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FS: 1990 Nissan Fairlady TT 2+2. - Click HERE for Original Thread

Sinatra
Twin Turbo
Auto
Two plus Two
86,XXX km
Gunmetal Grey
Grade 3.5 B

w/ Volk F-Zero Challenge wheels and bridgestone rubber.

Help me pay my tuition! haha

Asking $11,000 OBO.

Sinatra
Lots of views but no interest! Come on dudes!

Nis13
too expensive

Sinatra
If it was less expensive, would you buy it?

86SilverFox
pics?

Nis13
maybe. i am in the market for a car. but i know those thigns are bought from importers for an average for 6gs so i wouldnt spend lcsoe to 8 for one thats been driven in alberta or driven after its been landed for who knows how long ect you know. i don't mean to shit on your thread just IMO

Nis13
and yeah pics would be nice

Sinatra
If you can find another one in this condition, with low KM's, for a lower price, feel free to buy it. The extra grand or so I'm asking for over other fairlady z's is largely due to the immaculate condition of the car.

Not to mention the over 3 grand worth of wheels and tires.

But like I said, OBO.



Nis13
http://www.importconcern.ca/perl/b_list.pl?10800


http://www.importconcern.ca/perl/b_list.pl?10634


5500 and 6000

500 bucks in body work..

anyways thats all im trying to say rims are usualy a personal preference you cna't really price rims into the sale price unless the buyer actualy likes them IMO rims give personality to a car


yours is nice though bump for a clean fairlady

Nis13
and low kms

stevemo600
quote:
Originally posted by Nis13
http://www.importconcern.ca/perl/b_list.pl?10800


http://www.importconcern.ca/perl/b_list.pl?10634


5500 and 6000

500 bucks in body work..

anyways thats all im trying to say rims are usualy a personal preference you cna't really price rims into the sale price unless the buyer actualy likes them IMO rims give personality to a car


yours is nice though bump for a clean fairlady



I think the price is pretty high considering this is probably the worst time to sell a RWD Turboed vehicle and it's an Auto but, you can't compare a landed vehicle with a broker stock vehicle.

I think his price is too high but I also think that there's a huge advantage to being able to inspect the vehicle as well as test drive it to see what you think.

Good luck with the sale though!

Sinatra
Also, I think comparing ANY sale to one from Import Concern is somewhat unfair.

Considering that they have so much money to be able to price their vehicles so low, it's pretty hard to compete.

But you know, I need the money for school etc. So if selling my car for some rediculous price, which contributes to completely destroying the resale market for imported cars in canada, like IC is doing, I guess that's what I'm gonna have to do.

stevemo600
quote:
Originally posted by Sinatra
Also, I think comparing ANY sale to one from Import Concern is somewhat unfair.

Considering that they have so much money to be able to price their vehicles so low, it's pretty hard to compete.

But you know, I need the money for school etc. So if selling my car for some rediculous price, which contributes to completely destroying the resale market for imported cars in canada, like IC is doing, I guess that's what I'm gonna have to do.



Dude I wouldn't go that far. IC is a reputable company but there are many other companies selling for the same prices. They're not destroying resale values as everybody knows how much it costs to import a Fairlady Z, regardless of who you decide to import through. Your price is higher than the market price right now and it's not the season to be selling.

I would do a bit more research in regards to what your car is worth and re-evaluate your price, which will hopefully spark some more interest. Don't blame other importing companies as it's not their fault you aren't able to get what you want for your vehicle.

Like I said earlier, good luck with the sale.

Sinatra
I've decided that the extra few bucks in the price is due to the friggen' headache I went through importing the car myself too haha.

But yeah, I figured it would come to this.

If anybody wants to make me an offer, anything at all, please feel free to do so.

got_ceskis
trade for an 95 awd tsi talon?

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by got_ceskis
trade for an 95 awd tsi talon?


Sorry man, I'm gonna need a trade for like... a bus pass and cash.

youngbex
you dont compare landed cars to broker cars! landed cars are worth alot of money when in good condition like this Z

Nis13
the broker stock price is the price of the car landed in vancouver if not alberta.

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by Nis13
the broker stock price is the price of the car landed in vancouver if not alberta.


Can you seriously stop shitting all over me please?

youngbex
quote:
Originally posted by Nis13
the broker stock price is the price of the car landed in vancouver if not alberta.



um prices for cars with oil leaks and engine noises dont count, this is a solid Z and i think the price is very fair.

Nis13
how low will you drop? pm me

Sinatra
Droppped to $10,500.

Make me an offer.

Dilsky
Bump for a nice lookin car and a student trying to make hiw way through haha. Screw it man, thats what i say, take out a student loan and keep a car like that. I feel your pain, good luck with the sale.

Dilsky

deknick
that is a really extremely clean looking z. do you have msn or something that i can easily talk to you that you can send me pictures and all the info on it? i am interested but am in edmonton, and need to sell my z. but i realyl want lots of pictures and info. thank you

Bad Egg
I don't think this 300 is that out of line. You can buy one much cheaper from an importer or do it yourself, but there is a lot to be said for being able to inspect prior to buying.

I look at it like this:

Car X in Japan is worth say 5 G to bring to a dock in Vancouver. The import company takes their $1000 (just to use a round #). You have just paid them to handle the importing but you are still holding the bag for any work the car needs. You have put out 6 G + whatever repairs are needed. That unkown figure is your risk factor.

If the car is landed and inspected the importer will then increase their fee to $2000, so now the car is worth 7G(assuming no repairs are needed), but the risk factor is much lower.

If you want to play it safe and get a car like this 300ZX you are probably still at about half the cost of a comparable North American version so it is still a bargain.

Sinatra
Dropping the price again for the last time before spring hits. This is a great deal on a very nice Fairlady. Check the Trader and you will see that this is one of the lowest priced Fairlady's in all of Canada.
A few extras I didn't mention about the car is the 2000 model year rear lights that are clear on the bottom ($300ish USD if you can find them) and then the projector headlights ($1600usd from AMZ performance) plus the Stillen shifter ($300.00) as well as the Cat Back exhaust.!!

Make an offer!!

car
please dont even bother replying to Nis13...

he thinks that deciding a value of the car is as simple as looking at few pages.

It looks like it is in really good condition, if everything checks out good, than price is why not. 300zx are popular cars.

Goodluck with the sale and bump fora nice car.

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by car
please dont even bother replying to Nis13...

he thinks that deciding a value of the car is as simple as looking at few pages.

It looks like it is in really good condition, if everything checks out good, than price is why not. 300zx are popular cars.

Goodluck with the sale and bump fora nice car.



Thanks for the bump!!

It is amazing how people who will never have the money or ability to buy a nice car like this will crap on everybody's posts.
One thing I have learned about buying cars is the value is only relavant to the purchaser. If you think a car is worth the money then go ahead and buy it, drive it and enjoy it. Don't ever think twice about it.

miiike
the cars Nis13 posted have unknown km. One of them had over 120,000km on the a/m odometer, this car could possibly have 200,000km+. With some people paying 10 grand+ for skyline gts-t's(which cost pretty much exactly the same fob price, if not less ) i think your price is relatively reasonable. The only thing working against you is that its an auto:( .

bump for a nice ride

TURBO_ROB
hmmm im looking for a 300zx where abouts do you live? in edmonton?

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by miiike
the cars Nis13 posted have unknown km. One of them had over 120,000km on the a/m odometer, this car could possibly have 200,000km+. With some people paying 10 grand+ for skyline gts-t's(which cost pretty much exactly the same fob price, if not less ) i think your price is relatively reasonable. The only thing working against you is that its an auto:( .

bump for a nice ride



I read an item once that indicated that the Auto's are actually just as fast because the turbos do not loose boost during shifting? Not sure if it is true? Either way this thing is fast enough for any roads we have around here!!

Bad Egg
It's funny this thread has resurfaced. Just this week a guy at work was telling me about his son buying a $5 G Fairlady through an importer...and he needs to put another $4 G in it to get it to pass the OOP.

Or he could of bought this very nice Z with the some nice mods, rims, etc. Which would you buy for the same amount of money? Bump for the Z!

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Sinatra
I read an item once that indicated that the Auto's are actually just as fast because the turbos do not loose boost during shifting? Not sure if it is true?


Not entirely true. IF drag racing is your sole purpose and you modify your TTZ extensively and upgrade your torque converter, etc. then the autos become much easier to drive fast down the 1320 (especially WRT to consistent launching).

But comparing stock 5-spd vs. stock auto TTZs the 5-spd is quicker every time. And all the published test data that was available thru '89 to '96 supports this.

BTW the differences in performance stock vs. stock is due to more than just the transmission. For example, there are differences in the MT & AT cam profiles.

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Not entirely true. IF drag racing is your sole purpose and you modify your TTZ extensively and upgrade your torque converter, etc. then the autos become much easier to drive fast down the 1320 (especially WRT to consistent launching).

But comparing stock 5-spd vs. stock auto TTZs the 5-spd is quicker every time. And all the published test data that was available thru '89 to '96 supports this.

BTW the differences in performance stock vs. stock is due to more than just the transmission. For example, there are differences in the MT & AT cam profiles.



I thought much the same as well, a stock 5 speed would be much quicker as the launch would have the max boost available, however would it be as fast? Buying a TTZ to drag race is probably not your best choice, lots of cheaper cars available with just as must power. You just wouldn't look as good that's all!!

This TTZ has the power and hold switch on the console that I am assuming is meant for adjusting the shift points of the transmission. Can anybody elaborate on the function of this switch!!

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Sinatra
a stock 5 speed would be much quicker as the launch would have the max boost available, however would it be as fast?


How are you defining "fast"?

0-60 and 1/4 mile? The 5-speed is faster/quicker, and that's based on numerous published data that I mentioned earlier.

Top Speed? Well, all TTZ's are governed to 155mph, so for a "stock" car their top speed is essentially the same. But if you are talking ungoverned and modified the automatic TT has the theoretical higher top speed based on differences in gearing. But when you're upwards of 185+ mph, really who cares?

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
How are you defining "fast"?

0-60 and 1/4 mile? The 5-speed is faster/quicker, and that's based on numerous published data that I mentioned earlier.

Top Speed? Well, all TTZ's are governed to 155mph, so for a "stock" car their top speed is essentially the same. But if you are talking ungoverned and modified the automatic TT has the theoretical higher top speed based on differences in gearing. But when you're upwards of 185+ mph, really who cares?


True on the 0-60 and perhaps the quarter but honestly these cars were never designed to go in a straight line. More of a GT type of car, and more honestly just a ton of fun to get in and daily drive.

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by Sinatra
but honestly these cars were never designed to go in a straight line.


That is true, they were never meant as drag cars. But that's not relevant to the question asked which was which is faster between the 5-speed and the auto. I was answering that question.

quote:
More of a GT type of car, and more honestly just a ton of fun to get in and daily drive.


True. And on that note 5-speed >>>> Auto.

ThrillSeeker
I honestly don't think you needed to drop your price that much Sinatra. I've seen fairladys as nice as yours going for over 10 gs easily(saw some on redline imports). Yours is one of the nicest ones I've seen since I started looking at them. If I were in the market for one
I'd give you somewhere around 11 gs for yours, because the fact that it's in such immaculate condition, with pretty damn low km's, those awesome looking wheels on there and not having to worry about needing to put extra money into it to pass OOP, if I were importing, is worth it.

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by ThrillSeeker
I honestly don't think you needed to drop your price that much Sinatra. I've seen fairladys as nice as yours going for over 10 gs easily(saw some on redline imports). Yours is one of the nicest ones I've seen since I started looking at them. If I were in the market for one
I'd give you somewhere around 11 gs for yours, because the fact that it's in such immaculate condition, with pretty damn low km's, those awesome looking wheels on there and not having to worry about needing to put extra money into it to pass OOP, if I were importing, is worth it.



Thanks for the comments. As the season changes into spring I think it may show more interest for sure.

I see a lot of these on Autotrader for 5 grand more and they are not as nice by far. Lots of people want 5 speeds but you can't find a 5 speed in this condition.

780Tuners
UNLESS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS VEHICLE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD - ADMIN

Sinatra
quote:
Originally posted by 780Tuners
UNLESS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS VEHICLE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD - ADMIN


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