| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| Blaine.. was that WITH or W/O headers though? Dialing up the p.s.i on a low h.p car and doing the exhaust won't do that much if the restriction wasn't that bad on it to begin with.. RX's have very bad restriction and there's a big gain when you do the exhaust there but meh I'll believe 14.4 when I see it Chris |
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| WookeysRX7 |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 19 2003, 09:57 AM
Blaine.. was that WITH or W/O headers though? Dialing up the p.s.i on a low h.p car and doing the exhaust won't do that much if the restriction wasn't that bad on it to begin with.. RX's have very bad restriction and there's a big gain when you do the exhaust there but meh I'll believe 14.4 when I see it Chris
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| v8slayer |
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Originally posted by LS1-V8@Mar 19 2003, 08:42 AM
V8 Slayer what V8s have you slayed??? ;)
Just curious :unsure:
Why bother with the 8's I have slayed Vipers , Turbo Porches , NOS big blocks , Super charged Stangs , Ego trips NOS Fire Bird and Cuda ..................................
I got my name legitimatly.
Just to let you know that was with an internally stock 122 cid engine and a full wait car on steet tires.
I'm quite sure if you spent enough money on your V8 or made it big enough you could beat a 4 banger if you tried.
The problem is its a victory if a 4 Banger beats a V8 , but if a V8 beats a 4 banger its no news and a no bragging rights.
Incase your going to ask I don't street race anymore. :) |
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| WookeysRX7 |
| Nice, man nice! :bigthumbup: :bow: |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 19 2003, 07:28 AM
I never was talkin about being fast but redbaron dude... you're not fast.. 14 sec. is not so fast and 14.9 is definately not fast so you're SLOWWWWWWW
14.3 for a "stock" car is fast.... you run nearly a second slower than me :) OH well.... one day you too will be able to give other competition... not just stock hondas :) That was on the old car and it didn't have full 3inch exhaust. :)
I'm really hoping that I can pull a run like the last owner of my 86 did. I now have the 84, and that should be a lil' lighter by like 100lbs than the 86, plus I have the full 3inch exhaust... oh and Matt, if you canfind a header for my TURBO 300zx that's cool :) And my car ran like 4 maybe 5psi stock according to Nissan, but I'm not 100% sure how mine is going to be different, it's an American car afterall :) I'm hoping for some good pulls no lame ass 15s or even high 14s.... but I'll guess we'll see what I ----> I can do! The car is capable of going fast, but can I drive it like that?
Like I keep saying, if I'm at the track, I'll race anything and everyone, doesn't matter if it's mau and the supra or you and the porsche or joe blow and a kcar :) |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| I am Joe Blow with a "K" car :P |
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| redbaron303 |
Then we shall race ( I will have to blow up the kcar if it somehow won.... )
I just checked out that link abut that guys Z... it's an 84 AE car, that thing weighs at least a couple of hundred pounds more than mine, with all the added extras :)
Here Check this out Z31 Mods & Approx PWR |
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| redbaron303 |
MODIFICATION ~HP GAIN COST (PARTS + LABOUR)
Stock: 1986 300ZX Turbo 170HP @ 4psi ---> my current is an 84
Stage I: HKS Exhaust with no Cats 24HP @ 15psi $300 + $50
Stage II: K&N Filtercharger with Resonator Modifications 14HP @ 15psi $70
Stage III: Modified HKS Manual Valve Controller 35HP @ 15psi $150 + $150
TOTAL REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER 243 HP $720
His "Gtech stats"
TEST STOCK 86ZXT MY CAR
0-60 MPH (SEC) 7.4 SEC AVG: 5.3
1/4 MILE (SEC @ MPH) 15.4 @ 96 AVG: 14.1 @ 102
TOP SPEED (MPH) 137 EST: 156 |
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| v8slayer |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 19 2003, 04:21 PM
MODIFICATION ~HP GAIN COST (PARTS + LABOUR)
Stock: 1986 300ZX Turbo 170HP @ 4psi ---> my current is an 84
Stage I: HKS Exhaust with no Cats 24HP @ 15psi $300 + $50
Stage II: K&N Filtercharger with Resonator Modifications 14HP @ 15psi $70
Stage III: Modified HKS Manual Valve Controller 35HP @ 15psi $150 + $150
TOTAL REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER 243 HP $720
His "Gtech stats"
TEST STOCK 86ZXT MY CAR
0-60 MPH (SEC) 7.4 SEC AVG: 5.3
1/4 MILE (SEC @ MPH) 15.4 @ 96 AVG: 14.1 @ 102
TOP SPEED (MPH) 137 EST: 156
Stage IV : 1 Super cheese donair and endless gas. 100 HP.
Stage V : 4 Rice stickers 40 HP.
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| WookeysRX7 |
| where the hell did you get 243 REAR WHEEL horse power?! I am gonna have to raise the :bs: :bs: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| and I'm saluting that fine flag |
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| redbaron303 |
Those are just the stats that some other guy go on his car :) He doesn't have a dyno sheet... so whatever. I'm dynoing my car this summer just for the fun of it, so we'll see what that shit does then :) I'm going to have to get my friend w/ the stock 84 Turbo Z to dyno his too, so I can compare actual #'s, from stock to my mods and in comparision to that guy who runs z31.com . B) The turbo II rx7's are about 150rwhp (I can't remember, Terry or Trevor do you?) and they're about 180ish stock (so I've heard, but never checked cause I don't have one :)) So I don't know, I should have at least 150rwhp stock and probably close to 200rwhp w/ my mods, that's my guess :) Mark's miata dynod at like 210ish rwhp when we were at stews last year...
We'll have to do a dyno day this summer when on a cruise just like last year... it could be fun :) I also want to see what the porsche dynos at and a couple of the other cars that I've seen around. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| LOL the porsche.... why even bother... I'll dyno it so I can brag about the 153 h.p it has at the rear wheels? :thumbsdown: :gay: |
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| redbaron303 |
| Still more power than a Honda should make :P |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by v8slayer@Mar 19 2003, 12:26 PM
The problem is its a victory if a 4 Banger beats a V8 , but if a V8 beats a 4 banger its no news and a no bragging rights.
That's always the case between the "favorite" and the "underdog", whether its sports, whether its cars... whatever.
Nobody's gonna care if Green Bay beat Cinncinati either. :o |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 19 2003, 02:53 PM
14.3 for a "stock" car is fast....
What the heck are you talking about Chris?? Z31s don't run 14.3 STOCK.
If you're claiming yours can, I raise the:
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If you're talking about your car, are you being completely "honest" by claiming it is/was 100% stock? Just curious. |
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| redbaron303 |
Yes it's 100% "stock" ------> notice quotation marks.... haha, It's not that stock but I mean there is only boost controller, exhaust, intake and bov done to the car and bov adds no power..... In my eyes it's pretty much stock because I don't have tons done to moddify it, I'm using all stock parts except the intake and exhaust.
I'm not totally sure what this new one will run. I know for a fact the other car ran 14.3 because I was there when he did that pull... I was like :o and Shaun's white 86 ran quick like that too, but he claims to have gone faster. The possibilities are there, but when it comes time to make it happen, can I or will it? BTW Jason, I'm having a hard time trying to find aftermarket parts for my car, what companies do you suggest I look at for aftermarket Z parts? |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 19 2003, 07:50 AM
Power was supplied by a Turbocharged 3.0-liter (SOHC) 60-degree V6. This generated 200 HP @ 5200 rpm and 227 lb ft. of torque @ 3600 rpm. The gear box is a Borg-Warner 5-speed overdrive manual (4-speed automatic optional) and the final drive ratio is 3.545 This power plant was able to produce 0-60 mph in the low 7 second range and 1/4 mile times and speeds at 15.4 sec. @ 88 mph.
'nuff said.. that's from http://www.angelfire.com/az/tomicaz/ a very knowledgable "Z" guy... I could give the Z a run and maybe you'd taste my exhaust on a good day :P
this is your engine right here buuuddddddd-eee :blink: look at the stats.. read em and weap.. royal flush :P |
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| redbaron303 |
If you say that's my engine... how do you know I'm not running something different. You don't. Oh and mods on a turbo car do perform different than mods on a non turbo car... that 247rwhp thing, he said he got it from gteching which doesn't dyno, but I hear gives approx. #'s and I"m sure that would be to the fly anyhow... :) The best I hope for on the dyno is 200rwhp and to be able to have this car pull a 14.3 :) Theres no argueing that that time was run when I saw it in person even before I bought the last car, like way before I bought the car, I wish I had the time slip so I could shut your ass up matt! If I can pull a close run this year in the beater then maybe you can leave this be... I dont know how the new car will perform in comparison to the old one even w/ more mods because it hasn't been driven in such a long time that everything probably doesn't work right in it!
Oh and read what somebody else (pearly?) posted about simply adding exhaust and his times at the track, dropped em by nearly a whole second! |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by PearlyWhiteTSI@Mar 19 2003, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 19 2003, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by WookeysRX7@Mar 19 2003, 07:53 AM
Those are good facts matt but Chris also has 3" straight pipe exhaust :wacko: , boost controller which he is supposebly running 10psi, and a K&N air filter...... so that'll boost him a lil bit.... :rolleyes:
3" straight pipe with no cats... wow a whopping 6 h.p because there aren't headers.... 10 p.s.i instead of 8.. when the turbo spools up another whopping 10 h.p if that... and K&N maybe 3 h.p.... this is not to the wheels.. of all this maybe 15 is getting to the rear wheels which would make for maybe a 7 flat 0-60 and a 15.2 1/4 mile time :mellow:
Before my exhaust got done, my personal best @ Bud Park was 15.2 @ 88 MPH. Only mod was a K&N.
After I got my 3" turbo back exhaust my personal best was 14.4 @ 93 MPH.
Never underestimate the power gain of an exhaust system on a turbo car. :bigthumbup:
found that quote
15.2 @ 88
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 20 2003, 09:20 AM
Oh and read what somebody else (pearly?) posted about simply adding exhaust and his times at the track, dropped em by nearly a whole second!
That was on a an AWD DSM. :bigthumbup: Some of the e.t. could have been improvement in driver skill, MPH usually doesn't lie though.
Not sure how your pistonLESS ride will react. heh heh heh :D |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| It won't react as much as a piston-driven ride, it's allllll about restriction and the "Z" dosn't have much.. I know that's your engine cause that era turbos came with a 3.0L Turbo with all the stats I gave you... in the 2 yrs. difference between your cars they DID NOT mod. it so :P |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Mar 20 2003, 11:24 AM
It won't react as much as a piston-driven ride, it's allllll about restriction and the "Z" dosn't have much.. I know that's your engine cause that era turbos came with a 3.0L Turbo with all the stats I gave you... in the 2 yrs. difference between your cars they DID NOT mod. it so :P
That's what you think Matt.... the other car wasn't that stock, it had some stuff done to it, and I'm not 100% sure all of the mods..... little things here and there from my specialist z mechanic :)
It's gonna be fun either way.... and until you beat me or until I beat you stats from 1984 again on the heavier Anniversary model which is heavier, mean nothing as the car is not in the factory state. :) It has potential to be like the other one and I really hope that my skills and it's power can push up to the max again if not, then I'll have to improve my skills because I know what the car can do, whether you believe me or not.... :) |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| the day you pull a 14.3 at the track with that car as is.. is the day I believe what your car can do... comparing a '74 porsche to a '84 turbo Z is like comparing apples to oranges... |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Mar 20 2003, 06:40 AM
Shaun's white 86 ran quick like that too, but he claims to have gone faster.
Shaun who? Shaun from the Z club, who has Tim's old car "the missle"? :D
IF that's the car you're talking about, no way jose.
There were two Z31s from the EZCC at the SCCC in Sept. (Shaun's and Daniel's) and neither broke into the 14s that day. (they were ~ low 15s) Even Tim took a turn in the driver seat (of his old car) and couldn't do any better.
(And I don't know if you were at the SCCC or not Baron, but everyone had TONNES of runs that day... lots of chance to practice. No excuses.) |
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| redbaron303 |
I'm just hoping to break 15's this year in the car.... :) I've never driven at the track and I'm not 100% sure what I should expect. I'm not even sure when I'll be able to take the car out there, I have a small pwr steering leak to fix :)
Basically, what the car should be able to do from some other ppl I've talked to, the run I witnessed, blah blah blah... doesn't matter, I"M OUT THERE FOR FUN, times aren't a concern until I break 10's and start racing for cash in the big leagues and that's not at the top of my list right now... |
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| Inzane |
I was just pointing out 2 things to you Baron:
1) I called you on your "stock" claim the other night and I was right...
Intake, exhaust, BOV, and boost controller does NOT = stock!
Even with just intake or exhaust, on any turbo-charged car you typically can see significant gains from either.
And whether a guy uses boost jets or a boost controller or whatever, as soon as you're running higher than factory level boost, that means you're not technically stock anymore.
2) The white Z31 in question is not "fast", despite what the current owner or the previous owner may have told you. :P That's doesn't mean it can't become fast someday, with more work and more practice. If it IS capable of achieving low-14s this year at the track then I guess I'll just have to eat my words.
As for you going to the track this year to see how you do, right on... go for it! Just do what Principal Skinner always says "set yourself a new record, then try to break that record!". :D |
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| redbaron303 |
| Ya, thanks Jason.... I'll be out there racing to set times for myself, not to prove anything to anyone. I'll always race anything at the track (except true drag cars, ie: funny cars) I don't care if it's faster than me or not, it's all FOR FUN :D and there is a reason why I use quote marks around the word stock... "stock." I know it's NOT stock, but it's also not heavily modded either and runs more stock components, altered yes, but still stock equipment aside bov and boost controller which just improve performance and wear and tear on stock equipment.... :D So Jason, when you're up to it... I'll take you on to.... so now I've got you and matt to race although you'll be a challenge Jason :) |
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| import_3000 |
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Originally posted by THEONE@Mar 15 2003, 10:20 AM
Modified is still in my opinon one of the best mags out there more info and less bullshit ricer crap!
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| vr6goLf |
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Originally posted by THEONE@Mar 15 2003, 07:00 AM
Pick up a copy at any mag store even 7-11!
i seen that supra at bud park...it was doing 11's i believe? somebody correct me if i'm wrong....one sick ride! |
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| redbaron303 |
| He ran an 11.18 :) Very quick, and very cool.... I love the simple look of that car :) |
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