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| masterv |
Found this article amongst all the crap from my Sociology electives. Gives some open thought to what constitutes a guy that has balls and one without.
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Men are PC'ed to death. The consequences of almost 50 years of ardent feminism have been devastating: a society in bewilderment about gender roles, the rise of a class of ball-busting bitches whose battle cry is, "We don't need men," trumped-up charges of "date rape" and "sexual harassment," angry women blaming men for all their problems -- in short, an overall erosion of male confidence. As society becomes more and more feminized, as more and more young men are being raised by single mothers who don't have a clue about the male sex drive, but who teach their sons to surrender their natural masculinity and pander to women, today's man is forced to apologize for -- and feel shame about -- his inherent male sexuality.
Pleasing Women
This abrogation of sexual confidence has resulted in a world full of wusses and doormats, men who cater to women and willingly hand over all their male power in exchange for a few crumbs of approval or sexual "favors."
The modern man walks around on eggshells, afraid of saying the "wrong thing," scared of showing his natural sexual interest to a woman, scared of being scorned, humiliated, or even fired -- scared of his own true self.
All of this flies in the face of nature. For years now, men have been forced to bend over backwards to please women, but pandering to a self-serving social movement can't really reverse five billion years of human evolution.
Clearly this essential point is lost on the female gender because women just don't have a clue what it is to be truly sexual -- a woman's sex drive can't even begin to compare with a man's. Yet modern feminism still blindly strives to feminize men into submissive she-males.
Nature intended men to be strong, assertive, bold, sexual -- this is why testosterone surges through their bloodstreams. This is a man's right -- his heritage -- as a member of the male gender.
And the truth is, despite what women say and how much they protest, they want a man who acts like a man. Scratch the surface and you'll find that deep down they don't really want a man to act like a woman any more than a guy wants a chick to be masculine.
So instead of letting women snip pruning shears at their crotches, it's time for men to stop apologizing for being male, to celebrate their inherently sexual natures, and to reclaim their sexual confidence.
Sexual What?
Just what is sexual confidence? First, it's important to understand what it's not.
Men who are not sexually confident:
-Seek approval from women
-Cater or pander to women
-Are predictable and boring
-Call women every day or worse, many times a day (clingy, needy)
-Try to buy their time and attention with meals, gifts, etc.
-Are nervous, insecure or overly nice around women
-Act like women's friends instead of their lovers
-Are available at the drop of a hat
-Tolerate without protest rude behavior, cancelled dates, etc.
-Go out of their way to please women in the hope of getting laid
-Let women control the relationship
-Are afraid that if they do "something wrong," she'll leave
-Grovel, beg, or are desperate for sex
-Obsess about and over-analyze everything women say and do
-Feel shameful or guilty about their natural sexuality
-Let women manipulate them or treat them like "walking wallets"
-Are lousy lovers
Get Sexual
The direct opposite of all these is sexual confidence. To get an insight into what sexual confidence is, just watch any "bad boy" in action -- one of those obnoxious, selfish, abusive jerks that women swear they hate, yet flock to like ants discovering a candy factory. Why are women attracted to these guys? Because females think with their emotions, not with logic -- and Bad Boys are sexually exciting .
And just what determines sexual confidence? Sexually confident men:
-Are challenges, not feet-kissing doormats
-Don't make excuses for who they are -- they exude sexuality and they're comfortable with their natural masculinity
-Assume that they're "the catch," not the woman
-Are unpredictable, untamed and can't be tied down
-Aren't afraid of being who they are
-Have no interest in being PC, morphing their true selves to gain female approval, or being overly nice
-Don't have to trade money or gifts for sex (a.k.a. "dating")
-Always control the relationship
-Never tolerate any female BS
-Radiate sexually-charged body language
-Flirt easily and well
-Are natural leaders, not followers
-Unabashedly look at women's bodies
-Don't care if they score with a particular woman, because they know that there are many others waiting in line. They want sex, but they don't need it -- they aren't desperate and groveling for it
-Are constantly unavailable
-Never apologize for who they are
-Act like men around women, not wusses.
In other words, sexually confident men aren't afraid to be themselves or to exert their natural sexuality -- and don't really care what society thinks of them. Unlike bad boys, sexually confident men are not abusive toward women -- in fact, they love the company of women and treat them very well. And women can't keep their hands off them.
The good news is, a man doesn't have to be built like Arnold Schwarzenegger or look like Brad Pitt to be sexually confident and attract women. But he does have to tap into his natural masculinity and let it shine out for the female population to see.
When a man becomes confident and secure about his sexuality, he immediately asserts his independence and individuality. He becomes more selective. His self-image has been enhanced and he is comfortable being who he is instead of constantly changing his behavior to fit into society's current format.
Women can look into his eyes and read his body language and instantly know that he's a good lover. Instead of desperately seeking the approval of women and chasing after them like a puppy dog, he is now the "desired one," and women pursue him because he has transformed himself from a doormat into a challenge.
As the old saying goes, "Do what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always gotten." If you want to be sexually confident, all you have to do is be the man nature intended you to be.
Matthew Fitzgerald is the author of Sex-Ploytation . He has appeared on radio shows from coast-to-coast in the United States and in Canada, and has been featured on the Montel show and The Other Half. |
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| oldraven |
| I blame Oprah and Soaps. Guess what ladies, those aren't men. They're women in mens clothing. |
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| REFLUX |
LOL what Soc course is this Vince?
I think the article is interesting, lots of good points but obviously it will raise some eyebrows if not taken in stride.
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| PraxGTI |
Women wanted equality and fought for it.
So I treat them equally.
I no longer give up my seat on the bus for any woman.
I no longer open doors for women.
If a woman drops something I dont see any point in helping her pick it up. Or when carrying something heavy I am not taking over for them. Equal.
I no longer give women the special treatment they normally receive. They are equal now and get treated just how I treat everybody else.
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| tegGSR |
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Originally posted by PraxGTI
Women wanted equality and fought for it.
So I treat them equally.
I no longer give up my seat on the bus for any woman.
I no longer open doors for women.
If a woman drops something I dont see any point in helping her pick it up. Or when carrying something heavy I am not taking over for them. Equal.
I no longer give women the special treatment they normally receive. They are equal now and get treated just how I treat everybody else.
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i had never considered looking at it that way thats a very logical way of thinking about it
nicely done:thumbup: :thumbup: |
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| REFLUX |
There's a fine line between treating people equally and being selfish.
People shouldn't mistake one for the other. |
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| Wookey |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
There's a fine line between treating people equally and being selfish.
People shouldn't mistake one for the other.
Agreed. Even if its not a woman i still help them out. Cause im sure if you were carrying something heavy you'd like it if someone help you carry it. |
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| PraxGTI |
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Originally posted by Wookey
Agreed. Even if its not a woman i still help them out. Cause im sure if you were carrying something heavy you'd like it if someone help you carry it.
naw im pretty independant and stuborn. I dont want help unless I ask for it.
I was raised "open doors for women" and things like that. but I wont do that anymore.
If any person (male of female) asks for my help and I have time, I will help them...just saying that women get no favortism. |
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| ozzmodan |
I think issue is more prevalent in urban centres. Personally from growing up in a relatively small town, the values I got were quite a bit more traditional than might be prevalent in comparison with popular urban cultures.
Kyle |
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| oldraven |
| I open doors for my wife, and that's about it. I hold doors for everybody, though. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by oldraven
I open doors for my wife, and that's about it. I hold doors for everybody, though.
Me too, male female, if they're close I'll hold the door, otherwise it seems rude. |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Me too, male female, if they're close I'll hold the door, otherwise it seems rude.
Same.
So what do you guys think of this article? |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
Same.
So what do you guys think of this article?
I think there's a lot of truth to it. I just fear what some guys might consider 'sexual confidence'. There's a line. There will always be a line. But, that goes for being a doormat for the female half of the species too.
Seriously, women do control the relationship now, and they do use sex as a form of control. |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Seriously, women do control the relationship now
OK, I'm really sad to have to say this but....
I agree completely and that's not a good thing. And I think that's a big reason why we have an epidemic of divorce nowadays. I've observed enough relationships lately where the woman wears the pants and treats the man like he is just another one of her children. It's so demeening and I dunno why any guy would want to treat a woman well in such a relationship.
I got a thank you note for a wedding gift recently in which the new wife had written the following:
"Thanks for your gift...blah blah...I can't wait to start decorating MY home...blah blah... PS. As I reread the card I realized that I should have written 'OUR home' etc... however I'm sure you know it will be me doing the decorating. My husband doesn't have the best taste."
To me that just sums up the problem with women to a T...Your home? Nice to see you think of this as a partnership. Your husband doesn't have the best taste? Wow, nice to see you admire him/respect him/value his input. Hmm, I wonder if you also mean that his taste in women isn't the best either? :D I'm not really suprised tho... the guy in question is a lap dog.
Personally if I treat my guy like he's important, he just naturally treats me good and it works out for both of us. If I treat him like dirt, he treats me like dirt and then everyone's unhappy. But I think that article perhaps is a step too far.... But maybe it's just me. :dunno: |
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| REFLUX |
Good post!
Maybe the reason why you're noticing that guys are becoming "lap dogs" is because it actually IS more prominent now.
But I'm not certain enough to say that there are MORE women wearing the pants in a relationship than men (i.e. dominant female, submissive male).
It sticks out in your head probably because it was a rarity to see dominant female/submissive male relationships but now that there is an increase, compared to the past it just seems more common.
Possibly on the whole, it's beginning to even out more while still having a bit more weight on the dominant male/submissive female "norm."
Regardless of whether male or female is the dominant one, mutual respect is more important than fighting for control & power, it's just a pity that few ppl seem to realize this. |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
mutual respect is more important than fighting for control & power, it's just a pity that few ppl seem to realize this.
Amen to that! Too bad so many people are motivated by selfishness these days. :( |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
But I'm not certain enough to say that there are MORE women wearing the pants in a relationship than men (i.e. dominant female, submissive male).
It sticks out in your head probably because it was a rarity to see dominant female/submissive male relationships but now that there is an increase, compared to the past it just seems more common.
Watch any sitcom on any given day of the week and try to find an instance where the woman isn't dominant. It may not be more common in the world, but it is practically expected and portrayed as proper thanks to entertainment and media.
Archie Bunker was the last dominant male on Television. And Heathcliff Huckstable epitomized male submission. |
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| Markgase2000 |
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Originally posted by PraxGTI
Women wanted equality and fought for it.
So I treat them equally.
I no longer give up my seat on the bus for any woman.
I no longer open doors for women.
If a woman drops something I dont see any point in helping her pick it up. Or when carrying something heavy I am not taking over for them. Equal.
I no longer give women the special treatment they normally receive. They are equal now and get treated just how I treat everybody else.
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I kinda agree however it seems to backfire for the most part.
Heres my take ,
Women want equality (my translation) They dont want to be excluded or dont want to be treated as an object.
They still for the most part want men to be a gentleman open doors help with heavy lifting ect... , treat them with respect (my translation) I dont open a door or help ect... and they get angry and I become "not a gentleman".
Women are still women no matter how "equal" they want us to treat them they still want to be somewhat treated like a "lesser" in some aspects and a "greater" in others.
Confusing but thats my take and man oh man women who are extreme feminists tend to be the biggest hipocrites I ever met in my entire life! I have many examples I can share but I dont want to divulge to deeply on this topic , I consider my self extremely confused and clueless as to what women "REALLY" want.
Thats why people write books "Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars" its cus we are not made equall and therefore only in some aspects should we treat each other with true equallity.
We have different needs and wants that thru nature contradict alot of the equallity issues IMO so Im just gonna live my life and wing it , try to please women indavidually as best I can and hope for the best.
Nobodys better than nobody thats the main thing.
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| Jord@n |
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Originally posted by Markgase2000
I kinda agree however it seems to backfire for the most part.
Heres my take ,
Women want equality (my translation) They dont want to be excluded or dont want to be treated as an object.
They still for the most part want men to be a gentleman open doors help with heavy lifting ect... , treat them with respect (my translation) I dont open a door or help ect... and they get angry and I become "not a gentleman".
Women are still women no matter how "equal" they want us to treat them they still want to be somewhat treated like a "lesser" in some aspects and a "greater" in others.
Confusing but thats my take and man oh man women who are extreme feminists tend to be the biggest hipocrites I ever met in my entire life! I have many examples I can share but I dont want to divulge to deeply on this topic , I consider my self extremely confused and clueless as to what women "REALLY" want.
Thats why people write books "Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars" its cus we are not made equall and therefore only in some aspects should we treat each other with true equallity.
We have different needs and wants that thru nature contradict alot of the equallity issues IMO so Im just gonna live my life and wing it , try to please women indavidually as best I can and hope for the best.
Nobodys better than nobody thats the main thing.
:D
I agree with what Mark is getting at through his poor grammar and spelling. :thumbup: :lol:
It seems like they want the best of both worlds. |
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| Miss Nikki Sixx |
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Originally posted by bluesuburbansky
I've observed enough relationships lately where the woman wears the pants and treats the man like he is just another one of her children. It's so demeening and I dunno why any guy would want to treat a woman well in such a relationship.
Normally I don't like to post because it is too much effort to log in, write and log out (haha) but not for this topic! I agree with bluesuburbansky 100%.
Women ARE wearing the pants in many relationships! To me, it boggles my mind simple because the observed treatment towards men (like children) is something that I could never do to another adult out of RESPECT, let alone a partner! The whole "you can't do too much of ___" or that "you have to ask me" attitude is absurd.
Where do women get the idea they can act like that? Why are those men letting themselves be treated like insignificant beings?
I ask: Is that what these women want, seriously?? Why?
In my opinion, respect, like in all other relationships (work, home, friends) is crucial. It goes both ways and none of this women>men.
What's funny is that in my country, you would never ever see this happen! hahaha |
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| PraxGTI |
Well I think the confusion where the line is no longer being drawn is simple.
Extreme feminists want to dominate as men have seemingly done so for many hundreds of years. Personally I think these Extremist feminists are a hinderance to our society.
Any woman that walks around spouting that all men are pigs and small minded and stupid (pretty much covers all large scale feminists with the whole "my brains bigger than yours so im smarter" concept) is just sexist towards men.
Sexism that used to be men against women is now turning into sexism of women against men...some women of which now think that men are useless and not worth the time of day (slowly creeping towards lesbianism at this point).
As long as there are pig headed people there will always be sexism, and sexism is all it comes down to. With new laws in place many women have the power and ability to just walk all over men. If a women goes into a police station and states "so and so raped me" and it didnt actually happen, they will arrest and ask questions later, whereas if a man were to do the same thing they would probably just laugh at him. Women have the inate ability to use their (as seen by males) feminine and fragile qualities to their advantage to manipulate anyone into believing them over some guy, regardless of whether or not the guy is at fault.
There are men that use their strength and power to put fear into women and control them. These men deserve to be burned.
Alternativly
There are women who use their "fragile" nature to manipulate and control men and/or completely ruin their lives.
For example:
Woman cries - guy wants to know what is wrong
Man cries - woman tells guy to get over it already (not always the case)
Things like that happen all the time. In both directions. To both sexes. It needs to stop. Period.
Theres my rant
I just wanted to add this:
I was born and raised to be kind and to treat women with respect and with special care, opening doors for them, pushing their chair in at the table for them, being extra kind and courteous to them just because they are women. This was taught to me by my mother. I think that a lot of mothers try to form their sons into "lap dogs" from the get go, convincing them before they even reach puberty to do absolutly anything and everything a girl wants them to. It was how I was raised and sadly it has taken me until just recently to kick this habit and become equally as demanding towards my girlfriend. We treat eachother with a mutual respect, there is no "one is better or deserves better treatment than the other". It is equal. That is how it should be.
On the Flip side there are girls who are raised or learn to be dependant on men in order to survive. This is also wrong and is the ONLY reason I think that feminists on a normal and non extreme plane of existance are a requirement in this day and age, but with the recent role reversals it will soon be time to have....masculinists to keep men from turning into "lap dogs" and thusly not enjoying their life...just putting up with it as many women have done and still do today. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by PraxGTI
Well I think the confusion where the line is no longer being drawn is simple.
Extreme feminists want to dominate as men have seemingly done so for many hundreds of years. Personally I think these Extremist feminists are a hinderance to our society.
Extremists of any kind are bad business.
Anyway, which culture? I know for a fact that Celt tribes were more often than not led by women, but pretty much the same playing field. Then the Chieftan times came and Men let the Clans. They're not the only women led societies either, in history. |
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| ozzmodan |
Although it's a pretty sketchy time in history as far as what we know, a lot of evidence points to the fact that prior to the rise of the nation state women were very much the "organizers & politicians". It is very much believed that women directed mens hunting, gathering, infrastructure & rudimentary agriculture to achieve goals most efficiently. Women meanwhile assumed the roles of leaders, diplomats, thinkers, homemakers & educators. Both roles were seen as equals. It's assumed it's only after groups of men were sent away far enough for an extending period of time, that a leader within these groups would emerge & would not revert back to their old roles on returning to their tribes, thus causing a role imbalance.
I knew I got the Discovery Civilization channel for a reason
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| PraxGTI |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Extremists of any kind are bad business.
Anyway, which culture? I know for a fact that Celt tribes were more often than not led by women, but pretty much the same playing field. Then the Chieftan times came and Men let the Clans. They're not the only women led societies either, in history.
Mostly European and Asian. Since the dawn of the "civilized" world.
But yes...extremists of any kind are bad...there are extremest men out there that are completely convinced that a womans place is in the kitchen or in the bedroom.
For every one type or person there will be another type on the other end of the spectrum to match. Some kind of crazy balance thing im sure. |
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| REFLUX |
| For once, agreed with PraxGTI's longass post :D |
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| jayla |
My 2 cents and then the female will be gone:
I really think it varies from individual to individual. Take me for example, at work I was carrying two of those culligan water bottles(those big ass heavy ones) and guys non-stop kept asking me if i needed help. I mean I can carry it on my own, however I can understand the reason why they were asking:
a) they saw a female trying to do some heavy lifting and felt obliged to help
b) they really wanted to help, regardless of the fact that I am a female.
However, what really sucks is that no Women offered me help. I'm the kind of person where if there is something that needs to be done, and where men are the first place people go to for help, I do get pissed, but only because I can do it too. Sometimes Women are underestimated.
At the same time I do agree that some Women take it way to far. I mean come on, you can open your own damn door, or pull out your own chair at a restaurant. Or better yet, do those things for your man instead.
One more point: In regards to the whole thing about women wanting the best of both worlds, it goes like this: We want you to treat us like princesses once in awhile only because you want us to be your porn star sex goddess once in awhile. (And some of us treat you like Gods in bed too, boost up your ego, treat you like our big man Superhero)
It's a give-give situation. |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by jayla
We want you to treat us like princesses once in awhile only because you want us to be your porn star sex goddess once in awhile. (And some of us treat you like Gods in bed too, boost up your ego, treat you like our big man Superhero)
It's a give-give situation.
:bowdown: :bowdown: pornstar |
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| GTS Jeff |
| 5 billion years of human evolution eh? Try 100,000 years. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by GTS Jeff
5 billion years of human evolution eh? Try 100,000 years.
Closer to 200,000, actually. Go pick up the current issue of National Geographic. Human genetically traced migration and origin. Very cool. |
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| GTS Jeff |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Closer to 200,000, actually. Go pick up the current issue of National Geographic. Human genetically traced migration and origin. Very cool.
160,000 years according to Google. :D Wouldn't Mr. Fitzgerald be surprised to hear that the Earth wasn't around 5 billion years ago.
The point is, "writers" such as Mr. Fitzgerald should stick to the arts and humanities and not bother trying to be scientific. Invariably, they always screw it up. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by colossus
I have a few friends that work in all/mostly female dominated work places and they've usually described the environments as grand central station of gossip, backstabbing, and petty meaness. It seems it would be more straight forward to work in a mostly male or mixed work place.
I work in a university, where the satff is like 75-85% women, who actually work in the building, the professors rarely work from the building.
I find it one giant soap operah, it's great. I just sit back and laugh, and most of the women know why. |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
I find it one giant soap operah, it's great. I just sit back and laugh, and most of the women know why.
Anyone with a brain can see that us girls like to make things more complicated than they should be. I've seen so many conflict resolution meetings caused by stupid women fighting over petty stuff. If it had been two men, never would have been an issue.
But in defense of us females, you guys would be a disorganized disaster without us. :p |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by bluesuburbansky
But in defense of us females, you guys would be a disorganized disaster without us. :p
99% of the time when I can't find something its because my wife moved it somewhere and didn't tell me. :dunno: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by snugs
99% of the time when I can't find something its because my wife moved it somewhere and didn't tell me. :dunno:
Sounds like our kitchen. Ange can reorganize the thing once a month, and then wonders why I never cook anymore. If I had a chance to learn where shit was, then maybe I'd try more often. Every time I go in there it's a bloody treasure hunt.
It's even better when they put our stuff away, then forget where 'away' is. :rolleyes: |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by oldraven
It's even better when they put our stuff away, then forget where 'away' is. :rolleyes:
lol, and don't forget that its our fault for not knowing where they put it. :p
Its one of the methods of ensuring job security that are hardwired into the female mind. If she continually rearranges everything it is going to be easier for the male to keep her around than it would be to try and find everything himself. |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by snugs
Its one of the methods of ensuring job security that are hardwired into the female mind. If she continually rearranges everything it is going to be easier for the male to keep her around than it would be to try and find everything himself.
OK, I can't speak for married couples and households...could be true what you guys are saying. I wouldn't know.
BUT... I know at work this company would have fallen apart long ago without the women. I work in biotech and our top research scientists are generally men and are really brilliant. BUT it's the women that keep them in check and make sure they are following all teh nit picky government regulations. And if you know anything about biotech, you'll know that a brilliant discovery goes no where without the fine details.
No offense guys but I think women are far more detail oriented. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by bluesuburbansky
No offense guys but I think women are far more detail oriented.
lol, I know too many engineers to ever agree with a claim like that. :p |
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| REFLUX |
| GF's attention to detail > my attention to detail |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by snugs
lol, I know too many engineers to ever agree with a claim like that. :p
I know TONS also (did a year of eng in university) and I still stand by what I said. My bf is one -- and he's way more big picture. He cares about details about certain things but if it's not something that really matters to him, he can't be bothered. I, on the other hand, care about ALL details (or try to).
I know there are women that are disorganized beyond belief but I'm thinking for every female like that there are 5 males that are disorganized. Seriously, I dare you to show me a well organized garage that a woman hasn't had a hand in.... |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by bluesuburbansky
I know there are women that are disorganized beyond belief but I'm thinking for every female like that there are 5 males that are disorganized. Seriously, I dare you to show me a well organized garage that a woman hasn't had a hand in....
....you want to see my garage? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by snugs
....you want to see my garage? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
I know you don't want to see my garage. :( Every time it has looked tidy, it's when Ange has had a whole day with nothing to do. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by oldraven
I know you don't want to see my garage. :( Every time it has looked tidy, it's when Ange has had a whole day with nothing to do.
"honey, where's my new turbo....? It was right here yesterday...." :p |
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| wubba_65 |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
GF's attention to detail > my attention to detail
My Attention to detail > my gf's attention to detail.
When we clean the condo, I'll be the one that moves EVERYTHING out of the way to make sure that it all gets cleaned. She will clean the exposed surfaces and make it look clean but that is about all. Not that there is anything wrong with this 80% of the time, as it does take longer for the hidden areas to get dirty, but they do need cleaning once in a while as well.
Other examples are there, but I don't need to get into them.
As to the garage thing.... My garage goes through a good cleaning at least 3 times/year, and usually after every major project is completed as well. But at any given time, I'll have to look no more than about 2 minutes for an item I haven't laid eyes on in 6 months, even if it isn't in its "right" spot. It might not appear tidy or organized to an outsider (not necc. male or female), but it works for me. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by snugs
"honey, where's my new turbo....? It was right here yesterday...." :p
If I'd just put it on the damn car, I'd know exactly where it is at all times. :rolleyes: |
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| bluesuburbansky |
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Originally posted by oldraven
If I'd just put it on the damn car, I'd know exactly where it is at all times. :rolleyes:
:lol: You sound just like my dad!
As for the rest of the posts, ok maybe I back down.
But seriously, explain to me why most top execs in companies (mostly males) always have a very efficient exec assistant (almost ALWAYS female) to keep their lives in order? How come I don't see men as exec assistants???:dunno: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by bluesuburbansky
:lol: You sound just like my dad!
As for the rest of the posts, ok maybe I back down.
But seriously, explain to me why most top execs in companies (mostly males) always have a very efficient exec assistant (almost ALWAYS female) to keep their lives in order? How come I don't see men as exec assistants???:dunno:
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. But you already know the answer to your question, and I bet it has a lot less to do with organizational skills than........... other factors. |
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Originally posted by oldraven
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. But you already know the answer to your question, and I bet it has a lot less to do with organizational skills than........... other factors.
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| Jord@n |
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