| turbomike |
Would any one like to spend a day or two on the track at stratotech park...
We could run solo type events...
The track rental is $3000.00 but we may be able to work around this... |
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| SRBURG13 |
| Ummmm, where is this park? |
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| JDC™ |
so is that 3000 a day, and how long is that exactly (hours?)?
and about when would you want this to happen...like summer? |
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| darkman |
| If it's the right place I'm thinking of, yes it is $3000/day. So if we can have 15 people interested in going, that'll bring it down to $200/person. Not bad at all! I think this place is like 15 mins north of Edmonton...it's suppose to be a high performance go kart track. Anyone know more info? |
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| 1mns13 |
| That is a great track for bikes, but I don't think there is room for street cars in all the corners. The straights are not exactly wide either. I never noticed they would even allow passenger cars on their track. |
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| MrHeavyFoot |
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Originally posted by darkman@Mar 4 2003, 07:53 PM
If it's the right place I'm thinking of, yes it is $3000/day. So if we can have 15 people interested in going, that'll bring it down to $200/person. Not bad at all! I think this place is like 15 mins north of Edmonton...it's suppose to be a high performance go kart track. Anyone know more info?
Related discussion.....
Other Thread
Stratotech web site....
http://www.stratotechboyz.com/ |
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| Spike7ss |
| Statotech is north of Fort Saskachewan, and you can fit 4 go karts wide down the straights |
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| Spike7ss |
Stratotech Park International Raceway (SPIR) is a complete facility for Super-Bikes, Motards, Go Karts, Shifter Karts, Rotax RM1 and Formula Arcobaleno!
looks like no street vehicles |
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| JDC™ |
quote:
Originally posted by Spike7ss@Mar 4 2003, 08:11 PM
Stratotech Park International Raceway (SPIR) is a complete facility for Super-Bikes, Motards, Go Karts, Shifter Karts, Rotax RM1 and Formula Arcobaleno!
looks like no street vehicles
ghey :thumbsdown: |
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| uncle ben |
| I'd go, but i hope the tracks not too narrow, cause i dont want to hit the rubarbe if i screw up....which i will. |
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| schlong8 |
I heard that they wouldn't allow the street cars on their either. B/c it would wreck the track b/c of the "excessive" weight of the street car compared to the go karts and formula fords etc.
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| uncle ben |
| then i'm a no go |
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| MrHeavyFoot |
quote:
Originally posted by schlong8@Mar 4 2003, 08:46 PM
I heard that they wouldn't allow the street cars on their either. B/c it would wreck the track b/c of the "excessive" weight of the street car compared to the go karts and formula fords etc.
C
Well, apparently it has been done (if you read the other thread) and it sounds like they don't have any objections to that any more... or at least, not as many objections. Maybe there will be some upper limit on vehicle weight though. |
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| EclipseGSX |
| that would destroy my body kit if I lost it |
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| uncle ben |
[QUOTE]Well, apparently it has been done (if you read the other thread) and it sounds like they don't have any objections to that any more... or at least, not as many objections. Maybe there will be some upper limit on vehicle weight though.
Any idea of how wide this track is, ie. if i loose it, will i be picking grass outa my grill? |
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| PunkA$$ |
| hey peoples, i will be talking to the people at stratotech and have already started planning something for this summer. i'll make a formal announcement by the end of the week |
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| redbaron303 |
| Hey Al, I'm up for this event... It beats the hell out of calgary for a track day.... |
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| ChromeDragon |
I spoke with the guys at Stratotech about this last year, they are willing to do it if there are people willing to pay for the track days. Honestly I think you should get more than 15 people, 30 people would probably be better. That way you make sure that you use all the time you have and everyone will still be able to get in quite a few laps.
As for the track, he says that they packed the whole thing in expectation for having street cars run the track, so it can hold the weight. As for width, it is 10m(30') the whole length of the track, straights and corners, so it's plenty wide for cars, even passing if they allow several cars on the track at the same time.(Please keep in mind that this is just what I was told at the motorshow last year, they may have changed their minds since)
He had no rules layed out for any of it when I spoke with him, but I guess nobody ever set a day up last year. Maybe someone can get ahold of them and try to set something up? Chances are you'll want to book soon, they are becoming more and more popular for bikers and karters.
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| Apexparts |
Last time I talked to them they said there was a weight limit of 1200lbs or so.
And if I remember correctly their costs to use the proper concrete for street cars would have tripled their costs to build the facility. |
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| PunkA$$ |
just a preview as to what i have in mind:
i was thinking of having 45 people sign up, so that splits into 3 groups of 15
i want to run it more as a driving school rather than a racing event. this way we also attract some of novices to come out. i really want to give those who've never tried a taste of a real race course. also, this gives us a chance to see just how good their facilities at stratotech really are
are track rental would include instructors, track officials, and transponders that are place in our cars which would allow timed laps. and we would have use of the track basically from sun up to sun down
i will also be looking into insurance should we need any
and if people are willing to pay $5-$15 extra per person i was even thinking of having a hot lunch catered out at stratotech
i'll work out more specifics as soon as possible to give people alot of time to prepare and what not |
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| SilverZ24 |
| I am definitely up for anything planned out there this summer. The company I work for is a sponsor this year and last week we just ordered a shifter cart. So I will obviously be there because I get free use of the cart! :P |
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| got_ae86 |
I'd be in on this. We need more events like this, whoever is holding it. We need to support the scene so I suggest people jump on this. Let me know when/where we sign up.
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| KAOS41 |
| I'm in for this type of event. Punka$$ if you need some help just drop me a line . |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| I'm also up for it and no offence but if you can't keep your car on a 10m wide track then you can't keep it in one lane on a road! Those are only 3 m wide or so... 3.5..... 10 m is about 2 1/2-3 lanes wide and you wouldn't be zippin more then 70 I imagine so if you can't handle that you shouldn't be driving :P There are lots of conflicting answers though as to whether or not street cars are even allowed on there... can someone give me a clear answer i.e asked them within the past week.. please |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by SilverZ24@Mar 5 2003, 04:23 PM
I am definitely up for anything planned out there this summer. The company I work for is a sponsor this year and last week we just ordered a shifter cart. So I will obviously be there because I get free use of the cart! :P
how much did u guys pay for the kart? |
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| SilverZ24 |
| I haven't seen the final bill yet, but it will be somewhere between 11 and 12 grand. That is a 2 speed shifter cart with a top speed somewhere around 130-140km/h. |
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| 1mns13 |
I spoke to Derek Pogany from stratotech. He will be preparing a package of info for street cars and I should see an email asap.
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| luv'n my 7 |
i believe this was brought up at the rx7 club meeting last night and they were saying something along the line of using a "rental" car of some sort. Not a rental up by at HERTZ but a car they provide. correct me if im wrong!
I'ed be down with it, but only if i get a chance to drive my 7 on the track! |
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| 1mns13 |
| Is anybody interested in no passing event? Not even on the straights. |
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| SilverZ24 |
| In my mind that is probably the best. My biggest fear going there is that some dumbass would hit my car and there would be nothing I could do because I signed a waiver before I started. :angry: |
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| WookeysRX7 |
That would be scary as hell having people all with different driving skills and some people hauling ass down a straight away and then some gomer in the corner doing 2mph what the hell is the guy thats haulin ass suppose to do? or if we have some houligan out there that has no skill in driving and can't brake fast enough and smokes a guy in the corner?
IMO it should be like a solo event! or have 1 person driving at the one end of the track and then another person on the other end if you know what i mean.
The Wook B) a.k.a The Leprchaun :blink: |
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| H22_TURBO |
| 1 person at a time, i'd be up for it! |
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| JDC™ |
| ya, one person at a time makes alot more sense, and Im guessing that's how they already run it. Time trial style. |
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| 1mns13 |
| I suppose a time trial idea could have merit and would improve our skill. I suppose my banged up car doesn't make me nervous about bumps. |
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| schlong8 |
PunkA$$: Talk to Conroy and Richard @ the RX7 club. They have the ability to run this sort of event. They qualify for this type of insurance and they already did something similar for the RallyX at Bud Park. Which was basically a dirt road course.
Ideally, depending on how large the track is.....you could fit maybe 2 cars at a time w/ a staggered start. At the RallyX, we ran, at most, 4 cars at a time on a staggered start and we rarely had people passing each other. Of course there was the few occasions when i passed a spun car......but that's what the yellow flags are for.
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| PunkA$$ |
quote:
Originally posted by schlong8@Mar 5 2003, 08:44 PM
PunkA$$: Talk to Conroy and Richard @ the RX7 club.
dude
i'm already one step ahead of you. met with them last night and had some great input from richard, conroy and the rest of the rx7 guys
as well, if we go less people on the track at one time, we might have to cut the number of people allowed to the event to allow everybody more runs. i was also thinking of a no passing in the corners stipulation and any dangerous driving/track officials have the power to boot you off w/out a refund |
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| Apexparts |
If you can get an event set up, you can count on me being there. :D
There is nothing like a track day.
:)
Although, passing on the straights should be allowed, as faster cars/drivers get frustrated if they get stuck behind others all day long. It also hinders ones learning if they are forced to go at the slower pace. |
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| redbaron303 |
quote:
Originally posted by PunkA$$@Mar 5 2003, 09:03 AM
just a preview as to what i have in mind:
i was thinking of having 45 people sign up, so that splits into 3 groups of 15
i want to run it more as a driving school rather than a racing event. this way we also attract some of novices to come out. i really want to give those who've never tried a taste of a real race course. also, this gives us a chance to see just how good their facilities at stratotech really are
are track rental would include instructors, track officials, and transponders that are place in our cars which would allow timed laps. and we would have use of the track basically from sun up to sun down
i will also be looking into insurance should we need any
and if people are willing to pay $5-$15 extra per person i was even thinking of having a hot lunch catered out at stratotech
i'll work out more specifics as soon as possible to give people alot of time to prepare and what not
Still game for the event Al. :bigthumbup:
OH and I agree with Apexparts comment, I know that's how a few other clubs do it... passing only on the straights, slower cars pull to the right.... |
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| PunkA$$ |
| ooops, sorry, i guess i shoulda made myself clearer, but yes, i was thinking of no passing in the corners, straights only, and absolutely no blocking |
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| JDC™ |
| k..so is there gonna be a total amount of people able to come, or is it the more the merrier type dealy. |
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| PunkA$$ |
i'm still waiting for a reply from derek pogany
but, it will have to be a trade off. more people, less track time for individuals. less people, more track time but more money |
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| MightyMidget |
i'd be in for a day of that shnizat....
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| REFLUX |
i am so totally in
i would prefer to have LESS ppl & pay more, especially if they are only gonna allow 1 or 2 cars on the track at a time
if multiple cars are allowed on the track then
30 people sounds like the most ideal & maximum amount, $100/person
2 groups of 15 or 3 groups of 10 (2 of 15 would be better)
Keep us posted Al, i already got a deposit waiting for yah ;) (however much it'll cost :bigthumbup: ) |
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| darkman |
| Since it's local, I'm definitely in! B) |
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| SRBURG13 |
I'm in. The SR needs a good work in. ;) Yeah, just think of the width of the track as something along the lines of Groat Road, except about half a lane wider. If you can't hold that, don't come. :D
Anyhow, keep us all informed. I'm in.
PEACE |
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| Almost |
Any idea what month your aiming for?
I don't need exact dates or anything, just a ballpark on the month so I know if I should set aside some cash before i blow it all on my engine swap... |
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| bunch |
| I'd be in :bigthumbup: |
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| CanadianR |
| Sounds pretty cool to me, I'd be in as well. I've never been on a track before but was planning on going to Calgary anyways this summer to the track. It would be really cool to be able to go just outside Edmonton instead of three hours each way and a 1000k round trip to see a road course. As long as i can feel there's pretty much no chance of someone running into my car it sounds great, I like the time trial idea. |
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| schlong8 |
quote:
Originally posted by Apexparts@Mar 5 2003, 02:53 PM
Although, passing on the straights should be allowed, as faster cars/drivers get frustrated if they get stuck behind others all day long. It also hinders ones learning if they are forced to go at the slower pace.
This will only work if people OBEY the track officials. The last Beyond track day i heard was a freakin' gong-show b/c people didn't know that a blue flag meant.
If people come, they have to be responsible and not screw around. Or else the officials should give them the boot, no questions asked. We've already had some incidents last year where some trouble occurred b/c of some stupid people being cocky and irresponsible.
If your going to come out to these sorta events, DO NOT come w/ an attitude or ego. |
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| KAOS41 |
| count me in :bigthumbup: |
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| Spike7ss |
| Blue means someone is coming up behind you and you should move to the right to allow to pass, or something like that, i still like the meatball flag, and the black flag is even better, as long as it isnt being waved or pionted at you! :P |
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| MightyMidget |
i'd be in too.....it would be fun and really hard on the cars but what are the cars for.....driving like grammas on the street....BORING :thefinger: ......I definitely need to do my rear drum to disk swap this summer :angry:
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| Apexparts |
| See below for full listing/meaning |
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| Apexparts |
For those interested in Flags and their meanings I thought I would post a list here. (It is very important that those who wish to go to the track know these flags)
GREEN FLAG
Go!
The green flag is waved by the starter to indicate the beginning of a race, qualifying or practice session. It is waved after a caution to tell the drivers that the race has been restarted. The green flag also is an indication that the course is clear of any obstacles or debris.
YELLOW FLAG
Caution
The yellow flag is the signal for caution. When it is held stationary it is an indication that there is a problem ahead. Drivers must slow and refrain from passing. A waving yellow flag indicates immediate danger ahead. Drivers must be prepared to stop and cannot pass, although they can close the distance to the car immediately in front. Yellow flags can indicate problems in one area of a track when waved by only one or two cornerworkers. A "full course caution" (or yellow) is when all flags around the track are being waved. This is initiated by the starter. Passing under the yellow is a serious infraction and drivers may be severely punished. When a driver is penalized for passing under yellow it is often a controversial call and may be appealed.
RED FLAG
Stop!
When a race is "red flagged" it is stopped due to some condition that has made the track unraceable. These conditions can range from weather problems to accidents to surface problems such as oil on the track. A red flag often means the track has been completely blocked by an accident or debris and there is no safe route through the problem. The red flag generally is preceded by waving yellow flags. As soon as a red flag is shown, drivers must come to a stop as quickly and safely as possible. Each series has different rules on what drivers and teams can do during a red flag stop and how the restart is handled.
WHITE FLAG
Last Lap
When waved by the starter the white flag indicates that a driver is entering the last lap of practice, qualifying or a race. It is waved continuously to all cars following the leader until the leader approaches the finish line. In some areas the white flag is used by cornerworkers to indicate an ambulance or slow moving vehicle on the track. To avoid confusion, some tracks use a white flag with red cross to indicate an ambulance is on the track or needed.
CHECKERED FLAG
Finish Line
One of the most familiar symbols worldwide, the checkered flag says "racing!" It is waved by the starter to indicate the finish of the race or practice session. The checkered flag is waved for all finishers. The race winner usually collects a checkered flag for a victory lap around the track. In many race series the checkered flag has the race logo embroidered on the flag and it is given to the winner as a memento.
BLACK FLAG
(Infraction)
Drivers hate being "black flagged" because it always means bad news. While the use of the black flag and the black/orange flag can vary between series, the all-black flag generally means that there has been an infraction. The driver must bring the car to the pits on the next lap. The flag is displayed along with a pit board listing the driver's car number. Drivers sometimes ignore a black flag. Doing so can result in severe penalties, including disqualification and loss of points.
BLACK FLAG
(Mechanical)
As with the black flag for infractions, the black flag with orange circle means the driver must bring the car to the pits on the next lap. This flag indicates there is a serious mechanical problem with the car that can endanger the driver or others. Ignoring this black flag can bring severe penalties as it represents a dangerous situation.
BLACK/WHITE FLAG
Unsportsmanlike Conduct
The black and white flag is used in some series to indicate unsportsmanlike conduct. This is typically held motionless next to a pit board with the car number on it. The driver may be penalized when this flag is shown.
BLUE FLAG
Passing and Overtaking
The blue or passing flag has different meanings depending on how it is held and whether it is used during practice, qualifying or racing. Generally when it is held motionless it is an indication to a driver that there is a faster car following closely behind, but not yet close enough for a pass. A waving flag generally indicates that the driver is about to be overtaken and should take care to permit the following vehicle a safe pass. Some drivers resist moving over for an over-taking car when they feel they are racing for position. Controversy can follow the use of the passing flag. Some series use a blue flag with a diagonal yellow stripe.
YELLOW/RED FLAG
Surface Problem
Often called an "oil flag", this indicates there is a problem with, or change in, the surface ahead. This commonly means there is oil on the track. It also can mean water or another substance causing a change in the racing surface. The number of stripes on this flag varies (some are yellow with two red stripes) but the meaning remains the same.
Thanks to about.com for the full listing and pics. |
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| PunkA$$ |
just a quick update.
meeting with stratotech hopefully next thursday. i will probably have a meeting for those who are interested that sunday (march 16) at fast tracks. just to give information as to what's happening, how much, and do some go-kart racing
when the time comes, i'll make a formal post in the events section |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by PunkA$$@Mar 7 2003, 02:05 PM
when the time comes, i'll make a formal post in the events section
good :) |
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| JDC™ |
alright....
post details, such as the amount of max people being invited, any car regulations need as well... |
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| turbomike |
MAN O MAN DID THIS TOPIC GET PEOPLE GOING...
I was at the auto show...
I talked to the strato boys, it looks good...
I think we should run it like the rally cross at bud park...
if a few guys want to race say 4 at a time that would probably work...
but even with 30 cars we could run 4 or 5 laps.
the track is great ... |
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| turbomike |
P.S. DRAG RACING IS FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T DRIVE...
Put COLIN Mc RAE IN A DRAG CAR HE WOULD DO OK...
PUT KENNY BERNSTINE IN A RALLY CAR HE WOULD HIT A TREE...
...........RALLY RULES.........
JUST GOT MY NEW TURBO SPRINT... |
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