light,$280.
Ok, first off, I agree with what has been said about you being in the wrong for the expired licence and red light and what not. As people on here know I am about as pro-police as you can get. However, I would totally fight these...it is true that Campus 50 likes to power trip a lot. They are notorious for unlawfully searching people. For example, they stop a guy riding on the sidewalk on a bike, which is in violation of a city bylaw. So yes, they can stop him and give him a ticket, but the "empty your pockets" is completely unlawful. I can't even begin to tell you the number of stories I've heard from friends of mine who are cops who respond to Campus 50 because they've found some weed in some guys pocket arising out of a jaywalking stop or something similar where they have NO POWER OF SEARCH. Sorry, off on a tanget there...it just pissed me off. Anyways, I have the following two problems with this little incident.
First off, the ticket for driving without a valid DL is $230, and a red light ticket is $287. Were you just rounding them out in your story or did they actually write $240 and $280 on your tickets? If they did write the wrong amounts, go to court on the day on the tickets and explain this and end of story.
Secondly, while Campus 50 are special constables and have most of the same arrest powers as normal police, "arresting" someone for not having a driver's licence is unheardof. There are only a few provincial laws that specifically state that police (let alone Campus 50) have arrest power for...not having a DL is not on that list.
Therefore, not having a valid DL falls into the general category with almost all the other traffic offences as they are summary conviction offences (the ones which you can be arrested for are things like hit & run, no insurance, and believe it or not, speeding). The criminal code states that anyone can be detained for a summary conviction offence (ie all provincial laws). However, there is a big difference between being detained and being arrested. When you get pulled over for running a red light you are being detained, but the courts have said that is not a "detention" with respect to the Charter of Rights, as it is a slight inconvience to you and there is no reason to provide you with access to a lawyer and such. You just simply sit in your car and wonder if the cop back there is actually writing you a ticket or will you get a break. That is a slight detention and the courts have said suck it up and deal with it, as it will only be a few minutes.
On the other hand, when someone is detained to the point where it is more than just trivial, then they must be "arrested", and informed of their rights (all that legal shit that was read to you about wanting to call a lawyer and such), as this qualifies as a "detention" in the eyes of the law. I know, leave it to lawyers to use bascially the same word for two very different things...being detained and being under detention. The best way to think of it is you sitting in your car waiting for your speeding ticket is being "detained"...you in the back of police car (cuffed or not) is flirting with the "detention" line.
Ok so that's all fine and dandy...but remember what I said above. Not having a valid licence is NOT one of the offences which the TSA states that police have an arrest power for. So, unless there was something else going on during this incident (and only you know for sure what the circumstances were), there is absolutely no reason for you to be arrested for that offence, let alone be cuffed and placed in the back of the car.
Take this one to court and let Campus 50 explain why they felt it necessary to arrest you and cuff you. If everything you said in your story is true and you're not leaving anything out, then you were certainly unreasonably arrested. I would personally be fighting this on principle, but at the very least do it so you can get those two tickets tossed. Good luck! |
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| keebler811 |
quote:
Originally posted by LeadSled
Just curious, but does Campus Security have ties to the EPS or RCMP? ... so if someone tries outrunning them, if they don't have your liscence can they try to call in Air 1 or an interception ?
Yes they have a mutual radio channel and believe me if you took off from them they would be all over you! |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by keebler811
Ok, sorry for the long post, but this needs to be said.
Ok, first off, I agree with what has been said about you being in the wrong for the expired licence and red light and what not. As people on here know I am about as pro-police as you can get. However, I would totally fight these...it is true that Campus 50 likes to power trip a lot. They are notorious for unlawfully searching people. For example, they stop a guy riding on the sidewalk on a bike, which is in violation of a city bylaw. So yes, they can stop him and give him a ticket, but the "empty your pockets" is completely unlawful. I can't even begin to tell you the number of stories I've heard from friends of mine who are cops who respond to Campus 50 because they've found some weed in some guys pocket arising out of a jaywalking stop or something similar where they have NO POWER OF SEARCH. Sorry, off on a tanget there...it just pissed me off. Anyways, I have the following two problems with this little incident.
I forgot to mention they indeed searched my pockets to see if i have any sharp things in my pocket before put me in their car.
quote:
First off, the ticket for driving without a valid DL is $230, and a red light ticket is $287. Were you just rounding them out in your story or did they actually write $240 and $280 on your tickets? If they did write the wrong amounts, go to court on the day on the tickets and explain this and end of story.
Yea I kinda guessed them, but i can take a look to double check.
Thank you for the very helpful reply. :thumbup:
But my major concern fighting in the court is that it almost looks like i'm just fighting for my right to be a human being, not for the tickets. So I'm not sure how I should start complaining about this in the court. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.DC5
well last night on the way going home from the school, i got pulled over by a campus security, he claimed that i was running over the red lights at very high speed.
Well I could have stopped when i see the green light turning yellow, but it was 2:30am, there was no car around, and i was tired so I decided to give it a little more gas, but yea the red light was turned before i leave the intersection.(but isn't this what most people do??)
So this is how I got pulled over.
So like every cop does, i handed over my registration and pink card, but i didn't have my license with me as i picked up the parcel the other day and left the license in the other jacekt.
Then he went back to the car and found out that my license was expired which i wasn't awere of. To be more specific my lincense had been expired for exactly 12DAYS.
Here is the thing that really pissed me off. He told to step out of the car and put my hands on the vehicle.
"You have been arrested for having the expired license"
I was like "wat??" (I had no idea that my license was expired)
And he handcuffed me infront my girl friend and a friend, which was a really embarrasing.
And threw me into the back of his seat, and tried to scare me with all the BS("we r going to take you down to the office and your car will be impounded blah blah"). He also asked me if I wanna call the lawyear and so on..I was like "for wat"
After a long investigation, he said "i can release you here" I fell like shit..I was treated like i was some kind of serious criminal, not to mention that my hands were tied up for 40mins.(it seriously hurt! when you try to position yourself with your hands back tied up and on the fiberglassed back seats)
I ended up having two tickets
one for the license,$240, and the other one for the red light,$280.
So here my questions go..
As most of university students know..December gotta be the painful month for us..I have been extremely busy with 7 tests..and never thought about renewing the license and it's been expired for 12days..can this be excuse to fight in the court?
I got into the intersection when the light was yellow and the light was red before i leave the intersection. Is this really what redlight ticket is?
Can I also fight with how he treated me?
Oh and the last thing that really pissed me off..it wasn't even a local police it was just a campus security!!
Hi Allen,
I would think the best thing for you to do is to make a complaint with the people at Campus Security. You could alway try and find out who to raise the issue with by saying you are calling on behalf of a friend?
I have been razed by Campus Security at the U of A once before in my Supra. I came accross the intersection from stoped at a Red light when it tuned green. The intersection was 114St? Right by the butterdome and where the busses travel into the depot. I had acclerated from a stop and my BOV chirped as I let of the gas. Anyways I picked up my passanger and as I was leaving the compound as I was driving back down the road the Campus Security officer shouted out his window "You want to slow that thing down before you enter the compound next time". I was amused and stunned as I had not hit 40 km/hr when I let off the gas and the BOV sounded.
As for the tickets, you may want to talk to POINTS. At least I think that is what they are called. You may need to take your lumps on this one, but it may be worth a shot.
Hope this helps,
Mike Nikolai |
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| colossus |
| Based on what you stated were the facts you should check with a lawyer, it sure sounds like unnecessary excessive force on a traffic violation? Campus Security is a bit of a joke, wasn't it on their watch that 2 or 3 women have been raped on campus at night? What exactly is it they get paid to do? They sure don't walk women to their cars at night. But they sure take the traffic stuff very seriously if they handcuff you, what next are they going to 'rough someone up' too? |
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| keebler811 |
| I agree with GOT BOOST...you should call Campus 50 (492-5050) and ask what their proceedures are on filing a complaint. Then you can explain what happened and then go from there. They might just drop the tickets outright. If that fails then just go to court on the day on the ticket and ask to speak to a JP and explain things. If need be you can then schedule a trial and have the Campus 50 officers try to explain what happened. The POINTS people are very good and useful, but they are also expensive...usually in the $300 range just for minimal stuff. I think you'll find if you file a complaint (and you should as they are clearly in the wrong here) and talk to the JP at court you will come out on top on this one. However, don't stress about it now...worry about your finals and then after the break deal with this. |
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| Honda_Finatic |
| i would be pissed if some guy who couldn't cut the EPS or RCMP arrested me for a traffic violation. After filing a legitimate complaint, i would sue their damn asses for defamation. It was a traffic violation, not a murder attempt!!! Good luck. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
| Not to mention if one of your passangers has a valid license they should be able to drive your car home for you if, it's insured and registered rather then them tow it. |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Not to mention if one of your passangers has a valid license they should be able to drive your car home for you if, it's insured and registered rather then them tow it.
They didn't actually tow my vehicle.
My gf drove the car.
So that's good thing. |
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| tegGSR |
thats brutal..especially during exams...enough stuff to worry about...i didnt know that campus security was such a problem:mad:
anyways i hope you can get the tickets thrown out or at least reduced. goodluck |
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| No-Pistons |
| i hate campus security they think that there cops and they go way over board on everything. one tryed to chance me when i was in the FD last summer lol couldn't keep up. |
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| beatshack |
there are so many factors in the way he treated you.. could be any combination of these:
a) he might be disgruntled for being campus security, power tripping (or not)
b) he sees some young guy rip through a red light in a nice car, he instantly forms a stereotype against you as "a young punk who thinks he can do whatever he wants"
c) he's trying to rattle you into not driving stupid anymore (even if in your eyes you weren't driving stupid). |
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| albertarc |
quote:
Originally posted by keebler811
Secondly, while Campus 50 are special constables and have most of the same arrest powers as normal police, "arresting" someone for not having a driver's licence is unheardof. There are only a few provincial laws that specifically state that police (let alone Campus 50) have arrest power for...not having a DL is not on that list.
Therefore, not having a valid DL falls into the general category with almost all the other traffic offences as they are summary conviction offences (the ones which you can be arrested for are things like hit & run, no insurance, and believe it or not, speeding).
Please refer to Section 169 of the Traffic Safety Act for a list of the offences arrestable under the Act. You may notice that driving w/o a driver's license is indeed an arrestable offence (there's not much that isn't as a matter of fact).
Jimbo :eek: |
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| keebler811 |
| I stand corrected....I thought (as did my two EPS friends) it was just Section 94 (driving with a suspended licence), but indeed Section 51a (driving without a valid licence) is also on the list. Still seems a little excessive to me unless there were other factors at play. I mean, given that they released him at the scene they must not have had any concerns about the continuation of the offence, so I don't see how Section 169(1) could have been satisfied for the arrest in the first place :dunno: |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
Again, as I wrote in my post (the very first to reply)...chalk the whole thing up as a life lesson and quit whining about it but learn from it.
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| inglewood |
wow, i stand corrected about whether it's an arrestable offence or not...
well, i guess you live and learn.
i still stand by my opinion that it was a teeny-weeny bit unnecessary... |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by inglewood
wow, i stand corrected about whether it's an arrestable offence or not...
well, i guess you live and learn.
i still stand by my opinion that it was a teeny-weeny bit unnecessary...
Maybe from your point of view it was.
But from the officers.... maybe the car looked suspicious. Maybe the suspect wasn't as polite as he's said he was, or did or said something to arouse suspicion. Who knows? Maybe the cop power-tripped.
But I'd rather see a guy bitching about getting 'cuffed than a dead cop.. (see: Laval, Quebec yesterday) |
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| tegGSR |
if exactly what was explained is what happened and nothing was left out of the story i think its bullshit that campus security is picking on students that are studying late...i study late and i'd be so pissed if this happened to me.
goodluck fighting that....i think you should complain to the U of A about being treated like shit by campus security |
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| inglewood |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Maybe from your point of view it was.
But from the officers.... maybe the car looked suspicious. Maybe the suspect wasn't as polite as he's said he was, or did or said something to arouse suspicion. Who knows? Maybe the cop power-tripped.
But I'd rather see a guy bitching about getting 'cuffed than a dead cop.. (see: Laval, Quebec yesterday)
fair enough |
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| No-Pistons |
quote:
Originally posted by keebler811
I stand corrected....I thought (as did my two EPS friends) it was just Section 94 (driving with a suspended licence), but indeed Section 51a (driving without a valid licence) is also on the list. Still seems a little excessive to me unless there were other factors at play. I mean, given that they released him at the scene they must not have had any concerns about the continuation of the offence, so I don't see how Section 169(1) could have been satisfied for the arrest in the first place :dunno:
you have a licence but its just expired does that still fall under that section or a different one??? |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by tegGSR
if exactly what was explained is what happened and nothing was left out of the story i think its bullshit that campus security is picking on students that are studying late...i study late and i'd be so pissed if this happened to me.
goodluck fighting that....i think you should complain to the U of A about being treated like shit by campus security
Yes, once the exams are done, I will. |
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| Mr.DC5 |
quote:
Originally posted by MX5 Miata Guy
Again, as I wrote in my post (the very first to reply)...chalk the whole thing up as a life lesson and quit whining about it but learn from it.
:drama:
I can deal with stuff i made mistakes, that's not a problem. I just didn't understand why I had to look like a criminal in front of everyone on the street especially in my campus area.
I don't need your life advice as I know well enough what I will do with my life.
And I wonder if you would have done the same thing as you said "chalk the whole thing up as a life lesson and quit whining about it but learn from it." if you were in my situation. It's easy to say whatever you think when you are not in the part.
So please stop making posts or don't even look at this thread if you don't like what i'm doing.
Thank you, |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.DC5
I can deal with stuff i made mistakes, that's not a problem. I just didn't understand why I had to look like a criminal in front of everyone on the street especially in my campus area.
You were made to look like a criminal because, in the officer's view, it was warranted.
Like I said above, they 'cuff people for their safety, not to embarass you.
As I understand the first post, you did (or nearly did) run a red light. Am I right? So, under those circumstances, he has every right to pull you over for your driving.
Again, maybe he cuffed you because of something you said. Or did? Or maybe it was just a bad vibe he got from you. I watch people at work all the time who seem a little "shady" (I'm not calling you shady, but you get my point). Instincts (paying attention to feelings and "bad vibes") save a lot of lives.
Of course, I wasn't there. So this is pretty much a bench-racing topic for me. But I think I have a decent view on the situation here.
Chalk it up to officer safety and complain if you feel compelled to do so. Perhaps you might get an explanation from the officer himself (or her). |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.DC5
I can deal with stuff i made mistakes, that's not a problem. I just didn't understand why I had to look like a criminal in front of everyone on the street especially in my campus area.
I don't need your life advice as I know well enough what I will do with my life.
And I wonder if you would have done the same thing as you said "chalk the whole thing up as a life lesson and quit whining about it but learn from it." if you were in my situation. It's easy to say whatever you think when you are not in the part.
So please stop making posts or don't even look at this thread if you don't like what i'm doing.
Thank you
You're still whining and not learning.
First off, I'm not stupid enough to let me driver's license lapse -- I'm well aware of when my birthday is and can count to five (number of years it's valid), and keep my address up to date with the provincial registrar.
You probably thought you'd get away with moving to campus and not spend the money to change your address / license...so it was a conscious decision. That's a speculation, but why else wouldn't you have responded to the nice reminder that the province mails you months prior to your license expiring???
So you're pissed off that Campus Security treated you like a punk-kid when caught. Whaaaaaaa! Get over it.
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| bigmack000 |
i got cuffed before in med hat. got pulled over for no registation i was 16 and my rents gave me the car a few days before and said i coudl drive it so i did. they only cuffed me and tossed me int he car once they knew my mom worked for the best criminal defense laywer in southern alberta. then i got a ride to her office.
Mr.DC5 is rigth tho it hurts like a bitch on the hard back seats in the cars.
all i rember is i got off scott free because of my mom haha:thumbup:
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| red88.n/a.rx |
| bah ive been handcuffed numerous times and if only hurts like a bitch if you squirm lol.... but really that sucks for you but its happened to me before aswell and you cant do shit they can handcuff you all they want even if your not posing a threat so suck it up and go try and fight the red light ticket if you want but you are most likely fucked. |
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| inglewood |
MX-5 miata guy...whomever that is, seems to think it's his responsbility to be everyone's parent. Reality check, you're not.
Mr. DC-5 was seeking advice on how to deal with a unique situation he found himself in. He needn't have some dimwit go off on a tangent telling him he deserved what happened.
My suggestion to you, MX-5, next time you feel it necessary to share your opinion with others, please try to stay on topic, and address the matter, not your own personal rant. Stop trolling. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by inglewood
MX-5 miata guy...whomever that is, seems to think it's his responsbility to be everyone's parent. Reality check, you're not.
Mr. DC-5 was seeking advice on how to deal with a unique situation he found himself in. He needn't have some dimwit go off on a tangent telling him he deserved what happened.
My suggestion to you, MX-5, next time you feel it necessary to share your opinion with others, please try to stay on topic, and address the matter, not your own personal rant. Stop trolling.
word. theres alot of jesus' on this site |
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| Fish_e_o |
i'm actually suprised that the campus security can do that but not pull over a known drunk driver:confused: :confused: :confused:
this was the case in the gateway drive along article where it stated that they had no authority in driving offences like such??? and simply folloed the druk driver to make sure he didn't kill anyone because it was out of their jurisdiction still that sucks and it's pretty stupid that he gave you the ticket and wasn't like.. "go tommorow and renew your licence" you would think he would give some grace period???.. either way they don't get alot of respect and are pretty power hungry...
i know they have radar and they can give you a ticket for speeding on university property but not on roads.. |
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| No-Pistons |
| honeslty i think cops could find something better to do with there time than arresting people for expired licences what murder count are we on now??? |
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| Fish_e_o |
| i'm not religous but amen to that!!! |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by No-Pistons
honeslty i think cops could find something better to do with there time than arresting people for expired licences what murder count are we on now???
Really? And how is the Police supposed to prevent murders?
They go after the suspects after they commit the crime, and they've arrested people for over 75% of the murders commited this year. That's pretty good Police work, IMHO... |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Really? And how is the Police supposed to prevent murders?
They go after the suspects after they commit the crime, and they've arrested people for over 75% of the murders commited this year. That's pretty good Police work, IMHO...
So that leaves 25%.. which could have lead to arrests if they weren't pulling people over for bulbs and exhausts. |
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| Wheelhop |
My wife was pulled over for some minor offence. When she provided her licence it was 10 days short of three years expired. The cop told her to take care of it right away as after three years you have to redo the driving tests. Then he sent her on her way! No ticket at all.
I get nailed to the wall everytime.
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
So that leaves 25%.. which could have lead to arrests if they weren't pulling people over for bulbs and exhausts.
Hardly.
Traffic cops and officers in squad cars don't investigate murders. Detectives do.
So the traffic cop pulling you over for your bulbs, exhausts, expired licenses and any other thing he or she deems necessary is simply doing his or her job. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by Wheelhop
My wife was pulled over for some minor offence. When she provided her licence it was 10 days short of three years expired. The cop told her to take care of it right away as after three years you have to redo the driving tests. Then he sent her on her way! No ticket at all.
I get nailed to the wall everytime.
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Is your wife hot?
My wife go of darn near scott free on a street racing ticket, small ticket, gave her a speeding ticket(She was in a hawaian orchard purple Z22 cavalier and she was racing some punks in a Z24 iroc, she won, ya know power to wieght ratio, plus I dunno what they had for an engine... anyhow.. we did like 4 more laps one jasper ave and the Irco was still pulled over... |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Hardly.
Traffic cops and officers in squad cars don't investigate murders. Detectives do.
So the traffic cop pulling you over for your bulbs, exhausts, expired licenses and any other thing he or she deems necessary is simply doing his or her job.
Alright.. so someone gets shot.. who is the first to arrive. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Alright.. so someone gets shot.. who is the first to arrive.
Officers in cruisers. However, unless the situation can immediatly be resolved there, (either the suspect is still on site and is apprehended or is otherwise subdued) their involvement ends there. The homicide officers take over the investigation, and the sole involvement of traffic officers at this point would be BOLFing for the suspect.
You can be damn sure that if there was shots fired and they had you pulled over, they'd be out of there in a hurry. |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Officers in cruisers. However, unless the situation can immediatly be resolved there, (either the suspect is still on site and is apprehended or is otherwise subdued) their involvement ends there. The homicide officers take over the investigation, and the sole involvement of traffic officers at this point would be BOLFing for the suspect.
You can be damn sure that if there was shots fired and they had you pulled over, they'd be out of there in a hurry.
Yea i don't get pulled over anymore. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Yea i don't get pulled over anymore.
Waddya mean? |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Waddya mean?
I've paid a great deal of tickets.. learned from it.. and now i haven't been pulled over in a year. None of those tickets were equipment violations. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
I've paid a great deal of tickets.. learned from it.. and now i haven't been pulled over in a year. None of those tickets were equipment violations.
Probably the only one on the board... :lol: |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Probably the only one on the board... :lol:
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| inglewood |
| Ok, I have a question...albertarc is right that as per section 169(2) of the TSA, persons may be arrested without warrant for not having a driver's license (i.e. expired as well). Now by that same premise, section 169(2) also specifies speeding as an arrestable offence as well...hmmm, so again, we're back to where we started. I don't know of ANYONE who's been handcuffed for being stopped for speeding, even when exceeding the limit by over 50km/h. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
You can get arrested for 50 over, your car impounded and can be slapped with a jail term.
It's quite rare.
When I worked at a gas station, I had to call the St. Albert RCMP for a guy that woudn't shut off his car when he was fueling up. They were there in about 45 seconds (musta been close and nothing else to do) and the cop asked me if we had surveillance cameras (of course) as evidence. He wrote the guy a huge ticket (like over 1000$) and chewed him out. The guy bitched back and the cop shut him down telling him that, according to the Criminal Code, you can be slapped with a 15,000$ fine and/or 3 months in jail. :eek: Turn those cars off, I guess.
Being handcuffed for offenses such as speeding doesn't really happen in town. It's out in the boonies, when the cops don't have a lot of backup. Small town cops often pull people over with guns in their hands as this is their only backup for what could be up to 30 minutes. It's much different here in an urban area. |
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