| StraightSix |
I keep hearing about delays currently with ro-ro.
What's the shipping situation looking like? |
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| gaijin |
| better question... what the hell is a ro-ro? (I know it's a transport ship. I'm wondering how it differs from a container ship) |
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| MoxMonkey |
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Originally posted by gaijin
better question... what the hell is a ro-ro? (I know it's a transport ship. I'm wondering how it differs from a container ship)
ro-ro is roll on roll off |
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| Braden |
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Originally posted by MoxMonkey
ro-ro is roll on roll off
Basically like a deck ship with several levels. the cars get droven on and droven off, the keys are simply left in the transmission.
New cars get first dibs on ROFO, and spring time tends to be busy for them, new cars being shipped and also growing numbers of imported cars. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| during busy months sometimes used cars arent offered any spots because the new cars take up the entire ship, this seems to happen in the middle of summer when there is alot of used cars to come as well |
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| youngbex |
| this is the horible news! |
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| mx73someday |
| We need some relief soon :) |
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| jdms13rhd |
| yes relief would be nice. Last summer was worse than most because all the dealerships had that gay employee rates. |
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| phoenix |
| so if we do group buys with cars guys, we can get a container for roughly 3-4k, which will hold 3 cars (my college buds dad is an ex pres of a shiping company in montreal), is that cheaper than ro-ro?? |
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| mx73someday |
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Originally posted by phoenix
so if we do group buys with cars guys, we can get a container for roughly 3-4k, which will hold 3 cars (my college buds dad is an ex pres of a shiping company in montreal), is that cheaper than ro-ro??
I doubt you could get a 40ft container for 3-4k including all the loading/unloading fees. It might seem like a good idea before it leaves Japans, but there are alot more landing expenses associated with containers than RORO vehicles. |
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| fairladytt |
I was just reading on a competitors web site and saw the company posted delays. they expect shiping delays from japan up to 1-3 months and all auction broker and dealer cars.
Well that is not good news for me or any potential buyer. leave yourself a ton of room and i hope you are all patient. |
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| mx73someday |
| It seems like a long time since the last shipment. In previous years, May-July were good months for RORO, I hope this year is the same. |
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| m3power |
| if my car is legal in May and i buy it now, what are the chances that it will it arrive in May? |
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| Braden |
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Originally posted by m3power
if my car is legal in May and i buy it now, what are the chances that it will it arrive in May?
Not great. With the number of cars waiting to come over, the people who have been waiting longest will ussally have first dibs on spots. early to mid-june would be more realistic. There really is no controlling it, month and a half to two months is average. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| IC is looking into a few ways to get cars here as well as ro-ro, but as with the last 3 years this trend has not changed and getting a car early in the winter and storing it until summer is the best option |
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| mx73someday |
| Container shipping looks very promising, container vessels leave every week, so the wait should be 4-6 weeks to arrive in Vancouver from purchase. We're estimating it should cost between $300-500 extra for each vehicle, however we see the possibility of it costing more without any control. As soon as we're comfortable with the risks, we'll be emailing all of the customers who have made purchases already to ask if they are willing to pay the extra costs to ship by container. And after the first couple container shipments, we'll offer a separate container quote price for all of our Broker Stock vehicles. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| it sounds like a good idea but needs to be worked through so there is no unforseen problems as there always is with containers but once a process is put in place it should be all good |
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| gorfllub |
| I have cars sitting in Japan waiting to come over. Have you figured out anything about containers? |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| the idea and process is still be worked through in order to limit the problems associated with this type of shipping, IC should be starting to use containers as an alternative fairly shortly |
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| gorfllub |
Well I am working and sorting as well. I need my cars out next week or the week after. Currently, If I get my own container, I have room for 1-2 more cars depending on size.
If anyone has a vehicle they want shipped (Container will be coming direct to Saskatoon) Let me know and we can split shipping/loading costs. |
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| m3power |
| I may be interested, did you purchase your cars from IC? |
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| gorfllub |
No I got them myself.......
But I need to get them here soon. I can't afford for them to sit in Japan for 6 months. I was thinking of buying something else to fill up the container myself, but have not found the right car yet. Soo.... I am getting quotes right now, hopefully for a sailing next week or the week after.
Doesnt leave me much time to get a car and get it ready to go. Thats why it may be better if someone has a car waiting to go. |
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| m3power |
| well my car was bought from IC, so im not really sure how that is gonna work then?? |
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| gorfllub |
| Yeah. Thats a different story I spose.... |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| IC is trying to make things easier not more difficult so pass this by Christian before making any moves or plans |
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| gorfllub |
| Thats Cool. I actually got another car and my container is full. Should be leaving next week if all goes well. |
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| reeskm |
Any updates on this problem? I have a really sweet 180sx sitting in Japan that I'm itching to get.
Does the fact I bought my car at auction in mid February change this situation? I know there is no implicit guarantee on shipping ETA, but this is a little dissapointing given I thought this was sorted out for me in late February and I estimated it to arrive by now. The last thing on my mind then was that it would still be sitting there waiting to ship. |
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| gorfllub |
Well, What I heard is RO-RO's are booked beyond September. Don't know how true that is, but I sure aint waiting that long.
My cars are being loaded into container this week for next week departure. I will be working on another container load next week as well. Where is your car in Japan?
Once again, I could split shipping with someone (such as yourself) who may be interested.
Porbably ship the next container in about 4 weeks if all goes well. (Which is mainly finding 4 cars to stuff in the tin can). |
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| reeskm |
I appreciate the offer gorfllub but honestly I'd rather wait than make other arangements. I've already paid IC to do all the hard work for me and I'm sure they'll come through.
So is there any way we can substantiate these rumors that ro-ro ships are booked through september? |
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| Ti Pit |
it's not true..RO/RO is starting to flow again as we speak
there was one small ro/ro shipment that actually left on the 20th arriving in Vancouver on the 4th. The shipping companies also mentioned that there should be some more spaces available this month.
Christian is also looking at setting up Container shipping, he has a few already in the works. Soon this option will be available for everyone at an extra cost. Container ships leave every week.
As for shipping order, I believe it goes with when you ordered combined with the legal import date of each car.. you'll have to check that with Christian. |
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| gorfllub |
| Well, if Ro-Ro's are coming again, I will be happpy! |
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| reeskm |
Yes, I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for a container shipment as long as it was endorsed through IC. Basically, if I was importing myself I'd do the arrangements. But I think it's a valid thing to collectively pool our cash and get a great deal on container shipments anyway. A small peeve I have here is that I had no idea that there would be the possiblity of waiting this long before it even shipped! Also, Christian who I have been dealing with is a great guy but seems so busy I have yet to hear from him on this. I've emailed and phoned him this last week but heard nothing in reply. He has told me "I'd be the first to know once your car ships." So that's ok. I just have lots of questions.
Yeah, I'm impatient a bit. I guess this forum is great though because we can all catch up on some of the info floating around! I just wish my car was tracked like a Fedex package :)
The other thing I don't get is that you'd think that if ro-ro shipping is delayed in general in this hi-season that more ships would be hanging out in Japan to cover the demand! Then I could see the exporter's billing their fees to compensate etc... |
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| mx73someday |
There have been some RORO spaces in May, this rumor about no spaces until September is absolutely false. It seems every time there is a 1-2 month span where space is sparse, we hear this kind of rumor.
May-July have historically been months where RORO was smooth and consistent.
We have a couple containers coming over, so soon we'll be able to offer container shipments as a normal option. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
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Originally posted by reeskm
A small peeve I have here is that I had no idea that there would be the possiblity of waiting this long before it even shipped!
I dont know what to say to this other than you should have asked or used the search function. The cars are thousands of kilometers away and nothing in the process is quick or brisk but Christian does know where the cars are and makes the best plans he can to get them here ...it is your car and your money so dont hesitate to ask |
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| reeskm |
Well good news after all! Christian phoned me last night and it seems my car is to ship sometime next week! I should have it by early June!
Forget my earlier comments. It seems I was just getting a little antsy. :thumbup:
I had my car bought at auction in mid to late Feb, so I guess you could say that if someone bought one at roughly the same time they could expect it to arrive by mid to late June.
Keep in mind Christian told me this was a *preliminary* notice and it's somewhat possible my car may not make it onto this next shipment. But hey, I'm in line so it's on it's way!
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| gorfllub |
| Cool. So is this going Ro-Ro or Container? |
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| reeskm |
I didn't ask exactly. I would assume so as he didn't say it would be shipping another way, and I didn't pay any extra to get priority. Maybe mx73someday can comment? :)
Either way, as long as it gets here any way is ok by me. :p
So from what I understand RO-RO is like a ferry boat? Like those trucks with the double decker car racks? And a container of course is a big box. Is that right? |
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| mx73someday |
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Originally posted by gorfllub
Cool. So is this going Ro-Ro or Container?
Yes, RORO. |
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| se-i |
| Anynews for me lol. I have a gts-t type m and a fairlady. I think they should both be on container. They both came from broker stock. I think the gts-t is comeong before the fairlady. I dont really know yet lol. |
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| reeskm |
mx73someday: any chance of including more shipping info on the 'customer's vehicles' page? Is it even possible to mark maybe the vessel and track the transit? To tell when the vehicle reaches Vancouver? Is in customs? I know you probably get a phone call when cars ship from the exporter or something. In this day and age of global shipping, at least some of this info must be online, right? I know this feature would not really speed up anything, but maybe this way buyers would be more assured or less in the dark about their shipment and be more at ease? Plus, it's pure entertainment for kids like me!
Just a thought for those that are still waiting to hear some news :) |
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| StraightSix |
| ^ have to say that would be nice :) |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
Your Import Concern Tracking number is #0002385834732 for your : 1991 Nissan 180sx - Auction
Please enter the tracking number into our order tracker database to see up to the minute process and location information
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http://www.importconcern.ca/tracking/access.phtp
Thanks
IC Staff :) |
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| reeskm |
Yeah something like that! That link was dead tho :P
The idea is sound. Even if it only lists "awaiting shipment", "sailing the seven seas" or "Pirates!" Yo ho! :P |
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| fairladytt |
For me i have been waiting 8 weeks now for shipping and it will probably be another 3 weeks before the car leaves Japan. I just don't think about the idea of driving this car anymore it makes waiting easy. I think over the last 8 weeks the novelty of driving a 300zx RHD has worn off for me. I would like to see container shipping available asap. for some where money is no concern then it should have been offered a long time ago.
I like your idea of the tracking system doubt it would happen. it would mean twice as much work for the guys at importconcern |
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| gorfllub |
You know, I dont think RHD cars are a novelty. I think they are dangerous and a pain to drive. (Passing, Turning across oncoming traffic, ETC.) I would consider a RHD as a "toy" but not as a daily driver.
I just dont know how you RHD's do it day in and day out! |
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| Xtra_X |
quote:
Originally posted by Braden
Basically like a deck ship with several levels. the cars get droven on and droven off, the keys are simply left in the transmission.
New cars get first dibs on ROFO, and spring time tends to be busy for them, new cars being shipped and also growing numbers of imported cars.
Why wouold the keep the key's in the transmission? |
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| fairladytt |
he meant ignition, imagine how many cars, and how long it would take to sort all the keys for the cars and store them very very time consuming they leave them it as a huge time saver.
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
quote:
Originally posted by gorfllub
You know, I dont think RHD cars are a novelty. I think they are dangerous and a pain to drive. (Passing, Turning across oncoming traffic, ETC.) I would consider a RHD as a "toy" but not as a daily driver.
I just dont know how you RHD's do it day in and day out!
its very easy actually .... |
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| fairladytt |
quote:
Originally posted by gorfllub
You know, I dont think RHD cars are a novelty.
Definitions of novelty on the Web:
originality by virtue of being new and surprising |
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| gorfllub |
Liar! Lol.
I Know it too! I see RHD's try and pass on a 2-lane highway and almost kill everyone around.
Of course, I guess you could stay behind that Semi-Truck fo rthe next 200 miles! Heheheh
I sold a camera system to a guy for his RHD so he could see better.... I dont know how it worked out though... |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
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Originally posted by gorfllub
Liar! Lol.
I Know it too! I see RHD's try and pass on a 2-lane highway and almost kill everyone around.
Of course, I guess you could stay behind that Semi-Truck fo rthe next 200 miles! Heheheh
I sold a camera system to a guy for his RHD so he could see better.... I dont know how it worked out though...
I havent had any problems ....agressive stupid drivers can get in trouble but not a turbo car that hangs back so it can see and then rip by when its open .... |
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| reeskm |
The argument that RHD are dangerous in Canada is bull. Cars never drive like maniacs, cut in and out of lanes, or cause problems because it's the driver that does the driving. So it's the driver that can't drive that's to blame, not the RHD car!
Same thing with speed: Speed dosen't kill, a stupid driver does.
I think my auction grade 3.5 '91 180sx is a bargain. It has virtually no rust, built on a solid reliable platform that has worked in North America and the rest of the world for 10 years while in production, is safe, is RWD with a front engine (a dream to fix in the shop!), and has a 4 cylinder gas slurper instead of V6 gas burner. I couldn't possibly hope to pay $8000 or less for a car in this kind of condition, in this kind of shape, with 100,000 kms on the dial. Plus, I've driven a beater for years and have a 6* insurance rating. I did that so I could get one of these today :P
Buying a RHD car and making it work for you is what counts here. If it won't suit your lifestyle, then stick to a domestic car. I rented a Mazda 6 on a business trip in early April and it was quite possibly one of the cheapest (by sticker price at the dealer) in it's class, sickly fast and speedy, and the coolest looking rental I have ever driven. |
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| Ca_Silvia |
quote:
Originally posted by gorfllub
You know, I dont think RHD cars are a novelty. I think they are dangerous and a pain to drive. (Passing, Turning across oncoming traffic, ETC.) I would consider a RHD as a "toy" but not as a daily driver.
I just dont know how you RHD's do it day in and day out!
You really don't know how easy it is to adjust untill you drive it as a daily. I drive my Silvia to work and back everyday and i drive a LHD delivery truck for work so THAT get interesting!;) |
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| JDMGoodness |
With container shipping I would imagine the pickup is at Annacis Terminal as opposed to Fraser Wharves?
So Debbie must be seeing less imported cars through her office.
I wonder how much more legwork is needed for container shipping.
Seems like the quickest way to go right now. |
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| gorfllub |
It is quicker. (My cars were unloaded last week in Van, and are being picked up by the trucks today!)
BUT it cost nearly twice as much in shipping..... Booo.... |
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