| Lane WC |
Having purchased a 1990 Fairlady Z twin turbo with import concern I would like to give some feed back for potential Fairlady Z buyers. First off, I purchased the vehicle back in August 2005 with 97000km on the OD. The car has seen nothing but garages ever since. First the vehicle required new tires from the start, all new tie-rods, roughly 1000 in suspension clean up, 900 in fuel system repairs and misc items to have the car registered. having reached just barely over 100 000 k the car's tranny decided to die while moving from calgary to grand prairie leaving me stranded in Leduc with a 3800 dollar tranny rebuild, the last straw came this wednesday when the motor decided to die at 101000km. This car has been nothing but a frigen nightmare and would caution Fairlady Z buyers. This has nothing to do with import concern as a buisness, and everything to do with the build quality of the Fairlady Z.
take care
Lane |
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| baker_jeff |
| Sucks that you got stuck with a lemon man. Such is the risk of buying a car sight unseen. Hope something very good happens to you soon! :) |
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| Will_HA2 |
| Which one did you buy? |
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| gaijin |
| That really sucks, man, but I hope you're not trying to pin the blame on IC for this. I had to spend $2300 to get my skyline to pass safety this week, but it wasn't unexpected. THese are 15 year old cars, and given that they're performance cars, they've likely been driven like perfprmance cars. Very regrettable, but hopefully future buyers will take this as a lesson that things like this should be expected sometimes |
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| Braden |
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Originally posted by Lane WC
This has nothing to do with import concern as a buisness, and everything to do with the build quality of the 300.
He's not blaming it on IC.
That is really shitty luck. Sorry to hear about this. I wish you better luck in the future. |
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| superspeed |
| ouch.....if your parting pm me...dam that sucks..cause the z's arnt cheap at all to repair......=\ |
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| gaijin |
| guess i missed the part about not blaming IC. My bad, and truly bad luck for Lane |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
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Originally posted by superspeed
ouch.....if your parting pm me...dam that sucks..cause the z's arnt cheap at all to repair......=\
yeah and that was the biggest part in not keeping mine as it is not fu nto work on or get parts and pay for them $$$ :( |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Lane WC
and everything to do with the build quality of the 300.
That's complete BS. There is nothing wrong with the build quality of the Z32s. Don't blame your lack of research, and buying an overseas car sight unseen, on "build quality". ???
:blink:
You knew the risks... (or should have).
There are reasons why you would pay more for a CDN or US spec car with a known history, and why they are worth it. |
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| youngbex |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
That's complete BS. There is nothing wrong with the build quality of the Z32s. Don't blame your lack of research, and buying an overseas car sight unseen, on "build quality". ???
:blink:
You knew the risks... (or should have).
There are reasons why you would pay more for a CDN or US spec car with a known history, and why they are worth it.
and also why landed cars with passed OOP's are also worth more but sucks on your luck mang |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
That's complete BS. There is nothing wrong with the build quality of the Z32s. Don't blame your lack of research, and buying an overseas car sight unseen, on "build quality". ???
:blink:
You knew the risks... (or should have).
There are reasons why you would pay more for a CDN or US spec car with a known history, and why they are worth it.
Fair Enough
As far as I am concerned you can preech your so called 300 for all it's worth because I will never recommend buying a Z32 japanese or north american spec, There is a reason it failed early in north america genius.
3 Simple Reasons so You can Understand since you cannot pressent a reasonable argument
Expensive
Expensive to repair, expensive parts, expensive to maintain, not to mention shitty gas millage which adds up in the expensive department, 1 tonn pick up trucks get better gas millage than this car.
Hard to work on
Shops turn down this car because it's too complicated to work on, my own nissan dealership wont work on this car because it's difficult and time consuming, huge bills with this bitch, time = money!
Here is the biggie
Unreliable
Blown tranny then a motor weeks later, speaks the world of reason to me, dont need to explain further but will be awaiting your next "bs" comment on this.
Sorry Inzane for singling you out but I cant stand people who scream bs and cant prove otherwise, other than this is what I say so you shoud believe it because I typed BS.
take care
Lane |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Lane WC
There is a reason it failed early in north america genius.
Its called market forces. The japanese yen at the time made this car and others more and more expensive. The sales figures were inversely proportional to the increasing price. As well, this affected all the japanese sports cars at that time: the FD RX-7, Stealth/3000GT, MKIV Supra, and MR-2. The bottom fell out of the japanese sports car market as buyers started putting their money elsewhere (SUVs, etc.), and it wasn't until luxury brands like Porsche, Audi and Mercedes started revitilizing the sports car market that the trends reversed. People were suddenly willing to drop $60K+ on a Euro brand, but not previously on a Japanese car.
You need to take an automotive history lesson as its obvious you weren't old enough back in the mid-90s to understand what was really going on.
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Here is the biggie
Unreliable
Blown tranny then a motor weeks later, speaks the world of reason to me, dont need to explain further but will be awaiting your next "bs" comment on this.
I cant stand people who scream bs and cant prove otherwise,
You couldn't be more wrong on this point. There is real life reliability data and tonnes of collective owners' experiences out there that more than nullify your one single personal *claim* of poor reliability and build quality.
Owner neglect and abuse and lack of maintenance can be the downfall of ANY car no matter how well they are made. |
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| superspeed |
| my z has 225 xxxkm and it runs still fine and strong =\ no problems on it what so ever. all i did to it was new radiator casue the factory stock one blew =) (TOO THIN). They are reliable but i do agree not good on gas its a v6 so its expected. My uncle's z32 has even more km about 275 xxx and it runs strong as well. |
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| maybe |
| First question, If your so worried about gas mileage then why are you buying a sports car? |
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| superspeed |
| i m just saying LOL its not the greatest lol |
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| raceready68 |
Thats the chance you take when buying a car thats 15yrs old and over. No one is to blame things wear out over time at least you body is rust free un like most Candian and US spec cars.
You have to also keep in mind the 300zx TT was close to $60,000 brand new and is a high end car the price of parts and repairs is going to be expencive. |
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| maybe |
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Originally posted by raceready68
Thats the chance you take when buying a car thats 15yrs old and over. No one is to blame things wear out over time at least you body is rust free un like most Candian and US spec cars.
You have to also keep in mind the 300zx TT was close to $60,000 brand new and is a high end car the price of parts and repairs is going to be expencive.
Well said. |
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| thenaes |
Dear Lane
I was considering purchasing/importing a jdm 300zx simply because of the lower price. But I have questions about your expirence. When you first bought you vehicle were they any other prelimnaries you did to "prep" the car for its arrival (other then OOP) in Canada such a total fluid swap? Or would you consider the OOP to cover all those things (this question is for everyone) that of which you should be concerned about? Lane now that your motor is blow, you must be sure to consider a motor swap.... what possibly would you have to worry about after that?
Also "superspeed" why do you think your particular vehicle has lasted longer then Lane's? Have you drivin it in the winter? is it of the VG30DETT engine model (Twin Turbo) or NA, also is the vehicle automatic or standard? speaking of your 275,xxx you surely have replaced something more then the a radiator cap. Also what kind of oil do you run with your vehicle???
I would like to thank lane on his post because it has made me ever more the careful on my process to possibly purchase a 300zx.
From an inspiring future 300zx owner |
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| superspeed |
| my uncles with 275 xxx just does regular maintaince like oil changes on time stuff like that and it runs fine =\ and mine is the same i bought the car with a blown rad and was sitting outside in the winter for over a yr. i just put in new rad, new water pump, belts, put timing back to normal from samaru autos and that was all thats needed. Only thing i plan to do is replace driveshaft casue the two piece driveshafts that come on the z's suck. The center bearings always crap out. Other then that, thats pretty much all i did. I havn't even done spark plugs yet lol, and yes mine is a N/A and same with my uncles. |
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| CanadianSkyline |
Im gonna say something controversial here.
You are being a pussy. First of all, you dont import a car sight unseen without realizing that there ARE going to be things wrong with it that you need to spend money on (sometimes you get lucky, other times you dont).
There is nothing wrong with z32's (other than that fact that the v6's sound like ass and them being overweight), you may have been stuck with a lemon (car that didnt have regular maintenance performed, or the previous owner drove the shit out of it for all you know), but from the sounds of it, you just took the car to nissan everytime something went wrong and paid up the ass for it. If you had some balls you could have cut all those costs in half by doing the work yourself (working on cars is not hard, even fairlady's, just might take a little more time). You could have picked up a used auto tranny for like 350 dollars and saved yourself a 3800 dollar rebuild on a car worth only double that.
As far as tires and tie rods, that is completely uncontrollable (and im assuming you paid up the ass to have those installed too). You bought a car sight unseen with close to 100 000 km on it, you kind of half to expect that tires/tie rods/suspension are going to be worn out on the car.
To me it sounds like you were an un educated bandwagon buyer who, because of your own mistakes, has some hatred against z32's.
Turbo cars are not cheap to maintain period, there is a trade off when you buy a z32 for cheap in japan, and it comes in the form of not being able to see the car before you buy it.
Now get over it, and next time dont get yourself into a car that you cannot handle. |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by CanadianSkyline
Im gonna say something controversial here.
You are being a pussy. First of all, you dont import a car sight unseen without realizing that there ARE going to be things wrong with it that you need to spend money on (sometimes you get lucky, other times you dont).
There is nothing wrong with z32's (other than that fact that the v6's sound like ass and them being overweight), you may have been stuck with a lemon (car that didnt have regular maintenance performed, or the previous owner drove the shit out of it for all you know), but from the sounds of it, you just took the car to nissan everytime something went wrong and paid up the ass for it. If you had some balls you could have cut all those costs in half by doing the work yourself (working on cars is not hard, even fairlady's, just might take a little more time). You could have picked up a used auto tranny for like 350 dollars and saved yourself a 3800 dollar rebuild on a car worth only double that.
As far as tires and tie rods, that is completely uncontrollable (and im assuming you paid up the ass to have those installed too). You bought a car sight unseen with close to 100 000 km on it, you kind of half to expect that tires/tie rods/suspension are going to be worn out on the car.
To me it sounds like you were an un educated bandwagon buyer who, because of your own mistakes, has some hatred against z32's.
Turbo cars are not cheap to maintain period, there is a trade off when you buy a z32 for cheap in japan, and it comes in the form of not being able to see the car before you buy it.
Now get over it, and next time dont get yourself into a car that you cannot handle.
And you just another tool buddy
Think of it this way I am giving future buyers an insight into what they might be purchasing, I really dont give a fuck about the car man, I fuckin packed that son of a bitch in.
What I have provided to future fairlady z buyers is my experience and was reporting in on that.
As far as the transmission I was read it again, stranded in leduc on my move up north asshole so dont give me that fucking bullshit man, you need to read and comprehend.
And you have no clue man you make the car sound like it easy to work on, do you even own a fucking fairlady??? I have better things to do like say work have a life besides working on a car, what do you do in your spare time oh wait your another fucking greasy punk, got it.
You want to call me a pussy here's my # (403)827-6176 |
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| rhd rx7 |
| its just his opinion,he is allowed to express it.he is just trying to give a heads up on buying.i woundn't agree that its just 300zx's though,cause it is any rhd car you purchase.i bought my rx7 turbo in october and $3000 dollars later and 6 months its finnally legal.its luck of the draw unless you spend a serious amount of research and money when buying.i think to call the guy a pussy just for his opinion (you might not agree) is a little fkin wrong though,dont ya think:dunno: |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lane WC
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And you have no clue man you make the car sound like it easy to work on, do you even own a fucking fairlady??? I have better things to do like say work have a life besides working on a car, [QUOTE]
Then why did you buy a Fairlazy 300zx if you knew it was impossible to work on and also if you didnt like to work on cars in the first place ... you should have bought a brand new 350z with warranty so you could drive it to the dealership and when it breaks down they will give you a temp 350z to drive around while yours gets worked on so your life is not disturbed in any way .... |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Lane WC
What I have provided to future fairlady z buyers is my experience and was reporting in on that.
No, what you are doing with this thread is fabricating a lie.
Let me quote from your first post AGAIN:
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and everything to do with the build quality of the 300.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the build quality of a Z32. Don't blame the problems YOU experienced with THE particular car that you imported on the whole model run.
Your "claim" is completely unsubstantiated.
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And you have no clue man you make the car sound like it easy to work on, do you even own a fucking fairlady???
I have a clue, I own one, and I do most of my own work on it with no mechanics background. |
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| youngbex |
quote:
Originally posted by Lane WC
And you just another tool buddy
Think of it this way I am giving future buyers an insight into what they might be purchasing, I really dont give a fuck about the car man, I fuckin packed that son of a bitch in.
What I have provided to future fairlady z buyers is my experience and was reporting in on that.
As far as the transmission I was read it again, stranded in leduc on my move up north asshole so dont give me that fucking bullshit man, you need to read and comprehend.
And you have no clue man you make the car sound like it easy to work on, do you even own a fucking fairlady??? I have better things to do like say work have a life besides working on a car, what do you do in your spare time oh wait your another fucking greasy punk, got it.
You want to call me a pussy here's my # (403)827-6176
you sir are a -----, im not sorry but you are a total -----! chris knows his $%#@ about cars and has done all the work on his own cars and some of his friends cars when they needed a hand, he is not a tool you are the tool sir. if you call him a greasy punk again we are gonna have a problem buddy....... it's not his fault you made some mistakes, he just told it how it is, and thats the way it is! |
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| ehos |
300Z's are like all the 90's great super cars. You have to take the good with the bad (of course).
The engine bay is tight, but you didn't have any engine problems. It seems as though you had normal maint. issues.
They are really good cars, but they really need to be kept up other wise they can turn into a real horror story. They are quite heavy and suspension/tranny and other load bearing parts will wear out faster.
I had a 300Z Shiro (Anniv Edition). Really nice car when it was running well, but once things started to go on her it turned ugly VERY quickly.
Edit: It seems as though the 'worst' is over. You've done all the work it probably needs for a while, don't hate the car. Try to get back into enjoying it (if that's possible).
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| mx73someday |
| Guys, please remove your swearing from the posts or I'm going to delete them. I don't want to delete entire posts. |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by youngbex
you sir are a -----, im not sorry but you are a total -----! chris knows his $%#@ about cars and has done all the work on his own cars and some of his friends cars when they needed a hand, he is not a tool you are the tool sir. if you call him a greasy punk again we are gonna have a problem buddy....... it's not his fault you made some mistakes, he just told it how it is, and thats the way it is!
And you contribute nothing to this thread... Your friend is an asshole, see my # take me up on it, if not quit being an internet whore that you present yourself as. |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
No, what you are doing with this thread is fabricating a lie.
Let me quote from your first post AGAIN:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the build quality of a Z32. Don't blame the problems YOU experienced with THE particular car that you imported on the whole model run.
Your "claim" is completely unsubstantiated.
I have a clue, I own one, and I do most of my own work on it with no mechanics background.
To make this fair, I will change the thread to fairlady Z, that way we should have no more issues.
take care
Lane |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by TyPhOOnSliPPerY
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lane WC
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And you have no clue man you make the car sound like it easy to work on, do you even own a fucking fairlady??? I have better things to do like say work have a life besides working on a car, [QUOTE]
Then why did you buy a Fairlazy 300zx if you knew it was impossible to work on and also if you didnt like to work on cars in the first place ... you should have bought a brand new 350z with warranty so you could drive it to the dealership and when it breaks down they will give you a temp 350z to drive around while yours gets worked on so your life is not disturbed in any way ....
Why would I devote my time to fixing a car, when I have no time, or professional experience working on a Z32, I dont posses the tools, so really dont know what your getting at. So since I dont work on cars I shouldn't purchase used ones? I have purchased used cars and never had the problems that I have experienced with this car.
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| ehos |
| Then you got lucky before.. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Lane WC
To make this fair, I will change the thread to fairlady Z, that way we should have no more issues.
:blink: Wow...
Time for an automotive history lesson...
The moniker "Fairlady Z" represents the Z32 generation of 300ZX, and EVERY generation of Z car prior (240Z, 260Z, 280Z, 280ZX, Z31) and every one since then (350Z).
ALL the Z's are technically "Fairlady Z's".
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| thenaes |
| so is there any more updates upon the condish of this car? |
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| CanadianSkyline |
quote:
Originally posted by thenaes
so is there any more updates upon the condish of this car?
That guys retarded, hopefully it blew up and he's even more in the hole......:lol: |
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by CanadianSkyline
That guys retarded, hopefully it blew up and he's even more in the hole......:lol:
That's hilarious man, next time before you decide to call anybody retarded watch what you type. Looks like you dropped out of school before you could complete the basic grammar skills, must have been a tough run for you. |
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| CanadianSkyline |
quote:
Originally posted by Lane WC
That's hilarious man, next time before you decide to call anybody retarded watch what you type. Looks like you dropped out of school before you could complete the basic grammar skills, must have been a tough run for you.
That would be funny, except for the fact that I'm in second year biochemistry and I have quite good punctuation in fact (I tend to skip the apostrophes on forums because they are unnecessary in most cases).
In your case however, being completely retarded is not something you can turn on or off.
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| Lane WC |
quote:
Originally posted by CanadianSkyline
That would be funny, except for the fact that I'm in second year biochemistry and I have quite good punctuation in fact (I tend to skip the apostrophes on forums because they are unnecessary in most cases).
In your case however, being completely retarded is not something you can turn on or off.
:asshole:
What's even funnier is that you feel the need to defend your level of intelligence by posting your education to explain your lack of punctuation even if it"'"s an apostrophe.
WAY TO BE DOUCHE BAG |
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| mx73someday |
| Take it to PM guys, I'm closing this thread. |
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