| JonJonPoPong |
Im cheap, and i normaly allways go to superstore since you get the most off per L that I can find, but I keep hearing that its bad gas?
So where do most of you fill up? |
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| GQsmooth |
| any cheap gas is most likely watered down....I usually fill up with v-power:thumbup: |
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| crazyrx7 |
If you are that cheap then maybe you shouldn't buy nice cars that require good gas. Should of just bought a pos civic and be done with it.
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by JonJonPoPong
Im cheap, and i normaly allways go to superstore since you get the most off per L that I can find, but I keep hearing that its bad gas?
So where do most of you fill up?
Hi JonJonPoPong,
I normally fill up with Superstore fuel too. I have not experienced any problems with it. I do quite enjoy the $0.075 /L in superbucks that I can then spend in the store. I mainly use the regular 87 Octane for the Avalon, every now and then spoil it with the 91 Octane. With the Supra I always pump in the 91 Octane. On all accounts I am pleased with it.
Mike Nikolai |
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| Honda_Finatic |
| If it was a car i planned on keeping for a long time... i would go Premium all the way. If its something that doesnt require premium or i was going to sell within 1-2 years... i would just stick with the regular. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by Honda_Finatic
If it was a car i planned on keeping for a long time... i would go Premium all the way. If its something that doesnt require premium or i was going to sell within 1-2 years... i would just stick with the regular.
Why ? does premium have more power? What if the manual says regular is fine? |
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| shawley |
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Originally posted by crazyrx7
If you are that cheap then maybe you shouldn't buy nice cars that require good gas. Should of just bought a pos civic and be done with it.
R.K.
he does drive a civic |
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| seevik |
| last year superstore gas froze in really cold temps so id never fill there |
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| ChromeDragon |
Saving money by using fuel that's lower octane than required is not the way to go. All of these gas stations get their fuel from the same refineries, but depending on the actual station the trucks are loading for you get different additive packages.
These companies DO NOT water their fuel down. That's the stupidest thing that I've ever heard. Why would they chance losing millions in lawsuits and just customers in general because they would be creating substandard fuel. Give your head a shake GQsmooth.
If there are different additive packages that work better for your car at certain stations, then use those stations.
Here are a couple of tips. Find out when your regular gas station receives their fuel deliveries. Once you know, do not fuel up there until at least 24 hours after the delivery is complete. Though the fuel being transferred is usually quite clean, there are silt deposits that build up over time and when they pump the new fuel into the underground storage tanks the silt can be disturbed and may take a while to settle. They do have filters to catch this stuff, but even the filters are not 100 per cent.
Also, it is actually better to use stations that are newer as, again, there is silt build up, and usually a newer station will have less as it takes time for the silt to accumulate.
If your car asks for 91 octane or higher, give it 91 octane or higher. If your car asks for 87 octane, use 87 octane. The extra octane may actually cost you mileage. The higher octane fuel doesn't clean your fuel system or provide any adverse benefits outside of the fact that less people use premium so the tanks may have less silt build up as they are not filled as often. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
K, I know this is a bad comparision but... my first car was a 82 LADA 4spd 1.5L car.
With mohawk, husky, petro, esso, etc, my milage was about the same, but top speed was 100km/h peddle tot he metal, shoved throught the floor. didn't matter regular or premium... Superstore regular top speed was still 100km/h but for some reason to which I dunno, if I used superstore premium my top speed was 110km/h. These are sustained top speeds, I hit the highway, nail the peddle to the floor and that is the speed I would go.
I used to get my fuel at the Superstore on 137ave and like 130st. I don't think I put superstore gas in any of my vehicles since, and this was back in early 98.
Just some observations. |
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| Nightstalker |
The fact that you guys make a big deal about a couple cents differance in gas makes me laugh my ass off. I AM SAVING 3 CENTS A LITER YO!.. Well I guess if 3 cents is really going to break the bank maybe you shouldn't really be interested in tuning your car because its going to end up costing you a fuckload of money you don't have to begin with.
End Rant.
My cars are filled at Petrocan and Shell. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
K, I know this is a bad comparision but... my first car was a 82 LADA 4spd 1.5L car.
With mohawk, husky, petro, esso, etc, my milage was about the same, but top speed was 100km/h peddle tot he metal, shoved throught the floor. didn't matter regular or premium... Superstore regular top speed was still 100km/h but for some reason to which I dunno, if I used superstore premium my top speed was 110km/h. These are sustained top speeds, I hit the highway, nail the peddle to the floor and that is the speed I would go.
I used to get my fuel at the Superstore on 137ave and like 130st. I don't think I put superstore gas in any of my vehicles since, and this was back in early 98.
Just some observations.
It's in your head ... there is no extra 'power' in premium fuel. |
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| Nightstalker |
| It does allow for higher compression and / or more boost. Without changing one of those things it won't change a thing. If your car is really highly tuned it could actully run worse if your running 91 and its tuned for 87. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
It does allow for higher compression and / or more boost. Without changing one of those things it won't change a thing.
Exactly .. it allowes you to add more air and fuel becuase it resists detonation ...
Why is it that it is always a noob with these octane questions ... maybe there should be a thread they have to read and answer questions before they can read the rest of the board |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by mwdguy
It's in your head ... there is no extra 'power' in premium fuel.
How is it in my head? I never said more power, I said based of my spedometer my sustained top speed was higher....
I can't remember what the recommended fuel was for that car was either, all i remember is it was a very confused car, the manual said "LADA an all Canadian Car company" the suspension was actually made by porche, the glass all said made in Italy, who knows what else in that car was from porche....
But really.. I dunno how an extra 10km/h on the speedo could be in my head unless that everytime i got 91 octane, and only when I got 91 octane I lucked out and got a tail wind, but never had a tail wind when I was using 87 octane. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
How is it in my head? I never said more power, I said based of my spedometer my sustained top speed was higher....
I can't remember what the recommended fuel was for that car was either, all i remember is it was a very confused car, the manual said "LADA an all Canadian Car company" the suspension was actually made by porche, the glass all said made in Italy, who knows what else in that car was from porche....
But really.. I dunno how an extra 10km/h on the speedo could be in my head unless that everytime i got 91 octane, and only when I got 91 octane I lucked out and got a tail wind, but never had a tail wind when I was using 87 octane.
Then maybe you can explain how an increase in octane would affect a non computer controlled car with a carb? |
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| S2KPWR |
I filled up at 7-11 once, and my car was stalling when I came to a stop.. Figured something was wrong with the car.
once I filled up at petro, the car was fine.. Regardless if this was coincidence, I still wont fill up at cheap gas stations anymore. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by mwdguy
Then maybe you can explain how an increase in octane would affect a non computer controlled car with a carb?
Be damned if I know... like I said, all I know is sustained top speed was higher....
perhaps as said earilier by somebody else there was an additive difference between 87 and 91, like Petro has their clean burn or whatever crap in the higher octanes, but not the lower.. that made the difference |
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| rythex |
I thought I heard Superstore 91 octane was actually 93 ?
I never heard Superstore gas was bad yet......... :dunno: |
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| Nightstalker |
| I think not, unless they are just buying from Esso. event then its around 92, not 93.. not that a change in 1 in really going to make a differance in even a tuned street engine. Last time I checked none of us drive F1 cars around on a regular basis. |
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| stevemo600 |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Saving money by using fuel that's lower octane than required is not the way to go. All of these gas stations get their fuel from the same refineries, but depending on the actual station the trucks are loading for you get different additive packages.
These companies DO NOT water their fuel down. That's the stupidest thing that I've ever heard. Why would they chance losing millions in lawsuits and just customers in general because they would be creating substandard fuel. Give your head a shake GQsmooth.
If there are different additive packages that work better for your car at certain stations, then use those stations.
Here are a couple of tips. Find out when your regular gas station receives their fuel deliveries. Once you know, do not fuel up there until at least 24 hours after the delivery is complete. Though the fuel being transferred is usually quite clean, there are silt deposits that build up over time and when they pump the new fuel into the underground storage tanks the silt can be disturbed and may take a while to settle. They do have filters to catch this stuff, but even the filters are not 100 per cent.
Also, it is actually better to use stations that are newer as, again, there is silt build up, and usually a newer station will have less as it takes time for the silt to accumulate.
If your car asks for 91 octane or higher, give it 91 octane or higher. If your car asks for 87 octane, use 87 octane. The extra octane may actually cost you mileage. The higher octane fuel doesn't clean your fuel system or provide any adverse benefits outside of the fact that less people use premium so the tanks may have less silt build up as they are not filled as often.
This is by the far the best and most truthful post in this thread. A higher octane will not help your car if it only requires 87 and absolutely NO station would water down their fuel...EVER. That's absolutely ridiculous and firms are smarter than that.
SuperStore gas is fine and the grocery money is nice, 7-11 gas is fine if you want your big buck.
Go where you please and put the right octane fuel in your vehicle as recommended by the manufacturer. If you're too much of a cheap ass to put premium in you car when it's recommended (which is really only a difference of a few bucks) then you're not driving the right car. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
7-11s, well most are Esso.
I got a bad tank of fuel from an Petro once, i was darn near empty, and I filled up, next morning my tank was froze, kept popping fuel pump fuses, I had to put a heater under the car, put in 4 gas line antifreeze, 3L of Mohawk premium(for the ethanol)got it to run, then kept the idle at 1600 rpm for 8 hours, then all was good.
My car for what reason I dunno is supposed to get 91, but the manual says 87 should be fine. |
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| Nightstalker |
| I think you like to think your neon needs 91.. It doesn't. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
I think you like to think your neon needs 91.. It doesn't.
I agree |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by Nightstalker
I think you like to think your neon needs 91.. It doesn't.
I was talking about my fifth ave, the 318 V8. On the filler door it says premium recommended
The neon it says 91, as well, it's an R/T, for maximum performance it does. The Neon will retard timing when running on 87 octane, normally I put midgrade in the neon. The funny part is the R/T has a bigger exhaust stock than a SRT4 |
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| Shady_Pro |
| ill stick to my 94 husky...cost more but i get better mileage so it balances out |
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| Buddyworm |
Gas is gas. It all comes from the same refineries. The only difference is the additives and they don't do a whole hell of a lot anyway. Octane is really all you need to be worrying about.
B-Wurm :D |
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| ChromeDragon |
| I just re-read the title of the post and I'm going to have to agree with the poster now. Superstore gas would be really bad for you, but if you're drinking gas then I think you might have some other problems to deal with than your car.:p |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Gah, stupid slow work comps. |
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