| charlieboi |
So today I got a ticket...for tint on front windows.
How can I fight this? the cop didnt tell me i have to remove it anytime soon , only told me my court date etc
he quote the law sec65(1)(a) Equip Violation Contravening Sec(69) traffic safety act.
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| 95EagleAWD |
You can take it off or pay the ticket.
You can't have tint on the front windows.
This should be a goddamned sticky. No more stupid fucking "I got a tint ticket" threads. Everyone knows it's illegal. Stop doing it or stop bitching.
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by charlieboi
So today I got a ticket...for tint on front windows.
How can I fight this? the cop didnt tell me i have to remove it anytime soon , only told me my court date etc
he quote the law sec65(1)(a) Equip Violation Contravening Sec(69) traffic safety act.
Thanks
BAHAHAH in what a week? I've had tint on my car for like a year and a half and i haven't gotten a ticket. |
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| dc2696 |
| take it off and pay the fine then go get it put back on agina, but next time just don't post about it:D |
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| charlieboi |
| I cant keep it on? |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by charlieboi
I cant keep it on?
you can keep it on. just don't let anyone see it. |
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| tegGSR |
| unless part of your ticket was to take it off you dont have to but if you got a ticket for just having tint (not "stunting" etc) then chances are youre gonna get one again:dunno: |
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| Ammo |
| i heard from a firend that you can tint your front two windows as long as ppl can see your face through it. is this true?:dunno: |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by Ammo
i heard from a firend that you can tint your front two windows as long as ppl can see your face through it. is this true?:dunno:
No.
No tint on front windows whatsoever. |
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| chukirps13 |
| Someone should do up a FAQ sticky! |
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| GQsmooth |
a lot of ppl have their fronts tinted, I've drove by cops many times, it's basically a hit or miss situation.(Depending on the cop)
I've heard you can get it done from the dealerships as a factory option, when your buying a new car? |
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| albertarc |
quote:
Originally posted by GQsmooth
a lot of ppl have their fronts tinted, I've drove by cops many times, it's basically a hit or miss situation.(Depending on the cop)
I've heard you can get it done from the dealerships as a factory option, when your buying a new car?
I think you pretty much answered your own question:
dealership vs factory ... oranges vs apples
Jimbo:dunno: |
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| 3gec |
Can't really do much about it I don't think. Last saturday, I got pulled over twice for it within an hour and half. The first cop gave me a ticket and I showed to the 2nd one and he was like alright have a nice day. First time I got pulled over for it in a year and a half.
But mine 65(1) (d) Tinted Windows. So that is kinda weird.
Just pay it. You know your broke the law. Suck it up. :D |
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| gerrycurl |
| how'd you get caught? did u just pull up right beside a cop car? |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by gerrycurl
how'd you get caught? did u just pull up right beside a cop car?
Driving down 170st. Normal driving not speeding or doing anything stupid. Passed the cop as he was behind other cars while I went to a lane with no one in it at a light. He then got behind me followed me and pulled me over. This is the cop who gave me the ticket.
Other time was on the whitemud and I passed a cop doing 90 or so I knew he was there and he pulled me over. This cop didn't give me a ticket though. |
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| GQsmooth |
quote:
Originally posted by albertarc
I think you pretty much answered your own question:
dealership vs factory ... oranges vs apples
Jimbo:dunno:
wtf? |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by GQsmooth
wtf?
dealership will do pretty much anything u want to ur car to sell it to you including adding illegal tint. |
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| whoishomer |
I don't know what the big deal is, just roll down your windows if your passing a cop, or if you get pulled over roll down your windows.
THe cop can ask you to roll them up, but legally you don't have to roll them back up. So if he can't see they are tinted, he can't ticket you... |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by whoishomer
THe cop can ask you to roll them up, but legally you don't have to roll them back up. So if he can't see they are tinted, he can't ticket you...
oh so you have no windows. I am sure there is a rule against not having windows somewhere.... Oh well I will tow your car. :rolleyes:
Why be a smart ass when you know you are in the wrong? Suck it up and either take it off or risk another ticket. |
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| whoishomer |
You don't have to be a smart ass, you have the right to remain silent, when he asks you to roll up your windows just say nothing, if he asks where you were going in a hurry just say nothing. Do nothing to incriminate yourself, and theres nothing the cop can do... Doing this is exercisings your rights, its not being a smart ass. But seriously second to taxi's cops have to be the worst drivers out there. If anything the cop should be getting a ticket for something instead of you for having harmless tinted windows.
And just because you choose not to roll up your windows doesn't mean you don't have windows....give me a break |
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| 3gec |
| If you give the cop a hard time he is going to nail you with absolutly everything he can find on your car. So why not bite it and just do what he asks you. A lot of time if you respect the officer he will respect you much more and more than likely just let you off with a warning. And for some reason I am pretty sure if you didn't want to roll up your windows they could tow you pretty easily. |
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| charlieboi |
yeah the cop was bein ncie to me n all
and i thought he was gonna give me a warning,,
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i thoguht wrong. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by charlieboi
yeah the cop was bein ncie to me n all
and i thought he was gonna give me a warning,,
but
i thoguht wrong.
haha ya same here. But there is always hope to trying instead of pissing them off more so you get more tickets if he feels like it. But you know he is just doing what he is getting paid to do. So you can't really blame them. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
If you give the cop a hard time he is going to nail you with absolutly everything he can find on your car. So why not bite it and just do what he asks you. A lot of time if you respect the officer he will respect you much more and more than likely just let you off with a warning. And for some reason I am pretty sure if you didn't want to roll up your windows they could tow you pretty easily.
Indeed.
If I walked up and asked for your license and you didn't answer me at all, exercising your "right" (which, btw, is only in America, you don't get Miranda rights in Canada) to remain silent, you'd be in the back of the cruiser pretty quick. Because it would quickly evolve to a "get out of the car" command and if that was ignored, you'd be getting dragged out through the window.
Answer the guy's question truthfully. Like it's been stated so, so many times, tint is illegal, whether you think it's a good law or not. So you getting caught is the risk you take when you do something you are 100% sure is illegal. |
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| whoishomer |
Easy way to get out of a ticket:
1 be a hot girl, pretty much 100% gauranteed that he will let you go with a warning
2 Be respectful!!
and if the cop is an ass to you, and is really giving you a hard time, chances are he will let you go with a warning.
If the cop is nice to you, chances are you will get a ticket.
I myself have never gotten a ticket. I've been pulled over a few times, but just give the pig his donut and its all good ;) |
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| chckn |
I also got a Tinted Windows ticket today - (Section 65(1)(d)
Is there any way I can get out of it or lower it since I just bought it less than a week ago and it already had tints on it?
Also, when he came to my car, I rolled down my windows. He said, "I'm pulling you over for having tints on your driver and passenger side windows...*then he looks at my seatbelt*... AND for not wearing a seatbelt."
I told him that I just took it off after being pulled over.
He said that it has to be on still.
So...I got 2 effing tickets.
Any way to get outta these or lower these?
****Edit****
oh, and i just noticed that Section 65(1)(d) states:
Except as otherwise permitted under this Act, a person shall not do any of the following:
(d) drive or operate a vehicle on a highway unless the vehicle and its equipment are used in a manner or as prescribed or provided for by regulation;
Did he write down the right section on the ticket? |
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| whoishomer |
You could try going to court and seeing if the cop doesn't bother showing up...
But probably not much you can do, as people have stated, tint is illegal, and if he saw it on your car, you'll just have to suck it up.
How much was the ticket for the tint? |
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| chckn |
If I plead not guilty and take it to court, i dont have to pay for it if the cop that gave me the ticket doesn't show up?
The tinting ticket is $115.
How about the seatbelt ticket? That one is such bullshit. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by chckn
The tinting ticket is $115.
Ouch! Is that what they are now? Holy crap. I got a tint ticket back ~ '99 or so, by the RCMP. I remember it being a ~$35 ticket, back then. ($35 --> $115 is not merely inflation, not even close).
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How about the seatbelt ticket? That one is such bullshit.
And what credible excuse could you have for NOT wearing a seatbelt? This law is partly intended to save people from their own stupidity, and to help lessen the burden on our health care system which is paid for by our tax dollars. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
And what credible excuse could you have for NOT wearing a seatbelt? This law is partly intended to save people from their own stupidity, and to help lessen the burden on our health care system which is paid for by our tax dollars.
he said he had taken it off when the coped pulled him over.
Maybe to reach into his back pocket or something. That is my first instinct to take my seatbelt off but always stop myself right before.
That hurts dude. Good luck if you are trying to fight them. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
he said he had taken it off when the cop pulled him over.
Ok, I missed that part the first time I skimmed over this thread. |
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| JdmCrx |
| I still don't know how tint hurts anybody. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
I still don't know how tint hurts anybody.
Well, for one thing if its dark enough it can prevent you from being able to make eye contact with the driver. There are lots of circumstances where that can be very important. (not just for cops but for other drivers and pedestrians too). |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Well, for one thing if its dark enough it can prevent you from being able to make eye contact with the driver. There are lots of circumstances where that can be very important. (not just for cops but for other drivers and pedestrians too).
Name some situations.. i don't understand why i should be looking in the eyes of other drivers... |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
Name some situations.. i don't understand why i should be looking in the eyes of other drivers...
Holy shit are you serious? Did you ever learn basic "crossing the street" traffic safety when you were a kid in grade school? If you're at a corner or crosswalk waiting to cross on foot, on rollerblades, bicycle (whatever), wouldn't you feel more reassured if you knew the driver of an approaching car acknowledges you're there and your intent? This applies to adults as well as kids. This is very basic and common sense stuff.
Another example, there can be situations where you and another driver are trying to negiotiate a merge or turn in an otherwise uncontrolled situation (parking lot, median in the middle of a multi-lane road)... there are cases where it'd be asinine and stupid to just pull out in front of the other car not knowing what they're going to do. When two drivers can see each other they will have a better idea on each other's intents, so you can know they are looking at you and aware that you are there so they're not going to drive into you. OR you exchange gesters to communicate who can go first... etc.
Use your imagination a little bit... Sheesh!
Anyway, this is in the police forum. I'm sure Jimbo could comment on this topic as well. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Holy shit are you serious? Did you ever learn basic "crossing the street" traffic safety when you were a kid in grade school? If you're at a corner or crosswalk waiting to cross on foot, on rollerblades, bicycle (whatever), wouldn't you feel more reassured if you knew the driver of an approaching car acknowledges you're there and your intent? This applies to adults as well as kids. This is very basic and common sense stuff.
Use your imagination a little bit... Sheesh!
Anyway, this is in the police forum. I'm sure Jimbo could comment on this topic as well.
I'm very serious.. i don't see the need to be rude... i really don't understand why anyone would walk in front of cars that are still moving. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
I'm very serious.. i don't see the need to be rude... i really don't understand why anyone would walk in front of cars that are still moving.
Even if a car is NOT moving there is still a potential benefit in being able to see the driver and know WHERE they are looking. For example you are crossing on a walk signal at a busy downtown intersection and a driver is impatiently waiting to make a right hand turn on the red, intermittedly inching forward.
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just completely flabbergasted that you can't seem to grasp any of these simple concepts. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Even if a car is NOT moving there is still a potential benefit in being able to see the driver and know WHERE they are looking. For example you are crossing on a walk signal at a busy downtown intersection and a driver is impatiently waiting to make a right hand turn on the red, intermittedly inching forward.
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just completely flabbergasted that you can't seem to grasp any of these simple concepts.
Well you can be as flabber whatever as you want.. but i still don't see how tint hurts anyone. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
Well you can be as flabber whatever as you want.. but i still don't see how tint hurts anyone.
You can't see in the car.
You can't see as well out.
Especially at night.
Cops can't see in your car. Could hurt them, could be bad news for you.
Pedestrians can't see you in your car. Bad news for both of you.
How can you not grasp this concept? |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
You can't see in the car.
You can't see as well out.
Especially at night.
Cops can't see in your car. Could hurt them, could be bad news for you.
Pedestrians can't see you in your car. Bad news for both of you.
How can you not grasp this concept?
You can't see aswell out? True.. but i have no problems seeing in the night or in the daytime.
Cops can't see into my car? So.. nothing to see.
Pedestrians can't see into my car? Great.. they have no reason to look into my car.. other than to plot on stealing something. |
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| Tech2 |
Dude, when you are comming up to some crosswalk with no lights and I want going to cross the street, I will look at your face to see if you are looking at me. If I can't see that, then I have no idea if you will slow down, stop, keep going, or gun it. If I CAN see your face, I will know that you have or haven't seen me. Don't you look at the pedestrian's face to see if he's going to stop, keep talking on his cell and walk into the street, or try to bolt out?
The more information the driver and pedestrian have about other's intentions the better.
I'm guessing you didn't take driver training. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
Dude, when you are comming up to some crosswalk with no lights and I want going to cross the street, I will look at your face to see if you are looking at me. If I can't see that, then I have no idea if you will slow down, stop, keep going, or gun it. If I CAN see your face, I will know that you have or haven't seen me. Don't you look at the pedestrian's face to see if he's going to stop, keep talking on his cell and walk into the street, or try to bolt out?
The more information the driver and pedestrian have about other's intentions the better.
I'm guessing you didn't take driver training.
As a pedestrian.. i can only assume that the driver will keep going until fully stopped. Didn't take driver's training? Man i have 4 years of driving under my belt.. no accidents and i'm getting my class 1 licence here soon. It still doesn't make sense.. tint does not hurt anyone.. the driver is in control of the vehicle... not the tint. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
Just read about your 3 page driver's abstract.
Guess that speaks for itself.
Oh ic.. so your saying the tint makes me speed? |
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| Tech2 |
I reread my post, and I didn't mean to come off as a dick.
Still, the tickets do say something about your overall level of driving safety.
I'm not trying to say that tint causes accidents, though I wouldn't be surprised if it did increase the chances. You'd have to get deep into accident statistics to find that out. Not seeing things does cause accidents, and tint reduces visibility, so it makes sense that it could, which is probably why front window tint is illegal. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
I reread my post, and I didn't mean to come off as a dick.
Still, the tickets do say something about your overall level of driving safety.
I'm not trying to say that tint causes accidents, though I wouldn't be surprised if it did increase the chances. You'd have to get deep into accident statistics to find that out. Not seeing things does cause accidents, and tint reduces visibility, so it makes sense that it could, which is probably why front window tint is illegal.
Ok understand this tho.. yes.. i have 3 page driver's abstract.. but i have been driving for 4 years.. if i was a bad driver.. i would have gotten into an accident by now.. or worse.. kiled someone. I have taken a regular defensive driving course.. a truck driving defensive driving course, and i see accidents happen in front of me all the time.. and i know the means to avoid them.
I have tint on my car... and i also wear prescription glasses with tint and i have no problems seeing in or out of my vehicle. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
Ok understand this tho.. yes.. i have 3 page driver's abstract.. but i have been driving for 4 years.. if i was a bad driver.. i would have gotten into an accident by now.. or worse.. kiled someone. I have taken a regular defensive driving course.. a truck driving defensive driving course, and i see accidents happen in front of me all the time.. and i know the means to avoid them.
I have tint on my car... and i also wear prescription glasses with tint and i have no problems seeing in or out of my vehicle.
Really... not a bad driver with a 3-page abstract?
I've been driving since I was 14. That's almost 8 years now. My abstract is blank. I've never gotten a ticket and never been at fault in an accident. Does that make me a good driver? Statistically, yes, but I'd hate to toot my own horn.
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Cops can't see into my car? So.. nothing to see.
Right... because they know this. For them it's an Officer safety issue. If they can't see inside your car, they have no idea what you have in there. I've talked to many Officers out in the boonies that have their sidearms in hand during traffic stops simply because they can't see in the car. I don't know about you, but I'm not a big fan of having guns pointed at me. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Really... not a bad driver with a 3-page abstract?
I've been driving since I was 14. That's almost 8 years now. My abstract is blank. I've never gotten a ticket and never been at fault in an accident. Does that make me a good driver? Statistically, yes, but I'd hate to toot my own horn.
If they can't see inside your car, they have no idea what you have in there.
Umm.. even say someone had no tint.. and 3 handguns under the seats.. would the cops be able to see it? No.
I think they should just change the law so that you have to have your windows rolled down before a cop is at your vehicle. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
Umm.. even say someone had no tint.. and 3 handguns under the seats.. would the cops be able to see it? No.
I think they should just change the law so that you have to have your windows rolled down before a cop is at your vehicle.
Well 3 handguns under the seat aren't an immediate threat. It's the handgun pointed out the window that the Officer can't see because of the tint that's the issue here. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Well 3 handguns under the seat aren't an immediate threat. It's the handgun pointed out the window that the Officer can't see because of the tint that's the issue here.
Yea your correct. |
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| whoishomer |
| Yes the tint law is stupid, in some states you can have your front windows tinted up to a certaian %. This makes sense, having a nice light tint that keeps the sun/heat out, but is still light enough so that you can see out and people can see in should be completely legal. It does NO harm at all. Cops just need money for their donut funds... |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by whoishomer
Yes the tint law is stupid, in some states you can have your front windows tinted up to a certaian %. This makes sense, having a nice light tint that keeps the sun/heat out, but is still light enough so that you can see out and people can see in should be completely legal. It does NO harm at all. Cops just need money for their donut funds...
Maybe send a letter to your local MP if it bothers you that much? Complaining here about it is getting it no where? Just a suggestion not trying to be an asshole. Everyone complains about it but we all know it's illegal and then we get a ticket and blame the police for doing their job when it's not the police that you should be blaming it's the gov that put the law in place. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
Maybe send a letter to your local MP if it bothers you that much? Complaining here about it is getting it no where? Just a suggestion not trying to be an asshole. Everyone complains about it but we all know it's illegal and then we get a ticket and blame the police for doing their job when it's not the police that you should be blaming it's the gov that put the law in place.
So again.. why is it against the law.. because someone might have a gun pointed at the cop? Oh and sending a lettter to your local MP isn't gonna do shit.. they don't even read that crap. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
So again.. why is it against the law.. because someone might have a gun pointed at the cop? Oh and sending a lettter to your local MP isn't gonna do shit.. they don't even read that crap.
Reduced visibility? Safety issues with the way glass breaks? I Don't know, and I don't really care. And if the letter don't work take other action. Stop complaining about something if you are not going to take any action on it. If you try and fight it and don't succeed then you have the right to complain. Until then suck it up and shut the ... up. That is all my point is. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
Reduced visibility? Safety issues with the way glass breaks? I Don't know, and I don't really care. And if the letter don't work take other action. Stop complaining about something if you are not going to take any action on it. If you try and fight it and don't succeed then you have the right to complain. Until then suck it up and shut the ... up. That is all my point is.
who's complaining.. i merely asked what the reasons for tint being illegal was. Go fuck yourself if your going to be rude. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
who's complaining.. i merely asked what the reasons for tint being illegal was. Go fuck yourself if your going to be rude.
Lots of people are complaning. It wasn't directed at you specifically. It's directed at the people who complain about things but don't do anything to try and change it. I have gotten this ticket. But I can't complain cause 1 I know it's illegal and 2 I am not going to try and do anything about it. |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
Lots of people are complaning. It wasn't directed at you specifically. It's directed at the people who complain about things but don't do anything to try and change it. I have gotten this ticket. But I can't complain cause 1 I know it's illegal and 2 I am not going to try and do anything about it.
Yea well i'm trying to understand why it is illegal.. and besides for the gun pointed at a cop thing.. nobody has brought up anything that is really valid. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
Yea well i'm trying to understand why it is illegal.. and besides for the gun pointed at a cop thing.. nobody has brought up anything that is really valid.
Reduced visibility? I know it's harder to see out my side windows at night. Especially turning at at lights and not being able to see pedestrians. Make sense to me.:dunno: |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by 3gec
Reduced visibility? I know it's harder to see out my side windows at night. Especially turning at at lights and not being able to pedestrians. Make sense to me.:dunno:
I have no problems.. and i wear prescription glasses with tint. Adding to that effect. |
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| 3gec |
quote:
Originally posted by JdmCrx
I have no problems.. and i wear prescription glasses with tint. Adding to that effect.
Ya I wear glasses as well. I just roll my window down sometimes. It's the only reason I really see for it being illegal though. |
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| whoishomer |
| You must have your tint really really dark then, because my front tint is not an issue AT ALL at night. I can see perfectly. ANd its definately not a safety issue. I just had my car T-boned, and my head smashed through my window. The window shattered and the tint was the only thing that kept the window from breaking apart in my face and eyes. So thank goodness i had tint!! |
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| albertarc |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Yea well i'm trying to understand why it is illegal.. and besides for the gun pointed at a cop thing.. nobody has brought up anything that is really valid.
Here's a reason ... adding anything (film, spray, etc) to automotive glass detracts from the safety specs of the glass. We all know how people can get little cuts / scrapes from having side window glass shatter during a collision - right?? Well let's add a tinted film to that glass & try the same thing ... now we have one big chunk of glass just waiting to cut someone big time.
Just a little FYI ... insurance companies are now starting to assess liability during crashes even if you are not at fault for the crash. This means that if you are injured during a collision & there is illegal equipment on your vehicle, then they may decide to assess a liability percentage against your claim.
Jimbo:drama: |
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| JdmCrx |
quote:
Originally posted by albertarc
Here's a reason ... adding anything (film, spray, etc) to automotive glass detracts from the safety specs of the glass. We all know how people can get little cuts / scrapes from having side window glass shatter during a collision - right?? Well let's add a tinted film to that glass & try the same thing ... now we have one big chunk of glass just waiting to cut someone big time.
Just a little FYI ... insurance companies are now starting to assess liability during crashes even if you are not at fault for the crash. This means that if you are injured during a collision & there is illegal equipment on your vehicle, then they may decide to assess a liability percentage against your claim.
Jimbo:drama:
hrmm i guess that makes sense. |
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| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by albertarc
Here's a reason ... adding anything (film, spray, etc) to automotive glass detracts from the safety specs of the glass. We all know how people can get little cuts / scrapes from having side window glass shatter during a collision - right?? Well let's add a tinted film to that glass & try the same thing ... now we have one big chunk of glass just waiting to cut someone big time.
Just a little FYI ... insurance companies are now starting to assess liability during crashes even if you are not at fault for the crash. This means that if you are injured during a collision & there is illegal equipment on your vehicle, then they may decide to assess a liability percentage against your claim.
Jimbo:drama:
Except that since tint is on the inside of the window and actually between you and the glass I would guess you would be less likely to get cut.
I had a back window broken on one of my cars years ago and tint held all the tiny pieces together except for maybe a half dozen or so. Easy to pick up and through out, where if there was no tint I would have spent hours taking out thousands of tiny pieces with lots of chances for cuts.
I know it is illegal, but there seems to be a lot of myths about tint. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by albertarc
Just a little FYI ... insurance companies are now starting to assess liability during crashes even if you are not at fault for the crash. This means that if you are injured during a collision & there is illegal equipment on your vehicle, then they may decide to assess a liability percentage against your claim.
More reason to hate and despise insurance companies. We can forget objective and rational thinking. They will use whatever loopholes they think they can get away with to get out of paying. Whether or not a given piece of "illegal equipment" really contributed to the accident or injury they'll find a way to screw you (on a technicality) regardless. |
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| JdmCrx |
4. How does window tint aid in protecting you during a automobile accident? One of the most common causes of physical harm during any vehicle accident is from the explosive glass shattering around you upon impact. Window tint bonds to the glass and may possibly hold the glass together during an accident, shielding the occupants in the vehicle.
off malcolm's tinting website.
thoughts? :drama: |
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| whoishomer |
Didn't you see my post?
when I got tboned my face smashed into the window. The tint held, but the window shattered. If it wasn't for the tint, all the little peice of glass would have been all in my face, and eyes.... Tint helped me out!!! Not to mention it kept the inside of the car from getting full of shards of glass as well |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by whoishomer
Didn't you see my post?
when I got tboned my face smashed into the window. The tint held, but the window shattered. If it wasn't for the tint, all the little peice of glass would have been all in my face, and eyes.... Tint helped me out!!! Not to mention it kept the inside of the car from getting full of shards of glass as well
yea i did see your post.. just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on it. |
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| mr2kid88 |
tint fines are fucking retarded man..someone said pedestrians, well if that pedestrian is too dumb to notice a car is slowing down for him, he deserves to get hit..half the time pedestrians just walk onto the road anyways, making you stop..regardless of how many cars are behind you..
i notice the need for eye contact is greater at a 4 way stop...but id have to say its still irrelevant, because your never gunna know what the other driver is thinking.."hmm, was I here first, or was he?"
and as for other drivers noticing your intentions, when I see guys with full tint I assume they have common knowledge, and probably try even a little harder than other drivers to be safe, because they know they have reduced visibility..
you should be able to have at least a slight %, or like someone said, make sure your window is down when you get pulled over.. |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by mr2kid88
tint is fucking retarded man..someone said pedestrians, well if that pedestrian is too dumb to notice a car is slowing down for him, he deserves to get hit..half the time pedestrians just walk onto the road anyways, making you stop..regardless of how many cars are behind you..
i notice the need for eye contact is greater at a 4 way stop...but id have to say its still irrelevant, because your never gunna know what the other driver is thinking.."hmm, was I here first, or was he?"
and as for other drivers noticing your intentions, when I see guys with full tint I assume they have common knowledge, and probably try even a little harder than other drivers to be safe, because they know they have reduced visibility..
you should be able to have at least a slight %, or like someone said, make sure your window is down when you get pulled over..
finally someone with a real sense of reality. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by mr2kid88
when I see guys with full tint I assume they have common knowledge, and probably try even a little harder than other drivers to be safe, because they know they have reduced visibility...
You are an idiot to ASSUME anything about the other driver. |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by Inzane
You are an idiot to ASSUME anything about the other driver.
Then wouldn't you be an idiot.. looking for eye contact with another driver..ASSUMING he's gonna stop if he sees your eyes. when you wanted to cross a crosswalk. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Then wouldn't you be an idiot.. looking for eye contact with another driver..ASSUMING he's gonna stop if he sees your eyes. when you wanted to cross a crosswalk.
You obviously didn't understand a word I wrote earlier.
The key concept you failed to grasp is: Communication. The more the better. Being able to see the driver, or being a driver ensuring others can see you is not the be all end all, but it is just one more tool in the arsenal. Put full tint between you and another driver, or between driver and pedestrian, and you've just reduced the avenues of communication:
- eye contact - are they aware you are even there?
- intent - do they look like they intending to do anything?
- gesters/signals - can you see the guy nod, wave or otherwise indict to you whether he wants you to go first, or that he wants you to let him in? OR conversely can he see you?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely anti-tint myself and wish there was some amount allowed. But limo (5%) is a bit ridiculous... And I know, I used to have limo on my doors (from previous owner) until I got the inevitable ticket and I had it removed... (I hated it anyway). |
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| whoishomer |
| If tint is such a bad thing why is it legal in some provinces? |
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| 3gec |
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Originally posted by whoishomer
If tint is such a bad thing why is it legal in some provinces?
Because the people who put it in place in those provinces have different views. |
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| MerkurXR4 |
From what i was told by a member of the RCMP is that it isnt about the issue of not being able to see you or anything like that. Its a safety issue, the glass does not break like its meant too with tint, ya i read that the tint saved your face from being cut up and such.
But reverse the situation to where you have to break your window to get out or you die. with tint on there to hold it all together, good luck!!! |
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| mr2kid88 |
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Originally posted by Inzane
You are an idiot to ASSUME anything about the other driver.
who the fuck doesnt know they have reduced visibility with tint.. |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 3gec
Because the people who put it in place in those provinces have different views.
Well clearly other people don't see it as a safety issue either. |
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| 3gec |
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Originally posted by JdmCrx
Well clearly other people don't see it as a safety issue either.
But clearly it doesn't matter cause they don't make the laws here. |
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| JdmCrx |
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Originally posted by 3gec
But clearly it doesn't matter cause they don't make the laws here.
Correct. |
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| Tech2 |
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Originally posted by mr2kid88
who the fuck doesnt know they have reduced visibility with tint..
No kidding. Kinda takes away any motivation for logical debate. |
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| mr2kid88 |
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Originally posted by 3gec
But clearly it doesn't matter cause they don't make the laws here.
they should, Mr. Law Abiding..and lets face it bro, u could care less if anyone had tint.. |
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| Tech2 |
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Originally posted by mr2kid88
someone said pedestrians, well if that pedestrian is too dumb to notice a car is slowing down for him, he deserves to get hit..
I'm just going to swing my arms like this, and if you get hit it's YOUR fault... |
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| 3gec |
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Originally posted by mr2kid88
they should, Mr. Law Abiding..and lets face it bro, u could care less if anyone had tint..
Can't say I am Mr. Law Abiding. I have 15% all around my car. And you are very right I don't care what anyone else in this world does as long as it don't affect me. |
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