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plugged in
I've been looking at some bmw 328's over the past couple of weeks, since I've crashed my ride, and I was just wondering if you'd be able to help me answer a few questions:


What are all the differences between the bmw 328, 328i, 328ic, 328is, 328ia, and 328ci?

All i've found out so far is that the ic means convertible, and the is is sport.

Is the is the only model that comes in a 2dr coupe?


the years of the bmw i'm referring to are: 92-98


and whats the going rate on a 4dr sedan version vs a 2dr coupe (preferrably not the sport version if they come w/o it because those seem more expensive)

2ndgenlude
92-98 in good condition should be around 14000 im guessing

plugged in
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
92-98 in good condition should be around 14000 im guessing



kms?
coupe?
:dunno:

2ndgenlude
my friend had a 4 door 325i he was trying to sell for 15000 low km's 5spd. if that gives you a idea. it was in good shape. he still has it i think.

plugged in
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
my friend had a 4 door 325i he was trying to sell for 15000 low km's 5spd. if that gives you a idea. it was in good shape. he still has it i think.


:blink:


damn, there are alot of them in the trader that are like 11-13

2ndgenlude
ya. i thought he was overcharging too haha, you could probably get into a nice one for around 11-12.
maybe more for the higher end models.

plugged in
I'm looking for a clean one, with very little mods.


I don't really want to do much to it myself. A few performance mods, and some sound mods. other than that. preserve the beauty :)

newtuner
328 here's how it breaks down. The 3 is the series, as you know there are different ones. 3 series is the sporty line, 5 series is a sporty car but with a bit more luxry and it's not as entery as the 3. the 6 and 7 series are highend you could pay over 100 grand for a new 7 series. the 28 stands for the engin size 2.8L inline 6. This is a pretty good rule of thumb but I think there are some old ones and a couple of new ones that this does not work. the letters after the three numbers tells what it is. Like you said ic is for the convertable, ci is coupe (2 door), xi is all wheel drive and ti is for touring ( these are normaly the hatch backs). If it just says i then chances are it's a 4 door.As for is that is for sport but was dropped a few years ago I think they just use ci now. The years your talking about I pretty sure makes them the E36. You should try carpoint as he seems to find all the older bimmers. I would try and find one that has most of the service recods and see if they have done any work. The only down side to having a older bimmer is the maintanence, this is also the main reasons the cars were sold to begin with. Parts and labour are on the higher end of the scale. The last shop rate I heard for BMW was something like 140.00 an hour. You may find some parts in canada but some will have to be ordered from germany. I myself am looking for one thats a little older the E30 (early 90's). This will be a project car so I know I will have to hunt for parts, but thats part of the fun. Hope this helps a little.

plugged in
thanks, that actually helped alot :thumbup:


so in your oppinion: what would cost more on average in maintenance: nissan 300zx or a 328(ci)?

a close friend of my dads has a '94 740, and repairs are insanely expensive for him but I was told that the 740 has alot of parts that are "bimmer 740 only" kind of parts

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by plugged in
thanks, that actually helped alot :thumbup:


so in your oppinion: what would cost more on average in maintenance: nissan 300zx or a 328(ci)?

a close friend of my dads has a '94 740, and repairs are insanely expensive for him but I was told that the 740 has alot of parts that are "bimmer 740 only" kind of parts



the 328 should cost more for maintenance as the luxury brands tend to cost alot more for servicing. on top of that theres always the parts price mark up and such which makes it cost alot more, and some of the parts need to be ordered in germany. the average oil change probably costs $50 at most dealerships, its roughly $120 for my 325Xi for an oil change. brakes on a typical car probably costs about $250 or so to do while it cost $400 on mine

the 300zx does cost alot to maintain, but servicing shouldnt be that much considering the shop rates for a nissan dealership isnt as high as a BMW dealership. parts for this car is pretty rare, but shouldnt be that much harder to get then the 328 parts.


the 7 series has parts that the typical BMW(mainly the 3 and maybe the 5) wont have for years to come. that is the main reason why their so costly to maintain. if the 3, 5 and 7 used alot of the same parts, then chances are itll cost a bit less to maintain, but BMW isnt known for that kind of stuff.

newtuner
From talking to may people including a very close friend of mine Bimmers are great cars to drive and own. I always hear that once you drive a bimmer you won't want to drive anything else. The only thing you have to know is there is a higher cost to maintain these cars. I know on some newer cars the computer tracks how many km or hours there are on certain parts and will tell the dealer what parts "need" to be changed. Alot of the time they are still good but the predicted life span is past and BMW wants you to change it. This sounds like a load of crap, but if you think about it. If you want your car to always run strong you have to change out parts not wait until the break. This is how BMW keeps thier level of standards so high. Like I said before as long as you know that it will be more to maintain then you won't be so shocked once you get the invoice from the dealership.

plugged in
I don't have a problem with like oil changes because I do them myself, I don't get those done at dealerships...

And from what I hear with BMW's you pay more because of the reliability, well if I'm going to fix it less often but pay more each time, I think it balances out?

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by plugged in
What are all the differences between the bmw 328, 328i, 328ic, 328is, 328ia, and 328ci?


The 'c' designates a coupe (2 door). So a 328i would be a sedan, and the 328ci would be the coupe version of the same car.

I'm not sure about the rest.

motorwerks
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
The 'c' designates a coupe (2 door). So a 328i would be a sedan, and the 328ci would be the coupe version of the same car.

I'm not sure about the rest.



Nope. 328is is the coupe of the same car.

And pm me if you want a good 328is, mines totally stock.

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by motorwerks
Nope. 328is is the coupe of the same car.



Really? I guess you'd know more than me since you own one. What does the 'c' mean then? I don't believe it means convertible because I'm pretty sure I've SEEN bmw coupes around with the C in the model designation.

Is it a trim package then?

plugged in
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Really? I guess you'd know more than me since you own one. What does the 'c' mean then? I don't believe it means convertible because I'm pretty sure I've SEEN bmw coupes around with the C in the model designation.

Is it a trim package then?



ci is coupe

ic is convertable

is is sport (coupe)

newtuner
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Really? I guess you'd know more than me since you own one. What does the 'c' mean then? I don't believe it means convertible because I'm pretty sure I've SEEN bmw coupes around with the C in the model designation.

Is it a trim package then?



If you read my first post you will see what it means.

motorwerks
quote:
Originally posted by plugged in
ci is coupe

ic is convertable

is is sport (coupe)



Thanks for clearing this up. Dang BMW and their confusing badges.

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by newtuner
If you read my first post you will see what it means.


Sorry, you're right.

Honestly I overlooked your first post because it was too lengthy and wordy. Had you presented your points in bullet form, or at least utilized paragraphs to separate your thoughts I would've been more likely to have stopped and read your post when I first skimmed over the thread.

newtuner
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Sorry, you're right.

Honestly I overlooked your first post because it was too lengthy and wordy. Had you presented your points in bullet form, or at least utilized paragraphs to separate your thoughts I would've been more likely to have stopped and read your post when I first skimmed over the thread.




Whoops my bad I forgot I was in the essay forum. My bad wont happen again.

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by plugged in
I don't have a problem with like oil changes because I do them myself, I don't get those done at dealerships...

And from what I hear with BMW's you pay more because of the reliability, well if I'm going to fix it less often but pay more each time, I think it balances out?



good luck doing an oil change... unless somebody told you how to do one on these cars, its almost impossible to figure it out without a manual.

with BMW, you pay alot more for the service and the parts, but essentially all parts will break down depending on how you treat your car. so a balljoint might not last as long as you would think

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by newtuner
Whoops my bad I forgot I was in the essay forum. My bad wont happen again.


That's just it... you wrote an essay. :lol:

chico_kj_23
6 cylinders:
1992-1995 were the 325(2.5L)
1996-1998 were the 328(2.8L)
1998 there was an 323(2.5L)

4 cylinders:
1992-1995 were the 318(1.8L)
1996-1998 were the 318(1.9L)

is=coupe
i=sedan
ic=convertable
M=sports/performance

i believe the "ci" is used only on the newer bmw's such as the E46 and E90. i think the "ci" replaced the "is" as the symbol for the 2dr.

also if your looking at doing your own oil changes and basic maintanence, then you are going to have to get a code reader and code reset tool. their is a light that illuminates when its time to get an oil change, and the only way to turn it off is to have the tool.

Inzane
quote:
Originally posted by chico_kj_23
i believe the "ci" is used only on the newer bmw's such as the E46 and E90. i think the "ci" replaced the "is" as the symbol for the 2dr.


Thats probably why I was confused earlier. I was thinking E46's when I wrote what I wrote.

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by chico_kj_23
also if your looking at doing your own oil changes and basic maintanence, then you are going to have to get a code reader and code reset tool. their is a light that illuminates when its time to get an oil change, and the only way to turn it off is to have the tool.


for things like resetting the oil trip, you dont need a tool to do that. not sure if it applys to any other maintenance reminders, but theres definetely one for the oil trip. on top of that, the reset tool is specifically made for BMW, so good luck getting one.

if you plan on doing an oil change, have fun trying to find the filter. it was funny when i noticed where mine was on my E46. kinda expected it to be there, but didnt really notice until i looked hard enough

chico_kj_23
quote:
Originally posted by newaccorddriver
for things like resetting the oil trip, you dont need a tool to do that. not sure if it applys to any other maintenance reminders, but theres definetely one for the oil trip. on top of that, the reset tool is specifically made for BMW, so good luck getting one.

if you plan on doing an oil change, have fun trying to find the filter. it was funny when i noticed where mine was on my E46. kinda expected it to be there, but didnt really notice until i looked hard enough



oh you mean one of these?Tuner Motorsports

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by chico_kj_23
oh you mean one of these?Tuner Motorsports


heh, my bad. thought those kinda tools were dealership exclusive:rolleyes:

chico_kj_23
quote:
Originally posted by newaccorddriver
heh, my bad. thought those kinda tools were dealership exclusive:rolleyes:

iam not the type to make stupid comments unless i have done my homework. But w/e, its all good and now you know!




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