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| matrix_xrs |
full time 40 hr a week fully ticketed mechanic with fabrication skills?
How many can build a turbo system from scratch including welding , tuning and fully ticketed mechanical install?
How many can fabricate a turbo manifold by hand that won't crack?
How many can properly assemble a HP engine using a ticketed mechanic.
How many can do in house alignments after a drop?
How many can run a in house engine diagnostic?
How many of them can rebuild a tranny that will work?
I need shop that can do all these in house without farming anything out so the job stays under full control at one place so there are no suprises.
Please don't mention any shops that can't do it all , I just need the name that can so I can look into it.
Thanks
Soon to be a rippin XRS.
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| redbaron303 |
| A place in Calgary can from what I've heard.... damn I forget the name.... it's on 32nd I believe...? RPM racing I believe it's called, they also just had a small engineering firm move in w/ them... they said they do it all there! |
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| matrix_xrs |
| What about local that won't mind me dropping in every week as I like to keep a eye on things since its going to be a big job. :) |
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| ManHunter |
You're kidding right? You think we have a shop like that in town? This is not socal... yet. Let me know when you find one, I wanna see them too.
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by matrix_xrs@Mar 9 2003, 01:31 PM
full time 40 hr a week fully ticketed mechanic with fabrication skills?
How many can build a turbo system from scratch including welding , tuning and fully ticketed mechanical install?
How many can fabricate a turbo manifold by hand that won't crack?
How many can properly assemble a HP engine using a ticketed mechanic.
How many can do in house alignments after a drop?
How many can run a in house engine diagnostic?
How many of them can rebuild a tranny that will work?
I need shop that can do all these in house without farming anything out so the job stays under full control at one place so there are no suprises.
Please don't mention any shops that can't do it all , I just need the name that can so I can look into it.
Thanks
Soon to be a rippin XRS.
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You have just described Pro Drag Performance.
Two licensed mechanic's on duty 40 hours a week.
Two hoists, plus an alignment rack.
Multiple custom turbo system installs under our belt. In house fabrication of manifolds, turbo and intake.
Mutiple high performance engine's currently in use around the city and around the continent.
In house diagnostics machines.
Edmonton's only authorized Dealer/Tuner for AEM and Hondata Engine Management Systems.
Dyno tuning service utilizing Stew's Dyno, the FIRST dyno in the city to offer tuning with wideband a/f, boost, and fuel pressure analyzer's. Dyno can accurately measure 900 HP at up to 150 MPH. The ONLY choice for the descriminating dyno tuner. |
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| Nightstalker |
| you sure like to boost your shop pearly.. |
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| v8slayer |
| They do good work there , why not? :bigthumbup: |
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| ManHunter |
Are you saying you are now an AEM EMS tuner, Pearly? I'll show up at your shop whenever I can drive my car there. You better be good. :)
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| THEONE |
| The proof of a performance shop is in the pudding! What have they produced as far as nice cars, and when comparing, compare apples to apples! Everyone is a "tuning" shop until they have to prove it! |
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| redbaron303 |
Let's not get into this Proof deal again, it'll just start a pissing contest between all the shops on the board!
Yes, I agree that seeing the work they've done is important but the people that are the best in the city are the ones you can afford and trust! I haven't seen very many pieces by any shop in this city that I truely like, I feel there are some good shops in Calgary but that's about it...
Mao with the Supra is "sponosred" (by my understanding) with Contemporary motorsports and I presume they did the work to his car too?!
Place #2&3 are DSM's and I don't know those guys at all or their cars so they'll have to say who did them....
#4 Jack w/ the FD rx7 TT I believe has done his piece work through rx7 club and other places he trusts...
Basically I would be talking to those guys right now IF I was looking to see who I wanted to build my car. I mean they're only the 4 fastest imports from last summer that submitted time sheets (KEY WORDS SUBMITTED, so lets not get started on the OH THERE ARE FASTER...) because obviously who ever did their work seems to know what they're doing to build quick cars like that!
I get the sense that ProDrag is a good place, I've heard more good than bad about it... really I only hear bad about one "shop" in the city, and I'm sure we all know those double initials! For shops that actually claim or actually do work there are titan, ez, and prodrag the rest seem to farm out their work!
IMO trust yourself in making a decision, just do the research... some of us on here are partial to or against shops.... make the calls and go from there! |
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| prophet_ca |
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really I only hear bad about one "shop" in the city, and I'm sure we all know those double initials! For shops that actually claim or actually do work there are titan, ez, and prodrag the rest seem to farm out their work!
Who is this double initials...:blink:... I haven't seen anything from titan, but have heard nothing bad about them... ez seen lots of nice non-performance work (wheels, body kits, etc), but have had semi-bad experience with them... prodrag, well seen there civic, and have heard bad and good things about them... It all comes down to the shop having the knowledge to do the work, and it should come with some kinda warranty... |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| matrix_xrs go to Xtreme Machine for all those goods |
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| redbaron303 |
Prophet - think EZ when two intials are presented... haha!
Okay but really "warranty" or a guarantee is important to me to, they don't give that they don't get my business! |
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| Loose |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 05:38 PM
Mao with the Supra is "sponosred" (by my understanding) with Contemporary motorsports and I presume they did the work to his car too?!
Place #2&3 are DSM's and I don't know those guys at all or their cars so they'll have to say who did them....
#4 Jack w/ the FD rx7 TT I believe has done his piece work through rx7 club and other places he trusts...
No offense, but if you don't know what you are talking about and are just speculating: STFU! ... cause you're wrong wrong wrong. |
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| THEONE |
| RedBarron! You just contradicted yourself! I said the proof is in the pudding and you went on about shop proving themselves! Then you said ask the fast guys who does there work? Isn't that the proof! The car runs fast and looks good that means theoriticaly the shop doing the work nows what they are doing! They are proving themselves through there work and the cars that come out of there shop! |
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| redbaron303 |
Here's what I said "Yes, I agree that seeing the work they've done is important but the people that are the best in the city are the ones you can afford and trust."
I guess if you can't afford the best, their projects don't count, for you!
"I haven't seen very many pieces by any shop in this city that I truely like" oh and to me when I said this that means there aren't any cars that have been produced in edmonton that are worthy of noting in my books that will encourage me to take a car to a shop based on their work!
Yet again reitterating " Let's not get into this Proof deal again, it'll just start a pissing contest between all the shops on the board! " I just hate the threads that the shops go on dissin each other in, that's not cool... so why can't ppl just ask around, do their research and not get the shops into dissin each other! That is what was meant w/ that comment!
So yes, I did say ask the ppl who have the fastest cars so the person that asked about this thread could make an informed decision on how and where they got their stuff done! I mean they're the fastest that we have documented, I think they know the answers! "THEONE" maybe that clarrifies why there was that contradiction? I don't know... IMO there aren't any truely capable shops that I've seen do 100% everything (other than ProDrag in Etown)!
LOOSE: STFU yourself, take your head and a cram it in a small place! I don't know 100% of what they did, who did it, or what they used ----> and I SAID THAT I DIDN"T KNOW ALL. I put them in as examples so I could suggest to ppl who they should ask about this question, why did I say that about that supra, because it was in the Contemporary booth at some shows in Calgary which leads me to believe that he is sponsored, shops, and has his car done up by them...? !
Maybe open your eyes and read what I wrote, and if it's all that important to you ask them like I suggest! |
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| THEONE |
| RedBaron! How does your foot taste? Since I'm ONE of the peoples cars you mentioned I guess that does make me TheOne! I do all my own work minus machining! ;) :wtf: |
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| redbaron303 |
| Tastes good... which ride is yours? Talon? You seem to have a dsm personality... :) |
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| THEONE |
| As far as shops "proving" themselves all the better that's what they should be doing! They should however prove themselves on the track, and at shows not on this board! ;) |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by THEONE@Mar 9 2003, 07:37 PM
As far as shops "proving" themselves all the better that's what they should be doing! They should however prove themselves on the track, and at shows not on this board! ;)
Thank you.... exactly what I was trying to say.... I guess I didn't say it very well... oh well. But I still dont' think that the cars they've done are the only thing to judge a shop one.... |
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| IH8V8S |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 05:53 PM
Prophet - think EZ when two intials are presented... haha!
Okay but really "warranty" or a guarantee is important to me to, they don't give that they don't get my business!
:unsure: Here's my views on this whole thing; not that I know anything but........ :wacko:
What your asking for is a shop that pumps out performance cars on a regular basis. There is no such shop here. I'm sorry guys, but neither EZ, Titan, Pro Drag, or anyone else. Zippys/Prodrag may have their Civic and I beleive they've done a turbo VW but that's all I'm aware of. And a lot of things depend on what you want out of your car. If you want a 400hp Monster, a 325hp Street Beast, or a 250hp "Daily Driver". I know Turbo XS has a turbo kit out for the Celica GTS. The engine is the same as in your XRS. Maybe you could find someone to modify it to fit for you. I think it's good for 237hp or something at the wheels at 6 or 7psi. Would make a nice street car. Plus, you can run it with stock engine internals and tranny...... although a beefier clutch may be in order. If you want more than that go to a shop in So-Cal with about $25,000CDN in your pocket and they'll build you a sort-of race car. Decide what you want and go from there, you may think you need more than you do. B)
On top of all this I think you'll find it tough to find a shop that'll warrenty something as custom as this. They may build it so it should work but if you crank the boost to 20psi or start slapping slicks on it and expecting them to pay for broken axles..... I don't think so!
But there's my $0.02, and in case you don't know I drive this:
www.jbspowercentre.com/pics/gallery/battle2002/001.jpg
Krazy Karl :wacko: |
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| THEONE |
| Correct! But if a shop has a shop car (I mean a car they actually did over 50% of the work on) that is either a wicked, or a piece of shit it says alot about the shop. Sticking a sticker on someone elses work doesn't make it your shops car!!!!!!!! :thefinger: |
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| Loose |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 07:29 PM
LOOSE: STFU yourself, take your head and a cram it in a small place! I don't know 100% of what they did, who did it, or what they used ----> and I SAID THAT I DIDN"T KNOW ALL. I put them in as examples so I could suggest to ppl who they should ask about this question, why did I say that about that supra, because it was in the Contemporary booth at some shows in Calgary which leads me to believe that he is sponsored, shops, and has his car done up by them...? !
Maybe open your eyes and read what I wrote, and if it's all that important to you ask them like I suggest!
Don't SPAM the boards with your stupid little "I don't know what the f*uck I'm talking about, but I'll speak anyway" comments.
Regarding your nice opening remark: I'm suprised by how people grow balls behind the keyboard. I think you know who I am, please don't hesitate to confront me to my face if you got beef. |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by Loose@Mar 9 2003, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 07:29 PM
LOOSE: STFU yourself, take your head and a cram it in a small place! I don't know 100% of what they did, who did it, or what they used ----> and I SAID THAT I DIDN"T KNOW ALL. I put them in as examples so I could suggest to ppl who they should ask about this question, why did I say that about that supra, because it was in the Contemporary booth at some shows in Calgary which leads me to believe that he is sponsored, shops, and has his car done up by them...? !
Maybe open your eyes and read what I wrote, and if it's all that important to you ask them like I suggest!
Don't SPAM the boards with your stupid little "I don't know what the f*uck I'm talking about, but I'll speak anyway" comments.
Regarding your nice opening remark: I'm suprised by how people grow balls behind the keyboard. I think you know who I am, please don't hesitate to confront me to my face if you got beef.
I don't need to grow balls on a forum. I'll tell you to cram it to your face. Yes, they're fighten words, no I don't fight. I'll be the better man and walk away, most people probably could kick my ass in a fight and I dont feel like being beat down! Point of this board is to offer comments and what you do know, and even what you don't in a questioning sort of way... you know if I don't make a comment on something like those top 4 cars and people don't correct me, I may never know the right answer! IMO you're worse than that dsm4evr.... Oh and I'm not 100% I do know who you are, but I think I have a pretty good idea, even then....
So man, at least I have the balls to admit I'm not the CAR GOD that everyone should BOW DOWN to! As for your all knowledgable self here goes : :bow: hahahaha! :thefinger:
I'm not here to gain enemies and through out threats, but I'm not here either to be talked down to... basically you don't like what I have to say, fine that's fair... I like what you've got to say for the most part and you don't see me callin you a dumb shit or anything like that! :o |
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| Loose |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 09:56 PM
I don't need to grow balls on a forum. I'll tell you to cram it to your face. Yes, they're fighten words, no I don't fight. I'll be the better man and walk away, most people probably could kick my ass in a fight and I dont feel like being beat down!
Ok, I think we've come to an understanding.
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| ManHunter |
Hey people, don't turn these good forums into another EO please.
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| bigpappa |
| karl i'am gonna say this very forward,YOUR A FUCKIN IDIOT.you talk about people not trustin titan, pro drag or ez look at you workin at that joke of a shop matrix?ya well i would like to see one car they put out that is fast???they never put one out thats right and know you are on here talkin shit?well i guess since you work there you can now race with your boyfriend milan in the shop class???as for zippies/ prodrag they put out lots of turboed cars as for titan we have put out 4 in the last year ez ????you tell us how many you guys over at matrix put out last year 0 thats right 0!so intel you put up shut up? :thefinger: |
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| bigpappa |
| as for turboxs turbo kit they make bov and boost controll;ers idiot |
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| ManHunter |
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Originally posted by bigpappa@Mar 10 2003, 10:02 AM
karl i'am gonna say this very forward,YOUR A FUCKIN IDIOT.you talk about people not trustin titan, pro drag or ez look at you workin at that joke of a shop matrix?ya well i would like to see one car they put out that is fast???they never put one out thats right and know you are on here talkin shit?well i guess since you work there you can now race with your boyfriend milan in the shop class???as for zippies/ prodrag they put out lots of turboed cars as for titan we have put out 4 in the last year ez ????you tell us how many you guys over at matrix put out last year 0 thats right 0!so intel you put up shut up? :thefinger:
You know bigpappa, I think you don't have the right attitude. I've been reading your posts for a while now and not a single one of them has been positive in any way. That gives me (and probably many others) absolutely no reason to go see your shop. Be cool man.
I've talked with Karl many times, and he is a nice guy. It's clear to me which one of you two is a "fuckin idiot".
There. Now you've dragged me into your little flame war. I won't be dragged in it again.
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| bigpappa |
i don't think i have ask you to join are flame war but what i said is true as for attitude i don't care what people think of me you think i take this internet chat serious?so i have to care what you think,NO haha as for not comin to my shop i don't have one i work at one big differance.one thing,you can ask anyone who knows me i don't sugar coat or hide the way i feel to win anybodies trust or confidence i 'am straight forward,tell it how it is attitude we should have more of that on these posts.
ps the people that know me know that i do not blindside people,and they know i 'am nice so if you can make a judgement on my attitude by reading my posts i feel sorry for you :thumbsdown: |
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| ManHunter |
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Originally posted by bigpappa@Mar 10 2003, 11:27 AM
ps the people that know me know that i do not blindside people,and they know i 'am nice so if you can make a judgement on my attitude by reading my posts i feel sorry for you :thumbsdown:
Unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to meet you yet. So the only thing I have to go by to make a judgement about yourself are your posts. And from what I read, you seem to have a very confrontational attitude and you like to put people down.
Maybe you don't take these forums seriously and are not being serious when you blast people in your posts, but for people like me who doesn't know you, it simply looks like you are being an ass. But it's all good now. We just won't take your posts too seriously from now on.
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| bigpappa |
| duhh certain people on here know i have been in the import scene for a long time i know who's who so don't judge me if you haven't mett me :wub: |
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| THEONE |
| Smile bigpappa! :D Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade! |
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| IH8V8S |
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Originally posted by bigpappa@Mar 10 2003, 11:08 AM
duhh certain people on here know i have been in the import scene for a long time i know who's who so don't judge me if you haven't mett me :wub:
I never mentioned Matrix because we can't do it either! Maybe you have trouble reading but I said no one in town can! No-one means NO-ONE! :blink: I didn't mean it as a knock even though you took it as one. We probably have more licencsed techs than any "tuner shop" in town. But if they don't feel comfortable installing a turbo, EIC, EVC, AFC, or anything else they probably shouldn't be installing them. But it has been proven that we can build some hot looking cars. Our Celica was very popular at the EMDA Show. One day when we want to, we'll build a real race car. Until then, I'll be happy selling lots of tuning parts to people who want them at a good price! You can claim whatever you like, but I seldom hear the same story from you twice. And anyone that know you will agree that you are a big talker. It'd be nice if you'd back it up. We all know your car wasn't stinking fast last year but maybe this will be your year!
All that aside, if you want to build a fast car; great! I hope it moves the scene in Edmonton along. One day I hope to do so as well. Till then I'll run my 14 second wagon and have a lot of fun with it!
Try just being happy doing what you're doing and don't feel the need to be so competative! If you're as good as you say you have nothing to worry about. :)
I'm done with this topic! :bigthumbup:
Krazy Karl :wacko: |
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| IH8V8S |
:blink: And BTW, you're right, it wasn't Turbo XS that had the Kit for the Celica GT-S it was XS Engineering! MY BAD! :o
Krazy Karl :wacko: |
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| mitsuman |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 05:38 PM
Place #2&3 are DSM's and I don't know those guys at all or their cars so they'll have to say who did them....
#3 Guy here.... I do all of the work myself...afterall, it's what I like to do and it brings me satisfaction! B) |
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| redbaron303 |
Both # 2 &3 do their own work..... Have to find out about that Supra now... if he does his own work... there probably aren't to many credable import shops pumping out show n go, or just go cars.... body kits don't count unless you're a speed racer wanna be :D
Just have to say, WOW you guys must know your shit to pull #'s like that! Goodluck in this years season! |
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| bigpappa |
| hey karl why couldn't i back it up the first year i had my car?you know the answer?i got a bullshit engine i think you guys called it a brigdeport?ya a overheated bridge port that i was told was good?????as for me being a big talker i can back it up, :thefinger: heres the same story over and over how can you sell parts with no expierance running those parts?????the only reason i'am competitive is because,i got f*cked by certain people i was told i could trust and i will do everything financially,mentally,competively to stop them from makin money off people comin into the scene,and being in the scene!you preach about how honest you are but how many shady deals have you been invloved in?i know of one me!AS FOR THE NEW PEOPLE COMIN INTO THE SCENE is funte v8less guys are great the scene is good.my advice to you karl is the brigdes you burned,might come back to finally fall over this year we see what the future holds if you have anything to say you can private message me? :thefinger: |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| WTF?! Big Pappa... I am gonna have to agree with Eric (Man Hunter). Your attitude sucks.... You bitch and complain at people........ I dont think thats gonna make too many people wanna come to Titan and buy stuff....... As for Karl, hes a great guy.... When i had troubles with my RX7 and i didn't even know him, i went to his work and he took the time to come out a test-drive my car to tell me what was wrong with it for free... Don't be messin with people if you dont know all the exact facts.... Its like where i work... One of our Competitors is Staples. They sell HP and Compaq computers but we build custom computers.... We dont tell people how unreliable HP's and Compaq's are even though we currently have 20 of them lined up right now in the back for repairs that were bought at Staples... Even then though, if we dont carry a part or a product we recommend them going to Staples to try and find it and Staples tells them to come here if they dont have a product.If you got a problem with another shop keep it to yourself and then talk with the other shop manager.... |
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| redbaron303 |
| Okay, lemme say a few things here... I know alot of you, Karl, Chad, Leno, etc.... I can say you're all nice ppl in person! I'm sure everyone here is knowledgeable at least about their car! I've heard both sides of the R100 story, and I really don't care who's fault it is.... blah blah blah.... Here it comes: Just grow up guys... you're scaring off "newbies" and "new customers" by dissin each others shops online... some ppl take what is said here very seriously and if they see you being an asshole online they may not want to come shop in your shops! Hell I think I may jsut take my business to calgary so that way I don't ahve to listen to your bitchin about who screwed who and whos better than the other... I see these boards as being an opportunity to promote your shops and workmanship, take it easy on the dissing of the competition. Basically ppl want to see fast cars, build the fastest car and you'll probably have the most respect because you've proven yourself on the track and are encouraging ppl to try to do the same, this in turn will have to bring about some business! IMO until I see a 9-10 second car out here, there are no true performance shops, just parts stores that sometimes have the ability to install what they sell... So take it easy and do some self/store promotion, you'll win ppl over better that way! |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| I wasn't bitchin bout anyone's shop. Just sayin that each shop should have respect for each other and have "FRIENDLY" competion... I was also sayin theres no need to rag on anyone for working at any certain shop. sorry if i stepped on any toes! |
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| v8slayer |
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Originally posted by mitsuman@Mar 10 2003, 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 9 2003, 05:38 PM
Place #2&3 are DSM's and I don't know those guys at all or their cars so they'll have to say who did them....
#3 Guy here.... I do all of the work myself...afterall, it's what I like to do and it brings me satisfaction! B)
Dido I did my engine build myself and got Pro-Drag/Zippys to do the needed Fabrication.
EX: intercooler Install , welding , hoist work , turbo back exhaust , ect................
I would have gotten them to do the whole car but I was capable of doing the engine myself so why not.
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| redbaron303 |
| That's cool.... doing you're own work is a good thing, especially if you turn out real quick! :D |
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| IH8V8S |
I think it all goes back to the same old story of nobody cares about your car more than you! That's why doing your own work is so great! :bigthumbup:
Krazy Karl :wacko: |
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| 98Luder |
matrix_xrs: to get everything you want done all in one place is quite difficult. If you want it done right you should go to several different places. I know what your trying to do by one stop shopping. Many shops try to do it all, but usually certain shops that start doing really good work start to specialize. They'll just focus on one thing and get really good at it and tht's what they will be known for. If you really want the best for your money that's the only way i see it. You could have one shop do it, but they would probably farm it out to these specialized shops and charge you a premium, then assemble everything at their facility.
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How many can build a turbo system from scratch including welding , tuning and fully ticketed mechanical install?
How many can fabricate a turbo manifold by hand that won't crack?
How many can properly assemble a HP engine using a ticketed mechanic.
How many can do in house alignments after a drop?
How many can run a in house engine diagnostic?
How many of them can rebuild a tranny that will work?
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So your talking about building the manifold, building up/assembling an addequate engine for your needs, then tuning it, and rebuilding your tranny to take the power. Oh and also provide you the turbo with proper piping. Your looking at around 20K build up there, meaning you want this your 2zz/setup build up right. I'd recommend looking for ppl in the states to do your work for you. After coming back from the PRI trade show i've met a lot of interesting ppl. If you need ppl or phone numbres to call PM me and i might be able to recommed you to some ppl that could help you out on this project of yours. For such a serious project I'd want to see it done right too.
Yea i'll see you guys on the track this year, heh, watch out for turn 1 it's real doozy :fingersx: Specially the hairpin in turn 3, love that.
Heh, don't crash into me or i'll crash into you :P
HOpe to see more Edmonton ppl at the track it's a real fun day to just play with the car. |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by 98Luder@Mar 15 2003, 12:23 PM
I'd recommend looking for ppl in the states to do your work for you.
There is at least one completely capable shop in Edmonton, why spend USD when you can get it done in town? I believe that was a requirement in his original post.
Matrix XRS, give me a call or fax me your ideas, the #'s are in my signature, we will set you up and put all the naysayers in their place. :bigthumbup: |
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| THEONE |
| Words are cheap actions speak volumes! :blink: |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by THEONE@Mar 15 2003, 04:32 PM
Words are cheap actions speak volumes! :blink:
Precisely my point. :bigthumbup: |
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| redbaron303 |
| Guess well see about that this summer.... :D :bigthumbup: |
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