| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| umm I dunno if I'm de-sensitized or what... but what about that was disturbing? I mean I might have not understood the video but were they bombing single targets like men and vehicles? :mellow: |
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| mrprecidia |
| man thats brutal they seem like they are just having fun playing a video game. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
When you think about it, those images are real people running for their lives, those are real people blowing apart, and those are real people crawling in fear.
I can't figure out what they are saying after an explosion... "30 boom?"
Some pics and specs of the vehicle in question, the AC-130 H/U Gunship:
Mission
The AC-130 gunship's primary missions are close air support, air interdiction and force protection. Missions in close air support are troops in contact, convoy escort and urban operations. Air interdiction missions are conducted against preplanned targets or targets of opportunity. Force protection missions include air base defense and facilities defense.
Features
These heavily armed aircraft incorporate side-firing weapons integrated with sophisticated sensor, navigation and fire control systems to provide surgical firepower or area saturation during extended loiter periods, at night and in adverse weather. The sensor suite consists of a television sensor, infrared sensor and radar. These sensors allow the gunship to visually or electronically identify friendly ground forces and targets any place, any time. The AC-130U employs synthetic apertures strike radar for long-range target detection and identification. The gunship's navigational devices include the inertial navigation systems and global positioning system. The AC-130U employs the latest technologies and can attack two targets simultaneously.
History
The AC-130H's call sign is "Spectre." The AC-130U's call sign is "Spooky," and traces its history to the first operational gunship, the AC-47. The U-model is the third generation of C-130 gunships.
The AC-130 gunship has a combat history dating to Vietnam. Gunships destroyed more than 10,000 trucks and were credited with many life-saving close air support missions. During Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada in 1983, AC-130s suppressed enemy air defense systems and attacked ground forces enabling the successful assault of the Point Salines Airfield via airdrop and air land of friendly forces. The AC-130 aircrew earned the Lt. Gen. William H. Tunner Award for the mission.
AC-130s also had a primary role during Operation Just Cause in Panama in 1989 when they destroyed Panamanian Defense Force Headquarters and numerous command and control facilities. Aircrews earned the Mackay Trophy for the most meritorious flight of the year and the Tunner Award for their efforts.
During Operation Desert Storm, AC-130s provided close air support and force protection (air base defense) for ground forces. Gunships were also used during operations Continue Hope and United Shield in Somalia, providing close air support for United Nations ground forces. Gunships also played a pivotal role in supporting the NATO mission in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The AC-130H provided air interdiction against key targets in the Sarajevo area.
In 1997, gunships were diverted from Italy to provide combat air support for U.S. and allied ground troops during the evacuation of American noncombatants in Albania. Gunships also were part of the buildup of U.S. forces in 1998 to convince Iraq to comply with U.N. weapons inspections. More recently, both aircraft have been employed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Gunships provided armed reconnaissance, interdiction and direct support of ground troops engaged with enemy forces.
General Characteristics
Primary Function: Close air support, air interdiction and force protection
Builder: AC-130H, Lockheed; AC-130U, Boeing Corp
Power Plant: Four Allison T56-A-15 turboprop engines
Thrust: 4,910 shaft horsepower each engine
Length: 97 feet, 9 inches (29.8 meters)
Height: 38 feet, 6 inches (11.7 meters)
Wingspan: 132 feet, 7 inches (40.4 meters)
Speed: 300 mph (Mach .4) (at sea level)
Range: Approximately 1,300 nautical miles; unlimited with air refueling.
Ceiling: 25,000 feet (7,576 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms)
Armament: AC-130H/U: 40mm cannon and 105mm cannon; AC-130U: 25mm gun, 40mm cannon and 105mm cannon
Crew: Five officers (pilot, co-pilot, navigator, fire control officer, electronic warfare officer) and eight enlisted (flight engineer, TV operator, infrared detection set operator, loadmaster, four aerial gunners)
Deployment Date: AC-130H, 1972; AC-130U, 1995
Unit Cost: AC-130H, $132.4 million; AC-130U, $190 million (fiscal 2001 constant dollars)
Inventory: Active duty: AC-130H, 8; AC-130U, 13; Reserve, 0; ANG, 0 |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| bah I've got two of those in my garage :P I guess it was a lil disturbing but most of those guys actually bombing were just kids... I'm a kid too but I mean that's what happens when war is so "impersonal" now stick a bayonet in their hand and tell them to run up to an afghanistani man in a mosk and impale him in front of his extended family.. a lof of those kids couldn't.... eventually it's going to be buttons and robots I betcha :( |
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| import_3000 |
| they arent allowed to shoot mosques, they only shot the people outside it |
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| inglewood |
| wow, and all this time i wanted to join the air force and fly f-18s for the canadian military...forget that, i could never drop a bomb on ANYONE...i feel guilty watching that movie. |
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| ChromeDragon |
Extremely eery that they do not seem to show any remorse for killing these people. I wonder how this video came about? It's not like this sort of thing is public record or anything.
Chromey |
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| 83b18b1slow |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon@Mar 17 2003, 04:45 PM
Extremely eery that they do not seem to show any remorse for killing these people.
Chromey
I guess they have to disconnect themselves to do there "duty".
So those guys on the ground... they were bad guys or something?
Or was it a wedding reception? |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| talk about impersonal war and no regard for human life... and we all wondered where trillions of their money went into their military.... each one of those bombs is a good 10G a pop... |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon@Mar 17 2003, 04:45 PM
Extremely eery that they do not seem to show any remorse for killing these people. I wonder how this video came about? It's not like this sort of thing is public record or anything.
Chromey
This video was recently unclassified and mande pblic during the fiasco of the US bombing Canadian soldiers during a training mission.
It was an attempt to show the general public just how the decision to drop a bomb is made.
I beleive the video is sent live to a table of beurocrats (sp??) or something like that and it is they who have made the decision to drop the bomb, not the pilot. |
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