| Shady_Pro |
| short and sweet heres the story...driving my winter beater with no registration just insurance, get pulled over obviously i get a ticket for no reg but not only did i get the 280 for no reg i also got one for not being able to present it, another 170 bucks....how the fuck can you provide registration if you openly admit to not having it???....:dunno: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
You lucked out.
I did the same thing a while back, I just bought the car, had insurance and it was late Sunday so I couldn't get registration. I coulda got:
No registration
Unauthorized plates
Plus they would impound it.
Just the 2 tickets woulda been $660 plus towing and impound fees.
Plus the failure to produce, I had insurance and the bill of sale.
The only reason they let me go was cause, well the fines woulda been more than the car was worth. They even had a supervisor stop by. But let me know if anything happened(like an accident) my ass would be grass(yes they actually said that)
If you have a good reason for not having registration, and I mean a good reason you could plead guilty to the no registration, and try to get off on the failing to produce.
I think you got both just incase you managed to get registration backdated you'd still get nailed with 1 ticket. Like say you did get the reg back dated, and then you could fight the no reg ticket, but he would still get ya on the failure to produce. |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by Shady_Pro
short and sweet heres the story...driving my winter beater with no registration just insurance, get pulled over obviously i get a ticket for no reg but not only did i get the 280 for no reg i also got one for not being able to present it, another 170 bucks....how the fuck can you provide registration if you openly admit to not having it???....:dunno:
Technically it makes perfect sense.
Logically, it seems silly since the failure to produce is essentially the same as not having any.
However, there's nothing to complain about because you knew exactly what would happen. Just be thankful they didn't tow you. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
Technically it makes perfect sense.
Logically, it seems silly since the failure to produce is essentially the same as not having any.
However, there's nothing to complain about because you knew exactly what would happen. Just be thankful they didn't tow you.
why do these comments always come up ...honestly. sure hes lucky but that doesnt mean the cop wasnt being a dick for no reason, normally he would issue both if you were a dick to him in which case id understand but otherwise there was no reason other then him being a dick to issue both of those tickets. specially considering you had insurance. |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
why do these comments always come up ...honestly. sure hes lucky but that doesnt mean the cop wasnt being a dick for no reason, normally he would issue both if you were a dick to him in which case id understand but otherwise there was no reason other then him being a dick to issue both of those tickets. specially considering you had insurance.
I would say the cop was being pretty nice - he could have towed the car away. |
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| icydude |
| could have been avoided with an in transite permit for 22 dollars:dunno: |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by TrevorK
I would say the cop was being pretty nice - he could have towed the car away.
Then you'd have two tickets, plus towing, plus impound fees... plus a major pain in the ass.
Nice cop, IMO... |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| ok but the fact of the matter is, if he was a nice cop he would have given him the one ticket of driving without registration. almost no cop would have a car towed for having insurance but no registration. just because they are cops doesnt mean they need to be power tripping all the time... you know it does alot more good to show a person mercy then it does pissing them off and dragging them through the mud, if you dont understand this, then there is something wrong |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
ok but the fact of the matter is, if he was a nice cop he would have given him the one ticket of driving without registration. almost no cop would have a car towed for having insurance but no registration. just because they are cops doesnt mean they need to be power tripping all the time... you know it does alot more good to show a person mercy then it does pissing them off and dragging them through the mud, if you dont understand this, then there is something wrong
I'm all for cops being nice when it's apprpriate, no doubt. You know, you're 15 over at 3am on an empty road... something like that.
But registration is not hard to do. It's not hard to remember to register your car and keept the damn slip on you.
So the "fact of the matter" is that the cop let him off easy, since he could have gone much further in tickets/expenses.
Did you have plates on the car? If you did, but they were off another car, that's another ticket right there.
Maybe this will be an educational experience to the original poster and he'll learn from his mistakes and expenses and never try and cheap out on something cheap enough to begin with. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
this is my point tho.. 2 tickets is unneccessary when ONE ticket would have gotten the point across just as well... police arent out there to help us they are simply there to punish us when we do wrong and to gain monetarily.
thier purpose is to see to a law abiding society, not to cash in on the people who break the law. the poster is going to get NOTHING out of this except a rage case..had the cop been a nice guy and said look you had blank many days to renew it and you didnt, i can write you blabla 4 tickets for everything youve done wrong but im only going to write you the one for driving while unregistered. Next time keep up with the registration.. then he knows shit that sucks i got a ticket but atleast he didnt rape me next time ill keep up. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
When I got pulled over my plates where off my truck, and the registration n that had lapsed. AKA the truck died in Dec, Registration expired end of march, this was early april.
Thats where the unauthorized plates come into play.
Keep in mind I was driving a rust bucket of a POS that really shouldn't have been onthe road(I had it for a week, Picked it up Sunday, registered it Monday, dropped it off the saturday) I got pulled over on the sunday. heh.
So if the orig poster was driving a sports car, or a nice car.. the cop prolly woulda been figuring you have money, you shoulda know to register it in advance, etc, where as with the pos I was driving the cops prolly figured it took every cent I had just to buy the car. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
im only placing this point based on my own personal experiences.. a few years ago i was caught street racing, just out being stupid. the cop was the most ignorant fuck ive ever met. nailed me with every damn ticket ive ever even knew existed. swearing at me calling me an ignorant prick even tho this was on yellowhead trail at night, yes dumb but he blew it out of proportion...anyways all i got from that was that cops an asshole fuck him bla bla bla. no lesson learned here
HOWEVER... i was caught again at the end of that summer, this time by a supervisor. VERY polite. Gave me the necessary chat about what could happen, asked me if i understood where hes coming from i said yea if you put it that way etc etc. the best part about it he says this is for your own good i want you to think before you do it next time, and told me to have a nice night and let me off.... i havent street raced since. the objective here isnt the fact that i was stupid for racing (cuz it really is stupid) but how much more effective the message is when you go about it in an equal way instead of treating the other person like whatever you say is gods word. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
this is my point tho.. 2 tickets is unneccessary when ONE ticket would have gotten the point across just as well... police arent out there to help us they are simply there to punish us when we do wrong and to gain monetarily.
thier purpose is to see to a law abiding society, not to cash in on the people who break the law. the poster is going to get NOTHING out of this except a rage case..had the cop been a nice guy and said look you had blank many days to renew it and you didnt, i can write you blabla 4 tickets for everything youve done wrong but im only going to write you the one for driving while unregistered. Next time keep up with the registration.. then he knows shit that sucks i got a ticket but atleast he didnt rape me next time ill keep up.
You don't have x many days to renew, you have all year to know you have to renew by.
That reminds me, I was 3 days past once, I was driving somebody home, The cop told my I was passed due, and I said "Ohh I thought I had 2 weeks" he was like "nope" the 31st is the 31st.
Now with that one I lucked out and the car was in the wife's name, so I was like oh ok. Well I'll take it home and park it, the wife is out of town til the weekend and I guess she needs to renew it..
It was a partial truth, she was in town, but wouldn't have been able to renew til the weekend due to her schedule.
And he let me go. turns out I was able to do a straight renewal on it the next day. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
you only get 2 weeks when you buy a new vehicle, 2 weeks to transfer it provided it hasnt expired and also you still have to have insurance.. i got pulled over a week after i bought my lude which i appreciated being as my plate didnt match my car as i hadnt switched it over...if it was actually stolen i know id get my car back lol anyways i showed him my registration from my other car and my insurance and he said its invalid and i told him no, i have 2 weeks to switch it over and he actually said "are you sure?" and i said thats what my insurance agent told me lol so he went to his car and came back and said i was right.. so he let me go and told me to switch it over asap.. =D
anyways these are just my opinions given the information he gave me, there could be alot more to the story we dont know. |
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| TrevorK |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
almost no cop would have a car towed for having insurance but no registration.
My girlfriend's mother has had her car towed for expired registration before.
So if it happens to a 40 year old lady, I'm assuming it happens to other people |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| i know thats why i said almost no cop.. because generally cops are people and dont do rediculous things to feed thier own ego unless you give them a good reason to. i stand by my statement that he wouldnt tow the car if you have insurance and just let it lapse a few days. if your a dick to him then sure hed proly have it towed, as he should. |
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| SilverZ24 |
I think he got off easy. I got the same two tickets a couple of years ago, plus had my plates confiscated and the car impounded on the 1st day my registration was expired!! I had the renewal in my glovebox, showed the cop and told him I had just completely forgot. It was just after noon on a weekday and I said I would drive over to the closest registry (a few blocks) with the cop and pay for it and put the sticker on my car.
He wouldn't let me do it and told me I had better call a cab for a ride home. Oh, and while I was trying to convince him to go with me to the registry place he wrote me another ticket for speeding and "estimated" 20km over the limit. Now that is an ass.
Then to annoy me more, the next week a guy I work with (who is close to 60) got pulled over in almost the exact same spot and his plates were 2 months expired and the cop told him he had 24 hours to get them renewed and show them to him. That pissed me off. :mad:
Anyway, like I said, this guy is lucky. Just pay your tickets and be glad you didn't get pulled over by the same guy I did. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Heh that reminds me of my truck...
I was alittle passed the 14 days, like 2, I was waiting for payday. They pull me over under the pretense that I was speeding.
They rode my ass hard core, like if I woulda took my foot off the gas they woulda hit me. and well the rear window was tinted limo at it was 11pm, so I couldn't tell it was a cop. I was doing 50 in a 50, the rode my ass so I got up to 60 to get some breathing room, then I slowed down again.... they caught up and rode my ass.. followed me for like 8 blocks. Pull me over ironically right across the street from where I bought the silly thing.
I was honest, said I was waiting for friday because I had some outstanding fines, etc, etc. So... what to they do.. they take what paper work I had, tell me to sit in my truck eyes forward.. 20min later I see yellow revolving lights and the ass end of my truck goes up, with me still in the friggin truck.
Once they had it up so I couldn't drive away...(Yeah like I'm gonna out run a cop car in a 86 D50) they did a road side inspection. Nailed me for everything they could. No registration, unauthorized plates, no plate light(truck didn't even have a spot for a bulb), reverse lights where on a manual switch , not auto matic, etc, etc.
They impound the silly thing. made me walk to work with 60-70lbs of my work stuff on my shoulders(I just had back surgury and wasn't supposed to lift over 20lbs) 2 days later(payday) The took my plate, and didn't tell me so I registered my truck on that plate.
I go to get the truck, no plate. So I had to pay registration twice.
This was back in 98/99 before fines went up and after the towing/impound and fines it got me $1300 to get my $2200 truck back.
So yeah, he got of easy.... not as easy as I did this last time, but it coulda been worse. |
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| Shady_Pro |
update...
talked to 3 different cops at each of these stations (leduc, spruce grove, st ablert) and they said that theres a 99% percent that one of the two registration tickets will be throughin out...
ya the plate was off my prelude from the summer it also had 06 tags on it...
ill most likley be gettin the no reg ticket tossed out because i bought the car back form my buddy only a few days ago...:thumbup: i bought it the first time at the beggining of the january and then i sold it to my buddy at the beggining of feb and bought it back last sunday...:D :D and the law says you have two weeks from buying the car...
as long as i have all the bills of sales and wintness's for each im fine |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Do you still own the prelude? If so you can't use the plate from the prelude.
Well you can, but you don't have the 2 week window. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Do you still own the prelude? If so you can't use the plate from the prelude.
Well you can, but you don't have the 2 week window.
oh yea thats right i forgot about that one... |
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| Shady_Pro |
| you don't ahve a two week window?> |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by Shady_Pro
you don't ahve a two week window?>
Only if you have a plate that has valid registration for a vehicle you just got rid of.
So say you have Car A, you go buy car b, use car A as a trade, you have 2 weeks.
Now let say you have car A - you park it for the winter, put the plate on car B(winter beater) - since you still own car A you don't have 2 weeks. |
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| Shady_Pro |
| is there anyway to prove that you still have it i mean i could sell my summer car to a friend for a dollar right |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| technicly yes but then you have to lie as to the date of the sale... |
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| albertarc |
quote:
Originally posted by Shady_Pro
is there anyway to prove that you still have it i mean i could sell my summer car to a friend for a dollar right
It's amazing how hard people will work to avoid doing the legal thing.
Jimbo:( |
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| Shady_Pro |
| well whatever it says on the bill of sale is all that counts |
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| 95EagleAWD |
So you'd have a freebie plate for two weeks before you have to re-register with the new car.
Fat lot of good that does you. |
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| Shady_Pro |
| that does me lots of good cause i just make sure the bill of sale shows that its sold back to me a couplle days before im pulled over and then this friday when i get paid i got register it within the two week window and then i take the papers to court |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by Shady_Pro
that does me lots of good cause i just make sure the bill of sale shows that its sold back to me a couplle days before im pulled over and then this friday when i get paid i got register it within the two week window and then i take the papers to court
You realize that if you're lying about the date of sale on the bill of sale, that's some serious fraud right there.
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| Shady_Pro |
| no lying i have all the bill of sales.. true story |
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