| Exhaust system/sound - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| siopao |
| which exhaust/muffler system is the best out there? best performance/brand??? best sound??? (preferably a deep firm tone) |
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| test |
Depends on which car I guess. For Civics I would recommend:<p>- Apexi Dunk
- Apexi N1
- 5Zigen Fireball<p>Those will definately give you a nice throaty tone. they're not cheap though. |
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Other things to consider...<p>- what other mods do you have? If you run or plan on a turbo then you need a much larger diameter pipe.
- Low end torque, NA cars like a bit of backpressure. Many aftermarket mufflers take the low end out of cars and move it to the top. You may see your max hp gain, but you'll lose some down low.
- Quite honestly, the biggest difference from an exhaust upgrade is from the sound, not the power. You may think its faster but really, can you feel max 5 hp at such a narrow rpm band?
- Watch out for systems that drone at certain RPM's
- Sometime cheap knock off exhaust systems will blow out the glass from the mufflers. It will sound horrible after that.
- your cat will also effect the sound. Will you be running one? |
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| siopao |
| thinking about replacing the whole cat-back... i dunno how pricey it will get tho... |
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from siopao on 10:27 am on Aug. 3, 2001
thinking about replacing the whole cat-back... i dunno how pricey it will get tho... [/b][/quote]<p>What car are you talking about? That would be a good start. Obviously you'd have a different set up from a Mustang than a Civic. |
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| Genki |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from siopao on 10:47 pm on Aug. 2, 2001
which exhaust/muffler system is the best out there? best performance/brand??? best sound??? (preferably a deep firm tone)
[/b][/quote]<p>Well like GAPS mentioned.. really depends on the car. So what car specifically would hte exhasut be put onto?<p>I know that the SLP Loudmouth exhasut is the deepest sounding exhaust available for a GrandPrix. With this thing on your car sounds like a v8! No joke.<p> |
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| siopao |
oh.. so sorry... kinda got confused there for a sec...
the car i want it installed in is a 5th gen prelude... got any suggestions? |
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| smooth |
| My favorite has to be the Mugen. <p>check this out:<p>http://www.alltel.net/~gg95948/clips/Mugen1.wav <p>Its nice and mellow, but deep during idle, but once you rev it, it screams! |
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| siopao |
| mugen... yeah those are good... but costs so much... |
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| Luong98 |
| Ya, Mugen would be the best. If you got the cash I would highly recommend to get it. I dont usually favor Mugen too much, because I think they are over priced. Unless you are planning on going FI I would get the Mugen exhaust and header. Jackson Racing have a design similar to the double loop of the Mugen exhaust. I dont know if they make it for the BB6 or even if they are any good.<p>Otherwise, any brand name exhaust gives out pretty much the same horse power rating. It just depends on your style and sound you want. I like the Tanabe G-Power. The Apex-i RS is probably one of the quitier ones. Any of the straight pipe will give out a loud sound, like Apex-i N1, Tanabe Racing Medalion, and 5Zigen Fireball. |
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| brandon |
| Does anyone know what it lops back? Sounds like an exercise in restriction.<p> |
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| Luong98 |
| Check out www.kingmotorsports.com .There's a diagram. The double loop dampers sound vibration that most catback usually creates. I dont know exactly the dynamics behind it, but amazingly the Mugen exhaust produces the most power compared to most other aftermarket exhaust.<p>(Edited by Luong98 at 12:48 pm on Aug. 10, 2001) |
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| REFLUX |
lol well pabs dont xpect xhaust sytems 2 b cheap man
if u want a nice one @ that it'll cost u close 2 1g including installation...maybe
i'm lookin @ HKS/GReddy type exhaust systems
those run about...900$ CDN?
that has no tax and is without install |
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| REFLUX |
oh another thing pabs, i was talkin 2 marcus 2nite, i was rite, ur lude does have 3 cats
if u were 2 replace the entire system (getting rid of ALL stock cats) i'm pretty sure u'd get @ least 35HP???
oh & bout the posts about losing low end HP, wat kind of systems would help in low end?
like off the line acceleration? |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from REFLUX on 2<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->0 am on Aug. 11, 2001
oh another thing pabs, i was talkin 2 marcus 2nite, i was rite, ur lude does have 3 cats
if u were 2 replace the entire system (getting rid of ALL stock cats) i'm pretty sure u'd get @ least 35HP???
oh & bout the posts about losing low end HP, wat kind of systems would help in low end?
like off the line acceleration?[/b][/quote]<p>35hp from a catback exhaust? You're jokin' right? You'd be lucky to get 3-4hp. It's alot harder to get power out of Japanese cars, than say Camaro's/Vettes.<p>I paid 邃 installed, tax in for my Greddy exhaust. Felt a difference, but it's not a night and day difference.<p>How much are you willing to spend? Just remember, you get what you pay for.:) |
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| siopao |
| spend possibly around 񘋰..<p>i also heard the apexi N1's are great... what's your guys' input on that? |
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| N1 exhaust is great, but it also has great sound, it's too loud in my opinion, but if you don't mind that, then it's fine. I know guys that have to wear earplugs just to tolerate the sound on long trips. |
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| siopao |
| really ####.. is there anyway to "dampen" the sound? |
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| icon |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from RX AGENT on 12:23 pm on Aug. 14, 2001
N1 exhaust is great, but it also has great sound, it's too loud in my opinion, but if you don't mind that, then it's fine. _I know guys that have to wear earplugs just to tolerate the sound on long trips.
[/b][/quote]<p>No kidding. Nothing worst than a car with loud exhaust. I don't care if its a 12 sec Honda, it's just #### rude to have a loud exhaust. Couple of Celica's and stangs at the import challenge were stupid loud.<p>(Edited by icon at 1:23 pm on Aug. 14, 2001) |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from siopao on 11:40 am on Aug. 14, 2001
spend possibly around 񘋰..<p>i also heard the apexi N1's are great... what's your guys' input on that?
[/b][/quote]<p>The N1 is great, although I don't know if there will be any 'rubbing' if your car is lowered, since the exhaust does sit a bit on the low side.<p>It is sorta loud, but it wont kill your eardrums.:) Just get a silencer if you want to cut down on the noise.<p>If you like that particular 'N1' style, check out the 5Zigen Fireball and Tanabe Racing Medallion.<p>I'm pretty sure you can get the full exhaust and silencer with your budget.<p>Good luck. |
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| siopao |
| i was talking to my friend and he told me that the 5zigen fireball isn't that great... i wouldn't really know tho. |
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| CRXguy |
| It's all about preference really. Just go with whatever you like best. |
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| Luong98 |
| Siopao I have a the Prelude as well. Dont get the Fireball. It's crap. You wont gain alot. |
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| siopao |
| hmmm.. n1's i heard were good.. gotta read up on DCsports and possibly a GReddy... <p>luong: what exhaust system u have installed? |
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| wazzup |
| I'm running an RSR exhaust system on my 98 civic HB. _It's got a nice deep tone to it, not to loud tho. |
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| Too bad Racing Beat stopped importing RSR products into the states. |
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| CRXguy |
| I'd highly recommend the Greddy......they are quiet during idle and during normal driving. It's only loud when you get on the throttle, which is why I got it. So cops don't harass you and shit like that. |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from RX AGENT on 4:24 pm on Aug. 14, 2001
Too bad Racing Beat stopped importing RSR products into the states.
[/b][/quote]<p>I got quoted 连 for an RSR catback in January, when I was shoppin' around. Don't know if the guy still carries it though. |
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| CRX Guy, who is this guy that imports RSR products? If you still have the number/e-mail, I would like to contact him/her. |
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| wazzup |
| ask toby at racing zone, he's running RSR headers and exhaust on his b16. |
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| siopao |
| did racing zone re-locate? and besides toby is my friends uncle ahahha (don't ask why i just said that) |
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| wazzup |
| yea it's on 10565-111st |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from RX AGENT on 1:10 am on Aug. 15, 2001
CRX Guy, who is this guy that imports RSR products? _If you still have the number/e-mail, I would like to contact him/her.
[/b][/quote]<p>The number is (403)250-3775, and talk to John. |
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| <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from CRXguy on 4:12 pm on Aug. 15, 2001The number is (403)250-3775, and talk to John.[/b][/quote]<p>Thanks |
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| siopao |
| i thought it just closed down due to "illegal activities" hehe i guess i was wrong... <p>and yeah, thanks |
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| CRXguy |
| is Racing Zone a good shop to shop at? I might check it out when I'm up there next week. |
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| siopao |
| racing zone is ok... but u just gotta watch out.. they MIGHT charge you extra for some stuff.. just a word of advice |
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| sailoru |
| Ractive all the way baby! |
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| siopao |
| ahahah.. hmm whatever. hehe |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
| If you guys want good prices on equipment and you don;t already have a good deal hooked up somewhere else then try Pro Drag performance and talk to Fred. Its really hard to beat the prices there. I've checked around for prices for a couple of things and Freds got the best for all of them. if you're intrested Email me. |
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